Hi Hec thanks I'm trying to place a shop on Camp St which would have been between the P.O. and where the Empire is now. However from what I can work out the Empire was at least up until the fire of 1867 only about three doors from the P.O. I have someone who had a shop 'two doors south of the Empire hotel" the years were 1859 thru to 1865 or 66 so far that I can find my subject there. The description of where his shop was comes from advertisements. So how could he describe it for years as being south if it was alongside the Empire almost?????? Does anyone have reconstruction of Beechworth and in particular Camp Street and can look up 1861 for please and tell me what surnames run along that section of the road - ie. between Ford and High Streets. Many thanks regards Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: <heca@iprimus.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 3:50 PM Subject: RE: [HC] Beechworth locals > Hi Denise, > South will be behind you, > cheers > Hec >>-- Original Message -- >>From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> >>Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:41:21 +1000 >>To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com >>Reply-To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: [HC] Beechworth locals >> >> >>Usually I can find my way around the world without any problems but when >>in Beechworth I never know which is north west south or east. >> >>So, could a local or anyone who probably knows, please tell me if I was > standing >>at the Bakery looking across the street to the P.O. which direction would >>be south? >> >>Behind me, to the right, to the left? >> >>Denise >>

Boss answer sent to you off line pp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 11:09 AM Subject: [HC] Empire Hotel > It just so happens after posting the idea of a map, right now I am trying to place an office in Camp Street. > > The year is 1859 and the owner of the building writes that it is two doors south of the Empire Hotel. > > In 1861 he writes that he is two doors south of the Empire Hotel and near the Post Office. > > Has the Empire always been on the corner of High and Camp? I was happy to place the building from the 1859 entry but now wonder about 1861 - where was the Post Office then? > > I thought PP may at least be able to assist with the Empire Hotel query. > regards > Denise > >

Maybe we each need a 'safe email friend' ? W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zola Ortenburg" <zolaortenburg@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [HC] Safe records (Chat) > I agree burning and keeping a copy in a safe place is great, but what > happens if the friend is just down the road and in the same position as you, > their house goes up in smoke also. As an example - I have been with my > daughter when smoke came streaming up the valley, we left the house with 3 > children, 2 dogs, water, woollen blankets and little else and just managed > to get out of her road (track) which was already blocked by fire trucks, the > computer was still running forwarding files. Zola > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:07 AM > Subject: Re: [HC] Safe records (Chat) > > > > More than happy to help if anyone wants to back up, I would merely burn to > > Cd and hold. > > Another option is to give a Cd you have burnt yourself to a friend or > > family offsite. > > Denise > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Zola Ortenburg" <zolaortenburg@bigpond.com> > > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 9:03 AM > > Subject: [HC] Safe records (Chat) > > > > > >> One of my daughters lives in the fire prone Dandenong's and on days of > >> Total Fire Ban she forwards her business files to my email, hence having > >> a complete backup. > >> Because some on this list are also fire prone I was wondering if we could > >> set up a system whereby they forward their Family Tree to one person, > >> i.e. everyone has a predetermined receiver of this valuable information > >> and no one has more than one persons file. If the sender were to loose > >> their information it can be recovered via forwarding it to the lister > >> once they are in a position to receive it back. Obviously the receiver > >> does not open the file, they act like a bank. > >> Any thoughts, regards, Zola > > >

Good idea - I'd be interested in participating. Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zola Ortenburg" <zolaortenburg@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:03 AM Subject: [HC] Safe records (Chat) > One of my daughters lives in the fire prone Dandenong's and on days of Total Fire Ban she forwards her business files to my email, hence having a complete backup. > Because some on this list are also fire prone I was wondering if we could set up a system whereby they forward their Family Tree to one person, i.e. everyone has a predetermined receiver of this valuable information and no one has more than one persons file. If the sender were to loose their information it can be recovered via forwarding it to the lister once they are in a position to receive it back. Obviously the receiver does not open the file, they act like a bank. > Any thoughts, regards, Zola >

Ummmmmm.....thanks pp Sure the boss is pleased better record keeping standards were instigated for C and C. Qld papers please copy. Chris On Wednesday, January 4, 2006, at 02:06 PM, Mary Dean wrote: > Oh Chris, > I am so sorry that page is missing from the records (gg) > pp > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris" <wildmob@dodo.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 12:39 PM > Subject: Re: [HC] Undertakers records > > >> Hi pp >> >> Charles Thompson please.... >> James Kyle buried him 10.6.68. >> As ALL the details are given to the undertaker before burial, hoping >> you can share what details were provided at the time! >> >> Chris >> >> >> On Wednesday, January 4, 2006, at 08:49 AM, Mary Dean wrote: >> >>> Which one of the family are you wanting? >>> pp >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Chris" <wildmob@dodo.com.au> >>> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 10:05 PM >>> Subject: [HC] Undertakers records >>> >>> >>>> Special request please PP >>>> >>>> Can you dip into the Kyle file & tell us what you have on THOMPSON, >>>> June 1868. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >

Usually I can find my way around the world without any problems but when in Beechworth I never know which is north west south or east. So, could a local or anyone who probably knows, please tell me if I was standing at the Bakery looking across the street to the P.O. which direction would be south? Behind me, to the right, to the left? Denise

Hello Anne, Thanks. Thought I read about this somewhere while browsing a while ago. Regards, Marina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hanson" <ahanson8@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 2:05 PM Subject: RE: [HC] Wesleyan Church Address - Beechworth > Hi Marina, > > It is as you suggested now known as the Uniting Church. > > Cheers > > Anne > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marina & Bruce Borland [mailto:matilda@snap.net.nz] > Sent: Wednesday, 4 January 2006 10:58 AM > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HC] Wesleyan Church Address - Beechworth > > > Is someone able to provide the postal address (or email address) for the > Wesleyan Church in Beechworth please? Have a feeling it may now be known > as > the United Church, but sure someone will make a correction if wrong. > > Thank you. > > Marina > New Zealand > > > >

Hello Sue, Wonderful. Thank you. Marina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brett n Sue" <coleman10@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Wesleyan Church Address - Beechworth > Hi Marina, > I found this address and phone number in the white pages > telephone directory. > Beechworth Uniting Church 105 Sydney Road, Beechworth, 3747. Phone (03) > 5728 1473. White pages web address is: > http://www.whitepages.com.au/wp/busSearch.jhtml I hope this is the Church > you are after. > From Sue. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marina & Bruce Borland" <matilda@snap.net.nz> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:57 AM > Subject: [HC] Wesleyan Church Address - Beechworth > > >> Is someone able to provide the postal address (or email address) for the > Wesleyan Church in Beechworth please? Have a feeling it may now be known > as > the United Church, but sure someone will make a correction if wrong. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Marina >> New Zealand >> >> > >

Oh Chris, I am so sorry that page is missing from the records (gg) pp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris" <wildmob@dodo.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Undertakers records > Hi pp > > Charles Thompson please.... > James Kyle buried him 10.6.68. > As ALL the details are given to the undertaker before burial, hoping > you can share what details were provided at the time! > > Chris > > > On Wednesday, January 4, 2006, at 08:49 AM, Mary Dean wrote: > > > Which one of the family are you wanting? > > pp > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Chris" <wildmob@dodo.com.au> > > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 10:05 PM > > Subject: [HC] Undertakers records > > > > > >> Special request please PP > >> > >> Can you dip into the Kyle file & tell us what you have on THOMPSON, > >> June 1868. > >> > >> Thanks > >> Chris > >> > >> > > > >

Thank you Anthony - would you believe the one I'm interested in is closed until next mid June - guess it's too cold or frozen over to venture to work at the Museum. regards Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Bigelow." <anthonybigelow@hotmail.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 1:26 PM Subject: RE: [HC] Ships built in 1850 > Have a look at this website: > > http://www.maritimemuseums.net > >>I am hoping someone may know of a link to a website which could possibly >>give me information on a ship commissioned in 1850 by a Canadian - in >>Canada. >> >>This is probably a long shot, but I've got to try. >>So far googling hasn't done much for me. >>regards >>Denise >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > realestate.com.au: the biggest address in property > http://ninemsn.realestate.com.au

Yes, Denise it is. The guided walk's notes say: 'Balgownie' - The Doctor's House - A weatherboard house erected here in 1856 became home to many doctors and their families. Dr. Skinner built the present brick building in 1892-3. He brought the first car to Beechworth, a Renault, in 1912. Private residence not open to the public. Cheers Anne -----Original Message----- From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, 4 January 2006 12:00 PM To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HC] Idea Is this the home of the Dr on the corner of Loch and Camp? I think over time it was the home for several DRs and the room which juts out to the Camp St side was his 'rooms'. The present owner told me this 9 months ago. The house has always intrigued me Anne. regards Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hanson" <ahanson8@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:55 AM Subject: RE: [HC] Idea > Denise, > > I should have added that the publication is glossy and has pictures of all > the buildings mentioned in the walk. And it does have one private home - > that is 'Balgownie' - Dr. Skinner's House. I am sure it (the guide) is > available from the Beechworth Visitor Information Centre - their free call > telephone number is 1300 366 321. > > Cheers > > Anne > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] > Sent: Wednesday, 4 January 2006 9:23 AM > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HC] Idea > > > Morning Anne, > Think I've seen this, I was more inclined to include private homes as > well. > > Never mind, early morning dreaming. > regards > Denise > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anne Hanson" <ahanson8@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 8:16 AM > Subject: RE: [HC] Idea > > >> Denise, >> >> You'll be thrilled to know that it has already been done (well in a >> manner) - it's called Beechworth Echoes of History Follow the Pioneers - >> A >> self guided walking tour of the Central Business District of Historic >> Beechworth, Victoria and is available from the Beechworth Visitor >> Information Centre. The guide includes streets such as Camp, Church, Loch >> and Ford Streets and includes buildings such as Crawford & Connolly >> Coaches >> shop front, Dodd's leather merchant, J Kyle builder, Bray's Photographic >> Studio etc. >> >> Anne >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] >> Sent: Wednesday, 4 January 2006 9:08 AM >> To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [HC] Idea >> >> >> I am wondering if anyone has ever thought of doing a historical map of >> Beechworth (at least as far as we on the list are concerned) as to where >> things were (shops/business names etc) and where people lived. >> Contributions from the listers could make this quite interesting. For >> example I know exactly where two Undertakers were from descriptions in >> advertisements. >> >> Just a thought. >> >> Ha! I'm not offering. Someone with computer skills needed >> >> D >> >

I am hoping someone may know of a link to a website which could possibly give me information on a ship commissioned in 1850 by a Canadian - in Canada. This is probably a long shot, but I've got to try. So far googling hasn't done much for me. regards Denise

Is someone able to provide the postal address (or email address) for the Wesleyan Church in Beechworth please? Have a feeling it may now be known as the United Church, but sure someone will make a correction if wrong. Thank you. Marina New Zealand

Hi pp Charles Thompson please.... James Kyle buried him 10.6.68. As ALL the details are given to the undertaker before burial, hoping you can share what details were provided at the time! Chris On Wednesday, January 4, 2006, at 08:49 AM, Mary Dean wrote: > Which one of the family are you wanting? > pp > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris" <wildmob@dodo.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 10:05 PM > Subject: [HC] Undertakers records > > >> Special request please PP >> >> Can you dip into the Kyle file & tell us what you have on THOMPSON, >> June 1868. >> >> Thanks >> Chris >> >> >

Denise, Thanks for this and yes authors of the guided walk say (and I obviously didn't read it properly the first time): The Post Office was completed in 1859 and a short tower added the next year. Following a fire along Camp Street in 1867 it was rebuilt with the bell and clocktower. ... Anne -----Original Message----- From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, 4 January 2006 12:09 PM To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HC] Idea and here is the fire extract I did in 2003 - Anne note where the Post Office moved to (g). For Mary and Di. Snippets as I see them. I can't relay the whole article/s on the fire as it occupies several pages. I originally said I would type the article but as I went thru the paper I found it was THE story of the day. Too much to do here. But ifyou want to read yourself it is in the Ovens and Murray Advertiser for March 26th. The glow was seen from Chiltern and Wangaratta and bits of paper ended up in Reid Creek. Must have been one heck of a show. THE BURNING OF THE BEECHWORTH CEMETERY RECORDS. The total destruction of the Beechworth Cemetery records which occurred through the burning of Mr. Ingram's shop on Saturday evening last, (Di this would have been 23rd Marc 67.)if not promptly remedied as far as possible may hereafter prove highly detrimental to the interests of many persons whose relatives have been interred in that place of sepulture. We think it would be advisable for all interested to take steps to refurnish these archives at least so far as practicable. - The Post Office moved to Crawford's Buildings in Ford Street - hope they paid rent. - The fire alarm rang about 11.15 pm. The fire had broken out in a corner of the stables attached to the Empire Hotel, Camp Street. This stable was the one nearest to and almost adjoining the Bank of Australiasia. All horses removed from stables except for one poor animal which seems to have been overlooked. - Mr. Little of the Nine Mile line of coaches managed to save all that belonged to him that was in the stable and yard. The pigs got out safely. While the fire was being fought between the stable and the Bank it spread rapidly in a southerly direction and the hotel itself was soon in a blaze. The wind altho not strong was sufficient to fan the flames. The Fire Brigade arrives but their assistance was of no use as there was no supply of water. Although the tank on the hill was it apears ful of water thrugh some defect in one of the hydrants it was not available at the lower end of the town. It was evident the hotel was not to be saved so the attentions were directed elsewhere. Youngs book store next door was soon also enveloped in flames altho the brick walls resisted for some time. This allowed Mr. Young with the help of a few personal friends to remove a great portion of his stock in trade but his furniture was nearly all destoryed. Some of the female members of his family were so alarmed that they were perfectly incapable of any action. In a very short time the shop was completely destroyed and only two brick walls left standing.. Within a quarter hour of the fire breaking out, Mr. Ingram's stationer's shop next to Mr. Young's caught fire. Very little could be removed from this shop a the fierceness of the flames rendered it impossible to get near the building, built of wood. All the business books of Mr. Ingram's were unfortunately burnt together with the records of teh Cemetery of which he was secretary. With the fire raging thru three premises, INgrams the hotel and Youngs the heat was so intense it was almost impossible to stand on the opposite sid of the street. The verandahs across the street at one time were burning and smoking. They were soonpulled down. Should these shops have caught fire the wind would have swept the flames right up Ford Street through the wood buildings an a major disaster would have hit Beechworth. By now the fire had spread to the shop occupied by Mr. Dunn the tailor, next to the Empire. and also the offices occupied by Mr. Martin solicitor behind which was a large room at one time used as a gym. Fears the fire would not stop until it reached the corner of HIgh St. Next went the Chinese store. They managed to get a good deal of their stock out. The residence of Mr. Townsend the dentist was next. Every attempt made to save this building. It was at this point the fire was halted as Mr. Townsends roof was torn down, and damp blankets placed over the remainder. To stop the fire any further just in case it did destroy Mr. Townsends the properties of Mr. Hoch the butcher and the large room used for holding meetings of the German Rifle Association were pulled down. "It may therefore be said that not one of the houses from the cnr of Camp and Ford Sts to the orner of Camp and High escaped without some injury" All this was in the easterly direction but now for the opposite direction. The orchard attached to the Post Office was on fire almost as soon as the Empire HOtel. Mr Byrchall the postmaster had taken every precaution for saving the letters and newspapers and had them all in the passage of his private residence ready for removal upon a constable appearing to take charge of them. They were eventually removed. Mr. Byrchall in his attempts to save the correspondence lost all his private property. One of the drapers hops in Ford St started to catch, but it was immediately extinguished. All that remianed of the Empire and some of the buildings was a few chimney stacks "alone in their glory". On Monday things were still smoking. The loss amounted to voer £10,000. From YOungs to the Chinese store the property was owned by a Mr. W.C. Jones-Parry who had practised as a barrister in Beechworth but was then in England. Many people lost their possessions in these buildings, for example Mr.Ingram's manager lost all his furntiure and clothes of his family. The Groom at the stables lost everything and his wife was about a week after her "acccouchement" had to be carried out. Mr. Martin the solictor lost most of his law books. Staff tenants and owners and house guests (yes people just visiting others) lost their possessions. The Post Office mail ws deposted for safety in the Bank of NSW and then removed to the temporary office at Crawfords Buildings in Ford St. Mmr. George Garrod a waiter at the Empire HOtel lost all his possessions, just as he had done at the burning of the Star HOtel in Chiltern only 2 years earlier. Value of property destroyed - Mr. Ingram £2000 Mr YOung 3000 Mr. Newson £1200 Mr. Byrchall £300 Mr. Dunn £100 Mr Martin £50 Mr. Sheppard £100 Chinese store £50 Mr. Townsend £50 McLeod £50 THE BEECHWORTH CEMETERY As we remarked in our report of the disastrous fire that occurred in Camp St on the night of Saturday last, the records connected with the above Cemetery were utterly destroyed. This is avery serious matter, for although it is true that the last resting places of many are distinctly marked by monuments it is unquestionably a fact that the names of the great majority of those interred in the Cemetery can only be traced by its books. Those books are like the names of the individuals they contained amongst the tings of the past. A good deal may be done however to alleviate the loss if immediate action be taken. Let all those who have friends or relatives interred in teh groudn gather up names and dates of burial and let the Secretary to the Trustees be required to keep a book always available in which these details may be entered. By this means a great amount of the lost information may be recovered.Whilst upon this subject we must be allowed to express our asonishment at the careless manner in which teh books alluded to were stored. Surely a corner might have been found in some iron safe for their deposit even if the high rates charged for sepulture did not afford sufficient income to purchase so necessary an article for their custody. We wil hope that in future the Cemtery records will be placed beyond the reach of danger from fire. = An inquest was held into the fire - Mr. INgram moved his business into a shop at the Star Theatre buildings Ford St. opposite Crawford Buildings. J Young was selling from the Star Theatre. -- Hope this helps. Denise A Fire Relief Fund was set up.

Denise, There is a one page article on the Fire of 1867 in the book 'Background to Beechworth' on page 51 - let me know if you have the book. Cheers Anne -----Original Message----- From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, 4 January 2006 12:01 PM To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HC] Empire Hotel meaning then that Gruber's stone cottage in 1866 has gone! I must check the 67 papers to see if any mention.......................anyone know the date of the fire? See what this list does? Fantastic. Thanks Anne Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hanson" <ahanson8@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:56 AM Subject: RE: [HC] Empire Hotel > Denise, > > As far as I am aware the Post Office has been on its current site since > 1859 > and guess what - the original Empire Hotel was where the Beechworth > Emporium > is today that is beside the newsagents and is diagonally opposite the > Bakery. The walking guide I talked about earlier this morning says - > Beechworth Emporium - first site of the Empire Hotel, also previously > known > as the Post Office Hotel and the Central Hotel. The great fire of 1867 is > thought to have begun here. All buildings on this side (meaning Newsagency > side) of Camp Street were destroyed. > > Cheers > > Anne > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] > Sent: Wednesday, 4 January 2006 11:10 AM > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HC] Empire Hotel > > > It just so happens after posting the idea of a map, right now I am > trying > to place an office in Camp Street. > > The year is 1859 and the owner of the building writes that it is two doors > south of the Empire Hotel. > > In 1861 he writes that he is two doors south of the Empire Hotel and near > the Post Office. > > Has the Empire always been on the corner of High and Camp? I was happy to > place the building from the 1859 entry but now wonder about 1861 - where > was > the Post Office then? > > I thought PP may at least be able to assist with the Empire Hotel query. > regards > Denise >

Hi Marina, It is as you suggested now known as the Uniting Church. Cheers Anne -----Original Message----- From: Marina & Bruce Borland [mailto:matilda@snap.net.nz] Sent: Wednesday, 4 January 2006 10:58 AM To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HC] Wesleyan Church Address - Beechworth Is someone able to provide the postal address (or email address) for the Wesleyan Church in Beechworth please? Have a feeling it may now be known as the United Church, but sure someone will make a correction if wrong. Thank you. Marina New Zealand

Denise, As far as I am aware the Post Office has been on its current site since 1859 and guess what - the original Empire Hotel was where the Beechworth Emporium is today that is beside the newsagents and is diagonally opposite the Bakery. The walking guide I talked about earlier this morning says - Beechworth Emporium - first site of the Empire Hotel, also previously known as the Post Office Hotel and the Central Hotel. The great fire of 1867 is thought to have begun here. All buildings on this side (meaning Newsagency side) of Camp Street were destroyed. Cheers Anne -----Original Message----- From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, 4 January 2006 11:10 AM To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HC] Empire Hotel It just so happens after posting the idea of a map, right now I am trying to place an office in Camp Street. The year is 1859 and the owner of the building writes that it is two doors south of the Empire Hotel. In 1861 he writes that he is two doors south of the Empire Hotel and near the Post Office. Has the Empire always been on the corner of High and Camp? I was happy to place the building from the 1859 entry but now wonder about 1861 - where was the Post Office then? I thought PP may at least be able to assist with the Empire Hotel query. regards Denise

Denise, I should have added that the publication is glossy and has pictures of all the buildings mentioned in the walk. And it does have one private home - that is 'Balgownie' - Dr. Skinner's House. I am sure it (the guide) is available from the Beechworth Visitor Information Centre - their free call telephone number is 1300 366 321. Cheers Anne -----Original Message----- From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, 4 January 2006 9:23 AM To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HC] Idea Morning Anne, Think I've seen this, I was more inclined to include private homes as well. Never mind, early morning dreaming. regards Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hanson" <ahanson8@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 8:16 AM Subject: RE: [HC] Idea > Denise, > > You'll be thrilled to know that it has already been done (well in a > manner) - it's called Beechworth Echoes of History Follow the Pioneers - A > self guided walking tour of the Central Business District of Historic > Beechworth, Victoria and is available from the Beechworth Visitor > Information Centre. The guide includes streets such as Camp, Church, Loch > and Ford Streets and includes buildings such as Crawford & Connolly > Coaches > shop front, Dodd's leather merchant, J Kyle builder, Bray's Photographic > Studio etc. > > Anne > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] > Sent: Wednesday, 4 January 2006 9:08 AM > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HC] Idea > > > I am wondering if anyone has ever thought of doing a historical map of > Beechworth (at least as far as we on the list are concerned) as to where > things were (shops/business names etc) and where people lived. > Contributions from the listers could make this quite interesting. For > example I know exactly where two Undertakers were from descriptions in > advertisements. > > Just a thought. > > Ha! I'm not offering. Someone with computer skills needed > > D >

Hi Marina, I found this address and phone number in the white pages telephone directory. Beechworth Uniting Church 105 Sydney Road, Beechworth, 3747. Phone (03) 5728 1473. White pages web address is: http://www.whitepages.com.au/wp/busSearch.jhtml I hope this is the Church you are after. From Sue. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marina & Bruce Borland" <matilda@snap.net.nz> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:57 AM Subject: [HC] Wesleyan Church Address - Beechworth > Is someone able to provide the postal address (or email address) for the Wesleyan Church in Beechworth please? Have a feeling it may now be known as the United Church, but sure someone will make a correction if wrong. > > Thank you. > > Marina > New Zealand > >