Pat - was your Bridget McNamara married when she arrived in Aust. and if so to whom? D

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_onjRfsMRJ1UYL2uOG2f5Bg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline unsubscribe --Boundary_(ID_onjRfsMRJ1UYL2uOG2f5Bg) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-D Digest Volume 04 : Issue 322 Today's Topics: #1 BEECHWORTH GRAMMAR/INSOLVENTS ["MM" <elthamlax@techinfo.com.au>] #2 Re: [HC] BEECHWORTH GRAMMAR/INSOLV ["Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au>] #3 Re: [HC] Price ["Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au>] #4 BEECHWORTH GRAMMAR/INSOLVENTS/MAST ["MM" <elthamlax@techinfo.com.au>] #5 Re: OMA ["Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au>] #6 Fw: OMA ["Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au>] #7 Re: [HC] OMA ["Kerry" <kerryb@austarnet.com.au>] #8 That third cemetery in B/worth ["Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au>] #9 OMA ["Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au>] #10 OMA ["Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au>] #11 Re: [HC] OMA [Christine <wildmob@dodo.com.au>] #12 OMA ["Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au>] #13 OMA ["Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au>] #14 OMA ["Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au>] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-D, send a message to AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. To contact the AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-D list administrator, send mail to AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-admin@rootsweb.com. ______________________________ --Boundary_(ID_onjRfsMRJ1UYL2uOG2f5Bg) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Message: #1 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 08:11:13 +1000 From: "MM" <elthamlax@techinfo.com.au> To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <022701c449b7$b10e3e40$9a953fcb@maryus9ddbiwu1> Subject: BEECHWORTH GRAMMAR/INSOLVENTS Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Denise, I will be typing up some info. on insolvents in the next few days, as per my recent visit to the PRO. In the meantime if you see any reference in the OMA 1864-1965 to the surname MAST/JONES I will be very grateful. Your ref. to Beechworth Grammar School (OMA 2.1.1864) is the first one I have seen where it actually states the location i.e. BELLEVUE HOUSE. Do you recall seeing/reading/typing BELLEVUE HOUSE previously? I have not been able to find any records of this school at the PRO. My ggrandfather Hy FOSTER would have been attending in 1864, so his father Wlm. Hy. FOSTER must have done well at mining to afford 60 guineas a year!! Thank you, Mary of Melbourne The next postings from the OMA will be for the yearS 1864 and 1865. During this time the paper was published only 3 days per week so therefore two years of paper have been put onto the roll. There are several missing issues. This happens and as you go thru the rolls you will see a note telling you that the next issue is missing, that the print runs into the centre of the page (makes it hard to read) or that the next edition is an alternative edition. As I understand it from messages on the film, OMA printed a Beechworth Version and another 'edited' version for example to be sent to Melbourne or even overseas. The rolls bought from the Burke Museum are films of the Beechworth Version of the OMA and when one is missing, if it is available in the Melbourne version that has been substituted. The reason for telling you this is that it may explain why I can't find the end of the story so to speak. For example a court case may have started, and then deferred to another day, and then I can't locate the end of it. It may well be that it is on! a missing paper. I have found several instances in my own research when I find the clues, but not the end of the tale! Anyway plodding on - 1864.... 2.1.1864 For those following Beechworth Grammar School - Principal is John H Cuzner it is located at Bellevue House with domestic arrangements under the personal care of Mrs. Cuzner. course - writing arithmetic, reading, English grammar, geography, history, drawing, singing and the elements of mathematics, natural philosophy and Latin. Terms- including books washing and all extras except medical, church pew and repairs to clothes - 60 guineas per annum payable quarterly in advance. ______________________________ --Boundary_(ID_onjRfsMRJ1UYL2uOG2f5Bg) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Message: #2 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 08:28:32 +1000 From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <008a01c449ba$1aa71a00$cc493dcb@mcmahon8wl24l6> Subject: Re: [HC] BEECHWORTH GRAMMAR/INSOLVENTS Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's a pleasure May - No this is the first time I've seen Bellevue House. Other times it has been just the location. I knew you were interested in the school and I thought it was around this timeframe. Look forward to the Insolvency pieces. In 1859 there was a lot of write ups on Insolvencies, far too many to sit and read - I'd still be doing it but can go back. I gather they were saying it was too easy for people to become insolvent, something to do with locals getting their Insolvencies (for want of a better word, just out of bed) in Melbourne rather than Beechworth and cheating Beechworth creditors out of money. I could be way out here but that's the feel I got. It went on for months. Bit like elections - take up valuable research space in the paper for weeks on end (g). As for Mast OK but JONES - as they are so many sSmiths Jones etc can you give me more clues as to which Jones to look for. regards Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "MM" <elthamlax@techinfo.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 8:11 AM Subject: [HC] BEECHWORTH GRAMMAR/INSOLVENTS > Hello Denise, > I will be typing up some info. on insolvents in the next few days, as per my > recent visit to the PRO. > In the meantime if you see any reference in the OMA 1864-1965 to the surname > MAST/JONES I will be very grateful. > Your ref. to Beechworth Grammar School (OMA 2.1.1864) is the first one I > have seen where it actually states the location i.e. BELLEVUE HOUSE. > Do you recall seeing/reading/typing BELLEVUE HOUSE previously? I have not > been able to find any records of this school at the PRO. > My ggrandfather Hy FOSTER would have been attending in 1864, so his father > Wlm. Hy. FOSTER must have done well at mining to afford 60 guineas a year!! > Thank you, > Mary of Melbourne > > > The next postings from the OMA will be for the yearS 1864 and 1865. > During this time the paper was published only 3 days per week so therefore > two years of paper have been put onto the roll. There are several missing > issues. This happens and as you go thru the rolls you will see a note > telling you that the next issue is missing, that the print runs into the > centre of the page (makes it hard to read) or that the next edition is an > alternative edition. As I understand it from messages on the film, OMA > printed a Beechworth Version and another 'edited' version for example to be > sent to Melbourne or even overseas. The rolls bought from the Burke Museum > are films of the Beechworth Version of the OMA and when one is missing, if > it is available in the Melbourne version that has been substituted. The > reason for telling you this is that it may explain why I can't find the end > of the story so to speak. For example a court case may have started, and > then deferred to another day, and then I can't locate the end of it. It may > well be that it is on! > a missing paper. I have found several instances in my own research when I > find the clues, but not the end of the tale! > > Anyway plodding on - 1864.... > 2.1.1864 > For those following Beechworth Grammar School - Principal is John H Cuzner > it is located at Bellevue House with domestic arrangements under the > personal care of Mrs. Cuzner. course - writing arithmetic, reading, English > grammar, geography, history, drawing, singing and the elements of > mathematics, natural philosophy and Latin. > Terms- including books washing and all extras except medical, church pew and > repairs to clothes - 60 guineas per annum payable quarterly in advance. > > ______________________________ --Boundary_(ID_onjRfsMRJ1UYL2uOG2f5Bg) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Message: #3 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 08:36:21 +1000 From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <009e01c449bb$324aa040$cc493dcb@mcmahon8wl24l6> Subject: Re: [HC] Price Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thanks Ronda, I can avoid a few until then. Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronda Shambrook" <shambrookdr@dcsi.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Price > Denise > James and Harriet Price arrived in Beechworth/Black Springs in 1865, with > daughters Harriet (married James McIntosh, Yack), Matilda (married Claude > Ronald Tallangatta), and Mary Ann Rebecca (died 1866, buried B/worth) and > sons James, William and Charles Henry. > Ronda > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 11:11 PM > Subject: [HC] Price > > > > Ronda - when did your Price's come into the Ovens area - you told me a > while ago but I'velost it. > > > > There was John Price, a mason in court claiming damages for assault - was > a lodger with Mrs. Callinan's daughter Mrs. Harvey. OMA 16.1.1864 > > > > Denise > > > ______________________________ --Boundary_(ID_onjRfsMRJ1UYL2uOG2f5Bg) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Message: #4 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 08:53:29 +1000 From: "MM" <elthamlax@techinfo.com.au> To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <026c01c449bd$97c36c70$9a953fcb@maryus9ddbiwu1> Subject: BEECHWORTH GRAMMAR/INSOLVENTS/MAST Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Denise, With regard to MAST/JONES the JONES may be mentioned in relation to MAST. Anne Maria JONES m. William MAST on 24.3.1864 and there is no record of his supposed death in 1866. She went on to later marry Wlm. Hy FOSTER in 1869 who said his wife had died in 1856 - again no record. I tended to think at one stage they may both be down a gold mine somewhere in Beechworth. Anne Maria went on to marry a John Godfred COGDELL after FOSTER died in 1874. When COGDELL died in 1894 she disappeared!!! I am particularly interested in William MAST and I also believe his brother August MAST may have been a butcher in Beechworth around that time. Unfortunately things did not go well for August MAST who eventually died in Kew Asylum. Sorry if I lead you to think I wanted all the JONSES'.............. Off to work now, Thank you, Mary of Melbourne ______________________________ --Boundary_(ID_onjRfsMRJ1UYL2uOG2f5Bg) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Message: #5 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 14:46:03 +1000 From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <007301c449ee$d8211f70$fb483dcb@mcmahon8wl24l6> Subject: Re: OMA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 ----- Found these in DRAFTS, don't know if they had gone thru before 19th September 1859 The wife of Mr. Wm Heyenga, Yachandandah on the 19th inst., of a daughter. 20.9.1859 James Lynch constable, stationed at Reid's Creek. - witness again. - ______________________________ --Boundary_(ID_onjRfsMRJ1UYL2uOG2f5Bg) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Message: #6 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 14:46:27 +1000 From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <007f01c449ee$e6195340$fb483dcb@mcmahon8wl24l6> Subject: Fw: OMA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 26th September 1859 The Friends of M.r A. Tanner formerly of Empire Hotel, are respectfully invited to attend the funeral of his late father-in-law Mr. Charles Clarke from the Beechworth Hospital this day Monday September 26th at half-past Two o'clock pm. A R Noble Undertaker 26.9.1859 Among those asking James Ingram to nominate John Price Wm Price James Kyle Wm Phillips Thomas Milne Mark Stranghair Robert McKenzie Henry Raecke - 28.9.1859 James Mitchell of Yackandandah - surgeon applies for the Office of House Surgeon of the Ovens District Hospital. - 3.10.1859 P1. Wasn't ROACH a name on the list? If so, have an ad Mr R placed about Mrs. R. - ______________________________ --Boundary_(ID_onjRfsMRJ1UYL2uOG2f5Bg) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Message: #7 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 17:35:25 +1000 From: "Kerry" <kerryb@austarnet.com.au> To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <006501c44a06$81b66510$e95cddcb@kerrysw9svvcej> Subject: Re: [HC] OMA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by lists2.rootsweb.com id i54B087p027849 Thanks for the Jessup Denise Kerry ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 10:32 PM Subject: [HC] OMA The next postings from the OMA will be for the yearS 1864 and 1865. During this time the paper was published only 3 days per week so therefor= e two years of paper have been put onto the roll. There are several missin= g issues. This happens and as you go thru the rolls you will see a note telling you that the next issue is missing, that the print runs into the centre of the page (makes it hard to read) or that the next edition is an alternative edition. As I understand it from messages on the film, OMA printed a Beechworth Version and another 'edited' version for example to = be sent to Melbourne or even overseas. The rolls bought from the Burke Mus= eum are films of the Beechworth Version of the OMA and when one is missing, i= f it is available in the Melbourne version that has been substituted. The reason for telling you this is that it may explain why I can't find the e= nd of the story so to speak. For example a court case may have started, and then deferred to another day, and then I can't locate the end of it. It = may well be that it is on! a missing paper. I have found several instances in my own research when= I find the clues, but not the end of the tale! Anyway plodding on - 1864.... 2.1.1864 For those following Beechworth Grammar School - Principal is John H Cuzne= r it is located at Bellevue House with domestic arrangements under the personal care of Mrs. Cuzner. course - writing arithmetic, reading, Engl= ish grammar, geography, history, drawing, singing and the elements of mathematics, natural philosophy and Latin. Terms- including books washing and all extras except medical, church pew = and repairs to clothes - 60 guineas per annum payable quarterly in advance. - Fred Porrit v C F Mitchell and A Porritt - a claim for labour and work do= ne It seems Mitchell and Porritt were proprietors of the "Courier" newspaper. - =A32 reward - lost from Bowman's Forest a Bay horse branded CJ near shoul= der. and JL off shoulder, off hip down collar marked had on when lost a bell a= nd hobbles. The above reward will be paid on delivery to Mr. E. JessUp Miner Bowman's Forest - ______________________________ --Boundary_(ID_onjRfsMRJ1UYL2uOG2f5Bg) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Message: #8 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 17:56:35 +1000 From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <00f601c44a09$77497380$fb483dcb@mcmahon8wl24l6> Subject: That third cemetery in B/worth Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 OMA 5/2/64 A government official had recently visited Beechworth to inspect the town and facilities, drains, cesspools etc. This is one comment - On the south-east side of the town (B/worth) on the opposite side of Spring Creek is an old burial ground where probably 20 interments have been made within an area of about half an acre. This has recently been fenced in by the Government. #I wonder if the bodies were removed at any time and if not, is there still an indication that this small cemetery exists? - Denise ______________________________ --Boundary_(ID_onjRfsMRJ1UYL2uOG2f5Bg) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Message: #9 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 18:14:16 +1000 From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <010d01c44a0b$ee90cfe0$fb483dcb@mcmahon8wl24l6> Subject: OMA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by lists2.rootsweb.com id i54B087p027849 This year 1864 is an extremely faded copy, and there are instances where = I can see some articles and not all of it. =20 23.1.1864 News from Woods Pt. In Messrs Nolan and Co' claim one fourth = share was soldt he other day to Sergeant Harty of Wood's Pt police for =A3= 356, the claim is worked steadily the machinery in first rate order and t= heir returns very fair. - 23.1.1864 Charlie Thornton still advertising - "being about to balance his books fo= r the past year begs to inform all parties indebted to him that they must= settle their ac counts within 14 days. He also wishes to intimate that = the business is carried on solely on his own behalf and that he is in par= tnership with no one whatever. and Fat cattle , Good fat cattle in large or small lots to suit purchasers; d= eliverable at the paddock Magpie Swamp Wooragee always to be had on appli= cation to Charles Thornton Wooragee. The cattle in question are amongst t= he finest on this side of the Murray an will be sold at 10s per cwt., in = carcase, to be taken away from the Paddock.=20 - 28.1.1864 Should this meet the eye of Mr. Thos. Saunders who left Dundee about the = year 1847 eh will please call on Messrs Buick, Christie and Lyall Melbour= ne or Mr. John Young Camp street Beechworth where he will see a friend wh= o has some money to pay hi m. - H Jarvis is leaving Yack - grand farewell free ball and supper Commercial= Hotel. Friday 29th Jan. Geo Hallworth leaving the colony will also be giving free farewell grand = ball and supper at Hallworth Hotel Woolshed. - George Holthaus insolvent - 30.1.64 Dargo Express - William McKay=20 - The small journal called The "Courier" has ceased to exist. - Challenge - 4 men from Hurdle Flat will ROW any four from the Beechworth = Division against time, on Lake Kerferd for the sum of 15 pounds or 20 pou= nds. Challenge open for one week. Full partis form John Carew the bootm= aker at Be/worth and Matheson and others at Hurdle F. - Logan's Restaurant beyond the Germans on the road to Wood's Pt is for sal= e. - Mr. Brenstadt is a shoemaker at Stanley - Mr. John A O'Reilly long and favorably known on the 9 Mile in its palmy d= ays as one of its most respectable inhabitants and universally esteemed t= hroughout the district among his fellow miners as a thoroughly honorable = and trustworthy man has written to our journal......(sorry the print has = faded far too much to read) - Dargo gold fields doing well. - 2.2.1864 Muter At Stanley on the 31st January Mrs James Muter of a son. Both doing= well. ______________________________ --Boundary_(ID_onjRfsMRJ1UYL2uOG2f5Bg) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Message: #10 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 18:29:24 +1000 From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <014c01c44a0e$0bc1bbe0$fb483dcb@mcmahon8wl24l6> Subject: OMA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 6.2.1864 Archery - it wasn't known generally but every Saturday several ladies took part in this 'graceful' exercise on the Recreation Reserve. The paper would like to see it taken up by ladies who lead the fashion in b/worth (ornaments of creation). Several enthusiastic ladies of Maid Marion rise every morning with the sun to practise. - Journalist discussing the merits of silk stocking. Some husbands maintain cotton will suffice, whilst some others said husband was bound to provide silk if the wife wished...."the point seems to be one beset with difficulties and as we fear the wrath of the fair ladies whom we may meet on the archery ground this afternoon............. Go girls. - Tommy Rath may be chosen for the Beechworth Second Eleven - Wanted a general servant Apply Mrs. Heyenga Allan's Flat Yackandandah 20,000 stones. - ______________________________ --Boundary_(ID_onjRfsMRJ1UYL2uOG2f5Bg) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Message: #11 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 18:33:25 +1000 From: Christine <wildmob@dodo.com.au> To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <D8C89888-B601-11D8-8656-00039342BB54@dodo.com.au> Subject: Re: [HC] OMA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thanks Denise They're in the post!!! > > - > Wanted a general servant Apply Mrs. Heyenga Allan's Flat Yackandandah > 20,000 stones. > - > > ______________________________ --Boundary_(ID_onjRfsMRJ1UYL2uOG2f5Bg) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Message: #12 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 19:29:40 +1000 From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <01f001c44a16$77015b10$fb483dcb@mcmahon8wl24l6> Subject: OMA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 9.2.64 Sports newsflash P Rath for the 3 Milers made top scores. In all the play was not very good . T Rath also played. and M. Rath. - 11.2.1864 WOLLAND -STONE On the 9th February by the Rev. W. C. L. Howard at the residence of the bride's father, Mr. Job Stone, Spring Creek Beechworth to Mr. Henry Wolland to Miss Mary Ann Stone. - A James Moore was part of Jury sworn in for Inquest in Chiltern. - 13.2.1864 R. H. Stone was MIning Registrar and surveyor for Buckland and Dargo. - the Great Orchard Robbery Case at New town. It turns out that the atrocious miscreant who robbed Mr. Barnard's garden at New town a week back was rather a small offender, who seemed to think that if he left his sister's hymn book in the orchard in exchange for the peaches he had eaten, it would only be a matter of barter. We understand however that his maternal ancestor very soon convinced him of his mistake in a very practical manner and the result of his interview with his mother on the great peach question was that he started off like a railway train with a tender behind.- = ______________________________ --Boundary_(ID_onjRfsMRJ1UYL2uOG2f5Bg) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Message: #13 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 20:05:23 +1000 From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <020c01c44a1b$742c9df0$fb483dcb@mcmahon8wl24l6> Subject: OMA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 25.2.1864 Messrs Ray, Ellen, Dunn, Ransom Warden and Michel were granted extension of licenses for the forthcoming races in B/worth. - 27.2.1864 NOTICE. w. Heyenga begs to inform the Public of Yackandandah and vicinity that he has admitted Mr. ..................into Partnership with him. the business will in future be conducted by the firm of Heyenga & .......................... (not Solomon) Allan's Flat Yackandandah Feb 22 1864. As is 50,000 stones completed, 90,135 stones - ______________________________ --Boundary_(ID_onjRfsMRJ1UYL2uOG2f5Bg) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Message: #14 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 20:59:55 +1000 From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <02b401c44a23$12479b50$fb483dcb@mcmahon8wl24l6> Subject: OMA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 1.3.1864 David Evans and Daniel Hugh Evans and Benjamin Sayer of the Victorian Steam Flour Mill - dissolved partnership. In future Daniel will carry on under Evans & Co. - 3.3.64 Changes in Beechworth - Mr. Finch took over the establishment of Mr. Wither's clothing depot. Old residents S. H. Roberts, and J and W. Turner are about to leave B/worth. good wishes to all 1200 stones. - 5.3.64 The shop occupied by above J and W T had been let to some guy who opened it as a drapery and clothing emporium. (Ford St) "This part of Ford Street will soon be like St. Paul's Church-yard, all drapers" - Latest in clocks. "TRUE TIME on and after tomorrow , the time signal flag will be hoisted at a few minutes to one PM At one precisely the flag will be hauled down. - J H Gray & Co. instructed by James M Kyle to sell by public auction at his residence Loch Street Beechworth directly behind the National School the whole of his furniture and effects - chairs, tables, couch, carpet lots of books bedstead. Be there Mary at 2 pm. - 8.3.64 J and W T giving up business in Beechworth. In returning their sincere thanks for the liberal patronage bestowed onthem during the past seven years, beg to intimate that they are relinquishing business in B/worth and will close their store on Sat 2nd April . Settlement of all accounts is respectfully requested. Ford St 29/2/1864 - --Boundary_(ID_onjRfsMRJ1UYL2uOG2f5Bg)--

Hi Jenny, I don't suppose there is any mention of a John O'Brien in your diaries is there? He was born in Windsor and came to Tarrawingee at some stage in the 1640's or 1850's. Thanks, Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: <JnnyB@aol.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Books > Hi Denise, > > I have Aunt Spencer's Diary. Aunt Spencer was actually Mary Spencer, sister > of Joseph Docker's wife Sarah. One chapter is the diary of Mary Spencer, and > one chapter by Mary Docker (later Clarke) describing their journey from Windsor > to Bontherambo in 1838. > No index I'm afraid. > > Jenny >

Jenni and Wendy - thanks at least I know one of them is around - sorry Wendy no idea, just wondered if anyone who has read them to give a rundown. Denise --- > I've not heard of them Denise but I'd be interested in the one about > Tarrawingee if it is available somewhere. > > Thanks,. > Wendy ---- > > > > Found a couple of references to Books I can't recall hearing of and wonder > if anyone has read them. -- > > > > The Story Behind Tarrawingee 1854-1954 John Kay 1954 > > > > Aunt Spencer's Diary 1854 - a visit to Bontherambo and the North East > Goldfields, A Cooper Les Blaker 1981

I've not heard of them Denise but I'd be interested in the one about Tarrawingee if it is available somewhere. Thanks,. Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 7:53 PM Subject: [HC] Books > Hi list, everyone is quiet of late. > > Found a couple of references to Books I can't recall hearing of and wonder if anyone has read them. -- > > The Story Behind Tarrawingee 1854-1954 John Kay 1954 > > Aunt Spencer's Diary 1854 - a visit to Bontherambo and the North East Goldfields, A Cooper Les Blaker 1981 > > regards > Denise > Families are like fudge...mostly sweet, with a few nuts. >

Hello, Does anyone know of any books for sale on the history of Corryong and the surrounding areas? My great grandfather William John Henry Griffiths was born in Corryong in 1910. Regards, Charles Thompson

Hi Denise, I have Aunt Spencer's Diary. Aunt Spencer was actually Mary Spencer, sister of Joseph Docker's wife Sarah. One chapter is the diary of Mary Spencer, and one chapter by Mary Docker (later Clarke) describing their journey from Windsor to Bontherambo in 1838. No index I'm afraid. Jenny

Hi List, Are we all out for a couple of days, or am I the only one? Cheers Ray.

Hi list, everyone is quiet of late. Found a couple of references to Books I can't recall hearing of and wonder if anyone has read them. -- The Story Behind Tarrawingee 1854-1954 John Kay 1954 Aunt Spencer's Diary 1854 - a visit to Bontherambo and the North East Goldfields, A Cooper Les Blaker 1981 regards Denise Families are like fudge...mostly sweet, with a few nuts.

Hello All, Thought this might also be of interest. Maybe something to memorise during those long cold winter nights we are experiencing in Victoria at the moment. Mary of Melbourne ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ What is a First Cousin, Twice Removed? by Genealogy.com If someone walked up to you and said "Howdy, I'm your third cousin, twice removed," would you have any idea what they meant? Most people have a good understanding of basic relationship words such as "mother," "father," "aunt," "uncle," "brother," and "sister." But what about the relationship terms that we don't use in everyday speech? Terms like "second cousin" and "first cousin, once removed"? We don't tend to speak about our relationships in such exact terms ("cousin" seems good enough when you are introducing one person to another), so most of us aren't familiar with what these words mean. Relationship Terms. Sometimes, especially when working on your family history, it's handy to know how to describe your family relationships more exactly. The definitions below should help you out.Cousin (a.k.a "first cousin") Your first cousins are the people in your family who have two of the same grandparents as you. In other words, they are the children of your aunts and uncles.Second Cousin Your second cousins are the people in your family who have the same great-grandparents as you., but not the same grandparents. Third, Fourth, and Fifth Cousins Your third cousins have the same great-great-grandparents, fourth cousins have the same great-great-great-grandparents, and so on.Removed When the word "removed" is used to describe a relationship, it indicates that the two people are from different generations. You and your first cousins are in the same generation (two generations younger than your grandparents), so the word "removed" is not used to describe your relationship.The words "once removed" mean that there is a difference of one generation. For example, your mother's first cousin is your first cousin, once removed. This is because your mother's first cousin is one generation younger than your grandparents and you are two generations younger than your grandparents. This one-generation difference equals "once removed."Twice removed means that there is a two-generation difference. You are two generations younger than a first cousin of your grandmother, so you and your grandmother's first cousin are first cousins, twice removed.Relationship Charts Simplify EverythingNow that you have an idea of what these different words mean, take a look at the chart below. It's called a relationship chart, and it can help you figure out how different people in your family are related. It's much simpler than it looks, just follow the instructions. Instructions for Using a Relationship Chart 1. Pick two people in your family and figure out which ancestor they have in common. For example, if you chose yourself and a cousin, you would have a grandparent in common. 2. Look at the top row of the chart and find the first person's relationship to the common ancestor. 3. Look at the far left column of the chart and find the second person's relationship to the common ancestor. 4. Determine where the row and column containing those two relationships meet. CommonAncestor Child Grandchild G-grandchild G-g-grandchild Child Sister or Brother Nephew or Niece Grand-nephew or niece G-grand-nephew or niece Grandchild Nephew or Niece First cousin First cousin, once removed First cousin, twice removed G-grandchild Grand-nephew or niece First cousin, once removed Second cousin Second cousin, once removed G-g-grandchild G-grand-nephew or niece First cousin, twice removed Second cousin, once removed Third cousin Just When You Thought You Had itWhen you are working with older records, be aware that the meaning of the word "cousin," along with the meanings of other relationship terms, have changed over time. The Glossary section of the Learning Center can help you with any confusing relationship terms, including those in Latin. About the AuthorThis article was written by Genealogy.com staff. Brian M Morley Ipswich Queensland Australia

Hello All, Thought this web site might interest a few. It gives origins and meanings of names http://www.behindthename.com Mary of Melbourne

23rd June 1857, Spring Creek, Walter Davis (parents George Davis and Mary Anne Starkins) 30th May 1857 Beechworth, Agnes Smith (parents Thomas Smith and Agnes Steel) 29th April 1857 Three Mile Creek, William John Johnson (parents Robert Porteus Johnson and Jane Dorman) 5th July 1857 Snake Valley, Alexander Steele (Alexander Steel and Mary Wilson) 28th June 1857 Lower Woolshed, Margaret Gready (O'Grady) (James Gready/O'Grady and Ann Barry)

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6914794134&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:AU:1 This may interest someone on the list D

A lot left the northeast for the Gold fields of W.A from what I have read in the past, but I've decided to buy some birth certificates and then progress from there hoping they give his occupation. Writing from the Agricultural Department in Hamel came as a bit of a shock to me for grandfather. WORK! But as his family grew and he returned to Victoria the final tally was 9 children and one fostered. Had to feed them on something I guess. Thanks for the imput folks, and Jenny thanks for the link. I'll let you know what he was doing over there! Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenda Matthews" <glenda@mattronics.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Circa 1899-1906 - leaving the High country > Hi Denise, > Yes, my ggfather left the NE and ended up in WA. Don't know if he went > straight there or went to other places first. But I do know what he left > behind - wife and 5 children! Ended up in Cannington and worked on several > engineering projects - water, etc. in WA. Don't know if went there for > gold - timing about 1900. > Glenda > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 6:01 PM > Subject: [HC] Circa 1899-1906 - leaving the High country > > > > Hi all > > > > Does anyone have an ancestor who left the northeast and went to W.A. in > particular the Hamel - Wooroona area,south of Perth? > > > > Try to establish if there was a good reason why someone would leave the > northeast and go there. > > > > regards > > Denise >

Same Denise I have two Great Uncles from Talbotville, Dargo who left there, for WA on their war dosier it say employed in WA They resettled after the first war back at Talbotville. Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: <JnnyB@aol.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 7:52 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Circa 1899-1906 - leaving the High country Hi Denise, Some info: HAMEL Latitude : 32 52 S Longitude : 115 55 E Situated 3 km south of Waroona in the south west, Hamel was gazetted a townsite in 1899. It was named in compliment to Mr Lancal V de Hamel, the former owner of the land where the townsite is situated. De Hamel was a prominent Member of Parliament, the former MLA for Albany, and had passed away at Coolgardie on 26th of November 1894. The land for the townsite was purchased from de Hamel's estate in 1898 and subdivided by the Department of Lands and Surveys. from Department of Land Information W.A. www.dli.wa.gov.au/corporate.nsf/ web/History+of+country+town+names+-+h - 25k An interesting site for all W.A. places. Denise, I guess you know the 1890s was when gold was discovered in various places in W.A. Also there are the contingents to the Boer War that were raised there at this time. Jenny

Hi Denise, Yes, my ggfather left the NE and ended up in WA. Don't know if he went straight there or went to other places first. But I do know what he left behind - wife and 5 children! Ended up in Cannington and worked on several engineering projects - water, etc. in WA. Don't know if went there for gold - timing about 1900. Glenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 6:01 PM Subject: [HC] Circa 1899-1906 - leaving the High country > Hi all > > Does anyone have an ancestor who left the northeast and went to W.A. in particular the Hamel - Wooroona area,south of Perth? > > Try to establish if there was a good reason why someone would leave the northeast and go there. > > regards > Denise

Hi Denise, Whilst agreeing with Peter, I have several families that left Stanley and Beechworth to go to WA for Gold Gold Gold, unfortunately, by the time they got there it was on the decline, They left in the late 1800,s cheers Hec -----Original Message----- From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] Sent: Saturday, 24 July 2004 6:01 PM To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HC] Circa 1899-1906 - leaving the High country Hi all Does anyone have an ancestor who left the northeast and went to W.A. in particular the Hamel - Wooroona area,south of Perth? Try to establish if there was a good reason why someone would leave the northeast and go there. regards Denise

Um... possibly insanity? On second thoughts, if they left at this time of year it could have been frostbite? Peter (in freezing Osbornes Flat). ----- Original Message ----- From: Denise <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 6:01 PM Subject: [HC] Circa 1899-1906 - leaving the High country > Hi all > > Does anyone have an ancestor who left the northeast and went to W.A. in particular the Hamel - Wooroona area,south of Perth? > > Try to establish if there was a good reason why someone would leave the northeast and go there. > > regards > Denise >

Hi all Does anyone have an ancestor who left the northeast and went to W.A. in particular the Hamel - Wooroona area,south of Perth? Try to establish if there was a good reason why someone would leave the northeast and go there. regards Denise

Hi Denise, Some info: HAMEL Latitude : 32 52 S Longitude : 115 55 E Situated 3 km south of Waroona in the south west, Hamel was gazetted a townsite in 1899. It was named in compliment to Mr Lancal V de Hamel, the former owner of the land where the townsite is situated. De Hamel was a prominent Member of Parliament, the former MLA for Albany, and had passed away at Coolgardie on 26th of November 1894. The land for the townsite was purchased from de Hamel's estate in 1898 and subdivided by the Department of Lands and Surveys. from Department of Land Information W.A. www.dli.wa.gov.au/corporate.nsf/ web/History+of+country+town+names+-+h - 25k An interesting site for all W.A. places. Denise, I guess you know the 1890s was when gold was discovered in various places in W.A. Also there are the contingents to the Boer War that were raised there at this time. Jenny