Hello All, My query is in relation to 19th century marriage consent forms. A Betsy LUCKETT married a Robert Simon SCOTT on 18 December, 1853 (see below). Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 Surname: SCOTT Given Names: Robert Simon Event: M Spouse Surname/Father: TUCKET Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Betsy Age: Sex: M Birth Place: Death Place: Year: 1853 Reg Number: 25711 Denomination: Church of England Parish: KILMORE Fiche: 375 I have a copy of this early church record and note that the marriage is by licence and that the consent is given by a Daniel BOYD. Now my question is, are 19th Victorian consent forms held by any Victorian government authority and if so, have they been indexed or transcribed? Elizabeth SCOTT went on to become the first woman to be hanged in Victoria and I’ve been researching her case for many years. Daniel BOYD does not appear to have any genealogical connection to Elizabeth SCOTT and I’m wondering how it came to be that he could give consent to the marriage. I understand that in Victoria in 1853 that persons who could give consent were a father, or if the father was dead, a guardian or if no guardian, a mother if living and unmarried. If no mother, a guardian or guardian could be appointed by the Supreme Court. Now if Daniel BOYD was appointed as Elizabeth’s guardian by the Supreme Court, have you any idea where I could find record of same? Cheers Anne Hanson

Some of these names have definitely been found in the north-east. Some are names familar to us as north-east names, but not of course, necessarily the same people as those given below. These people came on a ship to Melbourne which is NOT listed in the PRO. This is only part of the ships list, more will be sent through next week. In total there are 225 names. If any are familar or known to you, and you think yours may have come via USA, please get in touch by Sunday, we are happy to share what we know. Many people travelled to Australia via America, from Germany England Ireland etc, so if you haven't found your shipping, perhaps this may be it. Please note the spelling stays as per list from ship, we have not made adjustments even to those we know. To save typing we are listing only the surnames, so please get in touch with either of us, if you think there is a chance, by Saturday. If we get any replies we will answer these, then post the next lot. Some names will be duplicated during the posts, simply because they came on board at different times. regards Chris and Denise Bradley - Hilton - Neiel - Backford - Marston - Spaulding - Smily - Leighton - Morse - McCarty - Luce -. Allen - Allen - Dinsmore - Laughley - Russell - Tucker - Farnsworth - Robbins - Loomis - Brown - Kendall- Knox -Stebbins -Bodfish - Cushman - Wright - Richards -Johnson - Hogan - Paiks - Lowell - Davis - Dillingham - Kimball -. Plumer - Hill -Spaulding - Ducker -. Western - Swift - Richardson - Ranson - Fernald - Paddleford -. Ferguson - Ferber -- Pratt -McLaughlin - Gilmore - Bradford -Williamson - Williams - Edwards -Henry Carige and family - Demun - Ballen - Pullen - Beach - Fergo -. Webb - Snell - Reas

Thanks a lot I live in Qld so will contact them Kathryn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Jones rates notices and deaths Chiltern > Kathryn, > You can visit the Athenaeum in Chiltern or perhaps write to them. > Rex Fuge is one name to ask for. Very helpful people. > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVNE/museums.html#chiltern > visit the home page of this list and the following tells all - Denise > Chiltern > > Name: Chiltern Athenaeum > Location: 57 Conness Street, Chiltern, Vic. Wheelchair access. > Email Address: None > Postal Address: c/- RMB 1360, Chiltern Vic 3683 > Phone: Rex Fuge, (03) 5726 1467 > Opening hours: 10am-4pm Sat, Sun, Public Holidays and by appointment > Research: Available, but cost and range unknown. > Description: Chiltern and District Museum is an historic building built in > 1866 which includes district records; shire, cemetery, town and district and > library of books dating to 17th Century. Reference library, guided tours of > museum and town, brochure, student tours, family history research, library > of books including Chiltern authors. Also Chiltern Federal Standard > newspaper. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul & Kathryn Lucas" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 11:42 AM > Subject: [AVNE] Jones rates notices and deaths Chiltern > > > >I am tyring to find out if these Jones are mine > > 1. I believe Ethel May Jones was buried in the Chinese Portion of the > > Chiltern cemetery > > > > Birth, Ethel May Jones, Father Unknown, mother Mary Ann Jones,birth place > > Chiltern, year 1894 Registration No. 19313R. Death father Unknown, age 1 > > death place Chiltern, year 1896 Registration No.1159 > > and > > > > 2. Mrs A E Jones buried 1899 Church of England. No other details known > > > > My Jones are: > > George Albert Jones who married Christina Marion Buchan 1905 > > Shire of Chiltern rate books (I was given this information years ago) > > 1907 Jones was a tenant at a house in Epsom Rd owned by Enright at > > Chiltern > > 1915 George Jones owned land in Main Street > > > > Can someone tell me if the Shire of Chiltern rates books can be looked up > > for more information ? > > Regards > > Kathryn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Sebire" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 6:45 PM > > Subject: Re: [AVNE] Buckland 1854 > > > > > >> Denise, > >> there are no deaths recorded for Buckland before 1881 in the Pioneers > >> Index so it was probably known by some other name before then. Looked > >> at Porepunkah (2 in 1888) and Ovens as Porepunkah was originally known > >> as Ovens Crossing (1 also in 1888). No deaths for Brookside (half way > >> between Porepunkah and Buckland) or for its earlier name Devils Creek, > >> John Sebire > >> > >> Denise wrote: > >> > >> >Hi everyone > >> > > >> >Wondering if anyone has a death which occurred in Buckland in 1854 and > > would let me know the registration number please. > >> > > >> >I have 5 deaths in 1854 and the registration numbers are all within 20 > > numbers. Without having buying 5 certificates to find their death places, > > I wondered if it would be at all possible to tell by perhaps another death > > you may know about. > >> > > >> >Worth a try, > >> > > >> >regards > >> >Denise > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >> Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.2/65 - Release Date: 07-Aug-05 > >> > >> > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.5/68 - Release Date: 10-Aug-05 > >

Hello Ann, Thank you very much for looking for me ...... it is much appreciated. Kindest Regards ...... Corinne in (a very cold) Melbourne. > Corinne, > > Sorry but no Warrens as mentioned below although there was a Samuel Warren. > > No Madderns but there was a Timothy Madden. > > No Hector Macdonald. > > Cheers > > Anne Hanson > Hello Anne, > > Thank you very much for your offer. Could you please see if there are any > entries for: > > Hector MACDONALD. > William WARREN. > Richard WARREN. > Thomas WARREN. > William MADDERN. > John MADDERN. > > Kindest Regards ...... Corinne in Melbourne.

Corinne, Sorry but no Warrens as mentioned below although there was a Samuel Warren. No Madderns but there was a Timothy Madden. No Hector Macdonald. Cheers Anne Hanson -----Original Message----- From: Corinne Thompson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 6:36 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [AVNE] Lookups offer Melbourne Commercial & Squatters Directory 1854 Hello Anne, Thank you very much for your offer. Could you please see if there are any entries for: Hector MACDONALD. William WARREN. Richard WARREN. Thomas WARREN. William MADDERN. John MADDERN. Kindest Regards ...... Corinne in Melbourne.

Kathryn, You can visit the Athenaeum in Chiltern or perhaps write to them. Rex Fuge is one name to ask for. Very helpful people. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVNE/museums.html#chiltern visit the home page of this list and the following tells all - Denise Chiltern Name: Chiltern Athenaeum Location: 57 Conness Street, Chiltern, Vic. Wheelchair access. Email Address: None Postal Address: c/- RMB 1360, Chiltern Vic 3683 Phone: Rex Fuge, (03) 5726 1467 Opening hours: 10am-4pm Sat, Sun, Public Holidays and by appointment Research: Available, but cost and range unknown. Description: Chiltern and District Museum is an historic building built in 1866 which includes district records; shire, cemetery, town and district and library of books dating to 17th Century. Reference library, guided tours of museum and town, brochure, student tours, family history research, library of books including Chiltern authors. Also Chiltern Federal Standard newspaper. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul & Kathryn Lucas" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 11:42 AM Subject: [AVNE] Jones rates notices and deaths Chiltern >I am tyring to find out if these Jones are mine > 1. I believe Ethel May Jones was buried in the Chinese Portion of the > Chiltern cemetery > > Birth, Ethel May Jones, Father Unknown, mother Mary Ann Jones,birth place > Chiltern, year 1894 Registration No. 19313R. Death father Unknown, age 1 > death place Chiltern, year 1896 Registration No.1159 > and > > 2. Mrs A E Jones buried 1899 Church of England. No other details known > > My Jones are: > George Albert Jones who married Christina Marion Buchan 1905 > Shire of Chiltern rate books (I was given this information years ago) > 1907 Jones was a tenant at a house in Epsom Rd owned by Enright at > Chiltern > 1915 George Jones owned land in Main Street > > Can someone tell me if the Shire of Chiltern rates books can be looked up > for more information ? > Regards > Kathryn > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Sebire" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 6:45 PM > Subject: Re: [AVNE] Buckland 1854 > > >> Denise, >> there are no deaths recorded for Buckland before 1881 in the Pioneers >> Index so it was probably known by some other name before then. Looked >> at Porepunkah (2 in 1888) and Ovens as Porepunkah was originally known >> as Ovens Crossing (1 also in 1888). No deaths for Brookside (half way >> between Porepunkah and Buckland) or for its earlier name Devils Creek, >> John Sebire >> >> Denise wrote: >> >> >Hi everyone >> > >> >Wondering if anyone has a death which occurred in Buckland in 1854 and > would let me know the registration number please. >> > >> >I have 5 deaths in 1854 and the registration numbers are all within 20 > numbers. Without having buying 5 certificates to find their death places, > I wondered if it would be at all possible to tell by perhaps another death > you may know about. >> > >> >Worth a try, >> > >> >regards >> >Denise >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.2/65 - Release Date: 07-Aug-05 >> >>

I am tyring to find out if these Jones are mine 1. I believe Ethel May Jones was buried in the Chinese Portion of the Chiltern cemetery Birth, Ethel May Jones, Father Unknown, mother Mary Ann Jones,birth place Chiltern, year 1894 Registration No. 19313R. Death father Unknown, age 1 death place Chiltern, year 1896 Registration No.1159 and 2. Mrs A E Jones buried 1899 Church of England. No other details known My Jones are: George Albert Jones who married Christina Marion Buchan 1905 Shire of Chiltern rate books (I was given this information years ago) 1907 Jones was a tenant at a house in Epsom Rd owned by Enright at Chiltern 1915 George Jones owned land in Main Street Can someone tell me if the Shire of Chiltern rates books can be looked up for more information ? Regards Kathryn ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Sebire" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Buckland 1854 > Denise, > there are no deaths recorded for Buckland before 1881 in the Pioneers > Index so it was probably known by some other name before then. Looked > at Porepunkah (2 in 1888) and Ovens as Porepunkah was originally known > as Ovens Crossing (1 also in 1888). No deaths for Brookside (half way > between Porepunkah and Buckland) or for its earlier name Devils Creek, > John Sebire > > Denise wrote: > > >Hi everyone > > > >Wondering if anyone has a death which occurred in Buckland in 1854 and would let me know the registration number please. > > > >I have 5 deaths in 1854 and the registration numbers are all within 20 numbers. Without having buying 5 certificates to find their death places, I wondered if it would be at all possible to tell by perhaps another death you may know about. > > > >Worth a try, > > > >regards > >Denise > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.2/65 - Release Date: 07-Aug-05 > >

Hello Anne, Thank you very much for your offer. Could you please see if there are any entries for: Hector MACDONALD. William WARREN. Richard WARREN. Thomas WARREN. William MADDERN. John MADDERN. Kindest Regards ...... Corinne in Melbourne.

Jenny If Francis Burns died at Benalla post 1924 he is not recorded on the Cemetery register nor does he have a gravestone there. Kel from Benalla

Thanks Kel, That may turn out to be very helpful. -- best wishes, Jenny

Sorry Christine, no Sidney Clark/e. Anne -----Original Message----- From: Christine Simmonds [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AVNE] Lookups offer Melbourne Commercial & Squatters Directory 1854 Hi Anne Can you please check if you have a listing for Sidney (Sydney) Spencer CLARK(e) - Carpenter? Regards Christine Simmonds ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hanson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 3:26 PM Subject: [AVNE] Lookups offer Melbourne Commercial & Squatters Directory 1854 > 27 July 2005 > > Hi All > > I have just purchased the above cd and am offering look ups BUT please > when > writing your look up request, give me the full name of the person you are > looking for and if possible their occupation. I do not need any other > details than the ones I've just mentioned. > > Cheers > > > Anne Hanson > > >

Hi Anne Can you please check if you have a listing for Sidney (Sydney) Spencer CLARK(e) - Carpenter? Regards Christine Simmonds ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hanson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 3:26 PM Subject: [AVNE] Lookups offer Melbourne Commercial & Squatters Directory 1854 > 27 July 2005 > > Hi All > > I have just purchased the above cd and am offering look ups BUT please > when > writing your look up request, give me the full name of the person you are > looking for and if possible their occupation. I do not need any other > details than the ones I've just mentioned. > > Cheers > > > Anne Hanson > > >

Dear Kathryn, I too have Cookes from S.A. I wondered if there might be a connection. Jas Cooke b 1814 in Scotland married Mary McPherson in Kingston S.A. One of their children Jas McPherson Cooke married Elizabeth McLaurin at Deniliquin NSW in 1893 They are buried in Brighton cemetery Victoria Happy Hunting, Margaret Kennedy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul & Kathryn Lucas" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 11:01 AM Subject: [AVNE] The power of a mailing list and the internet > Way back in 1980 I started to research my family. Bits of information > were > gathered very slowly. In those days I had to write letters and post them , > some even had to be sent by Airmail and then I had to wait for a reply ! > > Over the years I have put my Genealogy research to bed and vowed never to > touch it again! > > Then things got a little better people got the internet. Still some > branches > of the tree were hard to find. > One such branch lived in SA so information was scarce on documents. Since > 1980 I have not been able to get much information on the Cook family. > Then the mailing lists changed everything! > In a space of one month (in 2005) I find my Cook relatives from all over. > A > friend of my relative saw my posting, recognised the name and within a > week > I was speaking to my 85 year old cousin who had photos and information to > share! > I then found my other Cook members by writing to a local family history > society. > > I will now have to go on a road trip around Australia to meet all my "new" > relatives. > > Cheers > Kathryn > >

Thank you for your kind invitation. The information I have is Name: George Strain Occupation: hotelier The catch is he may not have been a squatter in 1854. Thanks John Strain -----Original Message----- From: Anne Hanson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, 9 August 2005 3:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AVNE] Lookups offer Melbourne Commercial & Squatters Directory 1854 27 July 2005 Hi All I have just purchased the above cd and am offering look ups BUT please when writing your look up request, give me the full name of the person you are looking for and if possible their occupation. I do not need any other details than the ones I've just mentioned. Cheers Anne Hanson

Way back in 1980 I started to research my family. Bits of information were gathered very slowly. In those days I had to write letters and post them , some even had to be sent by Airmail and then I had to wait for a reply ! Over the years I have put my Genealogy research to bed and vowed never to touch it again! Then things got a little better people got the internet. Still some branches of the tree were hard to find. One such branch lived in SA so information was scarce on documents. Since 1980 I have not been able to get much information on the Cook family. Then the mailing lists changed everything! In a space of one month (in 2005) I find my Cook relatives from all over. A friend of my relative saw my posting, recognised the name and within a week I was speaking to my 85 year old cousin who had photos and information to share! I then found my other Cook members by writing to a local family history society. I will now have to go on a road trip around Australia to meet all my "new" relatives. Cheers Kathryn

Thanks for trying. Regards, Terry ---------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hanson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 7:37 PM Subject: RE: [AVNE] Lookups offer Melbourne Commercial & Squatters Directory 1854 > Terry, > > Sorry no listing. > > Anne > > -----Original Message----- > From: tjk2001 [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 5:48 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AVNE] Lookups offer Melbourne Commercial & Squatters > Directory > 1854 > Importance: High > > Hi Anne, > > Would be very interested to see if you have anything on a John Doughney > (Doheny) who apparently owned Wando Vale Station at some time between 1854 > & > 1861 > His occupations vaned as follows - Innkeeper, Labourer, Squatter, Miner > His son James died at Wando Vale in 1854 aged 12 > > Regards, > > Terry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anne Hanson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 3:26 PM > Subject: [AVNE] Lookups offer Melbourne Commercial & Squatters Directory > 1854 > > >> 27 July 2005 >> >> Hi All >> >> I have just purchased the above cd and am offering look ups BUT please >> when >> writing your look up request, give me the full name of the person you are >> looking for and if possible their occupation. I do not need any other >> details than the ones I've just mentioned. >> >> Cheers >> >> >> Anne Hanson >> >> >

Terry, Sorry no listing. Anne -----Original Message----- From: tjk2001 [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 5:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AVNE] Lookups offer Melbourne Commercial & Squatters Directory 1854 Importance: High Hi Anne, Would be very interested to see if you have anything on a John Doughney (Doheny) who apparently owned Wando Vale Station at some time between 1854 & 1861 His occupations vaned as follows - Innkeeper, Labourer, Squatter, Miner His son James died at Wando Vale in 1854 aged 12 Regards, Terry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hanson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 3:26 PM Subject: [AVNE] Lookups offer Melbourne Commercial & Squatters Directory 1854 > 27 July 2005 > > Hi All > > I have just purchased the above cd and am offering look ups BUT please > when > writing your look up request, give me the full name of the person you are > looking for and if possible their occupation. I do not need any other > details than the ones I've just mentioned. > > Cheers > > > Anne Hanson > >

I have 5 deaths all registered within 20 numbers of one another. I am trying to find where these men died (all from the same area in their homeland) by thinking of what may have happened in 1854. I am assuming that by the closeness of the registrations numbers they were together or at least in the same area. If the numbers were not so close I wouldn't worry. I may be wrong. But try I must. We had Eureka. We had mining accidents, We had Colonial Fever in Buckland in 1854. It was known as Buckland River/ Buckland Valley when gold was found there in late 1853. One of the deaths I know occurred there was not registered. But it has nothing to do with the other 4. The death occurred during the Fever, so this proves many may have died without any registration at all. I am hoping that not ALL deaths went unregistered. The 5 I have no place of death recorded. So I am hoping someone has a death of some in their tree/research who died there and they have found this place by having the death certificate itself. I am working thru the obvious places which have occurred during the timeframe of my research and Buckland is definitely up there. It's a long shot, but stranger things have happened. Denise

Denise, there are no deaths recorded for Buckland before 1881 in the Pioneers Index so it was probably known by some other name before then. Looked at Porepunkah (2 in 1888) and Ovens as Porepunkah was originally known as Ovens Crossing (1 also in 1888). No deaths for Brookside (half way between Porepunkah and Buckland) or for its earlier name Devils Creek, John Sebire Denise wrote: >Hi everyone > >Wondering if anyone has a death which occurred in Buckland in 1854 and would let me know the registration number please. > >I have 5 deaths in 1854 and the registration numbers are all within 20 numbers. Without having buying 5 certificates to find their death places, I wondered if it would be at all possible to tell by perhaps another death you may know about. > >Worth a try, > >regards >Denise > > > > >

Hi everyone Wondering if anyone has a death which occurred in Buckland in 1854 and would let me know the registration number please. I have 5 deaths in 1854 and the registration numbers are all within 20 numbers. Without having buying 5 certificates to find their death places, I wondered if it would be at all possible to tell by perhaps another death you may know about. Worth a try, regards Denise