Carmel I agree with Kerry, Waterloo is the Barwidgee Creek area. There was a sign erected some years ago identifying Waterloo. Some of my lot were from Waterloo (the Gunson line) Some of the births are registered in Yackandandah, some in Myrtleford and only the last three children do you find on the birth certificate the place as Waterloo. ian payne

Dear List, Thank you to all those that offered to check the Burke Museum for me in respect of availability of the books. Given the price, which I believe is $60, unfortunately the budget for things genealogical is a bit thin at the moment. I am trying to finish off my Mother's fathers family, Fogarty's (from good Irish Catholic stock, hence many many children) and saving to go for two months in England, Scotland and Ireland in October/Nov, wandering around graveyards and churches. It may have to wait until my next months allowance comes through. The response is much appreciated, and if there are none left, it will be my fault. Re the Football, just glad to see that the Wilberforces obviously opted for the more "genteel" sports. They must have done some mining during the football season. Happy Belated Birthday to Denise, and again many thanks for the OMA snippets. Carol Dale Researching the Cricketing Wilberforce's and the very Elusive and reclusive Prismalls.

1.9.83 Mrs Cairns of Dunbulbalance has a barndoor fowl blessed with 4 legs and three distinct tails. - Wanted a girl about 15 to do light housework Apply Mrs Mackay The Grange Everton. 4.9.83 - John Pettie Kyle 19 years died at dad's house Loch St West Beechworth PPPPPP - do you have the obit? Father brothers and sisters mentioned -was mother dead? -

Mel, I think you probably should speak/email with Maureen De Bolfo. She was on the list for a couple of years. Not now. I think I have the story right when I saw one James and Agnes children Emma married Mick Dougherty the famous coach driver for Crawford & co. Maureen chasing his life and finding lots on the Jeffs. There is a grave in Beechworth in need of a lot of repair, which I saw last year, not far from the Rotunda. The Jeffs lived in John St. In the past I've posted to the list a bit of material on the Jeffs, so a search over the past few years may help you, but other than that if you like I will forward your email to Maureen I'll dig up the Fisho ad for you soon. Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mel Parker" <melparker@dodo.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [HC] OMA - JEFFS > Hi Denise and Elaine, > > Denise - Congrats on your enthusiasm in this OMA project! > > Anything further on this Jeff? > > Classifieds > Jeffs - fresh fish on certain days. >

Thanks Ray, I know about them, having spoken with the descendants themselves several times. Emma's children all had very interesting lives. Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan" <joanmck@cv.quik.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 9:40 PM Subject: [HC] The friendship that destroyed Ned Kelly. > Hi Denise, > There are a couple of references in this book, by Ian Jones, to your Hiram Crawford and his daughter Emma. > If you would like, I can post them for you. > Cheers Ray. > >

----- Original Message ----- From: Joan <joanmck@cv.quik.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 9:40 PM Subject: [HC] The friendship that destroyed Ned Kelly. > Hi Denise, > There are a couple of references in this book, by Ian Jones, to your Hiram Crawford and his daughter Emma. > If you would like, I can post them for you. > Cheers Ray. > >

----- Original Message ----- From: Joan <joanmck@cv.quik.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [HC] OMA - Elizabeth J. Porter. > Thanks Denise, > Daughter of Enoch Porter. > Cheers Ray. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Denise <denisem@powerup.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 11:15 PM > Subject: [HC] OMA > > > > 18.8.1883 > > > > Miss Mathieson leaves Hurdle Flat as assistant teacher for 9 - 10 years > and heads for Bright. She was given an evening by the locals, music, > dancing, address to Miss Mathieson - presentation of ink stand and Bible > mounted in gold with an Egyptian lion. > > Thomas Allot sang, > > Mr Wiseman sang, something about an old arm chair stuffed with bank notes > > Bridget O'Sullivan then Julia O'S. M Chappell gave a recitation,and a > young son of Mr. O'Sullivan another recitation "The Burial of Sir John > Moore" to the credit of Mr. McAliece pupil teacher Sate school Hurdle Flat.- > > - > > Winners at Amsterdam Exhibition Awards included locals - > > George Lyon Spring Ck Brewery - silver for cordials. > > Gold for wines to - G S Smith All Saints Wahgunyah, F J Fallon Albury, > > Silver to Hugh Fraser Olive Hill Vineyard Brown's Plains, G F Morris > Fairfield Vineyard Brown's Plains, F Grosse Toronga Vineyard Wahgunyah. > > - > > Bicycle club in Beechworth, newly formed. > > - > > John McGee 318 acres between Kinchington's Ck and J L Wilberforce's > holding Bruarong, - recommended. > > - > > 21.8.83 > > License not granted (land) > > Simon Reinhold 20 a Baranduda (just in case Chris) > > - > > Crown Land sales at Omeo- > > Hinnomunjie - George Condon Lot 1 £200; Lot 2 A Huggins 16/6/- > > Benambra - Lots 3 4 and 5, A Whyte, > > Lots 6 to 15 P Reid > > Village of Dargo - Lots 16 -21 H Foster > > Country lot parish of Guttamurrah Lot 22 C Pendergast. > > - > > Annie Smith aged 19 was brought into the Albury Hospital by the Germanton > police supposed to be suffering from opium poisoning. In a comatose state > and Dr. Andrews had difficulty in bringing her around. > > - > > A lady from Barnawartha headed to the Benevolent Asylum in Beechworth - > aged 111 years. > > - > > Ovens Benevolent Asylum July contributions > > Beechworth Shire - > > F Hollister gave 3/- and unbeknownst to him Mrs. F H gave 3/- > > John Milne 5/- > > David McIntosh > > J L Wilberforce > > James Waters > > - > > Classifieds > > Jeffs - fresh fish on certain days. > > - > > Does this mean Chris and Merren are connected? > > 18.8.1883 > > At Hillsborough, on the 18th July, by the Rev. J. G. Mackie, David > Henry Ross, of Cudgewa, Upper Murray, to Mary Ann, only daughter of the late > Arthur Welshman, Osborne's Flat, Yackandandah. > > > > > > - > > Amusement at Beechworth Police Court. Wunghnu is a town to which a man > named Mann was remanded on a charge of wilfully setting fire to the Bible > Christian Church at Youanmite. Sgt Lynch pronouncing it "Winya" the > presiding magistrate not having heard it before asked him to spell it. This > question was a poser and several attempts were made without success until > Const. King came to the rescue and supplied the Bench with the requisite > information.. > > On LYnch's application the Mann man was remanded to appear at Wunghnu on > the 30th > > - > > P Moore assistant teacher Beechworth moving to Emu Creek School near > Benalla of which Mr. James F Kelly (formerly of the Melbourne road School) > was head teacher for some time past. Mr. Kelly resigned his position as > state school teacher. He had 'ably conducted' the Rothesay school. He is > entering into soft goods business. > > - > > The following is a marriage notice. For Brian, enjoy, for those with the > BDM cd, please note that the paper reads 1880 as year of marriage although > it is in 1883 paper. > > > > On the 17th February, 1880, at the Weslyan Parsonage, Albury, William > Morrison, to Louisa Ann, widow of the late Arthur James McConnell, of Browns > Plains, and eldest daughter of the late Levi Lefoe, Hurdle Flat. "Albury > Banner" please copy. > > - > > Beechworth football team taken to play Chiltern COURTESY of Crawford and > Co. > > Kennedy Moore Nolan Veitch Tood Rundle McEvoy Warden Bullen Clifford, > Ansell, Telford, Ingram, Allan, Dryburgh, Kyle (2) Lawrance Pattison Bray > and Burke. > > Chiltern - S Travers , Beech, Dalgleish, Donaldson,Fairley, Graham > Henderson Irvine Mackay Martin 92) Martyn McIntyre Nicholls Sammons Schmack > Travers and Wappett. > > - > > 28.8.83 > > Licenses approved. > > Martin Maloney 100 ac Wooragee > > Elizabeth J Porter 298 acres Oxley > > Wm J Meade 319 Cobungra > > Cornelius Wilson 174 ditto > > Arthur H HIll 120 a Tintaldra > > Thos Coulstock 20 a Hinnomunjie > > > > > >

----- Original Message ----- From: Joan <joanmck@cv.quik.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 9:08 PM Subject: Re: [HC] third Cemetery > Hi Denise, > Clear as mud. > Cheers Ray. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Denise <denisem@powerup.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 9:48 PM > Subject: Re: [HC] third Cemetery > > > > Ray, the map shows it to be next to, close to, near, or - under the > > Woolshed Cabins as you turn the corner into the road to Eldorado from the > > Chiltern road. If you get to the sewerage ponds, you've gone too far and > on > > the wrong side of the road. > > How's that for a mud map? > > d > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Joan" <joanmck@cv.quik.com.au> > > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 9:39 PM > > Subject: Re: [HC] third Cemetery > > > > > > > Denise, > > > I hope to be in that area either this week or next so will > have > > a > > > check on what is there. > > > Cheers Ray. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Denise <denisem@powerup.com.au> > > > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 5:11 PM > > > Subject: Re: [HC] third Cemetery > > > > > > > > > > Ray - looking at my mining map of B/worth area I see an old grave yard > > on > > > > the Beechworth Chiltern road near Woolshed Falls. > > > > > > > > Denise > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> > > > > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 5:04 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [HC] third Cemetery > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ray, finally I've found time to reply - (actually found the > various > > > > > emails on the subject in my box forgotten about) (sorry) > > > > > After finding some two or three references to this cemetery in the > OMA > > > > over > > > > > a period, I asked Judy Douthie if she knew anything. Sure enough > > super > > > > > sluth got on the case and dug around. Thanks to Ian S. and Judy. > I > > > am > > > > > the one who has been slack in replying, for Ian and Judy gave me the > > > info > > > > a > > > > > couple of weeks ago. -- Apart from two Drs. being buried there, > > there > > > > are > > > > > no burial records for the third found cemetery in Beechworth and > that > > > it > > > > > actually was the first cemetery in town, prior to Loch St. Between > > 20 > > > > and > > > > > 30 people are buried there, and the timeframe was between Sept 52 > and > > > July > > > > > 53. > > > > > It is/was in Albert Road towards the road to Stanley. > > > > > > > > > > Your missing rellie must be in Beechworth #3 (present one) going by > > your > > > > > time frame, if buried in B/worth at all. > > > > > > > > > > Denise > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Joan" <joanmck@cv.quik.com.au> > > > > > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 9:00 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [HC] third Cemetery > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Denise, > > > > > > When did the third cemetery close? > > > > > > My "missing" relie died in 1859, supposedly buried in the "old" > > > > cemetery, > > > > > > Camp Street, Cnr. Loch Street, > > > > > > and later removed to the new cemetery. Dates make this a bit hard > to > > > > > believe > > > > > > as contracts were let in 1857 > > > > > > for the exhumation and transfer to the new cemetery, OMA > > > > > > If this is correct then you would not think they would still be > > doing > > > > > > burials at the same time they were doing > > > > > > exhumations, would you. > > > > > > I'll have to keep looking.Thanks for all the interesting info. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers Ray > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hi Denise, There are a couple of references in this book, by Ian Jones, to your Hiram Crawford and his daughter Emma. If you would like, I can post them for you. Cheers Ray.

Thanks Denise, Daughter of Enoch Porter. Cheers Ray. ----- Original Message ----- From: Denise <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 11:15 PM Subject: [HC] OMA > 18.8.1883 > > Miss Mathieson leaves Hurdle Flat as assistant teacher for 9 - 10 years and heads for Bright. She was given an evening by the locals, music, dancing, address to Miss Mathieson - presentation of ink stand and Bible mounted in gold with an Egyptian lion. > Thomas Allot sang, > Mr Wiseman sang, something about an old arm chair stuffed with bank notes > Bridget O'Sullivan then Julia O'S. M Chappell gave a recitation,and a young son of Mr. O'Sullivan another recitation "The Burial of Sir John Moore" to the credit of Mr. McAliece pupil teacher Sate school Hurdle Flat.- > - > Winners at Amsterdam Exhibition Awards included locals - > George Lyon Spring Ck Brewery - silver for cordials. > Gold for wines to - G S Smith All Saints Wahgunyah, F J Fallon Albury, > Silver to Hugh Fraser Olive Hill Vineyard Brown's Plains, G F Morris Fairfield Vineyard Brown's Plains, F Grosse Toronga Vineyard Wahgunyah. > - > Bicycle club in Beechworth, newly formed. > - > John McGee 318 acres between Kinchington's Ck and J L Wilberforce's holding Bruarong, - recommended. > - > 21.8.83 > License not granted (land) > Simon Reinhold 20 a Baranduda (just in case Chris) > - > Crown Land sales at Omeo- > Hinnomunjie - George Condon Lot 1 £200; Lot 2 A Huggins 16/6/- > Benambra - Lots 3 4 and 5, A Whyte, > Lots 6 to 15 P Reid > Village of Dargo - Lots 16 -21 H Foster > Country lot parish of Guttamurrah Lot 22 C Pendergast. > - > Annie Smith aged 19 was brought into the Albury Hospital by the Germanton police supposed to be suffering from opium poisoning. In a comatose state and Dr. Andrews had difficulty in bringing her around. > - > A lady from Barnawartha headed to the Benevolent Asylum in Beechworth - aged 111 years. > - > Ovens Benevolent Asylum July contributions > Beechworth Shire - > F Hollister gave 3/- and unbeknownst to him Mrs. F H gave 3/- > John Milne 5/- > David McIntosh > J L Wilberforce > James Waters > - > Classifieds > Jeffs - fresh fish on certain days. > - > Does this mean Chris and Merren are connected? > 18.8.1883 > At Hillsborough, on the 18th July, by the Rev. J. G. Mackie, David Henry Ross, of Cudgewa, Upper Murray, to Mary Ann, only daughter of the late Arthur Welshman, Osborne's Flat, Yackandandah. > > > - > Amusement at Beechworth Police Court. Wunghnu is a town to which a man named Mann was remanded on a charge of wilfully setting fire to the Bible Christian Church at Youanmite. Sgt Lynch pronouncing it "Winya" the presiding magistrate not having heard it before asked him to spell it. This question was a poser and several attempts were made without success until Const. King came to the rescue and supplied the Bench with the requisite information.. > On LYnch's application the Mann man was remanded to appear at Wunghnu on the 30th > - > P Moore assistant teacher Beechworth moving to Emu Creek School near Benalla of which Mr. James F Kelly (formerly of the Melbourne road School) was head teacher for some time past. Mr. Kelly resigned his position as state school teacher. He had 'ably conducted' the Rothesay school. He is entering into soft goods business. > - > The following is a marriage notice. For Brian, enjoy, for those with the BDM cd, please note that the paper reads 1880 as year of marriage although it is in 1883 paper. > > On the 17th February, 1880, at the Weslyan Parsonage, Albury, William Morrison, to Louisa Ann, widow of the late Arthur James McConnell, of Browns Plains, and eldest daughter of the late Levi Lefoe, Hurdle Flat. "Albury Banner" please copy. > - > Beechworth football team taken to play Chiltern COURTESY of Crawford and Co. > Kennedy Moore Nolan Veitch Tood Rundle McEvoy Warden Bullen Clifford, Ansell, Telford, Ingram, Allan, Dryburgh, Kyle (2) Lawrance Pattison Bray and Burke. > Chiltern - S Travers , Beech, Dalgleish, Donaldson,Fairley, Graham Henderson Irvine Mackay Martin 92) Martyn McIntyre Nicholls Sammons Schmack Travers and Wappett. > - > 28.8.83 > Licenses approved. > Martin Maloney 100 ac Wooragee > Elizabeth J Porter 298 acres Oxley > Wm J Meade 319 Cobungra > Cornelius Wilson 174 ditto > Arthur H HIll 120 a Tintaldra > Thos Coulstock 20 a Hinnomunjie > >

Chris Thanks – had those details - was missing the 1C1R detail. Cheers M -----Original Message----- From: Christine [mailto:wildmob@dodo.com.au] Sent: Monday, 28 June 2004 8:14 PM To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HC] OMA - Welshman/Ross marriage Denise/Merren David Alexander Ross , the son of David & Mary Ann married Agnes Catherine (Kit) Coysh the daughter of George & Anna Elizabeth Catherine (nee Klippel). Agnes is my 1C1R Chris On Monday, June 28, 2004, at 08:16 AM, Merren Cliff wrote: > Denise > > Mary Ann is definitely one of mine and recently I have had > communications with a descendent of this pair. I am unsure of any > connection to Chris' tree. > > Cheers > > M > > -----Original Message----- > From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] > Sent: Sunday, 27 June 2004 11:15 PM > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HC] OMA > > 18.8.1883 > > Does this mean Chris and Merren are connected? > 18.8.1883 > At Hillsborough, on the 18th July, by the Rev. J. G. Mackie, David > Henry Ross, of Cudgewa, Upper Murray, to Mary Ann, only daughter of the > late Arthur Welshman, Osborne's Flat, Yackandandah. > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.709 / Virus Database: 465 - Release Date: 22/06/2004 > > > --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.709 / Virus Database: 465 - Release Date: 22/06/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.709 / Virus Database: 465 - Release Date: 22/06/2004

Hi Denise, Clear as mud. Cheers Ray. ----- Original Message ----- From: Denise <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 9:48 PM Subject: Re: [HC] third Cemetery > Ray, the map shows it to be next to, close to, near, or - under the > Woolshed Cabins as you turn the corner into the road to Eldorado from the > Chiltern road. If you get to the sewerage ponds, you've gone too far and on > the wrong side of the road. > How's that for a mud map? > d > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joan" <joanmck@cv.quik.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 9:39 PM > Subject: Re: [HC] third Cemetery > > > > Denise, > > I hope to be in that area either this week or next so will have > a > > check on what is there. > > Cheers Ray. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Denise <denisem@powerup.com.au> > > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 5:11 PM > > Subject: Re: [HC] third Cemetery > > > > > > > Ray - looking at my mining map of B/worth area I see an old grave yard > on > > > the Beechworth Chiltern road near Woolshed Falls. > > > > > > Denise > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> > > > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 5:04 PM > > > Subject: Re: [HC] third Cemetery > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ray, finally I've found time to reply - (actually found the various > > > > emails on the subject in my box forgotten about) (sorry) > > > > After finding some two or three references to this cemetery in the OMA > > > over > > > > a period, I asked Judy Douthie if she knew anything. Sure enough > super > > > > sluth got on the case and dug around. Thanks to Ian S. and Judy. I > > am > > > > the one who has been slack in replying, for Ian and Judy gave me the > > info > > > a > > > > couple of weeks ago. -- Apart from two Drs. being buried there, > there > > > are > > > > no burial records for the third found cemetery in Beechworth and that > > it > > > > actually was the first cemetery in town, prior to Loch St. Between > 20 > > > and > > > > 30 people are buried there, and the timeframe was between Sept 52 and > > July > > > > 53. > > > > It is/was in Albert Road towards the road to Stanley. > > > > > > > > Your missing rellie must be in Beechworth #3 (present one) going by > your > > > > time frame, if buried in B/worth at all. > > > > > > > > Denise > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Joan" <joanmck@cv.quik.com.au> > > > > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 9:00 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [HC] third Cemetery > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Denise, > > > > > When did the third cemetery close? > > > > > My "missing" relie died in 1859, supposedly buried in the "old" > > > cemetery, > > > > > Camp Street, Cnr. Loch Street, > > > > > and later removed to the new cemetery. Dates make this a bit hard to > > > > believe > > > > > as contracts were let in 1857 > > > > > for the exhumation and transfer to the new cemetery, OMA > > > > > If this is correct then you would not think they would still be > doing > > > > > burials at the same time they were doing > > > > > exhumations, would you. > > > > > I'll have to keep looking.Thanks for all the interesting info. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers Ray > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hi Denise and Elaine, Denise - Congrats on your enthusiasm in this OMA project! Anything further on this Jeff? Classifieds Jeffs - fresh fish on certain days. I'm researching descendants of James and Agnes JEFFS. Regards, Mel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 11:15 PM Subject: [HC] OMA 18.8.1883 Miss Mathieson leaves Hurdle Flat as assistant teacher for 9 - 10 years and heads for Bright. She was given an evening by the locals, music, dancing, address to Miss Mathieson - presentation of ink stand and Bible mounted in gold with an Egyptian lion. Thomas Allot sang, Mr Wiseman sang, something about an old arm chair stuffed with bank notes Bridget O'Sullivan then Julia O'S. M Chappell gave a recitation,and a young son of Mr. O'Sullivan another recitation "The Burial of Sir John Moore" to the credit of Mr. McAliece pupil teacher Sate school Hurdle Flat.- - Winners at Amsterdam Exhibition Awards included locals - George Lyon Spring Ck Brewery - silver for cordials. Gold for wines to - G S Smith All Saints Wahgunyah, F J Fallon Albury, Silver to Hugh Fraser Olive Hill Vineyard Brown's Plains, G F Morris Fairfield Vineyard Brown's Plains, F Grosse Toronga Vineyard Wahgunyah. - Bicycle club in Beechworth, newly formed. - John McGee 318 acres between Kinchington's Ck and J L Wilberforce's holding Bruarong, - recommended. - 21.8.83 License not granted (land) Simon Reinhold 20 a Baranduda (just in case Chris) - Crown Land sales at Omeo- Hinnomunjie - George Condon Lot 1 £200; Lot 2 A Huggins 16/6/- Benambra - Lots 3 4 and 5, A Whyte, Lots 6 to 15 P Reid Village of Dargo - Lots 16 -21 H Foster Country lot parish of Guttamurrah Lot 22 C Pendergast. - Annie Smith aged 19 was brought into the Albury Hospital by the Germanton police supposed to be suffering from opium poisoning. In a comatose state and Dr. Andrews had difficulty in bringing her around. - A lady from Barnawartha headed to the Benevolent Asylum in Beechworth - aged 111 years. - Ovens Benevolent Asylum July contributions Beechworth Shire - F Hollister gave 3/- and unbeknownst to him Mrs. F H gave 3/- John Milne 5/- David McIntosh J L Wilberforce James Waters - Classifieds Jeffs - fresh fish on certain days. - Does this mean Chris and Merren are connected? 18.8.1883 At Hillsborough, on the 18th July, by the Rev. J. G. Mackie, David Henry Ross, of Cudgewa, Upper Murray, to Mary Ann, only daughter of the late Arthur Welshman, Osborne's Flat, Yackandandah. - Amusement at Beechworth Police Court. Wunghnu is a town to which a man named Mann was remanded on a charge of wilfully setting fire to the Bible Christian Church at Youanmite. Sgt Lynch pronouncing it "Winya" the presiding magistrate not having heard it before asked him to spell it. This question was a poser and several attempts were made without success until Const. King came to the rescue and supplied the Bench with the requisite information.. On LYnch's application the Mann man was remanded to appear at Wunghnu on the 30th - P Moore assistant teacher Beechworth moving to Emu Creek School near Benalla of which Mr. James F Kelly (formerly of the Melbourne road School) was head teacher for some time past. Mr. Kelly resigned his position as state school teacher. He had 'ably conducted' the Rothesay school. He is entering into soft goods business. - The following is a marriage notice. For Brian, enjoy, for those with the BDM cd, please note that the paper reads 1880 as year of marriage although it is in 1883 paper. On the 17th February, 1880, at the Weslyan Parsonage, Albury, William Morrison, to Louisa Ann, widow of the late Arthur James McConnell, of Browns Plains, and eldest daughter of the late Levi Lefoe, Hurdle Flat. "Albury Banner" please copy. - Beechworth football team taken to play Chiltern COURTESY of Crawford and Co. Kennedy Moore Nolan Veitch Tood Rundle McEvoy Warden Bullen Clifford, Ansell, Telford, Ingram, Allan, Dryburgh, Kyle (2) Lawrance Pattison Bray and Burke. Chiltern - S Travers , Beech, Dalgleish, Donaldson,Fairley, Graham Henderson Irvine Mackay Martin 92) Martyn McIntyre Nicholls Sammons Schmack Travers and Wappett. - 28.8.83 Licenses approved. Martin Maloney 100 ac Wooragee Elizabeth J Porter 298 acres Oxley Wm J Meade 319 Cobungra Cornelius Wilson 174 ditto Arthur H HIll 120 a Tintaldra Thos Coulstock 20 a Hinnomunjie

Hi List, The graveyard Ray mentions may be the old Woolshed Cemetary. I was looking for it earlier as one of my rellies was supposedly buried there. There are now holiday cottages on the site. I don't know if the remains were relocated before the cottages were built on top. This information was provided by the Burke Museum. Ray - looking at my mining map of B/worth area I see an old grave yard on the Beechworth Chiltern road near Woolshed Falls.

Denise/Merren David Alexander Ross , the son of David & Mary Ann married Agnes Catherine (Kit) Coysh the daughter of George & Anna Elizabeth Catherine (nee Klippel). Agnes is my 1C1R Chris On Monday, June 28, 2004, at 08:16 AM, Merren Cliff wrote: > Denise > > Mary Ann is definitely one of mine and recently I have had > communications with a descendent of this pair. I am unsure of any > connection to Chris' tree. > > Cheers > > M > > -----Original Message----- > From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] > Sent: Sunday, 27 June 2004 11:15 PM > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HC] OMA > > 18.8.1883 > > Does this mean Chris and Merren are connected? > 18.8.1883 > At Hillsborough, on the 18th July, by the Rev. J. G. Mackie, David > Henry Ross, of Cudgewa, Upper Murray, to Mary Ann, only daughter of the > late Arthur Welshman, Osborne's Flat, Yackandandah. > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.709 / Virus Database: 465 - Release Date: 22/06/2004 > > >

Dear Carol, I'm in Wang at the moment and will probably be going to Beechworth sometime next week. I'll look it up for you if you like. Helen Kana Did anybody manage to buy the above book. I wrote to the Burke Museum asking how to purchase it, but received no reply. Would appreciate information about whether it is still available and cost. Only asking as the Burke Museum dont seem to want to reply. Carol Dale

Brain and Muscle - during the past few days we have had a practical exemplification of the fact that B/worth can produce young men possessed of both brain and muscular power in a high degree. On Friday Mr I A Isaacs son of Mr. Isaacs of Ford street and who was educated in the town made his debut as a barrister in the Beechworth court of General Sessions; he having been retained with Mr F Brown to appear in support of a motion to admit a claim made by the Norwich Union Insurance Co upon the insolvent estate of Mr. E S Harris which was granted by the judge after hearing arguments reported in another column. Mr. Isaacs gives great promise of becoming a leading member of his profession; and his appearance in wig and gown on Friday should have the effect of stimulating other young men in the town to follow in his footsteps and persevere as he has done in what ever walk in life they may select. ----- Original Message ----- From: "MM" <elthamlax@techinfo.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [HC] OMA 11.8.83 - ISAACS > Only if it is not too much for you to type. > Date was 11th August, 1883. > Thank you, > Mary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 8:29 PM > Subject: Re: [HC] OMA 11.8.83 - ISAACS > > > > News item - do you want it in full Mary? Just send back the date. > > Denise > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "MM" <elthamlax@techinfo.com.au> > > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 7:39 PM > > Subject: Re: [HC] OMA 11.8.83 - ISAACS > > > > > > > Hello Denise > > > > > > Was this an advertisement or a news item? > > > Thankyou, > > > Mary of Melbourne > > > > > > > 11.8.83 > > > > Isaac Isaacs made his debut in town as a barrister. > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Thanks again Denise for the Ellen snippet really appreciated Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 9:33 PM Subject: [HC] OMA 3 Mile Private School - run by Miss Lack. Names - Miss Paton Miss Fanny Lack Messrs Lack and Sewell Miss Pund Miss Hartmann Miss Gatehouse Miss Louisa Pund Polly Juggernaut Emma Ellen Henry Gatehouse list of prize winners Emily Varley Mary Hartmann Elizabeth Ellen Fred Hahne Albert Marecham Richard Schmidt Catherine Pyle Ada Schmidt John Warr Phoebe Dettman Catherine Pyle John Warr James Pyle James Guthrie Henry Dettman James Varley Doretta Dettman John Pyle Edgar Longmore Hilda Lack Hector Schmidt Thomas Pyle. - 16.8.83 Mail contract To and from Wang Railway Station and Post Office as often as required Charles Stone £25 pyear - Dark River Goldfield is growing. Hotels and shops opening. Road making being discussed. Councils debating on pros and cons. - Butcher shop and store already at Mascotte. Mrs Welsh and her tow daughters plus one other are only women at the rush. Larsens Creek commonly called Lawson's Ck - the following reefs Mitta Mitta Co. Mountain Gift, Kangaroo Reef. Green's Creek - Sperm Whale, Clara, Golden Eagle, Morning Star, Bruce, Royal Park and Golden Crown reefs. All within 2 miles of on another. -

Thank you again Denise.- 'Amusement at Beechworth Police Court' I can imagine the difficulties faced with his Irish accent. What was the headline Denise? "Irish saved by Kings English" -----Original Message----- From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] Sent: Sunday, 27 June 2004 11:15 PM To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HC] OMA 18.8.1883 Miss Mathieson leaves Hurdle Flat as assistant teacher for 9 - 10 years and heads for Bright. She was given an evening by the locals, music, dancing, address to Miss Mathieson - presentation of ink stand and Bible mounted in gold with an Egyptian lion. Thomas Allot sang, Mr Wiseman sang, something about an old arm chair stuffed with bank notes Bridget O'Sullivan then Julia O'S. M Chappell gave a recitation,and a young son of Mr. O'Sullivan another recitation "The Burial of Sir John Moore" to the credit of Mr. McAliece pupil teacher Sate school Hurdle Flat.- - Winners at Amsterdam Exhibition Awards included locals - George Lyon Spring Ck Brewery - silver for cordials. Gold for wines to - G S Smith All Saints Wahgunyah, F J Fallon Albury, Silver to Hugh Fraser Olive Hill Vineyard Brown's Plains, G F Morris Fairfield Vineyard Brown's Plains, F Grosse Toronga Vineyard Wahgunyah. - Bicycle club in Beechworth, newly formed. - John McGee 318 acres between Kinchington's Ck and J L Wilberforce's holding Bruarong, - recommended. - 21.8.83 License not granted (land) Simon Reinhold 20 a Baranduda (just in case Chris) - Crown Land sales at Omeo- Hinnomunjie - George Condon Lot 1 £200; Lot 2 A Huggins 16/6/- Benambra - Lots 3 4 and 5, A Whyte, Lots 6 to 15 P Reid Village of Dargo - Lots 16 -21 H Foster Country lot parish of Guttamurrah Lot 22 C Pendergast. - Annie Smith aged 19 was brought into the Albury Hospital by the Germanton police supposed to be suffering from opium poisoning. In a comatose state and Dr. Andrews had difficulty in bringing her around. - A lady from Barnawartha headed to the Benevolent Asylum in Beechworth - aged 111 years. - Ovens Benevolent Asylum July contributions Beechworth Shire - F Hollister gave 3/- and unbeknownst to him Mrs. F H gave 3/- John Milne 5/- David McIntosh J L Wilberforce James Waters - Classifieds Jeffs - fresh fish on certain days. - Does this mean Chris and Merren are connected? 18.8.1883 At Hillsborough, on the 18th July, by the Rev. J. G. Mackie, David Henry Ross, of Cudgewa, Upper Murray, to Mary Ann, only daughter of the late Arthur Welshman, Osborne's Flat, Yackandandah. - Amusement at Beechworth Police Court. Wunghnu is a town to which a man named Mann was remanded on a charge of wilfully setting fire to the Bible Christian Church at Youanmite. Sgt Lynch pronouncing it "Winya" the presiding magistrate not having heard it before asked him to spell it. This question was a poser and several attempts were made without success until Const. King came to the rescue and supplied the Bench with the requisite information.. On LYnch's application the Mann man was remanded to appear at Wunghnu on the 30th - P Moore assistant teacher Beechworth moving to Emu Creek School near Benalla of which Mr. James F Kelly (formerly of the Melbourne road School) was head teacher for some time past. Mr. Kelly resigned his position as state school teacher. He had 'ably conducted' the Rothesay school. He is entering into soft goods business. - The following is a marriage notice. For Brian, enjoy, for those with the BDM cd, please note that the paper reads 1880 as year of marriage although it is in 1883 paper. On the 17th February, 1880, at the Weslyan Parsonage, Albury, William Morrison, to Louisa Ann, widow of the late Arthur James McConnell, of Browns Plains, and eldest daughter of the late Levi Lefoe, Hurdle Flat. "Albury Banner" please copy. - Beechworth football team taken to play Chiltern COURTESY of Crawford and Co. Kennedy Moore Nolan Veitch Tood Rundle McEvoy Warden Bullen Clifford, Ansell, Telford, Ingram, Allan, Dryburgh, Kyle (2) Lawrance Pattison Bray and Burke. Chiltern - S Travers , Beech, Dalgleish, Donaldson,Fairley, Graham Henderson Irvine Mackay Martin 92) Martyn McIntyre Nicholls Sammons Schmack Travers and Wappett. - 28.8.83 Licenses approved. Martin Maloney 100 ac Wooragee Elizabeth J Porter 298 acres Oxley Wm J Meade 319 Cobungra Cornelius Wilson 174 ditto Arthur H HIll 120 a Tintaldra Thos Coulstock 20 a Hinnomunjie

Only if it is not too much for you to type. Date was 11th August, 1883. Thank you, Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [HC] OMA 11.8.83 - ISAACS > News item - do you want it in full Mary? Just send back the date. > Denise > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MM" <elthamlax@techinfo.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 7:39 PM > Subject: Re: [HC] OMA 11.8.83 - ISAACS > > > > Hello Denise > > > > Was this an advertisement or a news item? > > Thankyou, > > Mary of Melbourne > > > > > 11.8.83 > > > Isaac Isaacs made his debut in town as a barrister. > > > - > > > > > > >