unsubscribe ----- Original Message ----- From: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 9:03 PM Subject: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-D Digest V04 #458

Hi Wendy, Thanks for the reply, I have the birth of those 3 children, but on Alice Walsh's birth cert it shows Ellen Hart nee Mahoney as having 4 living children, so there is still a missing child, not to mention Williams death. In 1858 Ellen was 40 making her birth date as 1818 so there is a huge age difference with William who died in 1847 aged 42. Do you think this is likely? I also wonder why he would have been in Brighton at the time of his death. I will get the death certificate for William, hopefully it may give us a clue. Thanks again, Zola ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy" <wendyfensom@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Hart > Hi Zola, > > My guess is that it could be one of these two - probably the second one. > The parish aligns with the birth of the daughter (registered in 1849) even > though your record shows 1848. So he may have died late in 1847 - after the > child was conceived. It looks as though there were two other children as > well (see below). Back in those days people often took a long time to get > around to registering births, and don't forget, the Registry Office did not > commence until December 1853 (I think) so these are old church records. > > Hope this is of some help, > Wendy > > > Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 > > Query > ----- > Surname : hart (1645 matches) > Given Names : wm* (141169 matches) > Event : d (418821 matches) > > Total matching records: 27 > -------------------- > > Surname: HART > Given Names: William > Event: D > Spouse Surname/Father: > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: > Age: 40 > Sex: M > Birth Place: > Death Place: BRIGHTON > Year: 1847 > Reg Number: 20230 > Denomination: Church of England > Parish: ST ANDREWS, BRIGHTON > Fiche: 317 > > Surname: HART > Given Names: William > Event: D > Spouse Surname/Father: > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: > Age: 42 > Sex: M > Birth Place: > Death Place: BRIGHTON > Year: 1847 > Reg Number: 4309 > Denomination: Church of England > Parish: ST JAMES, MELBOURNE > Fiche: 1076 > > > > > Surname: HART > Given Names: Emily > Event: B > Spouse Surname/Father: William > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ellen > Age: > Sex: > Birth Place: MELB > Death Place: > Year: 1843 > Reg Number: 13381 > Denomination: Church of England > Parish: ST JAMES, MELBOURNE > Fiche: 274 > > Surname: HART > Given Names: Mary Elizabeth > Event: B > Spouse Surname/Father: William > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ellen > Age: > Sex: F > Birth Place: PORTLAND > Death Place: > Year: 1845 > Reg Number: 30669 > Denomination: Church of England > Parish: ST STEPHENS, PORTLAND > Fiche: 447 > > Surname: HART > Given Names: Ellen > Event: B > Spouse Surname/Father: William > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ellen > Age: > Sex: > Birth Place: OVENS RIV > Death Place: > Year: 1849 > Reg Number: 16119 > Denomination: Church of England > Parish: ST JAMES, MELBOURNE > Fiche: 290 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zola Ortenburg" <zolaortenburg@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 9:06 PM > Subject: [HC] Hart > > > > Can anyone help me find the death of William HART. I have a b/cert for a > > child Alice Walsh born to Ellen Mahoney - widow of William Hart in 1858 at > > Wangaratta. > > Ellen's & William Hart's previous chid was born in 1848 at Ovens River. > So > > some time between 1848 & 1858 William is purported to have died. > > Zola > > > > > >

Spare births certs for: Walter Leslie Paull 20-9-1894, Kinchingtons Creek, son of Walter Paull and Elizabeth Kinchington Clyde Marshall Butson 30-9-1894, Yackandandah, son of Eliza Butson John Blewett 25-10-1894, Hillsborough, son of WIlliam Blewett and Alice Waterson Charlotte Victoria Bakes 28-11-1894, Back Creek, daughter of Joseph Bakes and Eliza Doonan Jessie Blair 17-11-1894, Long Swamp, daughter of Andrew Blair and Annie Garvey

Hi Zola, My guess is that it could be one of these two - probably the second one. The parish aligns with the birth of the daughter (registered in 1849) even though your record shows 1848. So he may have died late in 1847 - after the child was conceived. It looks as though there were two other children as well (see below). Back in those days people often took a long time to get around to registering births, and don't forget, the Registry Office did not commence until December 1853 (I think) so these are old church records. Hope this is of some help, Wendy Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 Query ----- Surname : hart (1645 matches) Given Names : wm* (141169 matches) Event : d (418821 matches) Total matching records: 27 -------------------- Surname: HART Given Names: William Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Age: 40 Sex: M Birth Place: Death Place: BRIGHTON Year: 1847 Reg Number: 20230 Denomination: Church of England Parish: ST ANDREWS, BRIGHTON Fiche: 317 Surname: HART Given Names: William Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Age: 42 Sex: M Birth Place: Death Place: BRIGHTON Year: 1847 Reg Number: 4309 Denomination: Church of England Parish: ST JAMES, MELBOURNE Fiche: 1076 Surname: HART Given Names: Emily Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: William Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ellen Age: Sex: Birth Place: MELB Death Place: Year: 1843 Reg Number: 13381 Denomination: Church of England Parish: ST JAMES, MELBOURNE Fiche: 274 Surname: HART Given Names: Mary Elizabeth Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: William Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ellen Age: Sex: F Birth Place: PORTLAND Death Place: Year: 1845 Reg Number: 30669 Denomination: Church of England Parish: ST STEPHENS, PORTLAND Fiche: 447 Surname: HART Given Names: Ellen Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: William Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ellen Age: Sex: Birth Place: OVENS RIV Death Place: Year: 1849 Reg Number: 16119 Denomination: Church of England Parish: ST JAMES, MELBOURNE Fiche: 290 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zola Ortenburg" <zolaortenburg@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 9:06 PM Subject: [HC] Hart > Can anyone help me find the death of William HART. I have a b/cert for a > child Alice Walsh born to Ellen Mahoney - widow of William Hart in 1858 at > Wangaratta. > Ellen's & William Hart's previous chid was born in 1848 at Ovens River. So > some time between 1848 & 1858 William is purported to have died. > Zola > >

Hello Ronda, Alexander Hays mother Ann Russel, father Alexander, birth place Ireland, aged 25 in 1866. Hope this helps, Zola ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronda Shambrook" <shambrookdr@dcsi.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 9:52 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Alexander Hayes > Hi Zola, > > Thanks for looking him up for me. > He was buried in 1866 at the Yackandandah cemetery, and was aged 25. > May have been listed as either Hays or Hayes. > > Ronda > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zola Ortenburg" <zolaortenburg@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 5:12 PM > Subject: Re: [HC] Alexander Hayes > > > > Hi Ronda, > > There is a Alexander Hayes, died 1859, aged 45, Father unknown. That's > the > > only Alexander I can see. Lets know if you have any more details to go > on. > > Regards, Zola > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ronda Shambrook" <shambrookdr@dcsi.net.au> > > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 3:19 PM > > Subject: [HC] Alexander Hayes > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > Could some one with the death Pioneer CD please look up the details > for > > Alexander Hayes, died 1866, for me please? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Ronda > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hi Zola, Thanks for looking him up for me. He was buried in 1866 at the Yackandandah cemetery, and was aged 25. May have been listed as either Hays or Hayes. Ronda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zola Ortenburg" <zolaortenburg@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Alexander Hayes > Hi Ronda, > There is a Alexander Hayes, died 1859, aged 45, Father unknown. That's the > only Alexander I can see. Lets know if you have any more details to go on. > Regards, Zola > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ronda Shambrook" <shambrookdr@dcsi.net.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 3:19 PM > Subject: [HC] Alexander Hayes > > > > Hello, > > > > Could some one with the death Pioneer CD please look up the details for > Alexander Hayes, died 1866, for me please? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Ronda > > > > > >

Can anyone help me find the death of William HART. I have a b/cert for a child Alice Walsh born to Ellen Mahoney - widow of William Hart in 1858 at Wangaratta. Ellen's & William Hart's previous chid was born in 1848 at Ovens River. So some time between 1848 & 1858 William is purported to have died. Zola

Hi Ronda, There is a Alexander Hayes, died 1859, aged 45, Father unknown. That's the only Alexander I can see. Lets know if you have any more details to go on. Regards, Zola ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronda Shambrook" <shambrookdr@dcsi.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 3:19 PM Subject: [HC] Alexander Hayes > Hello, > > Could some one with the death Pioneer CD please look up the details for Alexander Hayes, died 1866, for me please? > > Thanks, > > Ronda > >

Hello, Could some one with the death Pioneer CD please look up the details for Alexander Hayes, died 1866, for me please? Thanks, Ronda

----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [HC] FOSTER - MARY MM > I am sure this guy was the son of A Foster the newsagent/stationer Mary.. > > Denise > > > >I don't think this is yours, but something to add to the file perhaps... > > > > http://nla.gov.au/nla.ms-ms805 > > > > > >>> I've been doing this all night and found some great things > >> > >> Denise > >> > > > > >

Hi Listers My Patrick RATH came to Oz as a guard on a convict ship, 'Lady Nugent' in 1835. His first three children were born in UK, the fourth aboard ship, and the last four in NSW. The first died in Condoblin NSW, the next five in Beechworth, the seventh in the Ovens Dist Hospital, and my ancestor, Catherine (Kate) died in Orbost. The children were: Mary b 1828 Derby ENG d 1922 Condoblin NSW (Cornelius BYRUM) Thomas b 1830 Lancs ENG d 1886 Beechworth (Annie GILCHRIST) Anne b ca 1832 Dublin d 1867 Beechworth (Unknown) John b ca 1833 aboard ship d 1901 Beechworth (Bridget SWEENEY) Margaret b 1837 NSW d 1885 Beechworth (Unknown) Michael b 1838 Sydney d 1921 Beechworth (Catherine Unknown) Patrick (jnr) b ca1843 d 1913 Ovens Hospital (Unknown) Catherine b 1845 Sydney d 1930 Orbost (Thomas John McHENRY) Names in brackets are spouses. I am almost certain Patrick Sen had a brother John, in Forbes NSW as there was much to-ing and fro-ing between both families. If anyone has any further information about this family, I would love to exchange information with you. Regards Irene R

I am sure this guy was the son of A Foster the newsagent/stationer Mary.. Denise >I don't think this is yours, but something to add to the file perhaps... > > http://nla.gov.au/nla.ms-ms805 > > >>> I've been doing this all night and found some great things >> >> Denise >> >

I don't think this is yours, but something to add to the file perhaps... http://nla.gov.au/nla.ms-ms805 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 10:18 PM Subject: [HC] Have you tried this > going into your favourite search engine and putting in > > born in (example Beechworth) Victoria > died in ....... Victoria > > or whatever fits your research. > > I've been doing this all night and found some great things > > Denise >

going into your favourite search engine and putting in born in (example Beechworth) Victoria died in ....... Victoria or whatever fits your research. I've been doing this all night and found some great things Denise

In my spare time (whatever this is) I am working on the UK cenus team. and thought I should pass this message on from our forum ----------------------------------------------- Dear All, My workplace has just annouced that they are going to pull a particular model of microfiche reader out of service. This was due to an incident of electric shock. The model is the Canon 300L universal microfiche reader. As they are quitting all 300L's the problem appears to be inherent in all. If you have one of these machines, I suggest that you get it checked over by a reliable electrician. regards gabrielle Argyllshire Coordinator --------------------------------------------------- Regards Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 9:16 AM Subject: [HC] Western Aust - marriages http://www.openwindows.com/marriage/search.htm from GENANZ list - for those who had relations vanish into W.A. reverse marriage look ups. Denise

unsubscribe ----- Original Message ----- From: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 1:00 AM Subject: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-D Digest V04 #454

Hi, Some time ago I was in contact with Julie, she had not done a lot of genealogy for awhile as she had been unwell. She contacted me for some info as her pc had crashed and she lost a lot of info. I have not had areply from her in the past 12 months. I would suspect that she is no longer maintaining or adding to her original sites Jenny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Irene R" <ivrbjr@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 11:28 PM Subject: [HC] Tracking our Families etc > Hi Listers > > Does anyone know where I can reach Julie Clift. I host some NE and HC > sites > on her Tracking our Family Footsteps in Time, but can't reach her to > change > my email address on the site. The email address on the site does not work > for me. > > Apologies for the cross-messaging > > Irene R > >

Will do, Denise. Haven't had a reply yet Irene R -------Original Message------- From: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Date: 09/05/04 11:14:50 To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HC] Tracking our Families etc Irene, I too need to get in touch, although my host job has not resulted in one email to me in 5 years. Guess that is because there is not a cemetery in the town I was allocated (g). If you find her, would you mind passing it along please? D > Hi Listers > > Does anyone know where I can reach Julie Clift. I host some NE and HC > sites on her Tracking our Family Footsteps in Time, but can't reach her to > change my email address on the site. The email address on the site does > not work > for me. > > Apologies for the cross-messaging > > Irene R >

Hi Zola, Your mother may have been a bit early for my cousins, but have contacted a friend who has a copy of the school rolls and he is going to look the names up for us. The cost of the book is $40-00, postage I don't know, as I haven't an address for you, or weight for the book. Cheers Ray. ----- Original Message ----- From: Zola Ortenburg <zolaortenburg@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 7:07 AM Subject: Re: [HC] Book Launch re: Edi History 1850 - 2002 > Hello Ray, > > My mothers name was Ella (Nell) BEACH, she came from a large family Ivy, > George, Olive, Gladys, Doris, Henry (Roy) & Allison. The eldest born 1811 > with the youngest 1911. My grandfather William grew tobacco, but I don't > know if he had his own farm. They were all born in the Edi, Moyhu, > Wangaratta area. Their father was William BETSCH, (Albury) however my > grandparents marriage/cert shows the name as BEACH. I would appreciate you > ordering me a copy of the book, let me know the cost including postage and I > will forward a cheque. > Many thanks, Zola > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joan" <joanmck@cv.quik.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 9:36 PM > Subject: Re: [HC] Book Launch re: Edi History 1850 - 2002 > > > > Hi Zola, > > Could you tell me what timeframe it was for your mother at Edi > > school, and her > > maiden name, as I had several cousins attend this school. I didn't attend > > Edi, but Moyhu > > about 6 miles closer to Wangaratta. > > If you wish I could have your name put on the list of early > > purchasers, I have known > > the author since early teens, (only a few years ago) and see him quite > > often. We both live > > in Wangaratta. > > > > Cheers Ray. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Zola Ortenburg <zolaortenburg@bigpond.com> > > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 11:30 AM > > Subject: Re: [HC] Book Launch re: Edi History 1850 - 2002 > > > > > > > Hello Shelley, > > > I would be most interested in the article from the Wang Chronicle, my > > mother > > > went briefly to Edi school and her family worked in the area. Please > > advise > > > how we can get a copy of the book. > > > Thanks Zola > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Shelley Morgan" <ssmaus@netscape.net> > > > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 6:30 PM > > > Subject: [HC] Book Launch re: Edi History 1850 - 2002 > > > > > > > > > > Hello Listers > > > > > > > > For those of you that are interested, there will be a book launch on > > > Sunday, 12 September 2004 from 1.30pm at the Edi Hall of the following > > book: > > > > > > > > 'Edi: The History of Early Selection & Settlement, 1850 - 2002' > > > > > > > > The author is John Newton, a fourth generation member of a well-known > > Edi > > > family (and also my cousin!!!) and the book is four years in the making. > > > > > > > > The book will be launched by Mr Ken Jasper (MLA, Murray Valley). > > > > > > > > There was a big article about this in the Wangaratta Chronicle on > > > Wednesday, 25 August 2004 pg 2. > > > > > > > > If anyone would like a copy, I can scan it & e-mail it to you. > > > > > > > > The book should be a very very interesting & enlightening read to all. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Shelley Morgan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > Switch to Netscape Internet Service. > > > > As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at > > > http://isp.netscape.com/register > > > > > > > > Netscape. Just the Net You Need. > > > > > > > > New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer > > > > Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. > > > > Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Irene, I too need to get in touch, although my host job has not resulted in one email to me in 5 years. Guess that is because there is not a cemetery in the town I was allocated (g). If you find her, would you mind passing it along please? D > Hi Listers > > Does anyone know where I can reach Julie Clift. I host some NE and HC > sites on her Tracking our Family Footsteps in Time, but can't reach her to > change my email address on the site. The email address on the site does > not work > for me. > > Apologies for the cross-messaging > > Irene R >