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    1. Re: [HC] no messages
    2. Zola Ortenburg
    3. Hello Ray, My Hart is a bit of a mystery, William born about 1823, presumably England, married Ellen Mahoney (Mahaney) in London between 1818 and 1823, they had 3 children, Emily born July 5th 1843, Mary Elizabeth born August 27 1845 & Ellen born August 24 1848. Emily died in 1846, I have St James C of E, Melbourne for both her birth and death. Ellen was baptised at St Stephens, C of E Portland, I think she had a child William Hart in 1882 at Eastern Hill, can find no further info on her. Mary Elizabeth, my g grandmother was also baptised at St Stephens, Portland, she married John Pierce (Pearce) in Tarrawingee on October 18th 1860, she died in Wangaratta on September 24th 1919. Any further info would be great. John & Mary went on the have Emily abt 1863, died at Oxley in 1864, Ellen 1863 - no further info, William born 1865 at Tarrawingee - died 1930 at Moyu, Mary Emily born Tarrawingee in 1867 - died Melbourne 1926, Alice Elizabeth born Tarrawingee August 25 1869, died Melbourne 1942, John born December 30 1872 - no further info, Thomas Hart Pierce born Tarrawingee 1875, died at Corowa in 1919 and an unnamed male born at Tarrawingee in 1872. Sorry this is so long but you never know someone out there may have a connection. Regards, Zola ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan" <joanmck@cv.quik.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [HC] no messages > Hi Zola, > Which Hart and from where? Oxley, King Valley. > Cheers Ray. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Zola Ortenburg <zolaortenburg@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:33 AM > Subject: Re: [HC] no messages > > >> Hello Bev and other interested members, >> I am also here and thought the list had gone quiet due to a member >> complaining about the chat that was not necessarily on family history. >> In >> my opinion part of this wonderful list was (is) the companionship and >> helpfulness of the list, everyone appears to encourage when one's > searching >> begins to appear nigh on impossible. >> Keep up the good work everyone. >> Zola >> Researching : Pearce (Pierce), Barter, Beach (Betsch) Mahoney, Hart, >> Woolner, all in the high country area, plus the following Henderson, >> Mack, >> Addison, Freeman, Gracie, Nielson. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bev Walker" <bbwalker@vic.chariot.net.au> >> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:11 AM >> Subject: RE: [HC] no messages >> >> >> > Hi Denise, >> > I too am here, most of the time, plugging away at breaking >> > down all the brick walls my ancestors appear to have built >> > around themselves. They must have had a lot to hide. >> > >> > The Americans are the easiest for me, the history has been >> > well documented in America but once they came here it has >> > been harder to find. >> > >> > Most of my rellies were in the High Country around Omeo >> > and involved in farming and goldmining. They were >> > Sloan, Walter. Born USA. >> > Forsyth, Helen, borm Scotland, married the above Walter. >> > Many of the Forsyths were in the gold business and some >> > were lucky. >> > Forsyths were also prominent in Bright and all around that >> > area. There is another branch of the Sloan family who were >> > pioneers in that area, Isaac Sloan. >> > >> > So anything about Sloan, Forsyth families and their activities >> > are of particular interest to me. >> > >> > I have just found, for the information of Sloan's on the list, >> > the place where Grant Sloan died in South Africa in 1909. Thanks >> > to Max Dyer, and his constant search for historical events, that >> > I now have this info and hopefully follow it through to get a >> > death certificate, and burial place. I have a lovely photo of his >> > grave but there is not shred of evidence to suggest where it is. >> > My dream would be realized if that >> > were possible. ANY HELP with the difficult South Africa records >> > would be most helpful. >> > >> > I too miss the friendly chat and banter on the List, also the >> > information and the generosity of the Listers. It was always >> > nice to get up and see a long list of emails waiting to be read. >> > We all have other business to attend to and it is not so easy >> > to make the time stretch to get everything in now days. I am >> > sure that my advancing years also hold me back!!!!! >> > Best wishes to all, Bev. >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] >> > Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2004 12:29 AM >> > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com >> > Subject: Re: [HC] no messages >> > >> > >> > Richard - the list has been so quiet these past months, I wonder if any > of >> > the regulars are still members. I've heard of Wendy, Lyn, Ronda, Chris, >> > Peter, where is everyone else? With over 200 members as Di says, >> > what >> > happened to the other 190? Why not have a roll call and see how many >> > listers >> > are actually interested in connecting with others? What or who are you >> > researching Robert? >> > >> > My interests in the northeast are the names I posted last week, plus > from >> > the 1800s >> > Carboor Cheese Factory about which I know very very little >> > Carboor Hotel (Forest Park Hotel) >> > Coaching industry in the northeast and southern NSW >> > Mining >> > Wooragee, Everton, Beechworth, Woolshed, Chiltern >> > and the Upper Murray area. >> > >> > I am also interested in learning about Americans in the northeast - >> > the >> > way >> > my research has taken me I now wouldn't be surprised to find family > other >> > than Hiram, from America, in the area. >> > >> > Who else is game to list their interests. >> > Denise >> > >> > --- >> > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >> > Version: 6.0.784 / Virus Database: 530 - Release Date: 27/10/2004 >> > >> > --- >> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >> > Version: 6.0.784 / Virus Database: 530 - Release Date: 27/10/2004 >> > >> > >> >> >

    11/11/2004 03:07:54
    1. Re: [HC] no messages
    2. Joan
    3. Hi Zola, At this time I can't see a connection, my HART'S were Robert Hart, M Christina McINNES, 1850 children were Mary-Anne, a female B1854 died (un-named) 1854, 4 days, Ellen Mathilda, William. Robert Hart was a butcher and had his butchery in King Street,Cnr Green Street Oxley, he died at 36 years of age. Mary-Anne had an illigitimate daughter born 1875 B Moyhu D Moyhu 2 months, Mary-Anne D Buffalo 1875. I have no other info on other children. Christina (wife) remarried Thomas CROWTHER from Ireland and had 2 sons Robert 1877, Edward 1879. Cheers Ray. ----- Original Message ----- From: Zola Ortenburg <zolaortenburg@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [HC] no messages > Hello Ray, > My Hart is a bit of a mystery, William born about 1823, presumably England, > married Ellen Mahoney (Mahaney) in London between 1818 and 1823, they had 3 > children, Emily born July 5th 1843, Mary Elizabeth born August 27 1845 & > Ellen born August 24 1848. > > Emily died in 1846, I have St James C of E, Melbourne for both her birth and > death. > > Ellen was baptised at St Stephens, C of E Portland, I think she had a child > William Hart in 1882 at Eastern Hill, can find no further info on her. > > Mary Elizabeth, my g grandmother was also baptised at St Stephens, Portland, > she married John Pierce (Pearce) in Tarrawingee on October 18th 1860, she > died in Wangaratta on September 24th 1919. Any further info would be great. > John & Mary went on the have Emily abt 1863, died at Oxley in 1864, Ellen > 1863 - no further info, William born 1865 at Tarrawingee - died 1930 at > Moyu, Mary Emily born Tarrawingee in 1867 - died Melbourne 1926, Alice > Elizabeth born Tarrawingee August 25 1869, died Melbourne 1942, John born > December 30 1872 - no further info, Thomas Hart Pierce born Tarrawingee > 1875, died at Corowa in 1919 and an unnamed male born at Tarrawingee in > 1872. Sorry this is so long but you never know someone out there may have a > connection. > Regards, Zola > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joan" <joanmck@cv.quik.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 4:59 PM > Subject: Re: [HC] no messages > > > > Hi Zola, > > Which Hart and from where? Oxley, King Valley. > > Cheers Ray. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Zola Ortenburg <zolaortenburg@bigpond.com> > > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:33 AM > > Subject: Re: [HC] no messages > > > > > >> Hello Bev and other interested members, > >> I am also here and thought the list had gone quiet due to a member > >> complaining about the chat that was not necessarily on family history. > >> In > >> my opinion part of this wonderful list was (is) the companionship and > >> helpfulness of the list, everyone appears to encourage when one's > > searching > >> begins to appear nigh on impossible. > >> Keep up the good work everyone. > >> Zola > >> Researching : Pearce (Pierce), Barter, Beach (Betsch) Mahoney, Hart, > >> Woolner, all in the high country area, plus the following Henderson, > >> Mack, > >> Addison, Freeman, Gracie, Nielson. > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Bev Walker" <bbwalker@vic.chariot.net.au> > >> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:11 AM > >> Subject: RE: [HC] no messages > >> > >> > >> > Hi Denise, > >> > I too am here, most of the time, plugging away at breaking > >> > down all the brick walls my ancestors appear to have built > >> > around themselves. They must have had a lot to hide. > >> > > >> > The Americans are the easiest for me, the history has been > >> > well documented in America but once they came here it has > >> > been harder to find. > >> > > >> > Most of my rellies were in the High Country around Omeo > >> > and involved in farming and goldmining. They were > >> > Sloan, Walter. Born USA. > >> > Forsyth, Helen, borm Scotland, married the above Walter. > >> > Many of the Forsyths were in the gold business and some > >> > were lucky. > >> > Forsyths were also prominent in Bright and all around that > >> > area. There is another branch of the Sloan family who were > >> > pioneers in that area, Isaac Sloan. > >> > > >> > So anything about Sloan, Forsyth families and their activities > >> > are of particular interest to me. > >> > > >> > I have just found, for the information of Sloan's on the list, > >> > the place where Grant Sloan died in South Africa in 1909. Thanks > >> > to Max Dyer, and his constant search for historical events, that > >> > I now have this info and hopefully follow it through to get a > >> > death certificate, and burial place. I have a lovely photo of his > >> > grave but there is not shred of evidence to suggest where it is. > >> > My dream would be realized if that > >> > were possible. ANY HELP with the difficult South Africa records > >> > would be most helpful. > >> > > >> > I too miss the friendly chat and banter on the List, also the > >> > information and the generosity of the Listers. It was always > >> > nice to get up and see a long list of emails waiting to be read. > >> > We all have other business to attend to and it is not so easy > >> > to make the time stretch to get everything in now days. I am > >> > sure that my advancing years also hold me back!!!!! > >> > Best wishes to all, Bev. > >> > > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] > >> > Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2004 12:29 AM > >> > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > >> > Subject: Re: [HC] no messages > >> > > >> > > >> > Richard - the list has been so quiet these past months, I wonder if any > > of > >> > the regulars are still members. I've heard of Wendy, Lyn, Ronda, Chris, > >> > Peter, where is everyone else? With over 200 members as Di says, > >> > what > >> > happened to the other 190? Why not have a roll call and see how many > >> > listers > >> > are actually interested in connecting with others? What or who are you > >> > researching Robert? > >> > > >> > My interests in the northeast are the names I posted last week, plus > > from > >> > the 1800s > >> > Carboor Cheese Factory about which I know very very little > >> > Carboor Hotel (Forest Park Hotel) > >> > Coaching industry in the northeast and southern NSW > >> > Mining > >> > Wooragee, Everton, Beechworth, Woolshed, Chiltern > >> > and the Upper Murray area. > >> > > >> > I am also interested in learning about Americans in the northeast - > >> > the > >> > way > >> > my research has taken me I now wouldn't be surprised to find family > > other > >> > than Hiram, from America, in the area. > >> > > >> > Who else is game to list their interests. > >> > Denise > >> > > >> > --- > >> > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > >> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > >> > Version: 6.0.784 / Virus Database: 530 - Release Date: 27/10/2004 > >> > > >> > --- > >> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > >> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > >> > Version: 6.0.784 / Virus Database: 530 - Release Date: 27/10/2004 > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > >

    11/12/2004 03:01:53