Denise, Maybe, if he worked for the Agriculture Dept, he lived in one of the residences provided. For example, Ellinbank (not far from here) is run by the Ag Dept, and includes many people living on site, as it is a research farm. Maybe it was a similiar set up over there. (My husband works for the Ag Dept!) Ronda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Thanks Ronda > Merren hi. The few years in WA were/are a complete mystery. I must admit > I've not chased this grandfather , been busy over the past 6 years with his > own father, Hiram. > Grandfather Walter from BDMs shows he was in Beechworth in 1900 > (registration of birth in B/worth, so probably still down Carbor-Everton way > living) and then a year later in W.A. where my aunt was born followed by my > mother. > I haven't bothered to get mum's birth certificate until now, as there has > been plenty to do, but now that Hiram's finished I will now chase Walter. > Ronda's find at the PROV is a godsend. I see where he worked/lived in the > Waroona / Hamel area of W.A. and was back in Melbourne by Jan 1906 - but > still over in W.A. in October 1905. I thank Ronda for this - it's great. > > Why they went, what Wally did, I've no idea, altho one letter was written > from Agricultural Dept. Hamel W.A. Strange to head a letter with your work > address and not your home address, given the reason for writing in the first > place. > > Was he attracted like 'so many of the others", to the fields, --- I don't > know. > > Half suspect and it gets stronger each day, that there was a parent/child > problem. Hiram thought Wally lazy, wouldn't work were his words, while > Wally relied on Hiram to take care of his 'obligations'. > > And from the small pieces my mother said to me when I WAS listening, Wally > was not the father we all dream about. > > D > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Merren Cliff" <mcliff@bigpond.net.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 12:46 PM > Subject: RE: [HC] Thanks Ronda > > > > Denise > > > > Out of curiosity when was he in WA. I believe Hance McGowan went there > > circa Jun 1895 - I believe this based on some information in his > > obituary- "Like so many others he was attracted to the golden prospects > > of Western Australia, proceeding thither at the beginning of last > > winter. There he suffered great privations, and contracted an illness > > from which he never recovered" - on his death 25/1/1896 in Hillsborough. > > Wondered if your grandfather was one of the "many others" > > > > Cheers > > > > M > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] > > Sent: Wednesday, 7 July 2004 11:01 PM > > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [HC] Thanks Ronda > > > > > > I hope this makes it thru the clogged mail at rootsweb and to the list. > > > > Many thanks Ronda for the copies sent in the mail. > > > > Fortunately it told me two or three new things about grandfather. One, > > the timeframe for the arrival back in Victoria, and most importantly > > where they were in W.A. > > > > Another interesting item was the address at top of one letter > > 'Agricultural Department" Hamel, W.A. Now what on earth was he doing > > there! > > > > This is the best I've ever had on him, so thanks very much Ronda. > > regards > > Denise > > > > --- > > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.716 / Virus Database: 472 - Release Date: 5/07/2004 > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.716 / Virus Database: 472 - Release Date: 5/07/2004 > > > > >

Merren hi. The few years in WA were/are a complete mystery. I must admit I've not chased this grandfather , been busy over the past 6 years with his own father, Hiram. Grandfather Walter from BDMs shows he was in Beechworth in 1900 (registration of birth in B/worth, so probably still down Carbor-Everton way living) and then a year later in W.A. where my aunt was born followed by my mother. I haven't bothered to get mum's birth certificate until now, as there has been plenty to do, but now that Hiram's finished I will now chase Walter. Ronda's find at the PROV is a godsend. I see where he worked/lived in the Waroona / Hamel area of W.A. and was back in Melbourne by Jan 1906 - but still over in W.A. in October 1905. I thank Ronda for this - it's great. Why they went, what Wally did, I've no idea, altho one letter was written from Agricultural Dept. Hamel W.A. Strange to head a letter with your work address and not your home address, given the reason for writing in the first place. Was he attracted like 'so many of the others", to the fields, --- I don't know. Half suspect and it gets stronger each day, that there was a parent/child problem. Hiram thought Wally lazy, wouldn't work were his words, while Wally relied on Hiram to take care of his 'obligations'. And from the small pieces my mother said to me when I WAS listening, Wally was not the father we all dream about. D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Merren Cliff" <mcliff@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 12:46 PM Subject: RE: [HC] Thanks Ronda > Denise > > Out of curiosity when was he in WA. I believe Hance McGowan went there > circa Jun 1895 - I believe this based on some information in his > obituary- "Like so many others he was attracted to the golden prospects > of Western Australia, proceeding thither at the beginning of last > winter. There he suffered great privations, and contracted an illness > from which he never recovered" - on his death 25/1/1896 in Hillsborough. > Wondered if your grandfather was one of the "many others" > > Cheers > > M > > -----Original Message----- > From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] > Sent: Wednesday, 7 July 2004 11:01 PM > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HC] Thanks Ronda > > > I hope this makes it thru the clogged mail at rootsweb and to the list. > > Many thanks Ronda for the copies sent in the mail. > > Fortunately it told me two or three new things about grandfather. One, > the timeframe for the arrival back in Victoria, and most importantly > where they were in W.A. > > Another interesting item was the address at top of one letter > 'Agricultural Department" Hamel, W.A. Now what on earth was he doing > there! > > This is the best I've ever had on him, so thanks very much Ronda. > regards > Denise > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.716 / Virus Database: 472 - Release Date: 5/07/2004 > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.716 / Virus Database: 472 - Release Date: 5/07/2004 > >

Hi Merren, Joan McKibbin (dec. Nov 2003) gave me William Blewett's bank book a couple of years ago - I am very lucky. The bank book has all the transactions written in by hand 1883 - 1896. It shows where he got out the 3 quid to pay J.H.Meek, the presbyterian minister, when he married Alice Waterson in August 1894. Ronda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Merren Cliff" <mcliff@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 11:47 AM Subject: RE: [HC] William Blewett bank transactions - McGowan > Hi Ronda > > Wish I knew why he was paying Hance that kind of money - it seems an > awful lot. Anyway at least that places Hance in the area at that time. > > By the way, how did you get this info? Old cheque book or some other > source of bank transactions? > > Cheers > > > Merren > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ronda Shambrook [mailto:shambrookdr@dcsi.net.au] > Sent: Sunday, 4 July 2004 10:12 PM > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HC] William Blewett bank transactions > > William Blewett Hillsborough 1883-1896 The Bank of Austalasia > Yackandandah Branch > > December 23rd 1884 - banked a cheque for 15 pounds 19/6 from Bigelow > > July 19th 1887 - paid Hans McGowan 70 pounds 1/- > > June 1st 1890 - paid Bigelow 5 pounds > > > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.716 / Virus Database: 472 - Release Date: 5/07/2004 > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.716 / Virus Database: 472 - Release Date: 5/07/2004 > >

Denise Out of curiosity when was he in WA. I believe Hance McGowan went there circa Jun 1895 - I believe this based on some information in his obituary- "Like so many others he was attracted to the golden prospects of Western Australia, proceeding thither at the beginning of last winter. There he suffered great privations, and contracted an illness from which he never recovered" - on his death 25/1/1896 in Hillsborough. Wondered if your grandfather was one of the "many others" Cheers M -----Original Message----- From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, 7 July 2004 11:01 PM To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HC] Thanks Ronda I hope this makes it thru the clogged mail at rootsweb and to the list. Many thanks Ronda for the copies sent in the mail. Fortunately it told me two or three new things about grandfather. One, the timeframe for the arrival back in Victoria, and most importantly where they were in W.A. Another interesting item was the address at top of one letter 'Agricultural Department" Hamel, W.A. Now what on earth was he doing there! This is the best I've ever had on him, so thanks very much Ronda. regards Denise --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.716 / Virus Database: 472 - Release Date: 5/07/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.716 / Virus Database: 472 - Release Date: 5/07/2004

Hi Ronda Wish I knew why he was paying Hance that kind of money - it seems an awful lot. Anyway at least that places Hance in the area at that time. By the way, how did you get this info? Old cheque book or some other source of bank transactions? Cheers Merren -----Original Message----- From: Ronda Shambrook [mailto:shambrookdr@dcsi.net.au] Sent: Sunday, 4 July 2004 10:12 PM To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HC] William Blewett bank transactions William Blewett Hillsborough 1883-1896 The Bank of Austalasia Yackandandah Branch December 23rd 1884 - banked a cheque for 15 pounds 19/6 from Bigelow July 19th 1887 - paid Hans McGowan 70 pounds 1/- June 1st 1890 - paid Bigelow 5 pounds --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.716 / Virus Database: 472 - Release Date: 5/07/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.716 / Virus Database: 472 - Release Date: 5/07/2004

Hi Denise Thanks for this again. Lovely to see the list working again even if it is 7 days out of date - things seem really quiet when the list is down. Cheers Merren -----Original Message----- From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] Sent: Sunday, 4 July 2004 9:11 PM To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HC] OMA Hi All, Is it a long weekend in Victoria or are you all tucked up in front of a fire? The list is so quiet. I"ve been busy on other matters these past few nights but now back to finish the last few weeks of 1883. -11.12.83 Tom Thumb was a Knight Templar. He was the shortest knight in the world - shorter even than the night of June 21. - Murmungee cricket include J E Burbank c Walter Wilberforce b Finnie A Jessop c and b Griffin E Jessop b Finnie G Calgleish run out A McLeod sub., b Finnie J Cummins sub., c Robertson, b Griffin Gillan b Finnie H Elmer not out J Bigelow sub., c Flood b Griffin Second innings (names not mentioned above) J Wilberforce Will. Wilberforce Hillsborough first innings A Welshman G Wilberforce Griffin McCarthy Flood J Finnie J Wilberforce Blewitt (no initial Blow it , sorry, got to do something while reading all this (g)) - Land Application at Tallangatta to be held 20t December - am putting these in now, just in case the results don't get into the paper before end of year. James McGill 156 acres Between Goldsworthy's and Rowley's holdings Berringa. John Mitchell 20 acres south of J Goldsworthy's holding Upper Murray Rd Berringa 13.12.1883 The railway line to Myrtleford was completed 'today'. It was officially opened by the Minister of Railways. - Licenses renewed/granted. ( liquor licenses.) George Rae Allen's Flat. A transfer of license from J M Cole to Helen McIntyre of Yack. - People selling fat cattle fat sheep fat calves fat lambs and store cattle for the Christmas trade at J H Gray & Co. 19th December O'Donnell Merriang Mc'Aliece Oxley Kelly Mitta M Reid Oxley H A Crawford Whorouly M Welsh Whorouly J Lampitt Kiewa M O'Donnell Merriang Mrs Mackay The Grange J Sutcliffe Wooragee H A Crawford Piney Ranges. Gee I wish he wouldn't do this to me, what's he been up to now. J Kendall Basin Creek G Beatty Osborne's Flat W Fisher Jnr W Henry Bowman's Forest - publican's license Wangaratta Silas Porter Royal Victoria Hotel - 15/12/83 Beechworth Police Court M and T Dodd v Patrick Reardon Fraud summons - ordered to be paid in monthly instalments of £1. - £5.3.6 John Hines v James Hamel claim of 17/6d ordered to pay John Brown charged with using obscene language in a public place was fined £10 or 3 months imprisonment - fine was NOT paid. Went away, not to far, for a Xmas holiday . - H R Tilt, Registrar of Marriages Rowan st Wangaratta. - Handicaps for the Two mile maiden at Boxing Day sports. happy to backtrack for names and distance - two days offer. Thompson, Osborne Jeffs McLean 3 Mile - Stassen Cooper Thompson Maloney Osborne Taylor. Two mile - Cooper Thompson Osborne Stassen Maloney Taylor. - Jeremiah McCormick of Greta granted hawkers and pedlars licenses - Leaving - Mr J E Burbank having disposed of his fourth share in the Jaybird Reef at the Sugarload Bowman's Forest to Jas Kyle at a satisfactory price will leave Beechworth for Queensland where he has obtained employed as an engineer. - --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.716 / Virus Database: 472 - Release Date: 5/07/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.716 / Virus Database: 472 - Release Date: 5/07/2004

Thanks again Denise Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 11:09 PM Subject: [HC] OMA 15.12.1883 Just in case PP has returned to her desk.... Beechworth SSchool again has a Xmas break up. Master C Beck who possesses a nice voice in his song "Kiss me and I'll go to sleep" elicited a storm of applause and showers of bouquets and had to reappear in response to a heartily expressed encore when he repeated the last verse. - License approved - James L Wilberforce 319 a Bruarong. - 20.12.83 A very destructive fire took place at Bowman's Forest on Tuesday afternoon. About half past one o'clock the kitchen chimney attached to the brick building occupied as a general store and dwelling house by Mr. Christopher Mummery and containing 8 rooms caught fire. Mrs. M. and her niece who were the only ones home extinguished the fire with the assistance of a nephew who noticed the blaze when passing. Two hours later when engaged in whitewashing the walls of one of the front rooms (making preparations for Christmas-tide) Mrs. M's attention was called by her niece to a strange sound in the store. Flames were bursting thru the ceiling of the storeroom at a point underneath the gutter of the double roof which was shingled. Exercising all haste Mrs. M and her two assistants go out the store books (except one) and a quantity of clothing and bedding; but so rapidly did the fire spread that nothing further was saved and the large store and its contents were soon a mass of smoking ruins. Insured in the Norwich Union Co. for £300 the stock for £800 and the household furniture for £100. Mrs M accounts for the fire by the presumption that a cinder from the burning chimney alighted on the singles unnoticed. Her husband had been absent fro the past week bringing a large flock of sheep from Albury and only learned the news of his misfortune on his arrival in B/worth on Wednesday. He estimates the loss as a serious one as he says that within the last two months he took stock and valued it at £1330 and his furniture at £250. - P Frauenfelder fined 10/- for not registering his dog/s - James Kyle wins tender for erection of a new dining hall at the Benevolent Asylum - ). - PP again, Andrew Beck is now prepared to supply his Patent Grape Crusher the most perfect hand machine yet out. Send for circular. A Beck Beechworth. PP - doesn't this follow on with some award at some show earlier in 1883? - Mel for you - D Jeffs of High St has a staunch draught horse an dray for sale. - Beechworth Grammar School sorts to celebrate breaking up for Christmas. happy to check names - 2 days. A Thompson R Hayes R Nolan Conisbee C Perry R O'Donnell T Brown H O'Brien P Goldworthy W Gammon G Perry W Foster M Sharp C Harridge A Perry J Page RClements F Brett W O'Connor F Warden R Dodd A Chenhall C Richter - Prizes present at BGS Gammon Thomas Zincke Perry Campbell Geddes Chenhall 'Donnell Foster STevens Conisbee Fox Davidson Campbell Moore Ryan Perry Baber Wertheim Harridge Fox Porter Connolly The same names over and over in various classes. - The colour of the Vict. 2d stamp has been changed. Was brown, now mauve. - Prizes for pupils at Mrs. Tanswells private school. Margaret Mackenzie Elizabeth Tanswell Fanny Bacon Oliver Jones Miss Hines George Hines John Hines Annie Armstrong. -= Probate of the will of Mrs. Ellen Kelly late of Everton, £735. - Commercial Hotel Everton Geo. E Groves formerly Post and telegraph master at B/worth £352 - List of November subscriptions Ovens Hospital 1883. NSW - happy to look for name - 2 day offer John J O'Brien Myall Plains 1/1/- B/worth shire- H J Rowe - Beechworth 5/- - Kathy this must be our "Rowe" Henry who took on the Star Hotel by 90s. Yack shire - G P H Gehrig Barnawartha Vineyard. names from the vineyard C Keiser B Muller Emil Luzelschwabe Paul Koshel. Phillip H Gehrig Rocky Point. names from his list G Milford, John Schweizer, -Vielle , -Collins, D DeMestre Patrick Lyons. - names involved in Beechworth Boxing Day Sports - Their name and colours. Malloy P Green and blue from B/worth F O Warden from B/worth - no colour Walter F West Wangaratta - Black and gold John Kennedy Chiltern - no colour Geo Bruce B/worth White and spotted red black and white Joseph V Cook Tarrawingee Pink and Black W H O'Brien of Sydney (late of B/worth) no colour F Duffy Chiltern Blue and white J McMaster Myrtleford White and Crimson C F Duchatel Albury Puce the rest have no colours Geo Irvine Chiltern W H Martin Chiltern John Yoxall B/worth Alex McLeod STanley - Recipes - Cheap Summer Drinks. Apple Water - Slice some well flavored apples in a large jug, they need to be neither peeled nor cored. Add 3 or 4 cloves and a strip of lemon peel and pour boiling water over. Let is stand 24 hours. Drinkable in 12 hours or less. Ginger Beer recipe too if anyone interested along with currant water, Raspberry acid, rice or barley drink. - 25.12.83 Licenses for publicans granted Thomas Ellen British Hotel 3 Mile. Murmungee Hotel renewed in the name of Jane Haworth nee Jane ALLEN - Christmas Eve in Beechworth 1883 Beechworth presented a most animated appearance. The town was brilliantly lighted; various places of business were kept open and their owners did a busy trade among the townspeople and visitors who thronged the streets. It was pleasant to hear the oft expressed wishes of "a merry Christmas' and 'compliments of the season to you' and to witness the warm greetings as friend met friend; and all among the well dressed crowd appeared to forget the cares and anxieties of every day life in the pleasure it felt at this festive season, when the thought uppermost in people's minds is as it s hould be one of "Peace good will toward men"> - THE END of 1883.

Thanks Denise for snippet Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 9:10 PM Subject: [HC] OMA Hi All, Is it a long weekend in Victoria or are you all tucked up in front of a fire? The list is so quiet. I"ve been busy on other matters these past few nights but now back to finish the last few weeks of 1883. -11.12.83 Tom Thumb was a Knight Templar. He was the shortest knight in the world - shorter even than the night of June 21. - Murmungee cricket include J E Burbank c Walter Wilberforce b Finnie A Jessop c and b Griffin E Jessop b Finnie G Calgleish run out A McLeod sub., b Finnie J Cummins sub., c Robertson, b Griffin Gillan b Finnie H Elmer not out J Bigelow sub., c Flood b Griffin Second innings (names not mentioned above) J Wilberforce Will. Wilberforce Hillsborough first innings A Welshman G Wilberforce Griffin McCarthy Flood J Finnie J Wilberforce Blewitt (no initial Blow it , sorry, got to do something while reading all this (g)) - Land Application at Tallangatta to be held 20t December - am putting these in now, just in case the results don't get into the paper before end of year. James McGill 156 acres Between Goldsworthy's and Rowley's holdings Berringa. John Mitchell 20 acres south of J Goldsworthy's holding Upper Murray Rd Berringa 13.12.1883 The railway line to Myrtleford was completed 'today'. It was officially opened by the Minister of Railways. - Licenses renewed/granted. ( liquor licenses.) George Rae Allen's Flat. A transfer of license from J M Cole to Helen McIntyre of Yack. - People selling fat cattle fat sheep fat calves fat lambs and store cattle for the Christmas trade at J H Gray & Co. 19th December O'Donnell Merriang Mc'Aliece Oxley Kelly Mitta M Reid Oxley H A Crawford Whorouly M Welsh Whorouly J Lampitt Kiewa M O'Donnell Merriang Mrs Mackay The Grange J Sutcliffe Wooragee H A Crawford Piney Ranges. Gee I wish he wouldn't do this to me, what's he been up to now. J Kendall Basin Creek G Beatty Osborne's Flat W Fisher Jnr W Henry Bowman's Forest - publican's license Wangaratta Silas Porter Royal Victoria Hotel - 15/12/83 Beechworth Police Court M and T Dodd v Patrick Reardon Fraud summons - ordered to be paid in monthly instalments of £1. - £5.3.6 John Hines v James Hamel claim of 17/6d ordered to pay John Brown charged with using obscene language in a public place was fined £10 or 3 months imprisonment - fine was NOT paid. Went away, not to far, for a Xmas holiday . - H R Tilt, Registrar of Marriages Rowan st Wangaratta. - Handicaps for the Two mile maiden at Boxing Day sports. happy to backtrack for names and distance - two days offer. Thompson, Osborne Jeffs McLean 3 Mile - Stassen Cooper Thompson Maloney Osborne Taylor. Two mile - Cooper Thompson Osborne Stassen Maloney Taylor. - Jeremiah McCormick of Greta granted hawkers and pedlars licenses - Leaving - Mr J E Burbank having disposed of his fourth share in the Jaybird Reef at the Sugarload Bowman's Forest to Jas Kyle at a satisfactory price will leave Beechworth for Queensland where he has obtained employed as an engineer. -

Dear Denise and all, I have sent you by private mail an excel file of Theatre Licenses for St. Georges Hall the Odd Fellows Hall in Beechworth. These appear as the only entries for Beechworth in this volume. Only a few entries. I am currently transcribing lists of Children who were at the Industrial School or a Reformatory who were 'licensed' out to someone - presumably to work for them. I believe there are other lists of those at the Industrial School. This book shows the surname, given name of each child, surname, given name and address of who they were sent to, the date of the licence and the date it was recorded, a correspondence number and a remarks column. I am quite surprised there are so many names. This book is a licensing record and there are several others, so I have a way to got yet. It shows licences for holding theatrical performances, universities claiming bodies of those hanged, water licences etc. it is a varied book, but rather interesting. I expect it will take me a long time to list them all. I generally keep an eye out for surnames I see on the various lists, but if anyone thinks their ancestor may have run a hall/pub that required a licence to have theatrical entertainment or had a vessel that may have wanted to enter the Bay just give me a name and/or place. Of course if you had an ancestor that was hanged it may show who claimed the body but not what they did with it!! I do remember reading a file some years ago that contained notes from a doctor of sorts who examined the heads/skulls/brains of murders and other criminals to see if there was something significant.......................... Mary of Melbourne

Dead silent for a week now. Your email was I see sent 6 days ago! - it is Saturday 10th now! Very little email from anyone apart from some spam as ever. Nothing I could see on the rootsweb site about stoppages, BUT I did catch something mentioned on the news about a new virus expected to stop email in its tracks last Monday morning. There is a goodly amount appeared this morning, but not anything like what would normally be there for a week! Dawn -----Original Message----- From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] Sent: Sunday, 4 July 2004 9:11 PM To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HC] OMA Hi All, Is it a long weekend in Victoria or are you all tucked up in front of a fire? The list is so quiet. I"ve been busy on other matters these past few nights but now back to finish the last few weeks of 1883. -11.12.83 Tom Thumb was a Knight Templar. He was the shortest knight in the world - shorter even than the night of June 21. - Murmungee cricket include J E Burbank c Walter Wilberforce b Finnie A Jessop c and b Griffin E Jessop b Finnie G Calgleish run out A McLeod sub., b Finnie J Cummins sub., c Robertson, b Griffin Gillan b Finnie H Elmer not out J Bigelow sub., c Flood b Griffin Second innings (names not mentioned above) J Wilberforce Will. Wilberforce Hillsborough first innings A Welshman G Wilberforce Griffin McCarthy Flood J Finnie J Wilberforce Blewitt (no initial Blow it , sorry, got to do something while reading all this (g)) - Land Application at Tallangatta to be held 20t December - am putting these in now, just in case the results don't get into the paper before end of year. James McGill 156 acres Between Goldsworthy's and Rowley's holdings Berringa. John Mitchell 20 acres south of J Goldsworthy's holding Upper Murray Rd Berringa 13.12.1883 The railway line to Myrtleford was completed 'today'. It was officially opened by the Minister of Railways. - Licenses renewed/granted. ( liquor licenses.) George Rae Allen's Flat. A transfer of license from J M Cole to Helen McIntyre of Yack. - People selling fat cattle fat sheep fat calves fat lambs and store cattle for the Christmas trade at J H Gray & Co. 19th December O'Donnell Merriang Mc'Aliece Oxley Kelly Mitta M Reid Oxley H A Crawford Whorouly M Welsh Whorouly J Lampitt Kiewa M O'Donnell Merriang Mrs Mackay The Grange J Sutcliffe Wooragee H A Crawford Piney Ranges. Gee I wish he wouldn't do this to me, what's he been up to now. J Kendall Basin Creek G Beatty Osborne's Flat W Fisher Jnr W Henry Bowman's Forest - publican's license Wangaratta Silas Porter Royal Victoria Hotel - 15/12/83 Beechworth Police Court M and T Dodd v Patrick Reardon Fraud summons - ordered to be paid in monthly instalments of £1. - £5.3.6 John Hines v James Hamel claim of 17/6d ordered to pay John Brown charged with using obscene language in a public place was fined £10 or 3 months imprisonment - fine was NOT paid. Went away, not to far, for a Xmas holiday . - H R Tilt, Registrar of Marriages Rowan st Wangaratta. - Handicaps for the Two mile maiden at Boxing Day sports. happy to backtrack for names and distance - two days offer. Thompson, Osborne Jeffs McLean 3 Mile - Stassen Cooper Thompson Maloney Osborne Taylor. Two mile - Cooper Thompson Osborne Stassen Maloney Taylor. - Jeremiah McCormick of Greta granted hawkers and pedlars licenses - Leaving - Mr J E Burbank having disposed of his fourth share in the Jaybird Reef at the Sugarload Bowman's Forest to Jas Kyle at a satisfactory price will leave Beechworth for Queensland where he has obtained employed as an engineer. -

Thank you Ray, but for the life of me I can't recall the initial post. it seems so long ago...(g)... Never mind. Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan" <joanmck@cv.quik.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 11:50 AM Subject: [HC] Ladies wanted ---Draught > Hi Denise, > Bookless's Balantyre & Victors Pride. Bookless was a farmer, publican and a very good > judge of horse flesh, particularly of Clydesdales, often judging in Sydney and Brisbane as well as > a lot of smaller shows about the district. > Cheers Ray. > >

Much appreciated Ronda. Thank you. Anthony >From: "Ronda Shambrook" <shambrookdr@dcsi.net.au> >Reply-To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com >To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [HC] William Blewett bank transactions >Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 22:12:07 +1000 > >William Blewett Hillsborough 1883-1896 The Bank of Austalasia Yackandandah >Branch > >December 23rd 1884 - banked a cheque for 15 pounds 19/6 from Bigelow > >July 19th 1887 - paid Hans McGowan 70 pounds 1/- > >June 1st 1890 - paid Bigelow 5 pounds > > > _________________________________________________________________ Smart Saving with ING Direct – earn 5.25% p.a. variable rate: http://ad.au.doubleclick.net/clk;7249209;8842331;n?http://www.ingdirect.com.au/burst6offer.asp?id=8

Hi Mary, Depends on which Fulton, there were several about the Hedi, Moyhu, Oxley, Bright and Wandilagong areas. Jessie Fulton married into the Crowther branch of our tree. Cheers Ray. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Dean <Deans@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 8:23 PM Subject: [HC] Beck and Fulton > Hi list just thought I would ask again if anyone has these surnames in their > tree, always hopeful > pp > > >

Hi Denise, Twice in one day !!!!! This Lott Healy is the brother of Bridget White (nee Healy) of Myrtleford. The Healy's daughter Margaret married Mathew Cock of mining heritage etc.. Also the J. Morrison on this list is a brother in law of Lott's and they in turn were from Sunnyside/Glen Wills area. I think there is someone on this list who has published on the Renton/Morrison descendancy. Lott Healy trained and bred quite a few horses in his time and was out at Mudgegonga for quite a white. His granddaughter was Daphne HOneychurch (nee Morrison) of Bright. Kind regards and many thanks again for taking time to type all this. Di Upper Beaconsfield, Vic. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 9:10 PM Subject: [HC] OMA > 13.10.83 > > Some names from the Hospital donation list from NSW > > Lot Heally's Dan O'Connell > J Morrison's Red Prince >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [HC] oma 15.9.1883 Dear Denise, Thank you, at last - something to say they were there and contributing. Thank you so much. That was both the father (Charles) and son (John). This is really appreciated. Di Upper Beaconsfield, VIc. > Charles White > (ah WHITE your name, sorry I completely forgot it) > > John White > >> > > >

I hope this makes it thru the clogged mail at rootsweb and to the list. Many thanks Ronda for the copies sent in the mail. Fortunately it told me two or three new things about grandfather. One, the timeframe for the arrival back in Victoria, and most importantly where they were in W.A. Another interesting item was the address at top of one letter 'Agricultural Department" Hamel, W.A. Now what on earth was he doing there! This is the best I've ever had on him, so thanks very much Ronda. regards Denise

G'day All, I've just been contacted by a US member of the Shanahan Family in the US, & was wondering if anyone on this list has connections? The Shanahans came from Borrakiella, Co. Cork, Ireland. (Shanahan's Noorongong property was called Borakiella.) Of 13 chn., 5 migrated in stages to Australia: Michael, Bartholomew (Bart), Margaret, Julia and Tim (Barney), who in 1872 joined his brothers at Yackandandah, working near Albury, and with a surveying party around Mitta and the north-east." (From Di Carroll's CD) I'm connected through the Mongan family (Ellen Mary married Timothy Shanahan). Cheers. Pat..

Denise Is that 0's, or husbands Cheers Ray. ----- Original Message ----- From: Denise <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [HC] KYLE > Mary, no she's not had the sack yet this year, but it sounds as if she is > due for review. She hasn't answered any interoffice memos either. I guess > she will return to her desk one day, but then.. !!! > She has actually been quite busy after hours with husband's big 0 birthday > party - actually two of them. Still that is no excuse > HQ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MM" <elthamlax@techinfo.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 7:21 AM > Subject: Fw: [HC] KYLE > > > > Dear Denise, > > What have you done with Mary pp - have you sacked her? is she in disgrace? > > I have not heard from her re this posting of mine last week > > Mary of Melbourne > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "MM" <elthamlax@techinfo.com.au> > > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 4:47 PM > > Subject: [HC] KYLE > > > > > > > Dear Mary, > > > Have you any interest in the KYLE family from Wallan Wallan - John & > wife > > Elizabeth. Possibly had a son John and a William. > > > I typed up some things I saw at the PRO on Monday. > > > Let me know if you are interested. > > > Mary of Melbourne > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Hi Denise, Bookless's Balantyre & Victors Pride. Bookless was a farmer, publican and a very good judge of horse flesh, particularly of Clydesdales, often judging in Sydney and Brisbane as well as a lot of smaller shows about the district. Cheers Ray.