I hope this makes it thru the clogged mail at rootsweb and to the list. Many thanks Ronda for the copies sent in the mail. Fortunately it told me two or three new things about grandfather. One, the timeframe for the arrival back in Victoria, and most importantly where they were in W.A. Another interesting item was the address at top of one letter 'Agricultural Department" Hamel, W.A. Now what on earth was he doing there! This is the best I've ever had on him, so thanks very much Ronda. regards Denise