Wendy, There was some discussion on internments on the Aust-German board (I think) early in the year, and I made reference to a very useful book on the subject called "Enemy Aliens" which I had previously consulted; my recollection is that as it was a federal matter most east coast detainees were sent to Holsworthy. If the matter is not urgent I can grab the book when I am next at the national Library (probably not till after Xmas) and check for anything you require. Brian Rhynehart. Canberra. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy" <wendyfensom@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 9:16 PM Subject: [HC] Internment during WW! > Can anyone please tell me where suspected German spies were interned during WW! in Victoria? And is it possible to check the records online? > thanks, > Wendy > > >

Hi Brian, It would be great if you could do a look-up for me - I can't find the person I want on the NAA but may not be looking in the right place. The man in question was called Charles NEWMAN but his real name (I think) was Joseph Gustave or possibly Christof Johann NIEMANN. He changed his name not long after he arrived here (around 1880 I believe) and was certainly known as Charles NEWMAN from the time of his marriage (1894) onwards. Allegedly he was interned in 1917 after a German mine laid by the raider 'Wolf' was hit by a ship 'Cumberland' off Gabo island, and fully exonerated from all suspicion in 1920. He was living in coastal Victoria at that time. Any information would be very helpful. Kind regards and seasons greetings, Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Rhynehart" <brianr@cyberone.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 1:12 AM Subject: Re: [HC] Internment during WW! > Wendy, > > There was some discussion on internments on the Aust-German board (I think) > early in the year, and I made reference to a very useful book on the subject > called "Enemy Aliens" which I had previously consulted; my recollection is > that as it was a federal matter most east coast detainees were sent to > Holsworthy. > If the matter is not urgent I can grab the book when I am next at the > national Library (probably not till after Xmas) and check for anything you > require. > > Brian Rhynehart. > Canberra. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wendy" <wendyfensom@optusnet.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 9:16 PM > Subject: [HC] Internment during WW! > > > > Can anyone please tell me where suspected German spies were interned > during WW! in Victoria? And is it possible to check the records online? > > thanks, > > Wendy > > > > > > >

Wendy, I had a good day on Wednesday at the Archives. With the assistance of a very helpful research assistant we found two items which I believe are relevant to your search. Item 1 SS Cumberland striking a mine on 6/7/17 off Gabo; beaching of, near Gabo; salvage of; and subsequent sinking; Court of Inquiry held etc. Location: Melbourne. Item 2 Charles Newman (Neuman) [2.00 cms] {this is a big file!} Location: Melbourne. For full copies it is indicated that both files will be treated as a standard item which costs about $25 I think. I will send you the file details off list with some hints for their site. Brian. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy" <wendyfensom@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [HC] Internment during WW! > Hi Brian, > > It would be great if you could do a look-up for me - I can't find the person > I want on the NAA but may not be looking in the right place. > > The man in question was called Charles NEWMAN but his real name (I think) > was Joseph Gustave or possibly Christof Johann NIEMANN. > He changed his name not long after he arrived here (around 1880 I believe) > and was certainly known as Charles NEWMAN from the time of his marriage > (1894) onwards. Allegedly he was interned in 1917 after a German mine laid > by the raider 'Wolf' was hit by a ship 'Cumberland' off Gabo island, and > fully exonerated from all suspicion in 1920. He was living in coastal > Victoria at that time. > > Any information would be very helpful. > Kind regards and seasons greetings, > Wendy