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Thanks Denise for all the USA links.....the guru here is making good use of them.... unfortunately his mother has come to a grinding holt!! Chris On Thursday, September 16, 2004, at 09:41 PM, Denise wrote: > For those of us who are hunting more on our families from the USA to > Northeast - > > http://vitalrecords.accessgenealogy.com/ > > Vital records of many if not all states - I've not counted them! > > Good luck > I've found a few > > Denise > >

Folks I should add that some of the sections on this link take you to Ancestry Com. However you will find some online vitals e.g. in Massachusetts which you can view free D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 9:41 PM Subject: [HC] USA descendants > For those of us who are hunting more on our families from the USA to > Northeast - > > http://vitalrecords.accessgenealogy.com/ > > Vital records of many if not all states - I've not counted them! > > Good luck > I've found a few > > Denise >

For those of us who are hunting more on our families from the USA to Northeast - http://vitalrecords.accessgenealogy.com/ Vital records of many if not all states - I've not counted them! Good luck I've found a few Denise

The beginning - Crawford - USA - Beechworth 1853 McNeil - Scotland - Albury 1852 Foster - USA - Beechworth 1863 and all branches Crawford/McNeil/Foster ---- John Curteis McCaul, Walter Crawford, Richard Malcolm Haeffner - Germany - Beechworth 1852 Conway - Ireland - Beechworth - 1853 and all branches Haeffner/Conway - -- John Staton, Henry John Rowe, Neil Sutherland, George Coleman, Walter Crawford, Fred Jarvis. --- all from northeast of Victoria. Denise

Many thanks to all who replied to my query on Buckland, especially Ian. I'll ask the forbearance of the list for a final clarification - as I mentioned, my visit up the valley was unexpected and a bit rushed so I'm working from memory and a bunch of photos I took at likely looking spots. I assume "the bridge" referred to by several listers is the one at the end of the bitumen road about 200 m (from memory) before the cemetery, and not another one further back towards Porepunkah that I may have zoomed over without really noticing :-) Going back to my original query, it seems to me that the general (lower) Buckland area (mining, and presumably where people lived as well) was where this bridge crosses the river and extended up towards the cemetery (one assumes they didn't plonk the cemetery in amongst the settlement) and presumably upstream for as far as the lode was paying. "Lower Buckland Flat" thus seems to be the area down by the river below the cemetery or there abouts. Ian, not quite clear on your description of Joss House Hill. The hill behind the cemetery is quite substantial - is this what you meant? Or one of the knolls or just a general area on the slope? Ann Shakespeare died at "Lower Flat, Buckland" in 1863 and was buried at "Joss House Hill" according to her death certificate. Certainly not Chinese, so I can't imagine that she would be buried anywhere other than the "usual" burial area. So, final queries - Was the Buckland cemetery visible today established in 1863? If so, would it be reasonable for it to be described as "Joss House Hill" then? Or does "Joss House Hill" conjure an area quite away from the present cemetery? Again, I'm most appreciative of the local knowledge. If anyone has a map or sketch of Buckland from the early days and is able to send me a copy, please contact me direct (see below) - I'll gladly pay costs, of course. Regards Malcolm greatbedwyn@bigpond.com > -----Original Message----- > From: hillhouse2@bigpond.com [mailto:hillhouse2@bigpond.com] > Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2004 5:56 PM > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HC] Buckland area > > my previous email went into the ether so here is a copy > I agree with Kerry in her descriptions. > On leaving Porepunkah the first area about 6 mile up the Valley around > Devil’s Creek was known as Brookside. The Brookside School was on the > rise just over the bridge. Brookside area probably covered up to the > first cutting past Lumsden’s.Lower Buckland probably covered the area > from the bridge up past the cemetery. Most of the stores and hotels at > lower Buckland were around the flat near the river before the rise to > the cemetery. > >  The original Joss house was on this flat between the road and the > river. When one of the dredges went through that area the Joss house > was moved to the right hand side of the road up the hill and this is > the area that I know as Joss house hill. > Upper Buckland probably stretched from the junction of the right and > left branches of the Buckland river upstream including Beveridge’s > paddocks. > I will check my Uncle’s hand drawn map for “lower flat”.( He was a > Davidson fromBrookside) > >  In my younger days  even those terms (Brookside, upper and lower > Buckland) were rarely used for the areas, rather areas were identified > by the names of the owners of the farms by the road or by the name of > the creeks that joined the Buckland > > > > Ian Payne

my previous email went into the ether so here is a copy I agree with Kerry in her descriptions. On leaving Porepunkah the first area about 6 mile up the Valley around Devil’s Creek was known as Brookside. The Brookside School was on the rise just over the bridge. Brookside area probably covered up to the first cutting past Lumsden’s.Lower Buckland probably covered the area from the bridge up past the cemetery. Most of the stores and hotels at lower Buckland were around the flat near the river before the rise to the cemetery.  The original Joss house was on this flat between the road and the river. When one of the dredges went through that area the Joss house was moved to the right hand side of the road up the hill and this is the area that I know as Joss house hill. Upper Buckland probably stretched from the junction of the right and left branches of the Buckland river upstream including Beveridge’s paddocks. I will check my Uncle’s hand drawn map for “lower flat”.( He was a Davidson fromBrookside)  In my younger days  even those terms (Brookside, upper and lower Buckland) were rarely used for the areas, rather areas were identified by the names of the owners of the farms by the road or by the name of the creeks that joined the Buckland   Ian Payne

Wisconsin is a small state [there are only 5 million of us cheezeheads] but we do love our state library! So if you have Midwestern family-- First try the ancestry online census indices. Second I might find some help in the state library. I'll be by there next weekend so lets know. Clare

I found some of my uncle's notes further to my last email. Lower Buckland school was before Dumphey creek and the cemetery.(ie between the bridge and the cemetery) The upper Buckland school was below the junction of the right and left branches of the Buckland River. I haven't found a reference to Lower flat but there was a Loudens Flat just below Clear creek (above the junction, left hand branch) The Joss House was moved in about 1907. Ian

Letter from Sarah Jane Smith (nee Hays) to her cousin Alice Blewett (nee Waterson) Alice's daughter Jean Blewett died on 1st September 1922, two days before her 14th birthday. "Riverslea" Tallandoon Sept 11th 1922 My Dear Alice I need not say how very very sorry we were to hear that your dear little girl had passed away. Will you all please accept our deepest sympathy in your very great sorrow. Oh how you must all miss her. We wonder why these things are dear Alice but we cannot understand its beyond us and we must submit to "him: who knows what is best for us all and try to bear up. May God comfort you all dear cousins and give your strength to bear this great sorrow. I will ask you again to accept our love and heartfelt sympathy from your loving cousin Janie Smith P.S. How are you keeping yourself dear Alice, we are very sorry indeed to hear of you being so ill but I hope dear cousin that your are feeling better than you were. I know what a shock it was for you. I am going to Yack soon & will try & go out to see you. Its years since I last say you. J.Smith

Thanks Pamela, I'll keep all that info for future reference. Much appreciated, Ronda ----- Original Message ----- From: "pamela" <pakash@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Francis Hayes - Wangaratta cem > Ronda > Hayes, Francis. Age 45; Buried 4 September 1936; Resided Benalla; Section > Roman Catholic No. 1; Plot 106N > > also > Section ROMAN CATHOLIC NO. 1 Plot 106N TOOHEY, SARAH ETHEL; Age 66 years; > Buried 11 Apr 1959; Resided WANGARATTA > > Section ROMAN CATHOLIC NO. 1 Plot 106N HAYES, FRANCIS; Age 45 years; Buried > 4 Sep 1936; Resided BENALLA > > Section ROMAN CATHOLIC NO. 1 Plot 106N NEWMAN, CHERYL; Age 0; Buried 9 Jun > 1967; Resided WANGARATTA > > > > TOOHEY, ETHEL.~ Age 66 YEARS; Died 9/04/1959; Buried 11/04/1959; Resided > > at FAITHFUL ST. WANGARATTA; Section R.C.; Plot 106 N. > > Inscription: > > IN LOVING MEMORY OF ETHEL TOOHEY WHO > > PASSED AWAY 9TH APRIL 1959 R.I.P. > > > No inscription for others. > > Pamela > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ronda Shambrook" <shambrookdr@dcsi.net.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 1:59 PM > Subject: [HC] Francis Hayes - Wangaratta cem > > > > Hello, > > > > I was wondering if there is someone with access to the Wangaratta cem > records who could please look up Francis Hays/Hayes who died in 1936 > (father's name James, mother Sarah). > > > > Thanks, > > > > Ronda > > > > > >

Ronda Hayes, Francis. Age 45; Buried 4 September 1936; Resided Benalla; Section Roman Catholic No. 1; Plot 106N also Section ROMAN CATHOLIC NO. 1 Plot 106N TOOHEY, SARAH ETHEL; Age 66 years; Buried 11 Apr 1959; Resided WANGARATTA Section ROMAN CATHOLIC NO. 1 Plot 106N HAYES, FRANCIS; Age 45 years; Buried 4 Sep 1936; Resided BENALLA Section ROMAN CATHOLIC NO. 1 Plot 106N NEWMAN, CHERYL; Age 0; Buried 9 Jun 1967; Resided WANGARATTA TOOHEY, ETHEL.~ Age 66 YEARS; Died 9/04/1959; Buried 11/04/1959; Resided at FAITHFUL ST. WANGARATTA; Section R.C.; Plot 106 N. Inscription: IN LOVING MEMORY OF ETHEL TOOHEY WHO PASSED AWAY 9TH APRIL 1959 R.I.P. No inscription for others. Pamela ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronda Shambrook" <shambrookdr@dcsi.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 1:59 PM Subject: [HC] Francis Hayes - Wangaratta cem > Hello, > > I was wondering if there is someone with access to the Wangaratta cem records who could please look up Francis Hays/Hayes who died in 1936 (father's name James, mother Sarah). > > Thanks, > > Ronda > >

Hello, I was wondering if there is someone with access to the Wangaratta cem records who could please look up Francis Hays/Hayes who died in 1936 (father's name James, mother Sarah). Thanks, Ronda

Extract of Henry Morgans Diary of Buckland July, 1882. lst. Saturday - Ben and I returned home. There has been some showery weather since we went up the river, but on the whole, the weather has been fair. Friday 7th. I have been engaged all this week in the gardens and have the lower garden all dug over and would probably finish the middle one tomorrow if fair- but rain is now falling and the river has risen from last nights rain. Ben and I planted this week onion seeds, tree onions, Potato Onions, Broad Beans, Field Peas, Dwarf Peas, set out about (blank) cabbage plants, Cauliflower, and got the gardens in general good order. The Shire Council of Bright at my recom­mendation, refused to pay Wm. Oakes a balance of £30.0.0 on an unfinished or defective contract on Omeo road at Mt. Blowhard. 9th. Sunday - weather fair. 10th. Ben and self started at 5 o'clock with wheelbarrow loaded with provision for our new locality, reaching there at 8 a.m. 16th. Sunday. Ben returned yesterday evening to Junction, and I returned this morning - found all well. Have hut covered. 23rd. Sunday, This week we mudded our hut and made a garden, planting out gooseberries, Cherry trees, Raspberries, Blackberries and Eldertrees. George kicked the sewing machine table over and broke the arm during the week. I was the greater part of the day repairing it. 24th. John Weston, a child of about sixteen months old, died this afternoon after a few hours illness, probably from congestion of the lungs. 25th. Made a coffin for John Weston. 26th. John Weston was buried at the Lower Flat cemetery. 27th. Ben and I reached our hut at Sapling Flat, as it is commonly called, at 12 o'clock last night. The night was cold and frosty. There was a little snow on the flat which fell on Tuesday evening. Planted Raspberries and other young trees. 29th. We returned home in the evening. I have been very unwell since Friday; last night I passed a wrestless night. Lady Di List Administrator

Extract of Henry Morgans Diary of Buckland January, 1882. 1st. Sunday - Last (week?) we did not work in the claim, but was engaged in garden, etc. Mother Hall is quite an invalid, not able to rise out of seat, but otherwise enjoying moderately good health. The Halls are hard up not finding any payable claim for several years. There was a frost the other night which even killed pumpkins two miles higher up the stream. 7th. Saturday - S. Paulussy, who is in bad health, has been in Beechworth this week. 14th. Saturday - our claim is only paying half wages and E. Webb and party below us is getting less than we are after considerable expense in driving a tunnel. 21st. Mrs. James Dunphy died on Thursday last, her new borne babe dying a few days before. She was an inveterate drunkard. This week our claim has paid about wages. 22nd. Mr. Andrew Maguire died on the night of this date at Jas. Johnson's at Wandiligong. He died of Bright's disease and his death was anticipated. 24th. Andrew Maguire was buried at the cemetery, Lower Flat Buckland - there being a large procession. Lady Di List Administrator

Extract of Henry Morgans Diary of Buckland June,1869. 1st. Erecting flume over ? wheel. 3rd. Fixing flume for starting wheel. 4th. Fixing trap door for discharge of water through. 5th. Started the trucks. At 2 o'clock set the mill going. It runs very well. Returning home in the evening found Jane and Ben quite ill of hooping cough. A very wet day. 6th. Sunday ­fair. Returned in the evening. 7th. Working about mill. 8th. Run the machine one shift. 9th. Quartz looking well. A good many repairs are being made about the mill. 11th. Putting up chimney at mill. 12th. Splitting cap pieces. Returned home. Janes little child Sarah is very ill and not expected to live. Grace and I passed the evening with them. 13th. Sunday. Grace was sent for at 3 o'clock this morning. Sarah gradually sinking. A little after five, father come over and said that the little girl had passed away quarter to five o'clock. A beautiful day but sad the event. 14th. I made the coffin. 15th. Little Sarah was buried at the Lower Flat Cemetery. 16th. Jane is getting better but Ben is more cross than ever. Returned to the Good Hope. 17th. Splitting cap pieces etc for the reef. 19th. Finished here and got home. 20th. Sunday. The children are somewhat better. 22nd. J. Williams child died. It was 10 weeks old. Grace and self went down to their place. I took Williams place at the Nelson reef running machine. G. Shippin consented to continue on from 12 at night until six in the morning 23rd and then I had day light for my shift. 23rd. Running machine. Williams's child was buried. 24th. Grace and I stayed at Williams's last night and to day am cutting firewood for him. 25th. Finished working for J. Williams. 26th. We bought a colonial oven and Grace is well pleased with it. 27th. Sunday - Mr. & Mrs. Williams was our guests. 29th. Had quarrel with Ah Moy and party in which Mrs. An Goon took part in their behalf. I turned the water down my race over their drives against their remonstrances as they would not use the water themselvs. Splitting paling for T Rodda. 30th. Sluicing in the claim with father and J. Walker. Lady Di List Administrator

Hi Malcolm I was raised in Myrtleford, hence know a bit about the area. Re * Was the town of Buckland where the cemetery is today? There was no actual town of Buckland, only a mining settlement but not a town. * In relation to the cemetery, where would "Lower Flat, Buckland" have been (ie down by the creek or downstream or....)? When you leave Porepunkah and travel a few kilometers past the farms and then over the bridge on the river you are then in Lower Buckland near the cemetery. Upper Buckland is much further up where the Beveridges used to live. * I have a reference to a burial at "Joss House Hill" - can anyone describe where this is/was in relation to the cemetery or other features in the valley? I have never heard of this but wouldn't be surprised if it is another name for the chinese cemetery there. Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Malcolm Ward" <greatbedwyn@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 3:26 PM Subject: [HC] Buckland area Hi I unexpectedly was able to pay a visit to the Buckland area, near Bright (where some ancestors were briefly in the gold rush) and am hoping listers can help me with some geography. I went up the valley past the cemetery, through "Twelve Mile" as far as the Junction. * Was the town of Buckland where the cemetery is today? * In relation to the cemetery, where would "Lower Flat, Buckland" have been (ie down by the creek or downstream or....)? * I have a reference to a burial at "Joss House Hill" - can anyone describe where this is/was in relation to the cemetery or other features in the valley? Regards Malcolm

Thank you Mary again. I've seen this entry in the book GALE referred to some time ago. But I keep digging on branch lines (g) in the US, finding a much, but sometimes frustrated by the Directories etc. regards Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "MM" <elthamlax@techinfo.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [HC] GALE] WEB SITE > Hello Denise, > The site does have a facility to email a web page but unfortunately does > not > inform who the sender is. > Hope this was new information for you. > This information was sent from the Biological Register which has thousands > of entries, and you simply need to type in a surname. > My Henry FOSTER MLA was there with references that are new to me, so I > will > have to find the books. > Been a bit slack in the research for the last couple of weeks as my son's > Lacrosse team won its first State League Grand Final here in Melbourne and > I > am publicity officer for the club. It was a wonderful historic win and > some > of them are still celebrating, however it did take time away from this > site > where I am discovering new things every day. > Access ends at the end of the month. > Bye for now, > Mary > > > >> THanks Mary, I was wondering how on earth GALE would find me. >> >> Denise >> >> > Dear Denise, >> > Have just sent you an email of the page on this site that refers to >> > your >> > Hiram. >> > Mary of Melbourne' >> > >> >> >> >

Hi Peter No, I'm afraid the Wards were very firmly from Tasmania - SHAKESPEARES lived (and died) at Buckland. Many thanks for the info re Rory - I'll give him a call. Regards Malcolm > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Ross [mailto:rossof@ozemail.com.au] > Sent: Tuesday, 14 September 2004 6:27 PM > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HC] Buckland area > > Hi Malcolm, > > Perhaps you are related to the late Leah Ward of Porepunkah? Old friend of > my father's. > > Might I suggest a call / letter to my cousin Rory Lumsden of the Buckland, > phone 0357 562261. Getting on a bit, but an authority on the Buckland's > history. You'd have passed his place on the LHS on your way up the valley, > just past "Falls View". > > If stuck, contact me off list. > > Peter Ross > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Malcolm Ward" <greatbedwyn@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 3:26 PM > Subject: [HC] Buckland area > > > > Hi > > > > I unexpectedly was able to pay a visit to the Buckland area, near Bright > (where some > > ancestors were briefly in the gold rush) and am hoping listers can help > me with some > > geography. I went up the valley past the cemetery, through "Twelve Mile" > as far as the > > Junction. > > > > * Was the town of Buckland where the cemetery is today? > > * In relation to the cemetery, where would "Lower Flat, Buckland" have > been (ie down by > > the creek or downstream or....)? > > * I have a reference to a burial at "Joss House Hill" - can anyone > describe where this > > is/was in relation to the cemetery or other features in the valley? > > > > Regards > > > > Malcolm > >

Hi Malcolm, Perhaps you are related to the late Leah Ward of Porepunkah? Old friend of my father's. Might I suggest a call / letter to my cousin Rory Lumsden of the Buckland, phone 0357 562261. Getting on a bit, but an authority on the Buckland's history. You'd have passed his place on the LHS on your way up the valley, just past "Falls View". If stuck, contact me off list. Peter Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Malcolm Ward" <greatbedwyn@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 3:26 PM Subject: [HC] Buckland area > Hi > > I unexpectedly was able to pay a visit to the Buckland area, near Bright (where some > ancestors were briefly in the gold rush) and am hoping listers can help me with some > geography. I went up the valley past the cemetery, through "Twelve Mile" as far as the > Junction. > > * Was the town of Buckland where the cemetery is today? > * In relation to the cemetery, where would "Lower Flat, Buckland" have been (ie down by > the creek or downstream or....)? > * I have a reference to a burial at "Joss House Hill" - can anyone describe where this > is/was in relation to the cemetery or other features in the valley? > > Regards > > Malcolm >