Hello Bev and other interested members, I am also here and thought the list had gone quiet due to a member complaining about the chat that was not necessarily on family history. In my opinion part of this wonderful list was (is) the companionship and helpfulness of the list, everyone appears to encourage when one's searching begins to appear nigh on impossible. Keep up the good work everyone. Zola Researching : Pearce (Pierce), Barter, Beach (Betsch) Mahoney, Hart, Woolner, all in the high country area, plus the following Henderson, Mack, Addison, Freeman, Gracie, Nielson. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bev Walker" <bbwalker@vic.chariot.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:11 AM Subject: RE: [HC] no messages > Hi Denise, > I too am here, most of the time, plugging away at breaking > down all the brick walls my ancestors appear to have built > around themselves. They must have had a lot to hide. > > The Americans are the easiest for me, the history has been > well documented in America but once they came here it has > been harder to find. > > Most of my rellies were in the High Country around Omeo > and involved in farming and goldmining. They were > Sloan, Walter. Born USA. > Forsyth, Helen, borm Scotland, married the above Walter. > Many of the Forsyths were in the gold business and some > were lucky. > Forsyths were also prominent in Bright and all around that > area. There is another branch of the Sloan family who were > pioneers in that area, Isaac Sloan. > > So anything about Sloan, Forsyth families and their activities > are of particular interest to me. > > I have just found, for the information of Sloan's on the list, > the place where Grant Sloan died in South Africa in 1909. Thanks > to Max Dyer, and his constant search for historical events, that > I now have this info and hopefully follow it through to get a > death certificate, and burial place. I have a lovely photo of his > grave but there is not shred of evidence to suggest where it is. > My dream would be realized if that > were possible. ANY HELP with the difficult South Africa records > would be most helpful. > > I too miss the friendly chat and banter on the List, also the > information and the generosity of the Listers. It was always > nice to get up and see a long list of emails waiting to be read. > We all have other business to attend to and it is not so easy > to make the time stretch to get everything in now days. I am > sure that my advancing years also hold me back!!!!! > Best wishes to all, Bev. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] > Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2004 12:29 AM > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HC] no messages > > > Richard - the list has been so quiet these past months, I wonder if any of > the regulars are still members. I've heard of Wendy, Lyn, Ronda, Chris, > Peter, where is everyone else? With over 200 members as Di says, what > happened to the other 190? Why not have a roll call and see how many > listers > are actually interested in connecting with others? What or who are you > researching Robert? > > My interests in the northeast are the names I posted last week, plus from > the 1800s > Carboor Cheese Factory about which I know very very little > Carboor Hotel (Forest Park Hotel) > Coaching industry in the northeast and southern NSW > Mining > Wooragee, Everton, Beechworth, Woolshed, Chiltern > and the Upper Murray area. > > I am also interested in learning about Americans in the northeast - the > way > my research has taken me I now wouldn't be surprised to find family other > than Hiram, from America, in the area. > > Who else is game to list their interests. > Denise > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.784 / Virus Database: 530 - Release Date: 27/10/2004 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.784 / Virus Database: 530 - Release Date: 27/10/2004 > >

Hi Zola, Which Hart and from where? Oxley, King Valley. Cheers Ray. ----- Original Message ----- From: Zola Ortenburg <zolaortenburg@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [HC] no messages > Hello Bev and other interested members, > I am also here and thought the list had gone quiet due to a member > complaining about the chat that was not necessarily on family history. In > my opinion part of this wonderful list was (is) the companionship and > helpfulness of the list, everyone appears to encourage when one's searching > begins to appear nigh on impossible. > Keep up the good work everyone. > Zola > Researching : Pearce (Pierce), Barter, Beach (Betsch) Mahoney, Hart, > Woolner, all in the high country area, plus the following Henderson, Mack, > Addison, Freeman, Gracie, Nielson. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bev Walker" <bbwalker@vic.chariot.net.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:11 AM > Subject: RE: [HC] no messages > > > > Hi Denise, > > I too am here, most of the time, plugging away at breaking > > down all the brick walls my ancestors appear to have built > > around themselves. They must have had a lot to hide. > > > > The Americans are the easiest for me, the history has been > > well documented in America but once they came here it has > > been harder to find. > > > > Most of my rellies were in the High Country around Omeo > > and involved in farming and goldmining. They were > > Sloan, Walter. Born USA. > > Forsyth, Helen, borm Scotland, married the above Walter. > > Many of the Forsyths were in the gold business and some > > were lucky. > > Forsyths were also prominent in Bright and all around that > > area. There is another branch of the Sloan family who were > > pioneers in that area, Isaac Sloan. > > > > So anything about Sloan, Forsyth families and their activities > > are of particular interest to me. > > > > I have just found, for the information of Sloan's on the list, > > the place where Grant Sloan died in South Africa in 1909. Thanks > > to Max Dyer, and his constant search for historical events, that > > I now have this info and hopefully follow it through to get a > > death certificate, and burial place. I have a lovely photo of his > > grave but there is not shred of evidence to suggest where it is. > > My dream would be realized if that > > were possible. ANY HELP with the difficult South Africa records > > would be most helpful. > > > > I too miss the friendly chat and banter on the List, also the > > information and the generosity of the Listers. It was always > > nice to get up and see a long list of emails waiting to be read. > > We all have other business to attend to and it is not so easy > > to make the time stretch to get everything in now days. I am > > sure that my advancing years also hold me back!!!!! > > Best wishes to all, Bev. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] > > Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2004 12:29 AM > > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [HC] no messages > > > > > > Richard - the list has been so quiet these past months, I wonder if any of > > the regulars are still members. I've heard of Wendy, Lyn, Ronda, Chris, > > Peter, where is everyone else? With over 200 members as Di says, what > > happened to the other 190? Why not have a roll call and see how many > > listers > > are actually interested in connecting with others? What or who are you > > researching Robert? > > > > My interests in the northeast are the names I posted last week, plus from > > the 1800s > > Carboor Cheese Factory about which I know very very little > > Carboor Hotel (Forest Park Hotel) > > Coaching industry in the northeast and southern NSW > > Mining > > Wooragee, Everton, Beechworth, Woolshed, Chiltern > > and the Upper Murray area. > > > > I am also interested in learning about Americans in the northeast - the > > way > > my research has taken me I now wouldn't be surprised to find family other > > than Hiram, from America, in the area. > > > > Who else is game to list their interests. > > Denise > > > > --- > > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.784 / Virus Database: 530 - Release Date: 27/10/2004 > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.784 / Virus Database: 530 - Release Date: 27/10/2004 > > > > > >

Hi Denise, Bev, Zola, Ray and everyone that I have missed I have days where I can contribute and others where its head down and ---up working on putting all this gobbley gook together. I will try and explain what I'm up too, I am putting together a book that is about a group of Irish from Limerick, parishes being Glin and Shannagolden they were sent to Botany Bay in 1839 and were the first assisted passengers (others being convicts) They were given hell in Botany Bay as the squatters saw then as the beginning of ridding Ireland of is paupers at the squatters expense. Only three of this group remained in Sydney. The others headed and settled in areas like the Tumut, Manaro, Yass, Yackandandah, and Pakenham.(Gipplands before it had a road 1841) Their main purpose was to work and bring out family members and then they bought out family, so they started like a pyramid which criss-crosses the High Country. And they stayed very much as a cohesive group. There are also letters that they have written back to Ireland sending money etc.. Some of the names are: Healy, Dempsy, Nash, Nolan, Sheehy, Sheahan, O'Connor, O'Brian, Costello, Culhane, Enright, Kennelly, Hayes, Griffin, Gallagher, Danahar, McNamara, O'Connell, Connelly, Donnelly, Shanahan, Fitzgerald. (very Limerick names) For example: The Yackandandah family were the James O'Conor (connor) from Loughill near Glin parish and his wife Johanna Welch, with their four children they set off from Botany Bay with a dray and made it to Tumut where he was employed. In 1841 he is squatting at Gooquek Flat, then 1849 appears in Kiewa Valley. Then in 1853 he is leasing Murramurranbong station near Yackandandah. Then he is found in Beechworth. His son built the Junction Hotel (later Blazing Stump) near Wodonga. Their descendants are still around the North East today. So why I have put all this here is because from time to time I will need support from anyone that has connections with these names. For example Zola some of their descendants took off to New Zealand during the Goldrush in Otago. Are you able to access mining registers over there around Pipers Flat, I'm looking for John Culhane and wife Ellen nee O'Connor (1868) he returned and settled at Briagolong and James Enright and Bridget (nee)Hastings, I think he died over there or Bathurst (1872). He had a pub at Grant near Dargo. Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zola Ortenburg" <zolaortenburg@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [HC] no messages Hello Bev and other interested members, I am also here and thought the list had gone quiet due to a member complaining about the chat that was not necessarily on family history. In my opinion part of this wonderful list was (is) the companionship and helpfulness of the list, everyone appears to encourage when one's searching begins to appear nigh on impossible. Keep up the good work everyone. Zola Researching : Pearce (Pierce), Barter, Beach (Betsch) Mahoney, Hart, Woolner, all in the high country area, plus the following Henderson, Mack, Addison, Freeman, Gracie, Nielson. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bev Walker" <bbwalker@vic.chariot.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:11 AM Subject: RE: [HC] no messages > Hi Denise, > I too am here, most of the time, plugging away at breaking > down all the brick walls my ancestors appear to have built > around themselves. They must have had a lot to hide. > > The Americans are the easiest for me, the history has been > well documented in America but once they came here it has > been harder to find. > > Most of my rellies were in the High Country around Omeo > and involved in farming and goldmining. They were > Sloan, Walter. Born USA. > Forsyth, Helen, borm Scotland, married the above Walter. > Many of the Forsyths were in the gold business and some > were lucky. > Forsyths were also prominent in Bright and all around that > area. There is another branch of the Sloan family who were > pioneers in that area, Isaac Sloan. > > So anything about Sloan, Forsyth families and their activities > are of particular interest to me. > > I have just found, for the information of Sloan's on the list, > the place where Grant Sloan died in South Africa in 1909. Thanks > to Max Dyer, and his constant search for historical events, that > I now have this info and hopefully follow it through to get a > death certificate, and burial place. I have a lovely photo of his > grave but there is not shred of evidence to suggest where it is. > My dream would be realized if that > were possible. ANY HELP with the difficult South Africa records > would be most helpful. > > I too miss the friendly chat and banter on the List, also the > information and the generosity of the Listers. It was always > nice to get up and see a long list of emails waiting to be read. > We all have other business to attend to and it is not so easy > to make the time stretch to get everything in now days. I am > sure that my advancing years also hold me back!!!!! > Best wishes to all, Bev. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] > Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2004 12:29 AM > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HC] no messages > > > Richard - the list has been so quiet these past months, I wonder if any of > the regulars are still members. I've heard of Wendy, Lyn, Ronda, Chris, > Peter, where is everyone else? With over 200 members as Di says, what > happened to the other 190? Why not have a roll call and see how many > listers > are actually interested in connecting with others? What or who are you > researching Robert? > > My interests in the northeast are the names I posted last week, plus from > the 1800s > Carboor Cheese Factory about which I know very very little > Carboor Hotel (Forest Park Hotel) > Coaching industry in the northeast and southern NSW > Mining > Wooragee, Everton, Beechworth, Woolshed, Chiltern > and the Upper Murray area. > > I am also interested in learning about Americans in the northeast - the > way > my research has taken me I now wouldn't be surprised to find family other > than Hiram, from America, in the area. > > Who else is game to list their interests. > Denise > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.784 / Virus Database: 530 - Release Date: 27/10/2004 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.784 / Virus Database: 530 - Release Date: 27/10/2004 > >

I'm still here, still plugging away at lots of branches, twigs and somtimes I think leaves. Study, work and 16 year old daughter, make life busy. Noeleen

Hi Kerry, Great to hear your about your researching, how on earth did you get all that information? Well done. I am sorry, I think you must have me mixed up with someone else, I live in Melbourne so can't help you with NZ. All the best. Regards, Zola ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry" <kerryb@austarnet.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [HC] no messages > Hi Denise, Bev, Zola, Ray and everyone that I have missed > > I have days where I can contribute and others where its head down > and ---up > working on putting all this gobbley gook together. > > I will try and explain what I'm up too, I am putting together a book that > is > about a group of Irish from Limerick, parishes being Glin and Shannagolden > they were sent to Botany Bay in 1839 and were the first assisted > passengers > (others being convicts) They were given hell in Botany Bay as the > squatters > saw then as the beginning of ridding Ireland of is paupers at the > squatters > expense. Only three of this group remained in Sydney. The others headed > and > settled in areas like the Tumut, Manaro, Yass, Yackandandah, and > Pakenham.(Gipplands before it had a road 1841) Their main purpose was to > work and bring out family members and then they bought out family, so they > started like a pyramid which criss-crosses the High Country. And they > stayed > very much as a cohesive group. There are also letters that they have > written > back to Ireland sending money etc.. Some of the names are: > Healy, Dempsy, Nash, Nolan, Sheehy, Sheahan, O'Connor, O'Brian, Costello, > Culhane, Enright, Kennelly, Hayes, Griffin, Gallagher, Danahar, McNamara, > O'Connell, Connelly, Donnelly, Shanahan, Fitzgerald. (very Limerick names) > > For example: The Yackandandah family were the James O'Conor (connor) from > Loughill near Glin parish and his wife Johanna Welch, with their four > children they set off from Botany Bay with a dray and made it to Tumut > where > he was employed. In 1841 he is squatting at Gooquek Flat, then 1849 > appears > in Kiewa Valley. Then in 1853 he is leasing Murramurranbong station near > Yackandandah. Then he is found in Beechworth. His son built the Junction > Hotel (later Blazing Stump) near Wodonga. Their descendants are still > around > the North East today. > > So why I have put all this here is because from time to time I will need > support from anyone that has connections with these names. For example > Zola > some of their descendants took off to New Zealand during the Goldrush in > Otago. Are you able to access mining registers over there around Pipers > Flat, I'm looking for John Culhane and wife Ellen nee O'Connor (1868) he > returned and settled at Briagolong and James Enright and Bridget > (nee)Hastings, I think he died over there or Bathurst (1872). He had a pub > at Grant near Dargo. > > > Kerry > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zola Ortenburg" <zolaortenburg@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:33 AM > Subject: Re: [HC] no messages > > > Hello Bev and other interested members, > I am also here and thought the list had gone quiet due to a member > complaining about the chat that was not necessarily on family history. In > my opinion part of this wonderful list was (is) the companionship and > helpfulness of the list, everyone appears to encourage when one's > searching > begins to appear nigh on impossible. > Keep up the good work everyone. > Zola > Researching : Pearce (Pierce), Barter, Beach (Betsch) Mahoney, Hart, > Woolner, all in the high country area, plus the following Henderson, Mack, > Addison, Freeman, Gracie, Nielson. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bev Walker" <bbwalker@vic.chariot.net.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:11 AM > Subject: RE: [HC] no messages > > >> Hi Denise, >> I too am here, most of the time, plugging away at breaking >> down all the brick walls my ancestors appear to have built >> around themselves. They must have had a lot to hide. >> >> The Americans are the easiest for me, the history has been >> well documented in America but once they came here it has >> been harder to find. >> >> Most of my rellies were in the High Country around Omeo >> and involved in farming and goldmining. They were >> Sloan, Walter. Born USA. >> Forsyth, Helen, borm Scotland, married the above Walter. >> Many of the Forsyths were in the gold business and some >> were lucky. >> Forsyths were also prominent in Bright and all around that >> area. There is another branch of the Sloan family who were >> pioneers in that area, Isaac Sloan. >> >> So anything about Sloan, Forsyth families and their activities >> are of particular interest to me. >> >> I have just found, for the information of Sloan's on the list, >> the place where Grant Sloan died in South Africa in 1909. Thanks >> to Max Dyer, and his constant search for historical events, that >> I now have this info and hopefully follow it through to get a >> death certificate, and burial place. I have a lovely photo of his >> grave but there is not shred of evidence to suggest where it is. >> My dream would be realized if that >> were possible. ANY HELP with the difficult South Africa records >> would be most helpful. >> >> I too miss the friendly chat and banter on the List, also the >> information and the generosity of the Listers. It was always >> nice to get up and see a long list of emails waiting to be read. >> We all have other business to attend to and it is not so easy >> to make the time stretch to get everything in now days. I am >> sure that my advancing years also hold me back!!!!! >> Best wishes to all, Bev. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] >> Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2004 12:29 AM >> To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [HC] no messages >> >> >> Richard - the list has been so quiet these past months, I wonder if any >> of >> the regulars are still members. I've heard of Wendy, Lyn, Ronda, Chris, >> Peter, where is everyone else? With over 200 members as Di says, what >> happened to the other 190? Why not have a roll call and see how many >> listers >> are actually interested in connecting with others? What or who are you >> researching Robert? >> >> My interests in the northeast are the names I posted last week, plus from >> the 1800s >> Carboor Cheese Factory about which I know very very little >> Carboor Hotel (Forest Park Hotel) >> Coaching industry in the northeast and southern NSW >> Mining >> Wooragee, Everton, Beechworth, Woolshed, Chiltern >> and the Upper Murray area. >> >> I am also interested in learning about Americans in the northeast - the >> way >> my research has taken me I now wouldn't be surprised to find family other >> than Hiram, from America, in the area. >> >> Who else is game to list their interests. >> Denise >> >> --- >> Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >> Version: 6.0.784 / Virus Database: 530 - Release Date: 27/10/2004 >> >> --- >> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >> Version: 6.0.784 / Virus Database: 530 - Release Date: 27/10/2004 >> >> > > >

Hi Kerry, You mentioned Costello in your group, was that a P. Costello? No, not the one that handles all our cash, but one who had property in the Carboor, Whorouly South area in the early years. Cheers Ray. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kerry <kerryb@austarnet.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [HC] no messages > Hi Denise, Bev, Zola, Ray and everyone that I have missed > > I have days where I can contribute and others where its head down and ---up > working on putting all this gobbley gook together. > > I will try and explain what I'm up too, I am putting together a book that is > about a group of Irish from Limerick, parishes being Glin and Shannagolden > they were sent to Botany Bay in 1839 and were the first assisted passengers > (others being convicts) They were given hell in Botany Bay as the squatters > saw then as the beginning of ridding Ireland of is paupers at the squatters > expense. Only three of this group remained in Sydney. The others headed and > settled in areas like the Tumut, Manaro, Yass, Yackandandah, and > Pakenham.(Gipplands before it had a road 1841) Their main purpose was to > work and bring out family members and then they bought out family, so they > started like a pyramid which criss-crosses the High Country. And they stayed > very much as a cohesive group. There are also letters that they have written > back to Ireland sending money etc.. Some of the names are: > Healy, Dempsy, Nash, Nolan, Sheehy, Sheahan, O'Connor, O'Brian, Costello, > Culhane, Enright, Kennelly, Hayes, Griffin, Gallagher, Danahar, McNamara, > O'Connell, Connelly, Donnelly, Shanahan, Fitzgerald. (very Limerick names) > > For example: The Yackandandah family were the James O'Conor (connor) from > Loughill near Glin parish and his wife Johanna Welch, with their four > children they set off from Botany Bay with a dray and made it to Tumut where > he was employed. In 1841 he is squatting at Gooquek Flat, then 1849 appears > in Kiewa Valley. Then in 1853 he is leasing Murramurranbong station near > Yackandandah. Then he is found in Beechworth. His son built the Junction > Hotel (later Blazing Stump) near Wodonga. Their descendants are still around > the North East today. > > So why I have put all this here is because from time to time I will need > support from anyone that has connections with these names. For example Zola > some of their descendants took off to New Zealand during the Goldrush in > Otago. Are you able to access mining registers over there around Pipers > Flat, I'm looking for John Culhane and wife Ellen nee O'Connor (1868) he > returned and settled at Briagolong and James Enright and Bridget > (nee)Hastings, I think he died over there or Bathurst (1872). He had a pub > at Grant near Dargo. > > > Kerry > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zola Ortenburg" <zolaortenburg@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:33 AM > Subject: Re: [HC] no messages > > > Hello Bev and other interested members, > I am also here and thought the list had gone quiet due to a member > complaining about the chat that was not necessarily on family history. In > my opinion part of this wonderful list was (is) the companionship and > helpfulness of the list, everyone appears to encourage when one's searching > begins to appear nigh on impossible. > Keep up the good work everyone. > Zola > Researching : Pearce (Pierce), Barter, Beach (Betsch) Mahoney, Hart, > Woolner, all in the high country area, plus the following Henderson, Mack, > Addison, Freeman, Gracie, Nielson. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bev Walker" <bbwalker@vic.chariot.net.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:11 AM > Subject: RE: [HC] no messages > > > > Hi Denise, > > I too am here, most of the time, plugging away at breaking > > down all the brick walls my ancestors appear to have built > > around themselves. They must have had a lot to hide. > > > > The Americans are the easiest for me, the history has been > > well documented in America but once they came here it has > > been harder to find. > > > > Most of my rellies were in the High Country around Omeo > > and involved in farming and goldmining. They were > > Sloan, Walter. Born USA. > > Forsyth, Helen, borm Scotland, married the above Walter. > > Many of the Forsyths were in the gold business and some > > were lucky. > > Forsyths were also prominent in Bright and all around that > > area. There is another branch of the Sloan family who were > > pioneers in that area, Isaac Sloan. > > > > So anything about Sloan, Forsyth families and their activities > > are of particular interest to me. > > > > I have just found, for the information of Sloan's on the list, > > the place where Grant Sloan died in South Africa in 1909. Thanks > > to Max Dyer, and his constant search for historical events, that > > I now have this info and hopefully follow it through to get a > > death certificate, and burial place. I have a lovely photo of his > > grave but there is not shred of evidence to suggest where it is. > > My dream would be realized if that > > were possible. ANY HELP with the difficult South Africa records > > would be most helpful. > > > > I too miss the friendly chat and banter on the List, also the > > information and the generosity of the Listers. It was always > > nice to get up and see a long list of emails waiting to be read. > > We all have other business to attend to and it is not so easy > > to make the time stretch to get everything in now days. I am > > sure that my advancing years also hold me back!!!!! > > Best wishes to all, Bev. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] > > Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2004 12:29 AM > > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [HC] no messages > > > > > > Richard - the list has been so quiet these past months, I wonder if any of > > the regulars are still members. I've heard of Wendy, Lyn, Ronda, Chris, > > Peter, where is everyone else? With over 200 members as Di says, what > > happened to the other 190? Why not have a roll call and see how many > > listers > > are actually interested in connecting with others? What or who are you > > researching Robert? > > > > My interests in the northeast are the names I posted last week, plus from > > the 1800s > > Carboor Cheese Factory about which I know very very little > > Carboor Hotel (Forest Park Hotel) > > Coaching industry in the northeast and southern NSW > > Mining > > Wooragee, Everton, Beechworth, Woolshed, Chiltern > > and the Upper Murray area. > > > > I am also interested in learning about Americans in the northeast - the > > way > > my research has taken me I now wouldn't be surprised to find family other > > than Hiram, from America, in the area. > > > > Who else is game to list their interests. > > Denise > > > > --- > > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.784 / Virus Database: 530 - Release Date: 27/10/2004 > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.784 / Virus Database: 530 - Release Date: 27/10/2004 > > > > > > > >

Hi Ray The Costello I have came out fairly late 1890's James his parents are John Costello and Mary Ryan. He then married into the Culhanes at Crooked River, then purchased the Ensay Hotel his son purchased the Royal Hotel in Bairnsdale and another son Kevin wrote many poems on the High Country that have been published, he died as a POW. But I am chasing a Jeremiah Costello and a James that were at Crooked River Grant around the mid 1860's to see if there is a connection, these may have settled over that way. The James late 1890's is from Windgap Co Kilkenny, Seeing he came out when the gold days were at an end, why he ended up at such a remote place as Talbotville suggests that he may have been related to other Kilkenny people there who were the Phelans and Maguires who married in to the Kirks (Quirk) and the Culhanes from Limerick. The Maquire Kirk then relate to very old families like the Grays, Worcestors etc.. from the High Plains. I will try and follow these Costellos up, thanks Ray, where did they come from originally, Limerick or Kilkenny ? Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan" <joanmck@cv.quik.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 8:32 AM Subject: Re: [HC] no messages Hi Kerry, You mentioned Costello in your group, was that a P. Costello? No, not the one that handles all our cash, but one who had property in the Carboor, Whorouly South area in the early years. Cheers Ray. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kerry <kerryb@austarnet.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [HC] no messages > Hi Denise, Bev, Zola, Ray and everyone that I have missed > > I have days where I can contribute and others where its head down and ---up > working on putting all this gobbley gook together. > > I will try and explain what I'm up too, I am putting together a book that is > about a group of Irish from Limerick, parishes being Glin and Shannagolden > they were sent to Botany Bay in 1839 and were the first assisted passengers > (others being convicts) They were given hell in Botany Bay as the squatters > saw then as the beginning of ridding Ireland of is paupers at the squatters > expense. Only three of this group remained in Sydney. The others headed and > settled in areas like the Tumut, Manaro, Yass, Yackandandah, and > Pakenham.(Gipplands before it had a road 1841) Their main purpose was to > work and bring out family members and then they bought out family, so they > started like a pyramid which criss-crosses the High Country. And they stayed > very much as a cohesive group. There are also letters that they have written > back to Ireland sending money etc.. Some of the names are: > Healy, Dempsy, Nash, Nolan, Sheehy, Sheahan, O'Connor, O'Brian, Costello, > Culhane, Enright, Kennelly, Hayes, Griffin, Gallagher, Danahar, McNamara, > O'Connell, Connelly, Donnelly, Shanahan, Fitzgerald. (very Limerick names) > > For example: The Yackandandah family were the James O'Conor (connor) from > Loughill near Glin parish and his wife Johanna Welch, with their four > children they set off from Botany Bay with a dray and made it to Tumut where > he was employed. In 1841 he is squatting at Gooquek Flat, then 1849 appears > in Kiewa Valley. Then in 1853 he is leasing Murramurranbong station near > Yackandandah. Then he is found in Beechworth. His son built the Junction > Hotel (later Blazing Stump) near Wodonga. Their descendants are still around > the North East today. > > So why I have put all this here is because from time to time I will need > support from anyone that has connections with these names. For example Zola > some of their descendants took off to New Zealand during the Goldrush in > Otago. Are you able to access mining registers over there around Pipers > Flat, I'm looking for John Culhane and wife Ellen nee O'Connor (1868) he > returned and settled at Briagolong and James Enright and Bridget > (nee)Hastings, I think he died over there or Bathurst (1872). He had a pub > at Grant near Dargo. > > > Kerry > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zola Ortenburg" <zolaortenburg@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:33 AM > Subject: Re: [HC] no messages > > > Hello Bev and other interested members, > I am also here and thought the list had gone quiet due to a member > complaining about the chat that was not necessarily on family history. In > my opinion part of this wonderful list was (is) the companionship and > helpfulness of the list, everyone appears to encourage when one's searching > begins to appear nigh on impossible. > Keep up the good work everyone. > Zola > Researching : Pearce (Pierce), Barter, Beach (Betsch) Mahoney, Hart, > Woolner, all in the high country area, plus the following Henderson, Mack, > Addison, Freeman, Gracie, Nielson. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bev Walker" <bbwalker@vic.chariot.net.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:11 AM > Subject: RE: [HC] no messages > > > > Hi Denise, > > I too am here, most of the time, plugging away at breaking > > down all the brick walls my ancestors appear to have built > > around themselves. They must have had a lot to hide. > > > > The Americans are the easiest for me, the history has been > > well documented in America but once they came here it has > > been harder to find. > > > > Most of my rellies were in the High Country around Omeo > > and involved in farming and goldmining. They were > > Sloan, Walter. Born USA. > > Forsyth, Helen, borm Scotland, married the above Walter. > > Many of the Forsyths were in the gold business and some > > were lucky. > > Forsyths were also prominent in Bright and all around that > > area. There is another branch of the Sloan family who were > > pioneers in that area, Isaac Sloan. > > > > So anything about Sloan, Forsyth families and their activities > > are of particular interest to me. > > > > I have just found, for the information of Sloan's on the list, > > the place where Grant Sloan died in South Africa in 1909. Thanks > > to Max Dyer, and his constant search for historical events, that > > I now have this info and hopefully follow it through to get a > > death certificate, and burial place. I have a lovely photo of his > > grave but there is not shred of evidence to suggest where it is. > > My dream would be realized if that > > were possible. ANY HELP with the difficult South Africa records > > would be most helpful. > > > > I too miss the friendly chat and banter on the List, also the > > information and the generosity of the Listers. It was always > > nice to get up and see a long list of emails waiting to be read. > > We all have other business to attend to and it is not so easy > > to make the time stretch to get everything in now days. I am > > sure that my advancing years also hold me back!!!!! > > Best wishes to all, Bev. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] > > Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2004 12:29 AM > > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [HC] no messages > > > > > > Richard - the list has been so quiet these past months, I wonder if any of > > the regulars are still members. I've heard of Wendy, Lyn, Ronda, Chris, > > Peter, where is everyone else? With over 200 members as Di says, what > > happened to the other 190? Why not have a roll call and see how many > > listers > > are actually interested in connecting with others? What or who are you > > researching Robert? > > > > My interests in the northeast are the names I posted last week, plus from > > the 1800s > > Carboor Cheese Factory about which I know very very little > > Carboor Hotel (Forest Park Hotel) > > Coaching industry in the northeast and southern NSW > > Mining > > Wooragee, Everton, Beechworth, Woolshed, Chiltern > > and the Upper Murray area. > > > > I am also interested in learning about Americans in the northeast - the > > way > > my research has taken me I now wouldn't be surprised to find family other > > than Hiram, from America, in the area. > > > > Who else is game to list their interests. > > Denise > > > > --- > > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.784 / Virus Database: 530 - Release Date: 27/10/2004 > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.784 / Virus Database: 530 - Release Date: 27/10/2004 > > > > > > > >

Hi Kerry, Can you please tell me the date of the Otago gold rush? Some of my lot went to NZ - but I've never known why. Baaaaaaaa. Regards, Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry" <kerryb@austarnet.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [HC] no messages > Hi Denise, Bev, Zola, Ray and everyone that I have missed > > I have days where I can contribute and others where its head down and ---up > working on putting all this gobbley gook together. > > I will try and explain what I'm up too, I am putting together a book that is > about a group of Irish from Limerick, parishes being Glin and Shannagolden > they were sent to Botany Bay in 1839 and were the first assisted passengers > (others being convicts) They were given hell in Botany Bay as the squatters > saw then as the beginning of ridding Ireland of is paupers at the squatters > expense. Only three of this group remained in Sydney. The others headed and > settled in areas like the Tumut, Manaro, Yass, Yackandandah, and > Pakenham.(Gipplands before it had a road 1841) Their main purpose was to > work and bring out family members and then they bought out family, so they > started like a pyramid which criss-crosses the High Country. And they stayed > very much as a cohesive group. There are also letters that they have written > back to Ireland sending money etc.. Some of the names are: > Healy, Dempsy, Nash, Nolan, Sheehy, Sheahan, O'Connor, O'Brian, Costello, > Culhane, Enright, Kennelly, Hayes, Griffin, Gallagher, Danahar, McNamara, > O'Connell, Connelly, Donnelly, Shanahan, Fitzgerald. (very Limerick names) > > For example: The Yackandandah family were the James O'Conor (connor) from > Loughill near Glin parish and his wife Johanna Welch, with their four > children they set off from Botany Bay with a dray and made it to Tumut where > he was employed. In 1841 he is squatting at Gooquek Flat, then 1849 appears > in Kiewa Valley. Then in 1853 he is leasing Murramurranbong station near > Yackandandah. Then he is found in Beechworth. His son built the Junction > Hotel (later Blazing Stump) near Wodonga. Their descendants are still around > the North East today. > > So why I have put all this here is because from time to time I will need > support from anyone that has connections with these names. For example Zola > some of their descendants took off to New Zealand during the Goldrush in > Otago. Are you able to access mining registers over there around Pipers > Flat, I'm looking for John Culhane and wife Ellen nee O'Connor (1868) he > returned and settled at Briagolong and James Enright and Bridget > (nee)Hastings, I think he died over there or Bathurst (1872). He had a pub > at Grant near Dargo. > > > Kerry > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zola Ortenburg" <zolaortenburg@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:33 AM > Subject: Re: [HC] no messages > > > Hello Bev and other interested members, > I am also here and thought the list had gone quiet due to a member > complaining about the chat that was not necessarily on family history. In > my opinion part of this wonderful list was (is) the companionship and > helpfulness of the list, everyone appears to encourage when one's searching > begins to appear nigh on impossible. > Keep up the good work everyone. > Zola > Researching : Pearce (Pierce), Barter, Beach (Betsch) Mahoney, Hart, > Woolner, all in the high country area, plus the following Henderson, Mack, > Addison, Freeman, Gracie, Nielson. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bev Walker" <bbwalker@vic.chariot.net.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:11 AM > Subject: RE: [HC] no messages > > > > Hi Denise, > > I too am here, most of the time, plugging away at breaking > > down all the brick walls my ancestors appear to have built > > around themselves. They must have had a lot to hide. > > > > The Americans are the easiest for me, the history has been > > well documented in America but once they came here it has > > been harder to find. > > > > Most of my rellies were in the High Country around Omeo > > and involved in farming and goldmining. They were > > Sloan, Walter. Born USA. > > Forsyth, Helen, borm Scotland, married the above Walter. > > Many of the Forsyths were in the gold business and some > > were lucky. > > Forsyths were also prominent in Bright and all around that > > area. There is another branch of the Sloan family who were > > pioneers in that area, Isaac Sloan. > > > > So anything about Sloan, Forsyth families and their activities > > are of particular interest to me. > > > > I have just found, for the information of Sloan's on the list, > > the place where Grant Sloan died in South Africa in 1909. Thanks > > to Max Dyer, and his constant search for historical events, that > > I now have this info and hopefully follow it through to get a > > death certificate, and burial place. I have a lovely photo of his > > grave but there is not shred of evidence to suggest where it is. > > My dream would be realized if that > > were possible. ANY HELP with the difficult South Africa records > > would be most helpful. > > > > I too miss the friendly chat and banter on the List, also the > > information and the generosity of the Listers. It was always > > nice to get up and see a long list of emails waiting to be read. > > We all have other business to attend to and it is not so easy > > to make the time stretch to get everything in now days. I am > > sure that my advancing years also hold me back!!!!! > > Best wishes to all, Bev. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] > > Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2004 12:29 AM > > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [HC] no messages > > > > > > Richard - the list has been so quiet these past months, I wonder if any of > > the regulars are still members. I've heard of Wendy, Lyn, Ronda, Chris, > > Peter, where is everyone else? With over 200 members as Di says, what > > happened to the other 190? Why not have a roll call and see how many > > listers > > are actually interested in connecting with others? What or who are you > > researching Robert? > > > > My interests in the northeast are the names I posted last week, plus from > > the 1800s > > Carboor Cheese Factory about which I know very very little > > Carboor Hotel (Forest Park Hotel) > > Coaching industry in the northeast and southern NSW > > Mining > > Wooragee, Everton, Beechworth, Woolshed, Chiltern > > and the Upper Murray area. > > > > I am also interested in learning about Americans in the northeast - the > > way > > my research has taken me I now wouldn't be surprised to find family other > > than Hiram, from America, in the area. > > > > Who else is game to list their interests. > > Denise > > > > --- > > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.784 / Virus Database: 530 - Release Date: 27/10/2004 > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.784 / Virus Database: 530 - Release Date: 27/10/2004 > > > > > > >