I downloaded my version of the above from the Familysearch website and like Doug have found it to be very good. Cheers Anne H. -----Original Message----- From: aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Doug MacLaren-Smith Sent: Wednesday, 24 January 2007 7:05 AM To: aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AVNE] Computer Program Dear Rae I have been using "Familysearch Personal Ancestral File 5.0" from LDS for many years and found it has everything I need and is very cheap to buy. Regards Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clive Walker" <clivew@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 6:28 PM Subject: [AVNE] Computer Program > Happy New Year to you all. > I wonder if I could have some suggestions as to a good program I could > buy for my family tree? I am getting sick of the limitations in saving > and copying Brothers Keeper which I am currently using. > Regards > Rae > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.4/643 - Release Date: 21/01/2007 5:12 PM > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.8/648 - Release Date: 23/01/2007 11:04 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.8/648 - Release Date: 23/01/2007 11:04 AM

Dear Rae I have been using "Familysearch Personal Ancestral File 5.0" from LDS for many years and found it has everything I need and is very cheap to buy. Regards Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clive Walker" <clivew@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 6:28 PM Subject: [AVNE] Computer Program > Happy New Year to you all. > I wonder if I could have some suggestions as to a good program I could > buy for my family tree? I am getting sick of the limitations in saving > and copying Brothers Keeper which I am currently using. > Regards > Rae > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.4/643 - Release Date: 21/01/2007 5:12 PM > >

Hi Michelle, You can retrieve these death notices through The Age archives but it costs $2.20AU each to view them. http://newsstore.fairfax.com.au/apps/newsSearch.ac?ac=search&rs=1&st=dc&ss=AGE&sy=age&sf=all&dt=selectRange&dr=1year&so=relevance&sp=0&rc=10&pb=all_ffx&kw=chammen There was also a legal notice in the Melbourne Herald Sun. See the Ryerson Index. http://www.rootsweb.com/~nswsdps/ausdc151.htm Also bookmark this site for any future notices. This site started in June 2006 and looks promising. http://www.obituary.com.au/obituary/ best wishes, Jenny Coates Melbourne's Unemployed in the 1890s http://home.primusonline.com.au/jennyc/Melbourne/ As I live in New Zealand, would there be a very kind soul who has access to the Age Newspaper, who could give me the details for the death notice for the following please CHAMMEN-Edna (Teddy)-Death notice-27MAR2006-Death---published in The Age (Melbourne)-28MAR2006. ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

Hi Rae, I would like to point that Choice Computer magazine November/December 2006 has an article called "discover your roots - family tree programs on test". It compared 11 programs. The article should be available from their web site. If you require more details please let me know. I do use Legacy which the Choice article didn't point out in their survey that there was a free version available. Legacy was rate 5th over all. Regards from Wagga Wagga, Wesley -----Original Message----- From: aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Clive Walker Sent: Tuesday, 23 January 2007 6:29 PM To: AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AVNE] Computer Program Happy New Year to you all. I wonder if I could have some suggestions as to a good program I could buy for my family tree? I am getting sick of the limitations in saving and copying Brothers Keeper which I am currently using. Regards Rae ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Most of the commercial programs have grown a bit long in the tooth, and are scratching around with trifling "improvements" to try to keep the cashflow moving. FTM is probably the worst example of this - the past 4 or 5 "models" have been rather similar. The worst aspect of FTM is that, if you crash the data, there is no way of recovering it. Yes, there are backup files in there, but they are not always reliable. Legacy is free (don't bother with the deluxe version - the extras are not a lot of use) and is based on Microsoft Access, the database in Microsoft Office. This is usually recoverable after a crash, and (if you know a little bit about databases) you can derive lots of additional info - eg, we did a table of "longest marriages" and a comparison of who had the most multiple marriages (the ladies won, as you might expect - men tend to die earlier than women). If you can see the data, you can use it. RootsMagic is very fast and very capable. Its a program that you might not like at first, but after a while, the strong sensibility of it wins you over, and you are hooked. About US$30, quite reasonable. The Master Genealogist is considered the Rolls Royce of programs, but a real b****** for newbies/first timers. A steep learning curve - give yourself a couple of years using one of the others before going this route. Keep a weather eye open for web-based programs - The Next Generation, PhpGedView spring to mind. These use a database on your ISP's server, and allow users (that you approve) to post collaborative data - work with you, as it were. If you don't approve users making changes, they can at least read the data. A relatively simple way of keeping web sites up to date with not a lot of work. My 2c worth... Paul

Clive, I use Family Tree Maker and I am more than happy with this. I did try a few others but I find FTM has all I want for the family details. Genie

I use Legacy and while not perfect, it suits my needs. I have tried many others, but keep coming back to it. The Standard version is free. I used this for several months before upgrading to Deluxe. http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/ Jennifer http://colston-wenck.com -----Original Message----- From: aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Clive Walker Sent: Tuesday, 23 January 2007 6:29 PM To: AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AVNE] Computer Program Happy New Year to you all. I wonder if I could have some suggestions as to a good program I could buy for my family tree? I am getting sick of the limitations in saving and copying Brothers Keeper which I am currently using. Regards Rae ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Happy New Year to you all. I wonder if I could have some suggestions as to a good program I could buy for my family tree? I am getting sick of the limitations in saving and copying Brothers Keeper which I am currently using. Regards Rae

Is there anyone with any information about William MacKay and his wife Mary Scully please ?? They were living Wahgunyah 1884 I am not sure of the spelling Thank you for your time Genie

Thank you Robyn. I have ordered the book from another source but thanks very much for thinking of me Regards Irene R -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.4/643 - Release Date: 1/21/07 5:12 PM

Hi again Irene, Have just found the ISBN of Ghost Towns of the High Country, which is 0-949600-38-5. Still give Paoletti's a ring, as he probably has it, regards Robyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Irene R" <ivrbjr@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 12:01 PM Subject: [AVNE] Secrets of Ghost Towns of the High Country > Hi Listers > > Could anyone please direct me to where I could buy a copy of the above > book > by Luke Steenhuis? I believe there is mention of two of my hard-to-track > ancestors in it. > > Regards > > Irene R on the Gold Coast > http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/Brent44 > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.3/642 - Release Date: 1/20/07 > 10:31 PM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *** Security Note *** ************************************************************************** Scanned by MDaemon SecurityPlus v3.03 and deemed to be virus free at this time Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:28:53 +1100 **************************************************************************

Hi Irene, "Secrets of Ghost Towns of the Mountain Goldfields" by Luke Steenhuis is distributed by Paoletti's (Adventure) Maps P/L 15 Nirvana Close Langwarrin, 3910 Ph 03 97896985 Fax 03 9776789 E-mail maptrap@netlink.com.au website http://users.netlink.com.au/~maptrap cost $19-95 plus postage Hope this helps Robyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Irene R" <ivrbjr@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 12:01 PM Subject: [AVNE] Secrets of Ghost Towns of the High Country > Hi Listers > > Could anyone please direct me to where I could buy a copy of the above > book > by Luke Steenhuis? I believe there is mention of two of my hard-to-track > ancestors in it. > > Regards > > Irene R on the Gold Coast > http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/Brent44 > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.3/642 - Release Date: 1/20/07 > 10:31 PM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *** Security Note *** ************************************************************************** Scanned by MDaemon SecurityPlus v3.03 and deemed to be virus free at this time Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:16:32 +1100 **************************************************************************

Hi Loretta, Which Dumbrells had the sawmills you referred to? William had a lot of offspring, most of whom I know little about. Since your last email I've found that he was in a Surrey workhouse, as an assumed orphan until he came out as a teenager in the 1840s and married in Sydney in about 1855. Kind of sounds like a scene from "Oliver". Ian >From: "Loretta" <wozret@bigpond.com> >Reply-To: aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com >To: <aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [AVNE] Dumbrell Family >Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 22:44:44 +1100 (AUS Eastern Standard Time) > >Hello Ian, >I know the Dumbrell name from doing some Strathbogie history. >Your Dumbrells had a sawmill there. > >So, just a note for your notes - >Dumbrell Brothers set up a sawmill at Strathbogie in 1904 and at the time >said there was enough timber there to last 10-12 years. > >In 1906, there is a reference stating Dumbrell's sawmill at Toorour has the >most up to date machinery, works from morning till night, requires 10 or 11 >teams, of 8 horses & employs 30 to 40 men. Seems as though they invented a >picket (as in for picket fence) planer and pointer and turned out 1000s per >day. >But in Sept. 1906 the mill was laying idle because of the state of the >road, >(they couldn't move the timber). > >Sorry but I don't have an end of story for you, because there are no more >mentions of them. > >There is a birth registered in Euroa in 1907 but other than that, that is >all I can tell you. > >regards Loretta > >-------Original Message------- > >From: Ian Foster >Date: 21/12/2006 11:32:54 PM >To: aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com >Subject: [AVNE] Dumbrell Family > >HI all NE Vic folk > >Does anyone know anything about the Dumbrell Family that lived in >Belvoir/Wodonga from the mid 1800s. William Dumbrell 1829-1912 managed a >sawmill in the town and at one point had heaps of descendents in the >district. > >Ian Foster > >_________________________________________________________________ >Advertisement: Fresh jobs daily. Stop waiting for the newspaper. Search >Now! >www.seek.com.au >http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b >aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau&_t=757263760&_r=Hotmail_EndTe >t_Dec06&_m=EXT > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message >. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Advertisement: Fresh jobs daily. Stop waiting for the newspaper. Search Now! www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau&_t=757263760&_r=Hotmail_EndText_Dec06&_m=EXT

Hi Listers To all those people who gave me kind offers of help. Thank you all very much but I have now ordered a copy of this book through the site Paul gave me. Apart from the rellies mentioned in it, it just sounds interesting to read. Thanks again and regards Irene R -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.3/642 - Release Date: 1/20/07 10:31 PM

Hi Irene I have a copy of the book. If you tell me the names you are looking for I could check it for you. Kathy Myles

I found it on this link http://home.vicnet.net.au/~jdhs/10publications.htm and others Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Myles" <kmyles@alphalink.com.au> To: <aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Secrets of Ghost Towns of the High Country > Hi Irene > > I have a copy of the book. If you tell me the names you are looking for I > could check it for you. > > Kathy Myles > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Paul Thanks for that tip. They had one and I have put in an order plus bookmarked the site. Regards Irene R -------Original Message------- From: Paul Blair Date: 01/21/07 03:57:04 PM To: aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AVNE] Secrets of Ghost Towns of the High Country What about: http://shop.boilingbilly.com.au/store/listCategoriesAndProducts shop?idCategory=11 Paul -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.3/642 - Release Date: 1/20/07 10:31 PM

What about: http://shop.boilingbilly.com.au/store/listCategoriesAndProducts.shop?idCategory=11 Paul At 04:45 pm 21-01-2007, you wrote: >Hi Rob and Bruce > >Thanks for your answers. I had forgotten ABE, but they don't have a copy >anyway, worse luck. I know of that book, Bruce, but I want the 'Secrets' one >as I have been told that two of my ancestors have small mentions. Will keep >trying them > >Thanks again and regards > >Irene R > >-------Original Message------- > >From: rob-b >Date: 01/21/07 02:49:59 PM >To: aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [AVNE] Secrets of Ghost Towns of the High Country > >OK -I'll try again! abebooks.com .... > > > > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.3/642 - Release Date: >1/20/07 10:31 PM > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

OK -I'll try again! abebooks.com .... ----- Original Message ----- From: "rob-b" <rob-b@bigpond.com> To: <aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Secrets of Ghost Towns of the High Country > or just abebooke.com (leave out the au) > Rob > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "rob-b" <rob-b@bigpond.com> > To: "bruce johnson" <brucej@alphalink.com.au>; <aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 1:24 PM > Subject: Re: [AVNE] Secrets of Ghost Towns of the High Country > > >>a great online resource for old/out of print books is abebooks.com.au. >>Just >> about every second-hand book seller in the WORLD is linked to it, and you >> can get great prices, but more importantly, find books that it would >> otherwise take years to track down. You can search australia only or the >> world and it will give you locations, prices and editions etc. >> good luck, >> Rob >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "bruce johnson" <brucej@alphalink.com.au> >> To: <aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 1:20 PM >> Subject: Re: [AVNE] Secrets of Ghost Towns of the High Country >> >> >>>i have a book by luke steenhuis >>> called ghost towns of the mountain goldfields >>> if thats any help >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Irene R" <ivrbjr@bigpond.net.au> >>> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 12:01 PM >>> Subject: [AVNE] Secrets of Ghost Towns of the High Country >>> >>> >>>> Hi Listers >>>> >>>> Could anyone please direct me to where I could buy a copy of the above >>> book >>>> by Luke Steenhuis? I believe there is mention of two of my >>>> hard-to-track >>>> ancestors in it. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Irene R on the Gold Coast >>>> http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/Brent44 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>> Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.3/642 - Release Date: 1/20/07 >>> 10:31 PM >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Rob and Bruce Thanks for your answers. I had forgotten ABE, but they don't have a copy anyway, worse luck. I know of that book, Bruce, but I want the 'Secrets' one as I have been told that two of my ancestors have small mentions. Will keep trying them Thanks again and regards Irene R -------Original Message------- From: rob-b Date: 01/21/07 02:49:59 PM To: aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AVNE] Secrets of Ghost Towns of the High Country OK -I'll try again! abebooks.com .... -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.3/642 - Release Date: 1/20/07 10:31 PM