Dear Marina, There is just a chance that your missing Catherine Murphy is a death registration in 1963 which I have located on the both the Victorian Pioneer index and the Australian Vital Records. It states that she was aged 28 (this would be right if she was 22 in 1857) and that the parents were unknown (very likely if her husband was away that nobody would know). The registration is 1863/9104. Birthplace is shown as Gloucester - I realise that this is not a perfect match - but it is close. Bristol is very near to both the town and county of Gloucester. I suggest you obtain the death certificate - it should show the childrens' names at least and probably her husband as well as some other details if you are really lucky. You can do this via the Internet and actually print it 'on the spot'. It will cost you around A$17.50 (unless it has changed in the past few months). I think the web site is http://online.justice.vic.gov.au/ I think is a hard site to find your way around - you need to get into the section headed 'Transactions' and then into the 'Transactions List'. Kind regards and good luck, Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marina & Bruce Borland" <matilda@snap.net.nz> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Josephus and Catherine Murphy-Beechworth Area > Hello Zola, > > Nice to hear from you. Yes, positive Catherine died in Australia. Yes, every > state in Australia has been searched, except Northern Territory, not only > for Catherine , but for Henry and Richard as well. I have a "never give up" > attitude, thus perseverence may prevail, one day. > I understand that the High Country List is really good. Should have listed > ages ago, but I work for a genealogy society here in NZ as a volunteer, > which takes up a great amount of my time, and I also like to help others, > doing look ups for BDM's etc, on other mailing lists I participate in. All > time consuming but I enjoy the contact with others, finding it rewarding. > Thanks for you response, Zola. Appreciated. > > Regards, > > Marina > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zola Ortenburg" <zolaortenburg@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 3:52 PM > Subject: Re: [HC] Josephus and Catherine Murphy-Beechworth Area > > > > Hello Marina, > > Welcome, are you sure she died. I had a look to see if she remarried in > > Victoria, but couldn't see anything. Have you searched the New South > > Wales records? It is very frustrating to get to a point - where people > > just disappear, I can assure you you are not alone. Someone on this > > wonderful list may be able to assist you. Good luck and regards, Zola > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Marina & Bruce Borland" <matilda@snap.net.nz> > > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 7:48 AM > > Subject: [HC] Josephus and Catherine Murphy-Beechworth Area > > > > > >> Hello to Listers from New Zealand, > >> > >> New to your list and are seeking assistance please. > >> > >> My greatgrandfather was JOSEPHUS MURPHY, from Belfast, Northern Ireland. > >> In June, 1853, he immigrated to Melbourne, together with it seems two > >> brothers, HENRY and RICHARD MURPHY( of the latter two nothing to date has > >> been found ). Josephus went to the goldfields of the Beechworth region, > >> where he apparently held a gold claim. > >> > >> In July, 1857, at Oven, he married a CATHERINE ARNOLD, from Bristol, > >> England. Catherine was aged 22 at this time. Her parents were Luke and > >> Sarah Arnold. > >> > >> They seemed to have moved around the general Beechworth area, the first > >> child, John Malcolm, was born at Woolshed in 1857; second child, Harriet, > >> born Buckland in 1859( died in infancy); third child, Rupert, born at > >> Morses Creek in 1861; and the fourth child, Josephus, in Oven in 1863 > >> (died in fancy). I have all marriage and birth information for this > >> family. > >> > >> Josephus came to New Zealand, exact date unknown. In March,1865, the two > >> surviving children came to Otago, New Zealand, aboard the ship "Hero", > >> seemingly unaccompanied by a parent. Catherine was not with them. > >> It is thought that Catherine may have died around 1863-1865, in the > >> Beechworth region. Nothing has been found of her death despite numerous > >> searches being made. both in Australia and New Zealand. Her death may > >> never have been registered - a problem. - thus she may never be located. > >> > >> A CD for Beechworth has been searched without success. > >> > >> Records held at the Burke Museum in Beechworth are quite extensive. Does > >> anyone on this list have access to this museum's, public records, who > >> would be kind enough to do a look up for me? Of particular interest are > >> mining claim register records, etc. I also know that the museum has > >> microfiche for, "The Ovens & Murray Advertiser", 1855-1978, and "The > >> Constitution & Ovens Mining Intelligence", microfiche covers 1856-57. > >> Does anyone have access to these old newspapers? A CD for Beechworth has > >> been searched without > >> > >> Any information, and/or assistance, with locating data on this family > >> would be so greatly appreciated. Thank you. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Marina in New Zealand > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > >