Kerry, Thanks. Yes, The 1841 Census refers to my Robert - he was residing at the property known as Cogenburgh (near Bungonia) and most of the children were baptised there. The 1839 reference to land is something I shall have to try and follow up next time I go to Sydney. The other two references are not mine. Regards, Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Unassisted Immigrants 1842-55 - Sydney > You may have these Wendy from NSW State Archive, haven't finished search on convicts. > The page to search these here http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/keyname_search_2187.asp > you may also order copies. > Land Records > > MILNE Robert date 1839 > > 1841 Census NSW > > MILNE Robert "Cogenburgh", County Argyle, District Goulburn [X946] 151 2222 > > MILNE Robert age 16 ship Boanerges year 1857 arriving in Sydney and Newcastle 2138, 2475 > > Jail Photo > > MILNE Jacob Robert born 1837 Glasgow photo at Darlinghurst 5/05/1893 > > Kerry > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Wendy > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 6:40 PM > Subject: Re: [HC] Unassisted Immigrants 1842-55 - Sydney > > > Jenny, > > I have searched hard for the arrival of my ggg-grandfather Robert MILNE (or > MILNES) believed to have been around 1832 in Sydney. Do you have any > suggestions for me please? I've tried the books at the library and also the > online shipping indexes. Nor can I find any trace of his wife Jessie (or > Janet) BRIMMER. I believe Robert may have been an unassisted immigrant but > don't know for sure. H did appear to have had some money and was able to > acquire some property in NSW before he came to the N/E around 1846. He came > originally from Lancashire so may have sailed out of Liverpool. > > Regards, > Wendy > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jenny Fawcett" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 4:51 PM > Subject: Re: [HC] Unassisted Immigrants 1842-55 - Sydney > > > > Jacki > > have you tried Mary Ann Warner's site? It is a work in progress....all > ships > > and passenger into Sydney c1855 - 1900's > > http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/shipdate.htm > > > > > > cheers > > Jenny > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.10/120 - Release Date: 5/10/2005 > >

Hi Wendy the reference I gave you CSreLand Ref: 2/7928 1163 MILNE Robert 1839 (means Colonial Secretary re land) Colonial Secretary's papers, 1826-56, the major official primary source for Australian history in the first half of the nineteenth century. The index covers requests from individuals for land - leases and purchases - received by the Colonial Secretary's office between 1826 and 1856. These letters were separated out of the main series of incoming correspondence. They can be very important because the applicant often provides background information about themselves that is not available in any other source. Microfilm copies of the Letters received by the Colonial Secretary re Land, 1826-56 are available in both reading rooms. The reference above is the search returns item and reel numbers If you go here http://www.lands.nsw.gov.au/MapsAndPhotos/default.htm you can then search the parish maps to see his land. Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: Wendy To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Unassisted Immigrants 1842-55 - Sydney Kerry, Thanks. Yes, The 1841 Census refers to my Robert - he was residing at the property known as Cogenburgh (near Bungonia) and most of the children were baptised there. The 1839 reference to land is something I shall have to try and follow up next time I go to Sydney. The other two references are not mine. Regards, Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Unassisted Immigrants 1842-55 - Sydney > You may have these Wendy from NSW State Archive, haven't finished search on convicts. > The page to search these here http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/keyname_search_2187.asp > you may also order copies. > Land Records > > MILNE Robert date 1839 > > 1841 Census NSW > > MILNE Robert "Cogenburgh", County Argyle, District Goulburn [X946] 151 2222 > > MILNE Robert age 16 ship Boanerges year 1857 arriving in Sydney and Newcastle 2138, 2475 > > Jail Photo > > MILNE Jacob Robert born 1837 Glasgow photo at Darlinghurst 5/05/1893 > > Kerry > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Wendy > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 6:40 PM > Subject: Re: [HC] Unassisted Immigrants 1842-55 - Sydney > > > Jenny, > > I have searched hard for the arrival of my ggg-grandfather Robert MILNE (or > MILNES) believed to have been around 1832 in Sydney. Do you have any > suggestions for me please? I've tried the books at the library and also the > online shipping indexes. Nor can I find any trace of his wife Jessie (or > Janet) BRIMMER. I believe Robert may have been an unassisted immigrant but > don't know for sure. H did appear to have had some money and was able to > acquire some property in NSW before he came to the N/E around 1846. He came > originally from Lancashire so may have sailed out of Liverpool. > > Regards, > Wendy > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jenny Fawcett" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 4:51 PM > Subject: Re: [HC] Unassisted Immigrants 1842-55 - Sydney > > > > Jacki > > have you tried Mary Ann Warner's site? It is a work in progress....all > ships > > and passenger into Sydney c1855 - 1900's > > http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/shipdate.htm > > > > > > cheers > > Jenny > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.10/120 - Release Date: 5/10/2005 > > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.10/120 - Release Date: 5/10/2005

Hi Kerry, Thanks for this additional information - trouble is I live in Melbourne and I assume the reading rooms are both in Sydney? When I looked on the Web it seems that one can't send in a request for copies of these letters - you have to do it personally? I suspect this is in regard to land in Bungonia - a property called 'Cogenburgh' where the famaily lived for a few years before Robert came to Victoria. But he allegedly also had property in the Hunter Valley so I really do need to check it out. I revery much appreciate your assistance, Cheers, Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 12:56 AM Subject: Re: [HC] Robert Milne > Hi Wendy the reference I gave you > CSreLand Ref: 2/7928 1163 MILNE Robert 1839 > > (means Colonial Secretary re land) > > Colonial Secretary's papers, 1826-56, the major official primary source for Australian history in the first half of the nineteenth century. The index covers requests from individuals for land - leases and purchases - received by the Colonial Secretary's office between 1826 and 1856. These letters were separated out of the main series of incoming correspondence. They can be very important because the applicant often provides background information about themselves that is not available in any other source. Microfilm copies of the Letters received by the Colonial Secretary re Land, 1826-56 are available in both reading rooms. > > The reference above is the search returns item and reel numbers > > If you go here http://www.lands.nsw.gov.au/MapsAndPhotos/default.htm > > you can then search the parish maps to see his land. > > Kerry > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Wendy > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 5:21 PM > Subject: Re: [HC] Unassisted Immigrants 1842-55 - Sydney > > > Kerry, > > Thanks. Yes, The 1841 Census refers to my Robert - he was residing at the > property known as Cogenburgh (near Bungonia) and most of the children were > baptised there. The 1839 reference to land is something I shall have to try > and > follow up next time I go to Sydney. The other two references are not mine. > > Regards, > Wendy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kerry" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 7:03 PM > Subject: Re: [HC] Unassisted Immigrants 1842-55 - Sydney > > > > You may have these Wendy from NSW State Archive, haven't finished search > on convicts. > > The page to search these here > http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/keyname_search_2187.asp > > you may also order copies. > > Land Records > > > > MILNE Robert date 1839 > > > > 1841 Census NSW > > > > MILNE Robert "Cogenburgh", County Argyle, District Goulburn [X946] 151 > 2222 > > > > MILNE Robert age 16 ship Boanerges year 1857 arriving in Sydney and > Newcastle 2138, 2475 > > > > Jail Photo > > > > MILNE Jacob Robert born 1837 Glasgow photo at Darlinghurst 5/05/1893 > > > > Kerry > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Wendy > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 6:40 PM > > Subject: Re: [HC] Unassisted Immigrants 1842-55 - Sydney > > > > > > Jenny, > > > > I have searched hard for the arrival of my ggg-grandfather Robert MILNE > (or > > MILNES) believed to have been around 1832 in Sydney. Do you have any > > suggestions for me please? I've tried the books at the library and also > the > > online shipping indexes. Nor can I find any trace of his wife Jessie > (or > > Janet) BRIMMER. I believe Robert may have been an unassisted immigrant > but > > don't know for sure. H did appear to have had some money and was able > to > > acquire some property in NSW before he came to the N/E around 1846. He > came > > originally from Lancashire so may have sailed out of Liverpool. > > > > Regards, > > Wendy > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jenny Fawcett" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 4:51 PM > > Subject: Re: [HC] Unassisted Immigrants 1842-55 - Sydney > > > > > > > Jacki > > > have you tried Mary Ann Warner's site? It is a work in progress....all > > ships > > > and passenger into Sydney c1855 - 1900's > > > http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/shipdate.htm > > > > > > > > > cheers > > > Jenny > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.10/120 - Release Date: > 5/10/2005 > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.10/120 - Release Date: 5/10/2005 > >