a lot of this is incorrect My GGrandfather Michael Culhane born abt. 1830 arrived in the colony after his brother John and two sisters Bridget and Mary, sometime between 1855-59 from Glin Co Limerick. Then went mining up the Crooked 1861, He was first minig with James Enright etc.. Then a Catherine Kirk married Hugh Maguire at Dargo Flats in 1868, and there has been a story passed down that Catherine Kirk, then sent to Ireland for her sister Mary who was born in Co Kilkenny in 1848. Her parents being Thomas Kirk and Catherine Darmody. Mary Kirk age 21, then sailed from Plymouth on March 27th 1869 on board the sailing ship Gresham and arrived in Melbourne on the 24th June 1869. On arrival Mary went to join her sister Catherine Maguire (nee Kirk) at Black Snake Creek, Wongungarra, until she married Michael on 30 December 1869 at a small settlement Castleburn Creek, a tributary of the Wongungarra river, Gippsland. The priest being Father Patrick Moran, their witnesses were Andrew Dalton and Mary Arnold. At the time of their marriage Michael was registered as being a miner living at Grant and he states his age as 34 (more like 38 or 39 years old.) There was nobody there before the O'Keefe's, Michael got this land through his miners license, O'Keefes were one of hundreds of other miners that went to the crooked, he first took up a residential site under his miner license around 1866, then he made Application for a License to Occupy Land under the 49th Sec of "The Land Act 1869 (this can be verified with documentation) Sir Will you be kind enough to advise me in what manner I can take up a river flat, containing about 20 acres, on the Wongungarra River, about a mile below and on the same side of the surveyed township of Howittville. And whether I can in anyway legally occupy it. I have my residence, under my miners right:- now on the said flat. One portion about 5 acres has been fenced in by another party for cultivation, but I am not aware of his having any legal hold on the ground as he resides and occupies other lands about a mile further up the river. I am Sir Your Obedient Servant, Michael Culhane. Michael quotes in one of his letters that "this area is known locally as the Pioneer". The first house he and Mary built was three roomed, made from log and slab 30x15 at the cost of 30 pounds. (The one that is pictured on front of the Gippsland Heritage Journal) This house (or hut) then became known as Costello's because his daughter Johanna Culhane had married James Costello and they lived in the old house when the following was built. In the 1890's another home was built on the same property, except this time using weatherboard and iron. Cultivation consisted mainly of hay, maize and potatoes. Their neighbors were firstly the Flannagans then Michael Higgins who had married Hannah Flannagan It was my grandfather Thomas Culhane born 1871 who worked with Constantine Holmes, not Michael (his father) I know Harry Smith had Eaglevale so I'm not sure if it was Harry he was managing stock for (can check this) or Constantine who was also one of the early miners with Michael Culhane. Michael had already built a long time before Tom was working the cattle, (so that part is completely wrong) When Michael died his son Maurice took over the old house, Paddy another son had land he bought of Hubbard that he then sold to Nellie Guy, his old house is still next door to Nellies old place. (or was when I last visited) And another son Edward had land down further form the original house Michael had ten children not 11. My Grandfather Thomas had eleven children, Also Maurice was Thomas brother not son, Maurice Joseph born May 04, 1886 Talbotville and went to Talbotville school, Maurice took over his fathers property (Michael Culhane)at Talbotville and was still living there in 1928 and working as a Stockman. He married Gretta McCormack from Myrtleford. They then moved to Rosedale, Gippsland where he died soon after their marriage in 1943 age 53 at Sale. Gretta moved back to Myrtleford and used to have a little house near the Catholic school and I remember her selling catechisms and rosary beads at the church nearly every day. We still had ties to the Bongong In the early 1900's while Tom was managing stock for Paddy Duane on the Bogong High plains he met his wife Amy Beryl Ellen at Duane's Happy Valley Hotel on the Ovens side of the mountains. After their marriage in 1918 they lived for awhile around the Buffalo River area, then Tom moved back to the Crooked River, Then in 1929 moved back to Myrtleford [Barwidgee]. His daughter recalls a story passed on by her mother, "We went over on horse back, I sat in the saddle in front of mum, she was 5 months pregnant and another brother sat behind her, while dad had another brother behind him plus pack horses." Tom died 1950 age 79 at Myrtleford Thomas's son Jack also like his father had a way with horses. He is recorded in the Cattleman's Diary [told to me by the late Jack Treasure] for his feat of riding by himself from Crooked River over to Myrtleford at the age of 11 years. While his younger son Kevin known as "Mick" Culhane kept up the family tradition and was still taking stock up to the Bogong until his death at Bright February 27, 2001. Cattlemen came from all over to honor him at his funeral. Dianne I am in the middle of writing a book on this area and other families who had been there since the 1860's. So it will then be recorded correctly. Will contact re Spaulls. Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dianne Carroll" <highcountryheritage@dodo.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Mining Hi Kerry, Would there be any Culhanes, Higgins or Camms?? Also this may be of interest... Culhanes Hut This hut is situated on the property owned by the Culhane family, prior to them it was said to have been owned by O'Keefe's Michael Culhane (1826 - 1905) married Mary Kirk (1852-1926) in 1868 when Mary was only 16. Michael came to the district working as a stockman for Constantine and Jimmy Holmes, who lived at Stratford and had the Eagle Vale Run from 1869. Michael, with the Holmes Bros drove cattle up through the Crooked River, Wonnangatta and Moroka to the Plains. The Holmes Bros had a hut near Shaws Creek, at the north-eastern portion of Holmes Plains (not far from the present Kelly Hut). It was in ruins in the 1920s. It was whist working in the area that Michael decided to select land and build a home for his young family on the Crooked River. At first it was a humble bark roofed one roomed structure, but as they went on to have eleven children, Michael extended the home. Michael continued stock work throughout the district. They also had a substantial garden and cattle. In the 1890s Thomas (1871-1950), their eldest son took on the property across the river, known as "The Island" - the land situated between the Crooked River and the Wongungurra River. He had 17 packhorses and carted the quartz from the Good Hope Mine to the battery which was situated at Myrtleford. On his return trip he would bring supplies back to Crooked River. In 1905, when Michael passed away most of the children had left Crooked River, some going to Stratford / Sale area, Johanna married went to Ensay and several went to Myrtleford. After his death, his widow Mary took in borders to enable her to make ends meet. The borders were most of the crew from the Crooked River Dredge and paid £-/12/- per week. There were three shifts working on the dredge, three men working each shift. Tom and (brother not son) son Maurice "Maurie" Culhane (1890-1943) who was 19 when his father died continued to live in the house with their mother. Tom tendered to "The Island" and continued his 'packing service' whilst Maurie took over running the original property. In c1920 Mary moved to Stratford and it believed she lived with son Patrick until her death in 1925. (Patrick never married) Thomas married Amy Ellen and after the birth of their first four children, moved to Myrtleford in 1925. They went on to have another seven children. Maurie continued farming the property until the early 1930s, when he moved to Sale. He married Greta McCormack in 1947, but sadly died 30 days after his marriage. By 1934 only relics the homestead remained. After the Maurie Culhane left, Albert Stout, store keeper of Talbotville worked the paddocks for some years. Culhanes was taken over by Alex "Sandy" Traill c1942, and owned Howittville. It was whilst Sandy Trail used it that this hut was erected by the Forestry Commission to enable the workers, building the road, to have a base camp. In c1967 there was a dispute with Sandy Traill and Graham Spauls as to who owned it. Graham Spaul had purchased the property and he also bought out Sandy Traill's Howittville property. In 1999 Graham sold both properties and the lease to a syndicate of ten including Andrew Keys and Johanna Allen. The Culhane family contributed immensely to the Crooked River region, yet the family has been forgotten with time. Michael was laid to rest at the Talbotville Cemetery and his headstone is the only link to say the Culhane's were even in the area. That was until the hut that stands today was built in c1960. Fortunately oral history has lived long enough to retain the name of the property owned by Culhane's, and because this hut was erected on the same sight as the original home, it has adopted the name of Culhane's Hut, and rightly so. Regards Dianne

Hi Kerry, Would there be any Culhanes, Higgins or Camms?? Also this may be of interest... Culhanes Hut This hut is situated on the property owned by the Culhane family, prior to them it was said to have been owned by O'Keefe's Michael Culhane (1826 - 1905) married Mary Kirk (1852-1926) in 1868 when Mary was only 16. Michael came to the district working as a stockman for Constantine and Jimmy Holmes, who lived at Stratford and had the Eagle Vale Run from 1869. Michael, with the Holmes Bros drove cattle up through the Crooked River, Wonnangatta and Moroka to the Plains. The Holmes Bros had a hut near Shaws Creek, at the north-eastern portion of Holmes Plains (not far from the present Kelly Hut). It was in ruins in the 1920s. It was whist working in the area that Michael decided to select land and build a home for his young family on the Crooked River. At first it was a humble bark roofed one roomed structure, but as they went on to have eleven children, Michael extended the home. Michael continued stock work throughout the district. They also had a substantial garden and cattle. In the 1890s Thomas (1871-1950), their eldest son took on the property across the river, known as "The Island" - the land situated between the Crooked River and the Wongungurra River. He had 17 packhorses and carted the quartz from the Good Hope Mine to the battery which was situated at Myrtleford. On his return trip he would bring supplies back to Crooked River. In 1905, when Michael passed away most of the children had left Crooked River, some going to Stratford / Sale area, Johanna married went to Ensay and several went to Myrtleford. After his death, his widow Mary took in borders to enable her to make ends meet. The borders were most of the crew from the Crooked River Dredge and paid £-/12/- per week. There were three shifts working on the dredge, three men working each shift. Tom and the youngest son Maurice "Maurie" Culhane (1890-1943) who was 19 when his father died continued to live in the house with their mother. Tom tendered to "The Island" and continued his 'packing service' whilst Maurie took over running the original property. In c1920 Mary moved to Stratford and it believed she lived with son Patrick until her death in 1925. (Patrick never married) Thomas married Amy Ellen and after the birth of their first four children, moved to Myrtleford in 1925. They went on to have another seven children. Maurie continued farming the property until the early 1930s, when he moved to Sale. He married Greta McCormack in 1947, but sadly died 30 days after his marriage. By 1934 only relics the homestead remained. After the Maurie Culhane left, Albert Stout, store keeper of Talbotville worked the paddocks for some years. Culhanes was taken over by Alex "Sandy" Traill c1942, and owned Howittville. It was whilst Sandy Trail used it that this hut was erected by the Forestry Commission to enable the workers, building the road, to have a base camp. In c1967 there was a dispute with Sandy Traill and Graham Spauls as to who owned it. Graham Spaul had purchased the property and he also bought out Sandy Traill's Howittville property. In 1999 Graham sold both properties and the lease to a syndicate of ten including Andrew Keys and Johanna Allen. The Culhane family contributed immensely to the Crooked River region, yet the family has been forgotten with time. Michael was laid to rest at the Talbotville Cemetery and his headstone is the only link to say the Culhane's were even in the area. That was until the hut that stands today was built in c1960. Fortunately oral history has lived long enough to retain the name of the property owned by Culhane's, and because this hut was erected on the same sight as the original home, it has adopted the name of Culhane's Hut, and rightly so. Regards Dianne

Hi Chris, Information I have recieved from descendants of Alexander McInnes, was that he was a butcher at Crooked River, prior to his marriage. Cheers Ray. ----- Original Message ----- From: Christine <wildmob@dodo.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Mining > Hi Kerry > > If I may ask, - amongst your collection of the miners, do you have an > Alexander McInnes listed at Crooked River around 1867? > > Thanks > Chris > > On Saturday, October 2, 2004, at 06:25 PM, Kerry wrote: > > > Hi Denise and list > > > > Sorry Denise don't know about this co but, > > I have a collection of all the miners that were on the Crooked River/ > > Dargo > > area, from 1866 0nwards, but I know that there were miners there before > > Howitt went in to access the area in 1860, I have just read where this > > was > > not a mining district until after 1866, hence why the registrations > > may only > > show this date upwards, before this the article says states that they > > were > > under the Beechworth mining Board. So does any know if Crooked river > > was > > under Beechworth if so where I can find these registration of claims. > > (I > > can't of course go to the PRO being in Queensland) > > > > Kerry > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> > > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:08 PM > > Subject: Re: [HC] Mining > > > > > > Hi again > > > > Did the Beechworth Prospecting Company come to anything? > > Interested to hear from anyone who knows even a little. > > regards > > Denise > > > > > > > >

No sorry Chris not listed for this area I have them all from 1866 onwards Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine" <wildmob@dodo.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Mining Hi Kerry If I may ask, - amongst your collection of the miners, do you have an Alexander McInnes listed at Crooked River around 1867? Thanks Chris On Saturday, October 2, 2004, at 06:25 PM, Kerry wrote: > Hi Denise and list > > Sorry Denise don't know about this co but, > I have a collection of all the miners that were on the Crooked River/ > Dargo > area, from 1866 0nwards, but I know that there were miners there before > Howitt went in to access the area in 1860, I have just read where this > was > not a mining district until after 1866, hence why the registrations > may only > show this date upwards, before this the article says states that they > were > under the Beechworth mining Board. So does any know if Crooked river > was > under Beechworth if so where I can find these registration of claims. > (I > can't of course go to the PRO being in Queensland) > > Kerry > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:08 PM > Subject: Re: [HC] Mining > > > Hi again > > Did the Beechworth Prospecting Company come to anything? > Interested to hear from anyone who knows even a little. > regards > Denise > > >

Hi Kerry If I may ask, - amongst your collection of the miners, do you have an Alexander McInnes listed at Crooked River around 1867? Thanks Chris On Saturday, October 2, 2004, at 06:25 PM, Kerry wrote: > Hi Denise and list > > Sorry Denise don't know about this co but, > I have a collection of all the miners that were on the Crooked River/ > Dargo > area, from 1866 0nwards, but I know that there were miners there before > Howitt went in to access the area in 1860, I have just read where this > was > not a mining district until after 1866, hence why the registrations > may only > show this date upwards, before this the article says states that they > were > under the Beechworth mining Board. So does any know if Crooked river > was > under Beechworth if so where I can find these registration of claims. > (I > can't of course go to the PRO being in Queensland) > > Kerry > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:08 PM > Subject: Re: [HC] Mining > > > Hi again > > Did the Beechworth Prospecting Company come to anything? > Interested to hear from anyone who knows even a little. > regards > Denise > > >

Hi Sharyn, I notice that last two Black children on your list were born at Hillsborough. You don't happen to have their birth certs or any other Hillsborough info by any chance? Ronda ----- Original Message ----- From: " Sharyn Ward" <followthattree@iprimus.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Blacks > Hi Robert > > Just to give you something else to do in your spare time, I thought I would share my Blacks with you. > > George Black married Ellen Lyons 1851 Bathhurst > Children > Margaret b.1851 married Heinrich Hobbel > John b.1856 Three Mile Creek > George b.1859 Yack' > Ellen b.11/5/1860 Yack' married William Allen > Edward b.1862 Yack' > Hugh Charles b.1864 Yack' married Mary Madeline McLean > Mary Jane b.1870 Hillsborough married Alfred Ernest Delton > Alfred b.1873 Hillsborough > > Let me know if any of these ring a bell > > Bye for now > Sharyn >

Also one on Beechworth 1855 with old cemetery marked. Denise > http://www.nla.gov.au/map/index.html > > Some great old maps on this link can be enlarged to read. > Denise >

http://www.nla.gov.au/map/index.html Some great old maps on this link can be enlarged to read. Denise

http://finnvalley.ie/names/ Once you get past the slamming and 'fullmoon men' you will find the meanings, but it's interesting reading on the way. For the Conway people on this list, our name is there. So is Connolly McNulty etc. Denise

http://userdb.rootsweb.com/aus/ Did everyone know this existed? For Aust. scroll down Denise

Hi everyone from the State of perfect one day, beautiful the next. Today is perfect. Hoping those with Parish Maps of the above areas would look for a few different block #s for me please. My Time frame is 1886. Block 23aCarboor Block 25 Carboor Block 153 Whorouly and Block 38 Everton. I think I have maps which surround these areas. Denise

That is great thanks Kerry. Hoping to eliminate a lot of walking for some of the more senior of the family. Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry" <kerryb@austarnet.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [HC] Maps > Had a look at all my maps Denise could only find the Ovens on them. > > Maybe Judy can help as her father lives at Milewa next door to there. I > will > also ask my mum when I talk to her today as she knows that area well > > Kerry > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 10:19 PM > Subject: [HC] Maps > > > Hi all > > Hoping someone has a map of the Everton district from the 1880-1900 times > which shows creeks off the Ovens River. I am interested in the area east > of > the township of Everton, as it is now. > > I have some wonderful photos of the property Brookfield and it's buildings > at Everton. Behind the sheds and kilns I notice what appears to be water, > ie creek as it is long, and upon clipping and enlarging I see the gums on > the bank and reeds growing. However the parish map does not show any > creeks. it is not the Ovens River, as that is visible in another photo > just behind the photographer who was up the windmill taking shots in all > directions. > > The reason I ask is that next March at the exhibition in B/worth the > Crawford family have been given approval to go onto Brookfield and wander > around. I am trying to place these buildings in relation to roads creeks > and the river. This will be an attempt to find the remnants if any of the > buildings, which sadly do not stand today - main house and surrounding > buildings, the windmill and all the worker's houses and the kilns the > drying > sheds and store and stables and other things that were on the property. > > D > >

I would really appreciate a copy if possible thanks Bev, as I need sveral names. Thanks heaps Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bev Walker" <bbwalker@vic.chariot.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 10:24 PM Subject: RE: [HC] Re Shipping Lists. Kerry, it seems to be leases with names and places mentioned. What are you looking for. I can have a look now as I have it on screen. I have it as an attachment, somewhat lengthy. I could try to send it if you want. Will need an approx date if you want me to look. Bev -----Original Message----- From: Kerry [mailto:kerryb@austarnet.com.au] Sent: Saturday, 2 October 2004 9:54 PM To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HC] Re Shipping Lists. Thanks Bev, thats great gives me the Public Records no of the series. Is it mainly minutes or is it registration of claims and sluices with peoples names. Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bev Walker" <bbwalker@vic.chariot.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 9:38 PM Subject: RE: [HC] Re Shipping Lists. Denise, Beats swimming!!!!!!!!!! I have a "mining leases Gippsland" Selected extracts: PRO series 7842/P1. A very long document, 48 pages and has mentions of Crooked River in it. If it helps, someone was good enough to send it to me some time ago.1865 seems to be the earliest date. Bev -----Original Message----- From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] Sent: Saturday, 2 October 2004 9:03 PM To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HC] Re Shipping Lists. He went on a Canoe???? no worries Bev. D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bev Walker" <bbwalker@vic.chariot.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 9:04 PM Subject: RE: [HC] Re Shipping Lists. > Hi Denise, > Thanks indeed. 1898 Grant Sloan Australia P Canoe 632. > No sign of his brother Jim. > Grant said in his address to the people of Benambra on his > return from the Klondike, that he had travelled on the Aust. > ship the Cape Otway from Melbourne in 1898. He also mentioned > that it was little better than a cattle ship. > > Now how do I find about about shipping to South Africa? > > Thankyou again Denise,you are a treasure. > Bev > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] > Sent: Saturday, 2 October 2004 8:35 PM > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HC] Re Shipping Lists. > > > don't know where it was hiding but searched and found it > http://yukonalaska.com/pathfinder/gen/AustraliaDb.html > > hope you guy is there > Denise > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bev Walker" <bbwalker@vic.chariot.net.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 4:30 PM > Subject: [HC] Re Shipping Lists. > > >> Hi List, >> Would anyone have any idea where I could find shipping lists >> for 1902 travelling to South Africa. >> >> Also 1898 travelling to the Klondike, Alaska. >> >> I presume they left from Victoria but not real sure. >> >> Thanks very much. >> Bev >> >> --- >> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >> Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 1/10/2004 >> >> > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 1/10/2004 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 1/10/2004 > > --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 1/10/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 1/10/2004 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 1/10/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 1/10/2004

Had a look at all my maps Denise could only find the Ovens on them. Maybe Judy can help as her father lives at Milewa next door to there. I will also ask my mum when I talk to her today as she knows that area well Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 10:19 PM Subject: [HC] Maps Hi all Hoping someone has a map of the Everton district from the 1880-1900 times which shows creeks off the Ovens River. I am interested in the area east of the township of Everton, as it is now. I have some wonderful photos of the property Brookfield and it's buildings at Everton. Behind the sheds and kilns I notice what appears to be water, ie creek as it is long, and upon clipping and enlarging I see the gums on the bank and reeds growing. However the parish map does not show any creeks. it is not the Ovens River, as that is visible in another photo just behind the photographer who was up the windmill taking shots in all directions. The reason I ask is that next March at the exhibition in B/worth the Crawford family have been given approval to go onto Brookfield and wander around. I am trying to place these buildings in relation to roads creeks and the river. This will be an attempt to find the remnants if any of the buildings, which sadly do not stand today - main house and surrounding buildings, the windmill and all the worker's houses and the kilns the drying sheds and store and stables and other things that were on the property. D

Kerry, it seems to be leases with names and places mentioned. What are you looking for. I can have a look now as I have it on screen. I have it as an attachment, somewhat lengthy. I could try to send it if you want. Will need an approx date if you want me to look. Bev -----Original Message----- From: Kerry [mailto:kerryb@austarnet.com.au] Sent: Saturday, 2 October 2004 9:54 PM To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HC] Re Shipping Lists. Thanks Bev, thats great gives me the Public Records no of the series. Is it mainly minutes or is it registration of claims and sluices with peoples names. Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bev Walker" <bbwalker@vic.chariot.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 9:38 PM Subject: RE: [HC] Re Shipping Lists. Denise, Beats swimming!!!!!!!!!! I have a "mining leases Gippsland" Selected extracts: PRO series 7842/P1. A very long document, 48 pages and has mentions of Crooked River in it. If it helps, someone was good enough to send it to me some time ago.1865 seems to be the earliest date. Bev -----Original Message----- From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] Sent: Saturday, 2 October 2004 9:03 PM To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HC] Re Shipping Lists. He went on a Canoe???? no worries Bev. D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bev Walker" <bbwalker@vic.chariot.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 9:04 PM Subject: RE: [HC] Re Shipping Lists. > Hi Denise, > Thanks indeed. 1898 Grant Sloan Australia P Canoe 632. > No sign of his brother Jim. > Grant said in his address to the people of Benambra on his > return from the Klondike, that he had travelled on the Aust. > ship the Cape Otway from Melbourne in 1898. He also mentioned > that it was little better than a cattle ship. > > Now how do I find about about shipping to South Africa? > > Thankyou again Denise,you are a treasure. > Bev > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] > Sent: Saturday, 2 October 2004 8:35 PM > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HC] Re Shipping Lists. > > > don't know where it was hiding but searched and found it > http://yukonalaska.com/pathfinder/gen/AustraliaDb.html > > hope you guy is there > Denise > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bev Walker" <bbwalker@vic.chariot.net.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 4:30 PM > Subject: [HC] Re Shipping Lists. > > >> Hi List, >> Would anyone have any idea where I could find shipping lists >> for 1902 travelling to South Africa. >> >> Also 1898 travelling to the Klondike, Alaska. >> >> I presume they left from Victoria but not real sure. >> >> Thanks very much. >> Bev >> >> --- >> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >> Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 1/10/2004 >> >> > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 1/10/2004 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 1/10/2004 > > --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 1/10/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 1/10/2004 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 1/10/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 1/10/2004

Hi all Hoping someone has a map of the Everton district from the 1880-1900 times which shows creeks off the Ovens River. I am interested in the area east of the township of Everton, as it is now. I have some wonderful photos of the property Brookfield and it's buildings at Everton. Behind the sheds and kilns I notice what appears to be water, ie creek as it is long, and upon clipping and enlarging I see the gums on the bank and reeds growing. However the parish map does not show any creeks. it is not the Ovens River, as that is visible in another photo just behind the photographer who was up the windmill taking shots in all directions. The reason I ask is that next March at the exhibition in B/worth the Crawford family have been given approval to go onto Brookfield and wander around. I am trying to place these buildings in relation to roads creeks and the river. This will be an attempt to find the remnants if any of the buildings, which sadly do not stand today - main house and surrounding buildings, the windmill and all the worker's houses and the kilns the drying sheds and store and stables and other things that were on the property. D

Thanks Bev, thats great gives me the Public Records no of the series. Is it mainly minutes or is it registration of claims and sluices with peoples names. Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bev Walker" <bbwalker@vic.chariot.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 9:38 PM Subject: RE: [HC] Re Shipping Lists. Denise, Beats swimming!!!!!!!!!! I have a "mining leases Gippsland" Selected extracts: PRO series 7842/P1. A very long document, 48 pages and has mentions of Crooked River in it. If it helps, someone was good enough to send it to me some time ago.1865 seems to be the earliest date. Bev -----Original Message----- From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] Sent: Saturday, 2 October 2004 9:03 PM To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HC] Re Shipping Lists. He went on a Canoe???? no worries Bev. D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bev Walker" <bbwalker@vic.chariot.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 9:04 PM Subject: RE: [HC] Re Shipping Lists. > Hi Denise, > Thanks indeed. 1898 Grant Sloan Australia P Canoe 632. > No sign of his brother Jim. > Grant said in his address to the people of Benambra on his > return from the Klondike, that he had travelled on the Aust. > ship the Cape Otway from Melbourne in 1898. He also mentioned > that it was little better than a cattle ship. > > Now how do I find about about shipping to South Africa? > > Thankyou again Denise,you are a treasure. > Bev > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] > Sent: Saturday, 2 October 2004 8:35 PM > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HC] Re Shipping Lists. > > > don't know where it was hiding but searched and found it > http://yukonalaska.com/pathfinder/gen/AustraliaDb.html > > hope you guy is there > Denise > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bev Walker" <bbwalker@vic.chariot.net.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 4:30 PM > Subject: [HC] Re Shipping Lists. > > >> Hi List, >> Would anyone have any idea where I could find shipping lists >> for 1902 travelling to South Africa. >> >> Also 1898 travelling to the Klondike, Alaska. >> >> I presume they left from Victoria but not real sure. >> >> Thanks very much. >> Bev >> >> --- >> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >> Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 1/10/2004 >> >> > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 1/10/2004 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 1/10/2004 > > --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 1/10/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 1/10/2004

Denise, Beats swimming!!!!!!!!!! I have a "mining leases Gippsland" Selected extracts: PRO series 7842/P1. A very long document, 48 pages and has mentions of Crooked River in it. If it helps, someone was good enough to send it to me some time ago.1865 seems to be the earliest date. Bev -----Original Message----- From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] Sent: Saturday, 2 October 2004 9:03 PM To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HC] Re Shipping Lists. He went on a Canoe???? no worries Bev. D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bev Walker" <bbwalker@vic.chariot.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 9:04 PM Subject: RE: [HC] Re Shipping Lists. > Hi Denise, > Thanks indeed. 1898 Grant Sloan Australia P Canoe 632. > No sign of his brother Jim. > Grant said in his address to the people of Benambra on his > return from the Klondike, that he had travelled on the Aust. > ship the Cape Otway from Melbourne in 1898. He also mentioned > that it was little better than a cattle ship. > > Now how do I find about about shipping to South Africa? > > Thankyou again Denise,you are a treasure. > Bev > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] > Sent: Saturday, 2 October 2004 8:35 PM > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HC] Re Shipping Lists. > > > don't know where it was hiding but searched and found it > http://yukonalaska.com/pathfinder/gen/AustraliaDb.html > > hope you guy is there > Denise > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bev Walker" <bbwalker@vic.chariot.net.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 4:30 PM > Subject: [HC] Re Shipping Lists. > > >> Hi List, >> Would anyone have any idea where I could find shipping lists >> for 1902 travelling to South Africa. >> >> Also 1898 travelling to the Klondike, Alaska. >> >> I presume they left from Victoria but not real sure. >> >> Thanks very much. >> Bev >> >> --- >> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >> Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 1/10/2004 >> >> > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 1/10/2004 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 1/10/2004 > > --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 1/10/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 1/10/2004

Hi Denise, Thanks indeed. 1898 Grant Sloan Australia P Canoe 632. No sign of his brother Jim. Grant said in his address to the people of Benambra on his return from the Klondike, that he had travelled on the Aust. ship the Cape Otway from Melbourne in 1898. He also mentioned that it was little better than a cattle ship. Now how do I find about about shipping to South Africa? Thankyou again Denise,you are a treasure. Bev -----Original Message----- From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] Sent: Saturday, 2 October 2004 8:35 PM To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HC] Re Shipping Lists. don't know where it was hiding but searched and found it http://yukonalaska.com/pathfinder/gen/AustraliaDb.html hope you guy is there Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bev Walker" <bbwalker@vic.chariot.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 4:30 PM Subject: [HC] Re Shipping Lists. > Hi List, > Would anyone have any idea where I could find shipping lists > for 1902 travelling to South Africa. > > Also 1898 travelling to the Klondike, Alaska. > > I presume they left from Victoria but not real sure. > > Thanks very much. > Bev > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 1/10/2004 > > --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 1/10/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 1/10/2004

He went on a Canoe???? no worries Bev. D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bev Walker" <bbwalker@vic.chariot.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 9:04 PM Subject: RE: [HC] Re Shipping Lists. > Hi Denise, > Thanks indeed. 1898 Grant Sloan Australia P Canoe 632. > No sign of his brother Jim. > Grant said in his address to the people of Benambra on his > return from the Klondike, that he had travelled on the Aust. > ship the Cape Otway from Melbourne in 1898. He also mentioned > that it was little better than a cattle ship. > > Now how do I find about about shipping to South Africa? > > Thankyou again Denise,you are a treasure. > Bev > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] > Sent: Saturday, 2 October 2004 8:35 PM > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HC] Re Shipping Lists. > > > don't know where it was hiding but searched and found it > http://yukonalaska.com/pathfinder/gen/AustraliaDb.html > > hope you guy is there > Denise > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bev Walker" <bbwalker@vic.chariot.net.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 4:30 PM > Subject: [HC] Re Shipping Lists. > > >> Hi List, >> Would anyone have any idea where I could find shipping lists >> for 1902 travelling to South Africa. >> >> Also 1898 travelling to the Klondike, Alaska. >> >> I presume they left from Victoria but not real sure. >> >> Thanks very much. >> Bev >> >> --- >> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >> Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 1/10/2004 >> >> > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 1/10/2004 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 1/10/2004 > >