I have it thanks Anne I guess Gruber 's place must be no longer - but I find it strange that it wasn't mentioned in the fire write up. d ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hanson" <ahanson8@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 11:16 AM Subject: RE: [HC] Empire Hotel > Denise, > > There is a one page article on the Fire of 1867 in the book 'Background to > Beechworth' on page 51 - let me know if you have the book. > > Cheers > > Anne > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] > Sent: Wednesday, 4 January 2006 12:01 PM > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HC] Empire Hotel > > > meaning then that Gruber's stone cottage in 1866 has gone! > > I must check the 67 papers to see if any > mention.......................anyone know the date of the fire? > > See what this list does? Fantastic. > > Thanks Anne > Denise > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anne Hanson" <ahanson8@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:56 AM > Subject: RE: [HC] Empire Hotel > > >> Denise, >> >> As far as I am aware the Post Office has been on its current site since >> 1859 >> and guess what - the original Empire Hotel was where the Beechworth >> Emporium >> is today that is beside the newsagents and is diagonally opposite the >> Bakery. The walking guide I talked about earlier this morning says - >> Beechworth Emporium - first site of the Empire Hotel, also previously >> known >> as the Post Office Hotel and the Central Hotel. The great fire of 1867 is >> thought to have begun here. All buildings on this side (meaning >> Newsagency >> side) of Camp Street were destroyed. >> >> Cheers >> >> Anne >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] >> Sent: Wednesday, 4 January 2006 11:10 AM >> To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [HC] Empire Hotel >> >> >> It just so happens after posting the idea of a map, right now I am >> trying >> to place an office in Camp Street. >> >> The year is 1859 and the owner of the building writes that it is two >> doors >> south of the Empire Hotel. >> >> In 1861 he writes that he is two doors south of the Empire Hotel and near >> the Post Office. >> >> Has the Empire always been on the corner of High and Camp? I was happy >> to >> place the building from the 1859 entry but now wonder about 1861 - where >> was >> the Post Office then? >> >> I thought PP may at least be able to assist with the Empire Hotel query. >> regards >> Denise >> >

and here is the fire extract I did in 2003 - Anne note where the Post Office moved to (g). For Mary and Di. Snippets as I see them. I can't relay the whole article/s on the fire as it occupies several pages. I originally said I would type the article but as I went thru the paper I found it was THE story of the day. Too much to do here. But ifyou want to read yourself it is in the Ovens and Murray Advertiser for March 26th. The glow was seen from Chiltern and Wangaratta and bits of paper ended up in Reid Creek. Must have been one heck of a show. THE BURNING OF THE BEECHWORTH CEMETERY RECORDS. The total destruction of the Beechworth Cemetery records which occurred through the burning of Mr. Ingram's shop on Saturday evening last, (Di this would have been 23rd Marc 67.)if not promptly remedied as far as possible may hereafter prove highly detrimental to the interests of many persons whose relatives have been interred in that place of sepulture. We think it would be advisable for all interested to take steps to refurnish these archives at least so far as practicable. - The Post Office moved to Crawford's Buildings in Ford Street - hope they paid rent. - The fire alarm rang about 11.15 pm. The fire had broken out in a corner of the stables attached to the Empire Hotel, Camp Street. This stable was the one nearest to and almost adjoining the Bank of Australiasia. All horses removed from stables except for one poor animal which seems to have been overlooked. - Mr. Little of the Nine Mile line of coaches managed to save all that belonged to him that was in the stable and yard. The pigs got out safely. While the fire was being fought between the stable and the Bank it spread rapidly in a southerly direction and the hotel itself was soon in a blaze. The wind altho not strong was sufficient to fan the flames. The Fire Brigade arrives but their assistance was of no use as there was no supply of water. Although the tank on the hill was it apears ful of water thrugh some defect in one of the hydrants it was not available at the lower end of the town. It was evident the hotel was not to be saved so the attentions were directed elsewhere. Youngs book store next door was soon also enveloped in flames altho the brick walls resisted for some time. This allowed Mr. Young with the help of a few personal friends to remove a great portion of his stock in trade but his furniture was nearly all destoryed. Some of the female members of his family were so alarmed that they were perfectly incapable of any action. In a very short time the shop was completely destroyed and only two brick walls left standing.. Within a quarter hour of the fire breaking out, Mr. Ingram's stationer's shop next to Mr. Young's caught fire. Very little could be removed from this shop a the fierceness of the flames rendered it impossible to get near the building, built of wood. All the business books of Mr. Ingram's were unfortunately burnt together with the records of teh Cemetery of which he was secretary. With the fire raging thru three premises, INgrams the hotel and Youngs the heat was so intense it was almost impossible to stand on the opposite sid of the street. The verandahs across the street at one time were burning and smoking. They were soonpulled down. Should these shops have caught fire the wind would have swept the flames right up Ford Street through the wood buildings an a major disaster would have hit Beechworth. By now the fire had spread to the shop occupied by Mr. Dunn the tailor, next to the Empire. and also the offices occupied by Mr. Martin solicitor behind which was a large room at one time used as a gym. Fears the fire would not stop until it reached the corner of HIgh St. Next went the Chinese store. They managed to get a good deal of their stock out. The residence of Mr. Townsend the dentist was next. Every attempt made to save this building. It was at this point the fire was halted as Mr. Townsends roof was torn down, and damp blankets placed over the remainder. To stop the fire any further just in case it did destroy Mr. Townsends the properties of Mr. Hoch the butcher and the large room used for holding meetings of the German Rifle Association were pulled down. "It may therefore be said that not one of the houses from the cnr of Camp and Ford Sts to the orner of Camp and High escaped without some injury" All this was in the easterly direction but now for the opposite direction. The orchard attached to the Post Office was on fire almost as soon as the Empire HOtel. Mr Byrchall the postmaster had taken every precaution for saving the letters and newspapers and had them all in the passage of his private residence ready for removal upon a constable appearing to take charge of them. They were eventually removed. Mr. Byrchall in his attempts to save the correspondence lost all his private property. One of the drapers hops in Ford St started to catch, but it was immediately extinguished. All that remianed of the Empire and some of the buildings was a few chimney stacks "alone in their glory". On Monday things were still smoking. The loss amounted to voer £10,000. From YOungs to the Chinese store the property was owned by a Mr. W.C. Jones-Parry who had practised as a barrister in Beechworth but was then in England. Many people lost their possessions in these buildings, for example Mr.Ingram's manager lost all his furntiure and clothes of his family. The Groom at the stables lost everything and his wife was about a week after her "acccouchement" had to be carried out. Mr. Martin the solictor lost most of his law books. Staff tenants and owners and house guests (yes people just visiting others) lost their possessions. The Post Office mail ws deposted for safety in the Bank of NSW and then removed to the temporary office at Crawfords Buildings in Ford St. Mmr. George Garrod a waiter at the Empire HOtel lost all his possessions, just as he had done at the burning of the Star HOtel in Chiltern only 2 years earlier. Value of property destroyed - Mr. Ingram £2000 Mr YOung 3000 Mr. Newson £1200 Mr. Byrchall £300 Mr. Dunn £100 Mr Martin £50 Mr. Sheppard £100 Chinese store £50 Mr. Townsend £50 McLeod £50 THE BEECHWORTH CEMETERY As we remarked in our report of the disastrous fire that occurred in Camp St on the night of Saturday last, the records connected with the above Cemetery were utterly destroyed. This is avery serious matter, for although it is true that the last resting places of many are distinctly marked by monuments it is unquestionably a fact that the names of the great majority of those interred in the Cemetery can only be traced by its books. Those books are like the names of the individuals they contained amongst the tings of the past. A good deal may be done however to alleviate the loss if immediate action be taken. Let all those who have friends or relatives interred in teh groudn gather up names and dates of burial and let the Secretary to the Trustees be required to keep a book always available in which these details may be entered. By this means a great amount of the lost information may be recovered.Whilst upon this subject we must be allowed to express our asonishment at the careless manner in which teh books alluded to were stored. Surely a corner might have been found in some iron safe for their deposit even if the high rates charged for sepulture did not afford sufficient income to purchase so necessary an article for their custody. We wil hope that in future the Cemtery records will be placed beyond the reach of danger from fire. = An inquest was held into the fire - Mr. INgram moved his business into a shop at the Star Theatre buildings Ford St. opposite Crawford Buildings. J Young was selling from the Star Theatre. -- Hope this helps. Denise A Fire Relief Fund was set up.

This is something I extract in 2004 - The town of B/worth grows - Tour of inspection shows - > New buildings, others projected, old stores being altered and improved > and population on the increase. C/England school house approaching > completion, Attached parsonage finished and inhabited by Rev Mr. > Bennett and family. > > Turning into Church Street and up opposite the hospital Mr. Keefer > Barrister, erects a substantial log hut after the fashion of his > Canadian forefathers - LIttle Canada. > Down to Loch and we have 3 or 4 handsome brick cottages which have > astonished locals who haven't been down in the neglected area of town > for some months. Other cottages of less permanent material popping up > too in Loch. Between Last andLoch and William and Camp a colony of > smaller dwellings and workshops. IN Camp we have Hall and Carpenter > who have opened a small store - portraits by the collodion process and > sewing by machine. Next door you see the Ovens Hardware - a real > novelty. The watch trade has doubled (leaving out thefts) Mr. Turner > from the Woolshed and Mr. Goodman (newcomer to town) both opened > watchmaker and jewellers' shops in Camp. if you look on the cnr of > High, that's Mr. Turners. > We now pop over to Ford Street - The Bank of Australia appears in Ford > Street > back down to High (we'll just cut through the block next to the > Commercial here for short cut) > -and of the bombardian origin we have the pawnshop by Mr. Deutschmann > in High St. Also in this street you see Nonden and Frank (who left > the Woolshed) general storekeepers. Also here Mr. Hart has his > clothing store. > > Another candidate for public favor is Denise and Pat's Mr. Munchhausen > for clothes lines - we just passed it in Camp St. > > In High St Mr. Gimison's new and spacious premises are opened, only we > can't see what why he opened it. > > We turn head up to Ford St. -Schreier King and Co. have opened Mr. > Hathorne's old premises as toacconists. Higher up Ford St, on what > was formerly Mr. Campbell's office but of late a plot of land, up > popped two stores, one for Mr. S. Hall the hairdresser who formerly > shaved not the ladies but the gentlemen, right next to the Union > HOtel. > > We come across another vacant lot between the Union and the saddlers, > and blow me down, two more stores being erected. The town is to have > two new public houses, one in Camp and one in Ford. In Ford Mr. > Roberson has convereted Mackay Miller and Mackay's old store into just > what we need, another Hotel. Will open soon under the strange name > for Mr. Robertson, of "Macs". round the block again, and into Camp > where Mr. TAnner is about to open a HUGE house "The Empire". > (eventually to be taken over by PP's mob). That's due for completion > beginning of July. Added to the medical profession in town is Dr. Lee > who was formerly on the 'Shed. > > Well the leather has worn out with our wanderings...........just leave > the tour guide a tip as you pass by. > - >

meaning then that Gruber's stone cottage in 1866 has gone! I must check the 67 papers to see if any mention.......................anyone know the date of the fire? See what this list does? Fantastic. Thanks Anne Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hanson" <ahanson8@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:56 AM Subject: RE: [HC] Empire Hotel > Denise, > > As far as I am aware the Post Office has been on its current site since > 1859 > and guess what - the original Empire Hotel was where the Beechworth > Emporium > is today that is beside the newsagents and is diagonally opposite the > Bakery. The walking guide I talked about earlier this morning says - > Beechworth Emporium - first site of the Empire Hotel, also previously > known > as the Post Office Hotel and the Central Hotel. The great fire of 1867 is > thought to have begun here. All buildings on this side (meaning Newsagency > side) of Camp Street were destroyed. > > Cheers > > Anne > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] > Sent: Wednesday, 4 January 2006 11:10 AM > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HC] Empire Hotel > > > It just so happens after posting the idea of a map, right now I am > trying > to place an office in Camp Street. > > The year is 1859 and the owner of the building writes that it is two doors > south of the Empire Hotel. > > In 1861 he writes that he is two doors south of the Empire Hotel and near > the Post Office. > > Has the Empire always been on the corner of High and Camp? I was happy to > place the building from the 1859 entry but now wonder about 1861 - where > was > the Post Office then? > > I thought PP may at least be able to assist with the Empire Hotel query. > regards > Denise >

Is this the home of the Dr on the corner of Loch and Camp? I think over time it was the home for several DRs and the room which juts out to the Camp St side was his 'rooms'. The present owner told me this 9 months ago. The house has always intrigued me Anne. regards Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hanson" <ahanson8@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:55 AM Subject: RE: [HC] Idea > Denise, > > I should have added that the publication is glossy and has pictures of all > the buildings mentioned in the walk. And it does have one private home - > that is 'Balgownie' - Dr. Skinner's House. I am sure it (the guide) is > available from the Beechworth Visitor Information Centre - their free call > telephone number is 1300 366 321. > > Cheers > > Anne > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] > Sent: Wednesday, 4 January 2006 9:23 AM > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HC] Idea > > > Morning Anne, > Think I've seen this, I was more inclined to include private homes as > well. > > Never mind, early morning dreaming. > regards > Denise > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anne Hanson" <ahanson8@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 8:16 AM > Subject: RE: [HC] Idea > > >> Denise, >> >> You'll be thrilled to know that it has already been done (well in a >> manner) - it's called Beechworth Echoes of History Follow the Pioneers - >> A >> self guided walking tour of the Central Business District of Historic >> Beechworth, Victoria and is available from the Beechworth Visitor >> Information Centre. The guide includes streets such as Camp, Church, Loch >> and Ford Streets and includes buildings such as Crawford & Connolly >> Coaches >> shop front, Dodd's leather merchant, J Kyle builder, Bray's Photographic >> Studio etc. >> >> Anne >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] >> Sent: Wednesday, 4 January 2006 9:08 AM >> To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [HC] Idea >> >> >> I am wondering if anyone has ever thought of doing a historical map of >> Beechworth (at least as far as we on the list are concerned) as to where >> things were (shops/business names etc) and where people lived. >> Contributions from the listers could make this quite interesting. For >> example I know exactly where two Undertakers were from descriptions in >> advertisements. >> >> Just a thought. >> >> Ha! I'm not offering. Someone with computer skills needed >> >> D >> >

I agree burning and keeping a copy in a safe place is great, but what happens if the friend is just down the road and in the same position as you, their house goes up in smoke also. As an example - I have been with my daughter when smoke came streaming up the valley, we left the house with 3 children, 2 dogs, water, woollen blankets and little else and just managed to get out of her road (track) which was already blocked by fire trucks, the computer was still running forwarding files. Zola ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [HC] Safe records (Chat) > More than happy to help if anyone wants to back up, I would merely burn to > Cd and hold. > Another option is to give a Cd you have burnt yourself to a friend or > family offsite. > Denise > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zola Ortenburg" <zolaortenburg@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 9:03 AM > Subject: [HC] Safe records (Chat) > > >> One of my daughters lives in the fire prone Dandenong's and on days of >> Total Fire Ban she forwards her business files to my email, hence having >> a complete backup. >> Because some on this list are also fire prone I was wondering if we could >> set up a system whereby they forward their Family Tree to one person, >> i.e. everyone has a predetermined receiver of this valuable information >> and no one has more than one persons file. If the sender were to loose >> their information it can be recovered via forwarding it to the lister >> once they are in a position to receive it back. Obviously the receiver >> does not open the file, they act like a bank. >> Any thoughts, regards, Zola >

Great Idea. I'm willing to help out also. From Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zola Ortenburg" <zolaortenburg@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:03 AM Subject: [HC] Safe records (Chat) > One of my daughters lives in the fire prone Dandenong's and on days of Total Fire Ban she forwards her business files to my email, hence having a complete backup. > Because some on this list are also fire prone I was wondering if we could set up a system whereby they forward their Family Tree to one person, i.e. everyone has a predetermined receiver of this valuable information and no one has more than one persons file. If the sender were to loose their information it can be recovered via forwarding it to the lister once they are in a position to receive it back. Obviously the receiver does not open the file, they act like a bank. > Any thoughts, regards, Zola >

It just so happens after posting the idea of a map, right now I am trying to place an office in Camp Street. The year is 1859 and the owner of the building writes that it is two doors south of the Empire Hotel. In 1861 he writes that he is two doors south of the Empire Hotel and near the Post Office. Has the Empire always been on the corner of High and Camp? I was happy to place the building from the 1859 entry but now wonder about 1861 - where was the Post Office then? I thought PP may at least be able to assist with the Empire Hotel query. regards Denise

Hi Pamela, Great Snippet, that would be great. Keep up the good work. From Sue. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pamela S" <pakash1@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 11:10 PM Subject: [HC] News of the day! > Snippets for the First week of January > >From On this Day in the North East - Graham Jones > > January 1 Corowa Post Office was opened in 1861, the publican of Corowa Hotel acted as postmaster > Foundation stone of Beechworth's Wesleyan Chapel was laid by the Rev John C Symons > Wangaratta first public hospital opened 1872 > The foundation stone of the new wing of the Ovens Benevolent Asylum was laid by Mrs Elizabeth Keogh, sister of > the late Theresa Ellen Wallace(dec 1882) who was the wife of Beechworth Pioneer John Wallace > Dr Cullinan of Bethanga died in 1901 after a fall from a horse- was a surgeon in the English Navy, spent > many years living in Wangaratta > > January 3 Smiths Welcome Inn on Reid's Creek was consumed by fire in 1858, many rescued 6 bodies recovered > A volunteer firebrigade was formed in Beechworth soon afterwards. > Yarrawonga Coffee Palace was destroyed by fire in 1896- building occupied by Mrs Mary Fair > > January 5 One of the oldest buildings in Wangaratta built by "Father of Wangaratta" W H Clark, located near the > entrance of Merriwa Park was destroyed in 1929. Fire broke out in shop occupied by Harrison the tin-smith. > The old buildings were in the process of being dismantled to enable a Ford garage to be built on the site > > January 6 First issue of the O&M Advertiser 1855 > Launched as the only local newspaper on the main Sydney Road between Melbourne and Goulburn, by Francis > Hodgson Nixon, architect, surveyor . > The Wahgunyah railway line was officially opened in 1879 > > January 7 The first touring English Cricket team to tour the colonies travelled by coach leaving Melbourne at noon and arriving in > Wangaratta in time for breakfast - are to play a team from the North East > > > I'll try and post weekly if any one is interested. > > Pamela S >

One of my daughters lives in the fire prone Dandenong's and on days of Total Fire Ban she forwards her business files to my email, hence having a complete backup. Because some on this list are also fire prone I was wondering if we could set up a system whereby they forward their Family Tree to one person, i.e. everyone has a predetermined receiver of this valuable information and no one has more than one persons file. If the sender were to loose their information it can be recovered via forwarding it to the lister once they are in a position to receive it back. Obviously the receiver does not open the file, they act like a bank. Any thoughts, regards, Zola

Yes please Pamela, most interesting, Zola ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pamela S" <pakash1@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 11:10 PM Subject: [HC] News of the day! > Snippets for the First week of January >>From On this Day in the North East - Graham Jones > > January 1 Corowa Post Office was opened in 1861, the publican of Corowa > Hotel acted as postmaster > Foundation stone of Beechworth's Wesleyan Chapel was laid > by the Rev John C Symons > Wangaratta first public hospital opened 1872 > The foundation stone of the new wing of the Ovens > Benevolent Asylum was laid by Mrs Elizabeth Keogh, sister of > the late Theresa Ellen Wallace(dec 1882) who was the wife > of Beechworth Pioneer John Wallace > Dr Cullinan of Bethanga died in 1901 after a fall from a > horse- was a surgeon in the English Navy, spent > many years living in Wangaratta > > January 3 Smiths Welcome Inn on Reid's Creek was consumed by fire in > 1858, many rescued 6 bodies recovered > A volunteer firebrigade was formed in Beechworth soon > afterwards. > Yarrawonga Coffee Palace was destroyed by fire in 1896- > building occupied by Mrs Mary Fair > > January 5 One of the oldest buildings in Wangaratta built by "Father of > Wangaratta" W H Clark, located near the > entrance of Merriwa Park was destroyed in 1929. Fire broke > out in shop occupied by Harrison the tin-smith. > The old buildings were in the process of being dismantled > to enable a Ford garage to be built on the site > > January 6 First issue of the O&M Advertiser 1855 > Launched as the only local newspaper on the main Sydney > Road between Melbourne and Goulburn, by Francis > Hodgson Nixon, architect, surveyor . > The Wahgunyah railway line was officially opened in 1879 > > January 7 The first touring English Cricket team to tour the colonies > travelled by coach leaving Melbourne at noon and arriving in > Wangaratta in time for breakfast - are to play a team > from the North East > > > I'll try and post weekly if any one is interested. > > Pamela S >

yes, great Jenny. We bought a book in Rome with overlays which shows the different stages of the ancient buildings etc. from how they are now to how they were back in the beginning. Super. Now all we need is some listers contributing and someone to take it on. I imagine it wouldn't be something completed in just months. Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: <jnnyb@aol.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [HC] Idea > Denise, > > A FHG I belong have considered this for a large area. > I guess all you need is a base map from which to start. We considered > putting overlays on the map with different themes. e.g. where schools or > churches were. Considering some pieces of land will have had numerous > uses, all of which you may want to indicate, it is one way of tackling it. > A Uni student near us has done a similar thing where a town is illustrated > at different points in time (e.g. 1854, 1900, 1950). It has it's problems > as it obviously misses some things and isn't wide enough in what it > includes (and only uses poor secondary sources), but that's another angle > to consider. > A great idea. > > Jenny > > -----Original Message----- > From: Denise <denisem@powerup.com.au> > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:08:21 +1000 > Subject: [HC] Idea > > I am wondering if anyone has ever thought of doing a historical map of > Beechworth (at least as far as we on the list are concerned) as to where > things > were (shops/business names etc) and where people lived. > Contributions from the listers could make this quite interesting. For > example > I know exactly where two Undertakers were from descriptions in > advertisements. > > Just a thought. > > Ha! I'm not offering. Someone with computer skills needed > > D > > >

Denise, You'll be thrilled to know that it has already been done (well in a manner) - it's called Beechworth Echoes of History Follow the Pioneers - A self guided walking tour of the Central Business District of Historic Beechworth, Victoria and is available from the Beechworth Visitor Information Centre. The guide includes streets such as Camp, Church, Loch and Ford Streets and includes buildings such as Crawford & Connolly Coaches shop front, Dodd's leather merchant, J Kyle builder, Bray's Photographic Studio etc. Anne -----Original Message----- From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, 4 January 2006 9:08 AM To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HC] Idea I am wondering if anyone has ever thought of doing a historical map of Beechworth (at least as far as we on the list are concerned) as to where things were (shops/business names etc) and where people lived. Contributions from the listers could make this quite interesting. For example I know exactly where two Undertakers were from descriptions in advertisements. Just a thought. Ha! I'm not offering. Someone with computer skills needed D

The photos taken at the Cemetery were just random. As it was such a hot day just pointed the camera and clicked. So not all connected to each other Cheers Kathryn More to be added later http://www.angelfire.com/planet/beechworth/beechworth_victoria/

More than happy to help if anyone wants to back up, I would merely burn to Cd and hold. Another option is to give a Cd you have burnt yourself to a friend or family offsite. Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zola Ortenburg" <zolaortenburg@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 9:03 AM Subject: [HC] Safe records (Chat) > One of my daughters lives in the fire prone Dandenong's and on days of > Total Fire Ban she forwards her business files to my email, hence having a > complete backup. > Because some on this list are also fire prone I was wondering if we could > set up a system whereby they forward their Family Tree to one person, i.e. > everyone has a predetermined receiver of this valuable information and no > one has more than one persons file. If the sender were to loose their > information it can be recovered via forwarding it to the lister once they > are in a position to receive it back. Obviously the receiver does not open > the file, they act like a bank. > Any thoughts, regards, Zola

Yes please Pamela. Would be most interesting as an insight to those times and places. Regards Irene R Rees/Dowsett Family Page http://tribalpages.com/tribes/Brent44 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.11/219 - Release Date: 1/2/06

Which one of the family are you wanting? pp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris" <wildmob@dodo.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 10:05 PM Subject: [HC] Undertakers records > Special request please PP > > Can you dip into the Kyle file & tell us what you have on THOMPSON, > June 1868. > > Thanks > Chris > >

Morning Anne, Think I've seen this, I was more inclined to include private homes as well. Never mind, early morning dreaming. regards Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hanson" <ahanson8@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 8:16 AM Subject: RE: [HC] Idea > Denise, > > You'll be thrilled to know that it has already been done (well in a > manner) - it's called Beechworth Echoes of History Follow the Pioneers - A > self guided walking tour of the Central Business District of Historic > Beechworth, Victoria and is available from the Beechworth Visitor > Information Centre. The guide includes streets such as Camp, Church, Loch > and Ford Streets and includes buildings such as Crawford & Connolly > Coaches > shop front, Dodd's leather merchant, J Kyle builder, Bray's Photographic > Studio etc. > > Anne > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] > Sent: Wednesday, 4 January 2006 9:08 AM > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HC] Idea > > > I am wondering if anyone has ever thought of doing a historical map of > Beechworth (at least as far as we on the list are concerned) as to where > things were (shops/business names etc) and where people lived. > Contributions from the listers could make this quite interesting. For > example I know exactly where two Undertakers were from descriptions in > advertisements. > > Just a thought. > > Ha! I'm not offering. Someone with computer skills needed > > D >

I am wondering if anyone has ever thought of doing a historical map of Beechworth (at least as far as we on the list are concerned) as to where things were (shops/business names etc) and where people lived. Contributions from the listers could make this quite interesting. For example I know exactly where two Undertakers were from descriptions in advertisements. Just a thought. Ha! I'm not offering. Someone with computer skills needed D

PP - Chris has gone out She's looking for Charles d ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Dean" <Deans@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [HC] Undertakers records > Which one of the family are you wanting? > pp > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris" <wildmob@dodo.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 10:05 PM > Subject: [HC] Undertakers records > > >> Special request please PP >> >> Can you dip into the Kyle file & tell us what you have on THOMPSON, >> June 1868. >> >> Thanks >> Chris >> >>