Some of the subscribers to the Ovens District Hospital between 1/7/67 and 30/9/67 J van Den Berg 2/2/- C Reichardt 10/- F. W. Styles 1/-/- G Ross 1/-/- Gilbert Power 1/1/- S Byrant 5/- - employee of James Henley A Goring 10/5 and dozens more

after the fires which swept thru from High to Ford Sts. PP and Anne 12.10.1867 The two very handsome buildings lately erected by Mr. Ingram on the site of the premises burnt down with the Empire Hotel are now nearly completed........ Brick building two stories high very handsome front front and elegant fittings. One has already been opened by Mr. Young the boot seller.

then the slide thingo underneath would slide away from the round magnifying thingy. Good thought tho Dawn. D

> Denise - why don't you get a spare reel & wind the film onto it as you've > read - no mess on the floor, no fear of damage & hubby can get the > hoovering done without the fear of some of Beechworth's history > disappearing up the tube. Yes I still manually re roll the film at the > end. Sounds too hard. No one can get in the way of my film under the desk - it won't grab anyone who is vacuuming, who vacuums under the desk when there is film there? And yes please - Box Seats in fact let us have the reigns.

Hi Denise Possibly Past Grand Master, however that is usually written up in the papers as PGM...typo (on the papers behalf of course!!). Roz Voullaire roz@voullaire.com.au http://www.geocities.com/rvoull/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 6:55 PM Subject: [HC] Masons > Can anyone tell me please what P.G. stands for in the Masonic Lodge. > PM = Past master. >

Jenny- > Denise when you say you cut yours and put them in pockets are we > talking A4 clear protector sort of pockets? I have in the past bought FICHE pockets from MacBeth or the like - very very cheap. > And while we're on the subject, has anyone worked out a way to > successfully digitise newspaper film? Jenny I too have a scanner which scans film and slides - I have tried to scan film, have been only mildly successful but I think that is my own fault. However be careful of copyright if you are going to scan and use in a publication. Copyright can still exist and you must seek permission of the paper concerned, be it owned by the same company or another after a take over. Chris and I had to seek permission of a couple of newspapers two years ago when we did a book on the Upper Murray - which still lingers completed in our files but will be released soon. The pros and Cons of cutting up or not cutting up the film for consideration of those interested - Fiche Pockets - Cutting is time consuming but only the once (g). Put a sticker on the pocket so you know the date of the film inside. The beauty of cutting is that you can refer to any given date in a minute and have the information you want. HOWEVER, never ever drop the lot on the floor if you have not dated! I have 3 years of the Federal Standard undated, and which at some time were dropped on the floor. What a mess, no date, so I have not sorted them out. to do so would mean insert the fiche pocket into the reader, then date, then sort. Hundreds of the things! Film on rolls - simple way to go or so it seems. I merely let the film I"ve read drop over the back of my desk onto the floor as it comes out of the reader and where it stays out of the way until I have finished and need to re-roll manually. This takes maybe 3 minutes to do. HOWEVER, as soon as you have re-rolled the film you always have to unroll it, check something or go back for something missed. Unroll the film all over the floor until you get to the date. Get your information and then start to re-roll. Untangled the dog, unwrap the chair legs, don't trip yourself and make sure no one walks on it. Then re-roll - 3 minutes for a small item you needed. HOWEVER - every single minute is worth it in the long run for your own research. Chris - the Federal Standard is one also where you need to stand on your head, on the desk, sideways , twisting your neck with your arms between your legs and type at the same time....tad tiring. One must call for help after an hour to be untangled and dropped on the floor then ironed out flat. No, not the film, me. Thankfully the OMA is up the right way. D

Hi Jenny, Anthony. Ronda, & Denise. As an addict of reading old newspapers, I also only pull the film thru a fiche reader. My uptake reel obviously needs to be hand operated, but not much exertion needed there! If you are lucky enough you may get hold of a fiche reader that has been adapted for the use of reels. An attachment of sorts (my terminology) fixes to the side of the reader near the slide. You turn the handle & presto the film winds for you, both forwards & even backwards, altho at no great speed. Unfortunately for me, I was too slow on the uptake to acquire such a work of art when my local library updated....think I was away at the time. If anyone can suggest of a way of rotating the image once on the screen in simplistic language and without damaging the inside workings of the machine, I would love to hear. I have a multitude of reels to me imaged the wrong way round. It is not good for ones, back, shoulders, neck to view these for any great length of time. Altho I admit I have & the suffering was well worth it!! I have no trouble in viewing the print on screen, the quality of the print does however vary, but that's the film itself. I personally would not recommend Denise's idea of cutting up the film, I do find that harder to work with, but each to their own. When I finish totally, with mine they will probably get donated to my local library who would probably appreciate them more if they were left in tact - or I could bequeath them to the children I suppose!!... Chris On Thursday, January 5, 2006, at 06:07 PM, jnnyb@aol.com wrote: > Hi Anthony & Ronda, > > Have you considered just making a simple frame from timber with two > turning thingys at each end that sit at either side of your fiche > reader in the style of a 'real' film reader? > Then run the film through your microfiche reader. Wouldn't recommend > it for fast rewind though! And too much use of the film will > eventually damage it using this method as there aren't nice soft > rollers to guide it but if you are careful it should work. Of course > the lens size on your fiche reader may need to be changed (or use a > dual lens reader) to enable you to view the film. > > Jenny > > -----Original Message----- > From: Anthony Bigelow. <anthonybigelow@hotmail.com> > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 00:15:49 +0000 > Subject: Re: [HC] Off Topic - 35mm Newspaper reader > > Hi Ronda, > > Very quiet actually, I'll send you some info off list. > > Anthony > > >Hi Anthony, > >Have you had any replies? > >Ronda > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Bigelow" >> <anthonybigelow@hotmail.com> > >To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 9:08 AM > >Subject: [HC] Off Topic - 35mm Newspaper reader > > > > > >>Would anyone know where I could pickup a cheap 35mm newspaper > reader - >>please contact me off list. > >> > >>Thanks, Anthony > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________ > >>Buy now @ Tradingpost.com.au > >>http://a.ninemsn.com.au/ > b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fad%2Eau%2Edoubleclick%2 > Enet%2Fclk%3B24875379%3B12369854%3Ba%3Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Etradingpost%2 > Ec > om%2Eau%3Freferrer%3DnmsnHMetagv1&_t=752643439&_r=hotmailtagline&_m=EXT > >> > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > ASUS M5 Ultra-slim lightweight is Now $1999 (was $2,999) > http://a.ninemsn.com.au/ > b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Easus%2Ecom%2Eau%2F& > _t=752129232&_r=Hotmail_tagline_23Nov05&_m=EXT > > >

Jenny hi I use a fiche reader to read film and I have had no trouble whatsoever with the quality of the film even after reading each film several times plus the times I have loaned these films to others. I was interested to read of the 'thingys' idea, have you tried this? This would surely mean that you would have to re-wind the film from the right hand side of the reader back to the original reel so that the film would be at the beginning of each year. Not a bad idea, but it doesn't take much time to re-wind it by hand. Not trying to put your idea down by any means in fact I would be interested in hearing how other people tackle this. As for the lens size I've never had any trouble reading the size of the print, it is much larger than the newspapers today. The only problem would be that the film itself is poor quality - which the manufacturer actually says on the roll from time to time. And then the bulb will blow in the midst of a wonderful piece (g). One idea I tried is cutting the film so that it fits into pockets. I get two pieces into a pocket, date it and put into a card box. It is very easy to find a date should you have to go back to the film for a check up at any time. However the initial couple of hours required to cut and slip into pockets may not appeal to everyone. I now just use the roll method. Whatever method, or what ever machine you use, it's well worth it. Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: <jnnyb@aol.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Off Topic - 35mm Newspaper reader > Hi Anthony & Ronda, > > Have you considered just making a simple frame from timber with two > turning thingys at each end that sit at either side of your fiche reader > in the style of a 'real' film reader? > Then run the film through your microfiche reader. Wouldn't recommend it > for fast rewind though! And too much use of the film will eventually > damage it using this method as there aren't nice soft rollers to guide it > but if you are careful it should work. Of course the lens size on your > fiche reader may need to be changed (or use a dual lens reader) to enable > you to view the film. > > Jenny > > -----Original Message----- > From: Anthony Bigelow. <anthonybigelow@hotmail.com> > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 00:15:49 +0000 > Subject: Re: [HC] Off Topic - 35mm Newspaper reader > > Hi Ronda, > > Very quiet actually, I'll send you some info off list. > > Anthony > > >Hi Anthony, > >Have you had any replies? > >Ronda > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Bigelow" >><anthonybigelow@hotmail.com> > >To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 9:08 AM > >Subject: [HC] Off Topic - 35mm Newspaper reader > > > > > >>Would anyone know where I could pickup a cheap 35mm newspaper reader - > >>please contact me off list. > >> > >>Thanks, Anthony > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________ > >>Buy now @ Tradingpost.com.au > >>http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fad%2Eau%2Edoubleclick%2 > Enet%2Fclk%3B24875379%3B12369854%3Ba%3Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Etradingpost%2Ec > om%2Eau%3Freferrer%3DnmsnHMetagv1&_t=752643439&_r=hotmailtagline&_m=EXT > >> > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > ASUS M5 Ultra-slim lightweight is Now $1999 (was $2,999) > http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Easus%2Ecom%2Eau%2F& > _t=752129232&_r=Hotmail_tagline_23Nov05&_m=EXT > > >

Hi Chris Birth on 05 Aug 1893 at Newtown, Beechworth. No. 1768 in the register of Births in the District of Beechworth 1892 Thomas Henry PLAYLE, Male Father: Arnold PLAYLE, watchmaker, age 36, born Yackandandah Mother: Lucy PLAYLE formerly TANSWELL age 31, born Bright Married: 23 Sep 1889 Beechworth Other Issue: Lucy Elizabeth, 3 years Informant: Lucy PLAYLE, Mother, Beechworth Witnesses: Not any Nursh: Mrs. STALLARD Other Witnesses: Not any Registered: 02 Oct 1893 Cheers Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris" <wildmob@dodo.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [HC] SPARES > Hi Carol > interested in the birth of PLAYLE pls. > > Thanks > Chris > On Tuesday, January 3, 2006, at 02:04 PM, Carol Barrie wrote: > >> BIRTHS >> PLAYLE, Thomas Henry 05 Aug 1892 New Town, Beechworth >> >

Hi Jill Marriage as St. Paul's Manse Wangaratta on Wednesday 01 Dec 1897 No. 63 in the registrar of Marriages solemnized in the Districts of Wangaratta and Oxley 1897 Charles STEWART, bachelor, born Beechworth, Victoria, labourer age 29 years. Present and usual residence: Wangaratta. Father: Thomas Charles Stewart, deceased, Editor Mother: Catherine Murdoch Alison Stewart BOYD, spinster, born Tarrawingee, Victoria, Domestic duties, age 21 years. Present and usual residence: Tarrawingee Father: James Boyd, carpenter (?) Mother: Margaret Stewart Certified by John Hall Angus (?), Presbyterian Minister Marriage by License according to the rites of the Presbyterian Church Witnesses: Marion Carrick Cunningham, Beechworth M (?) Angus, Wangaratta (wife of minister?) Cheers Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Glover" <jmglover@tpg.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [HC] SPARES/ Stewart marriage please > Hi Carole, > Thank you for sending those, I'd be interested in the STEWART marriage > please. When you have time, of course. > many thanks, > Jill > >

Hi Kerry George Edward BAIRD born 17 Aug 1877 no. 116 in the register of births in the District of Beechworth 1877 Father: David BAIRD, miner age 21, born Melbourne, Victoria Mother: Catherine BAIRD Formerly ROY, age 21, born Melbourne, Victoria Married 18 May 1877, Beechworth. No other issue Informant: David Baird, miner, One Mile, Father Witness: H.J. Fox Certified by: Mrs. Baird Other Witnesses: Not any Registered 13 Oct 1877 Registrar John Fletcher Cheers Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry" <kerryb@austarnet.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [HC] SPARES > Hi Carol > I am interested in the > BAIRD, George Edward 17 Aug 1877 One Mile, Beechworth > > Kerry > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carol Barrie > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 1:04 PM > Subject: [HC] SPARES > > > BIRTHS > > HULME, Robert James 04 Sep 1877 New Town, Beechworth > SMITH, William Patrick 12 Aug 1877 New Town, Beechworth > BAIRD, George Edward 17 Aug 1877 One Mile, Beechworth > DATSON, Georgina 02 Oct 1877 Mellish Street, Beechworth > HUNTER, Louisa Ellen 19 Sep 1877 Bowmans Forest, Beechworth > PLAYLE, Thomas Henry 05 Aug 1892 New Town, Beechworth > HUNTER, John Reginald 31 Aug 1893 Bowmans Forest, Beechworth > DAVIS, Achibald Henry 21 Aug 1893 McKirman (?) Road, Beechworth > BLUME, Ethel Ivy Irene 15 Aug 1893 Three Mile, Beechworth > FARHALL, Eva Phyllis 18 Aug 1893 Loch Street, Beechworth > > MARRIAGES > > PRITCHARD, Charles Leslie and HUNTER, Ellen Louisa 26 Dec 1895, > Beechworth > SOUTHERN, Robert and HUNTER, Martha 18 Oct 1897, Wangaratta > STEWART, Charles and BOYD Alison Stewart 01 Dec 1897 Wangaratta > FRENCH, Frederick and MORRISONS, Jane 22 Dec 1897 Oxley > > DEATHS > > PRITCHARD, Alexander 05 Apr 1901 Ovens Benevelont Asylum, Beechworth > > > Carol > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: > 29/12/2005 > >

Thank you Carol Fredericks brother Charles married my Great Aunt Mary May Young. Cheers Pamela > > Registration no. 6633 > No. 64 in the Register of Marriages Solemnized in the Districts of > Wangaratta and Oxley 1897 > > At the dwelling house of Mr. J.M. Morrison Oxley on Wednesday the 22nd day > of December 1897. > > Frederick French, bachelor of Greta Victoria occupation Farmer, age 29 > years, present and usual residence Greta. Father Francis Phillip French, > fFarmer and Mother Elizabeth Harriet Cox > and Jane Morrison Spinster of Oxley Victoria occupation Domestic Duties > age 29 years, present and usual residence Oxley. Father John Monteith > Morrison, farmer and Mother Jane Sinclair. > > Certified by John Hall Angus, Presbyterian Minister. Marriage by Licence > was solemnized according to the rites of the Presbyterian Church. > Witnesses: Louisa French of Greta and John French of Greta. > > >

This is an interesting site and may be of some assistance. Thought it was worth forwarding Wendy > Subject: COMBAT/NON-COMBAT, VARIOUS WAR CASUALITIES > > > > Found this site of various Officers who died in various wars, > > combat/non-cambat at http://members.tripod.com/~Glosters/memindex3.htm > > if you find someone, the site owner requests acknowledgement of the site. > > Jenelle > > jmac2005@tpg.com.au > > > > > ==== AUS-NSW-SURNAMES Mailing List ==== > Feel Free to offer your surname searches to the list at any time for updates. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Hi Anthony, Have you had any replies? Ronda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Bigelow" <anthonybigelow@hotmail.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 9:08 AM Subject: [HC] Off Topic - 35mm Newspaper reader > Would anyone know where I could pickup a cheap 35mm newspaper reader - > please contact me off list. > > Thanks, Anthony > > _________________________________________________________________ > Buy now @ Tradingpost.com.au > http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fad%2Eau%2Edoubleclick%2Enet%2Fclk%3B24875379%3B12369854%3Ba%3Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Etradingpost%2Ecom%2Eau%3Freferrer%3DnmsnHMetagv1&_t=752643439&_r=hotmailtagline&_m=EXT >

Hi Denise, Could I please have William Wells's death Certificate, when you have a spare minute. Thanks. From Sue. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 9:20 AM Subject: [HC] Spare Death > Another for the list - however I am not sure if I've posted this one. Excuse me if I repeat myself .... > > Deaths 1870 - Beechworth registration office - > > William Tze Hing > John Crooks > James Kitchens > Hiram Kersey > William Wells > > Births 1875 - Beechworth registration office > > Robert Samuel Pye > Mary Anne Sheary/Sherry > David Erasmus Rasmussen > Ellen Murphy ) > James Murphy) twins > > > Denise >

Hi All I can see a Depositor/Bank idea would be great for most listers. If it goes ahead, I would be prepared to be a Bank, if Zola wants to be organiser of such a plan. Regards Irene R Rees/Dowsett Family Page http://tribalpages.com/tribes/Brent44 -------Original Message------- From: Zola Ortenburg Date: 01/05/06 07:53:05 To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HC] Safe records (Chat) I was thinking we need a roll call of listers who need this service (Depositors) and then a list of those willing to be the (Bank) then we could allocate each depositor a bank. I am willing to compile the list and allocate the banks to the depositors OFF LIST. Any further thoughts welcome. Zola -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.12/220 - Release Date: 1/3/06

I was thinking we need a roll call of listers who need this service (Depositors) and then a list of those willing to be the (Bank) then we could allocate each depositor a bank. I am willing to compile the list and allocate the banks to the depositors OFF LIST. Any further thoughts welcome. Zola ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy" <wendyfensom@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Safe records (Chat) > Maybe we each need a 'safe email friend' ? > W > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zola Ortenburg" <zolaortenburg@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:19 AM > Subject: Re: [HC] Safe records (Chat) > > >> I agree burning and keeping a copy in a safe place is great, but what >> happens if the friend is just down the road and in the same position as > you, >> their house goes up in smoke also. As an example - I have been with my >> daughter when smoke came streaming up the valley, we left the house with >> 3 >> children, 2 dogs, water, woollen blankets and little else and just >> managed >> to get out of her road (track) which was already blocked by fire trucks, > the >> computer was still running forwarding files. Zola >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> >> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:07 AM >> Subject: Re: [HC] Safe records (Chat) >> >> >> > More than happy to help if anyone wants to back up, I would merely burn > to >> > Cd and hold. >> > Another option is to give a Cd you have burnt yourself to a friend or >> > family offsite. >> > Denise >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Zola Ortenburg" <zolaortenburg@bigpond.com> >> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 9:03 AM >> > Subject: [HC] Safe records (Chat) >> > >> > >> >> One of my daughters lives in the fire prone Dandenong's and on days of >> >> Total Fire Ban she forwards her business files to my email, hence > having >> >> a complete backup. >> >> Because some on this list are also fire prone I was wondering if we > could >> >> set up a system whereby they forward their Family Tree to one person, >> >> i.e. everyone has a predetermined receiver of this valuable >> >> information >> >> and no one has more than one persons file. If the sender were to >> >> loose >> >> their information it can be recovered via forwarding it to the lister >> >> once they are in a position to receive it back. Obviously the receiver >> >> does not open the file, they act like a bank. >> >> Any thoughts, regards, Zola >> > >> >

Hurrah! The registry office has just opened! here are birth registrations numbers 91 - 95. Wendy BIRTHS - MELBOURNE - 1853 (MBL) Harriett Alice GOETHE Father: Matthias GOETHE (Born Prussia) Father: Harriett Alice WELLS (Born Belguim) Johanna GORMAN Father: David GORMAN (Born Limerick, Ireland) Mother: Mary McNAMARA (Born Clare, Ireland) Mary Beatrice LEECH Father: Benjamin LEECH (Born Norfolk, England) Mother: Mary LAWLESS (Born Ireland) Esther Louisa BIDSTRUP Father: Niels BIDSTRUP (Born Denmark) Mother: Esther HOUNSOM (Born Sussex, England) Mary Sarah STRAW Father: Thomas STRAW (Born London, England) Mother: Emily OSBORN (Born Horncastle, England)

Here are a few Wonthaggi deaths. Wendy DEATHS - WONTHAGGI - 1936 (IP) Maisie FORSYTH (Born Darvel, Scotland) Parents: Thomas McCLYMON Aand Elizabeth HAMILTON Noreen Mary SHEEHAN (Born Wonthaggi, Vic) Parents: Richard Joseph SHEEHAN and Mary Genevieve BAUER Jack Melford DONOGHUE (Born Wonthaggi, Vic) Parents: Peter DONOGHUE and Maud AVAGE Jean McBRIDE (Born Dunbar, Scotland) Parents: Robert McBRIDE and Jean PENN

Records show parents given names only (no maiden name of mother or where born). I am happy to provide more details if you think one of these belongs to you. Wendy CHRISTENINGS - ST JAMES C OF E MELBOURNE - MARCH 1844 (IT) William WATTS Sarah and Elizabeth NICHOLSON Sydney JOHNSTON John MUNRO Marion CUNNINGHAM Frances McCARTHY Ann COOK Mary Ann McISAY Robert HARDING Eliza Ann ELSEY Mary AUSTEN William and Henry JAMES Sarah Ann JAMES John MILLER