Hi Denise, No need for look ups as I have him pinned, married to a cousin of mine and living in your part of Australia. Thanks for the offer. Cheers Ray. ----- Original Message ----- From: Denise <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Hollonds > Ray,/Joan hi. > > My friend feels now that this family is not the one he's after, although no > solid proof yes or no, it looks like probably not. Have not investigated > any further, letting him do his own work! > I can look up the BDMs for you if you need help finding him, if you have any > clues dates etc to start me off > regards > Denise > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joan" <joanmck@cv.quik.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 9:29 PM > Subject: Re: [HC] Hollonds > > > > Hi Denise, > > Is there a George Hollonds in this family please. > > Cheers Ray. > >

Hello Ray, This is a good thought, something that had not occurred to me. I really need to know the 'system' and how it was run in those days as I expect that not all documentation has found its way to the PRO or may have been thrown out as 'not important'. For the moment I have put this research on hold and am writing up my findings (or lack of ) so far and highlighting what I need to do in the future. One seems to be contacting the courts and seeing if there is an advisory or archival reference. Thanks for your thoughts. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan" <joanmck@cv.quik.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [HC] RESEARCH - UPDATE > Hi Mary, > I am not sure how congested the Courts were in those days, but > in the late 50s > early 60s, you could wait anything up to 3 or 4 years before this type of > case came before the Court. > I have vivid memories of a case that happened (the accident) in January > 1960, this case came before the Court in September 1964. Don't limit your > vision to just 1943/44, as the Coroner may have taken quite a long time to > get test results back and the to study them, so look further, > perhaps to1946 for a result. > Cheers Ray.

Ray,/Joan hi. My friend feels now that this family is not the one he's after, although no solid proof yes or no, it looks like probably not. Have not investigated any further, letting him do his own work! I can look up the BDMs for you if you need help finding him, if you have any clues dates etc to start me off regards Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan" <joanmck@cv.quik.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Hollonds > Hi Denise, > Is there a George Hollonds in this family please. > Cheers Ray.

Hi Mary, I am not sure how congested the Courts were in those days, but in the late 50s early 60s, you could wait anything up to 3 or 4 years before this type of case came before the Court. I have vivid memories of a case that happened (the accident) in January 1960, this case came before the Court in September 1964. Don't limit your vision to just 1943/44, as the Coroner may have taken quite a long time to get test results back and the to study them, so look further, perhaps to1946 for a result. Cheers Ray. ----- Original Message ----- From: MM <elthamlax@techinfo.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 12:34 PM Subject: [HC] RESEARCH - UPDATE > Hello Friends, > Continuing on from my research to find this elusive Inquest I viewed VPRS > 12421 Index Cases Entered for Trial in the Supreme Court at the PRO for the > 1943/44 period but there was no record of a court case being held in > relation to the accident. Unfortunately Civil Case Files VPRS 267 is closed > for this period. > There is Court Records VPRS 292 for Petty Sessions, Cause List and Licensing > Registers, but I am not sure it will be in any of these; but will order. > In the meantime I have been to the State Library and looked at various > papers for the period. Local newspaper for the Clifton Hill only goes to > the late 1930's but I did look at the Northcote newspaper (adjoining suburb) > for the period 20/1/1943 - 30/12/44 but there was no mention. > I viewed the Melbourne Leader for the period but it only contained rural > topics. The Weekly Times reported various topics such as Sport, the War > and Rural but not my topic. I also viewed the Herald, Sun, Argus and The > Age for the period and whilst there was a record of the accident in the Age > there was nothing in the others. It was interesting to note that whilst > various other cases held in Coroner's Court were reported for this same > period there was no mention of this inquest. The Coroner reported in these > cases was Mr. Tingate who was the same person mentioned in the death > certificate of the person/s I am looking for. > I was unable to spend more time at the Library looking at the reels as I > wanted to have a look around and lost a happy hour in the Cowen Gallery > looking at the portraits, most of whom were prominent settlers of Victoria > (Henty's etc.) and the landscapes. > However I did have an interesting conversation with a 75 year old man on > the next viewer who was left in a basket at a foundling home and a few years > ago met his brother for the first time. He also found he had three older > brothers who had since died. Ironically his newly found brother was in the > phone book three entries apart. He has written a book called The Lonely > Years - An Orphan's Story which will be published later in the year. > Mary of Melbourne > > > > Hello Mary, > > This research must assist you in the long run as you learn so much from > the > > chase. Was there anything in any local or even metro papers at the time? > > If you have an address, for the location or for the deceased, and it was > not > > too long ago, a chat to the neighbours might turn something up. Good > luck. > > Glenda > > > > > > > Hello Listers, > > > Seeing as things are so quiet of late I thought I would relate one of my > > current projects. It may help some with ideas of how to find > > information.................and I apologise in advance to those who > already > >

Thank You Shelly At 09:20 PM 8/9/2004, you wrote: >Hi Jackie > >Herbert isn't mentioned in the Memorials Index & Transcriptions section of >my CD, only in the burials section, meaning that he has no headstone.

Hi Denise, All is forgiven, I am sometimes known as Mr Joan Cheers Ray. ----- Original Message ----- From: Denise <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Omeo Schools > Ah, make that Ray, sorry Ray. Snr moment > Denise > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 9:32 PM > Subject: Re: [HC] Omeo Schools > > > > Thank you Joan, I'll send your info thru to my friend - he is in > Melbourne > > so he can do some hunting. > > regards > > Denise > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Joan" <joanmck@cv.quik.com.au> > > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 9:32 PM > > Subject: Re: [HC] Omeo Schools > > > > > > > Hi Denise, > > > Have you tried the Education History Unit, in Melbourne, > > > phone(03)96372818. > > > I have found them very helpful, if they don't have what you are after > they > > > certainly try > > > to find where it is and let you know. You may have to have someone go in > > and > > > physicaly > > > check if there are several years to be checked. > > > Cheers Ray. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Denise <denisem@powerup.com.au> > > > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 7:36 AM > > > Subject: [HC] Omeo Schools > > > > > > > > > > Hi list > > > > > > > > I'm helping a friend who lives in Melbourne locate a missing cousin > who > > > was given away/adopted after her birth in 1920. Her birth mother died > a > > > year or two ago and this surprise was awaiting everyone. > > > > > > > > We have found a woman who died some time ago and is the only one on > the > > > Cds who could possibly fit. The surname differs but the Christian names > > > year of birth etc apparently are the same. > > > > > > > > My friend is hoping to find out if this woman went to school in Omeo > > > (where her death c says she was born) and hopefully this way he could > > trace > > > some more particulars. He has NOT contacted the family of the deceased > > > woman, feeling until he has more to make it possibly the right woman, he > > > doesn't want to upset anyone. > > > > > > > > Any help on how to access these records. Rate notices are another > good > > > source, are they held anywhere but Omeo, has anyone had reason to go > thru > > > them before? > > > > > > > > regards > > > > Denise > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hi Denise, Is there a George Hollonds in this family please. Cheers Ray. ----- Original Message ----- From: Denise <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 12:37 AM Subject: [HC] Hollonds > Looking for the Hollonds family of Omeo and area. Is anyone connected? > regards > Denise > >

Hi Jackie Herbert isn't mentioned in the Memorials Index & Transcriptions section of my CD, only in the burials section, meaning that he has no headstone. Also checked to see if anyone else is buried with him and he is all alone in that plot. Regards Shelley Morgan (Previously from Wangaratta, Victoria now living in Albury, NSW) X-Message: #3 Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2004 08:54:50 +1000 From: Jackie <diveful@iprimus.com.au> To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.0.20040808085316.01ba5230@pop.iprimus.com.au> Subject: Wangaratta Cemetery Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi all, Am wondering if someone could possibly find out for me if there is a headstone at Wangaratta Cemetery for: Herbert M. ROCHE buried 7 April 1956 Section: Roman Catholic No. 2 Plot: 121 N Also if anyone is buried with him. Thank you __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp

Thanks very much, Kerry. This helps put a little more flesh on the bones. I have no-one left to ask about things. I will print this and add it to the Family History notes. Regards Irene R -------Original Message------- From: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Date: 08/08/04 16:30:06 To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HC] Irene the Nolans Hi Irene just some info for you.

Hi Irene just some info for you. (Molly Kingwill (Lanigan) talking about how she went from Grant to Crooked river early 1900's) "One day my mother received a letter from her cousin to say that their uncle Mr John Nolan, of Crooked River wanted to see her. She sent dad down to Crooked river to see what he wanted. He requested that our family come down to the Crooked area to live with him on his farm until he died, and in return he would leave my mum his farm. Mum was quite elated, but dad was a bit doubtful. Uncle Johns offer was accepted though and the big pack up began. The Kingwill's were moving again! Everything was loaded onto pack horses and lots of people helped us shift down to the valley. My father thought to go into an old man's home with five young children, might be too much for the old man to suffer, but uncle John was such a dear old person and he soon came to love us all. He was a very old and even his mare would lean over for him so he could get on more easily. She too was getting weary. (she now talks about school days, the farm, what they grew stockmen, cattle, other families, (our old house the Culhanes) family outings etc..) One evening coming home from school, we were met by one of my little brothers who told us that mum had said to come home very quietly as dear old uncle John had died. To me this seemed really too much. I had just never thought of him dying, and for my parents it must have been a terrible ordeal. Dad had to go down to the paddock and catch a horse and then ride the eight miles to the little township of Talbotville to tell the people there that Uncle John had died. The owner of the store at Talbotville Mr Stout, was JP, undertaker and "jack of all trades". He prepared a coffin, and the news spread up and down the valley fairly quickly. Our mother started to prepare for a busy time. Her brother came to our house that evening and he would only talk in a whisper which made things very eerie. Mum must have been up all night as she made him a beautiful shroud out of some lovely cream material that she had in the house. I can remember the policeman from Dargo arriving to issue a death certificate. Uncle John was nearly ninety-five years old. The funeral day came, and dad had cut two saplings from the bush and striped them. He threaded them into two chaff bags to make a stretcher. Mum put a sheet and pillow case on the stretcher. This was set up in our main room. Dad and some other men carried Uncle John out of his room and placed him on the stretcher. Mum put the sheet up around him including a beautiful floral tribute that one of the neighbours had made. Dad got a large strap from the shed and made uncle John secure, as he had to be carried about eight miles to his last resting place at the Talbotville cemetery (she now talks about other events etc..) Then she is asked a question: How big was the house that thirteen of you lived in Molly? "Uncle John's house had three rooms when we arrived. There was Uncle John's bedroom and the bedroom that my parents used and they both opened onto a large living room with a big open fireplace, mum did all the cooking on this. There was no stove. Dad built two more rooms for us children, and we had a verandah out the front. The original house was from hand hewn slabs. (she now talks about how they survived with home made soap, candles, salted beef, etc.. What about old people Molly? "They were all looked after in the family home. It was just the way things were done. They were a part of the family. Our Uncle john was a wonderful part of our lives. There was no old people's homes about in those days. Will send a photo of Uncle John Nolan and the house by private e-mail Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Irene R" <ivrbjr@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [HC] Has List departed? Hi Denise That's a relief. I was just about to have withdrawal symptoms! Regards Irene -------Original Message------- From: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Date: 08/07/04 08:10:26 To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HC] Has List departed? Hi Irene you came thru OK Denise

Hi all, Am wondering if someone could possibly find out for me if there is a headstone at Wangaratta Cemetery for: Herbert M. ROCHE buried 7 April 1956 Section: Roman Catholic No. 2 Plot: 121 N Also if anyone is buried with him. Thank you

Hi List I am wondering if SKS would be researching the above surname living in MERRIJIG near Mansfield in 1890 we are not related to the family but William GAMBLE of the above location was the Licensed carer of our John Frederick NEWELL, This is John's his last known location Pamela NEWELL

Thanks so much, Kerry. I'll look forward to what you have when you are ready Regards Irene

Hi Irene don't part as I have some interesting Nolan info to give you, haven't had time yet to type it up Mainly on John Nolan and the Kingswell's who moved in to live with him until he died in his nineties at Crooked River Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Irene R" <ivrbjr@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [HC] Has List departed? Hi Denise That's a relief. I was just about to have withdrawal symptoms! Regards Irene -------Original Message------- From: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Date: 08/07/04 08:10:26 To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HC] Has List departed? Hi Irene you came thru OK Denise

And just in case you exhausted the cemetery web site, and you have rellies from Derbyshire check out this page. I wish I had one !!!!!!!!!!!! Mary of Melbourne http://www.wirksworth.org.uk/ This big website is handwritten in simple HTML 3.0 code, allowing quick and easy creation of complex new pages and editing of existing data, ensuring the site always holds the latest information by frequent updating, and is checked with Explorer 6.0 and Navigator 6.2. There are about 7 million words in the website, which has 662 images and 1,419 text pages listing 12,000 surnames found in 424,000 records held in 70 databases covering 300 years. The 68 Mb website has 175,000 internal links, averaged 429 visitors and 73 internal searches per day in 2004 and received over 1,250 fanmails.

For those who have spare time this site should occupy you for nearly a week. Mary of Melbourne http://gye.future.easyspace.com/

Hi Denise That's a relief. I was just about to have withdrawal symptoms! Regards Irene -------Original Message------- From: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Date: 08/07/04 08:10:26 To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HC] Has List departed? Hi Irene you came thru OK Denise

Hi Irene you came thru OK Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Irene R" <ivrbjr@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 7:57 AM Subject: [HC] Has List departed? > I have had no mail from this usually chatty list, so decided I might have > been unsubbed because of the strange goings-on with Rootsweb Lists at the > moment. > > I received a non-delivery message stating that Gizmo couldn't find any host > named rootsweb. Has our dear departed come to a sticky end please? > > Regards > > Irene R > >

I have had no mail from this usually chatty list, so decided I might have been unsubbed because of the strange goings-on with Rootsweb Lists at the moment. I received a non-delivery message stating that Gizmo couldn't find any host named rootsweb. Has our dear departed come to a sticky end please? Regards Irene R

Hello everyone, Does anyone recognise these people? Daniel Charles O'Connor died Beechworth 1906 and his unmarried sister Charlotte Mary died Beechworth 1929. Their brother Joseph Silvester had 2 children with his wife Ada (Norton) at Beechworth in 1885 & 1888. Also trying to establish if Charlotte Elizabeth O'Connor (nee Campbell) who died in 1879 is buried with them. Are any Beechworth cemetery records available? Looking for other occupants of graves to help ID relatives. Jenny