Hello Zola, Nice to hear from you. Yes, positive Catherine died in Australia. Yes, every state in Australia has been searched, except Northern Territory, not only for Catherine , but for Henry and Richard as well. I have a "never give up" attitude, thus perseverence may prevail, one day. I understand that the High Country List is really good. Should have listed ages ago, but I work for a genealogy society here in NZ as a volunteer, which takes up a great amount of my time, and I also like to help others, doing look ups for BDM's etc, on other mailing lists I participate in. All time consuming but I enjoy the contact with others, finding it rewarding. Thanks for you response, Zola. Appreciated. Regards, Marina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zola Ortenburg" <zolaortenburg@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Josephus and Catherine Murphy-Beechworth Area > Hello Marina, > Welcome, are you sure she died. I had a look to see if she remarried in > Victoria, but couldn't see anything. Have you searched the New South > Wales records? It is very frustrating to get to a point - where people > just disappear, I can assure you you are not alone. Someone on this > wonderful list may be able to assist you. Good luck and regards, Zola > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marina & Bruce Borland" <matilda@snap.net.nz> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 7:48 AM > Subject: [HC] Josephus and Catherine Murphy-Beechworth Area > > >> Hello to Listers from New Zealand, >> >> New to your list and are seeking assistance please. >> >> My greatgrandfather was JOSEPHUS MURPHY, from Belfast, Northern Ireland. >> In June, 1853, he immigrated to Melbourne, together with it seems two >> brothers, HENRY and RICHARD MURPHY( of the latter two nothing to date has >> been found ). Josephus went to the goldfields of the Beechworth region, >> where he apparently held a gold claim. >> >> In July, 1857, at Oven, he married a CATHERINE ARNOLD, from Bristol, >> England. Catherine was aged 22 at this time. Her parents were Luke and >> Sarah Arnold. >> >> They seemed to have moved around the general Beechworth area, the first >> child, John Malcolm, was born at Woolshed in 1857; second child, Harriet, >> born Buckland in 1859( died in infancy); third child, Rupert, born at >> Morses Creek in 1861; and the fourth child, Josephus, in Oven in 1863 >> (died in fancy). I have all marriage and birth information for this >> family. >> >> Josephus came to New Zealand, exact date unknown. In March,1865, the two >> surviving children came to Otago, New Zealand, aboard the ship "Hero", >> seemingly unaccompanied by a parent. Catherine was not with them. >> It is thought that Catherine may have died around 1863-1865, in the >> Beechworth region. Nothing has been found of her death despite numerous >> searches being made. both in Australia and New Zealand. Her death may >> never have been registered - a problem. - thus she may never be located. >> >> A CD for Beechworth has been searched without success. >> >> Records held at the Burke Museum in Beechworth are quite extensive. Does >> anyone on this list have access to this museum's, public records, who >> would be kind enough to do a look up for me? Of particular interest are >> mining claim register records, etc. I also know that the museum has >> microfiche for, "The Ovens & Murray Advertiser", 1855-1978, and "The >> Constitution & Ovens Mining Intelligence", microfiche covers 1856-57. >> Does anyone have access to these old newspapers? A CD for Beechworth has >> been searched without >> >> Any information, and/or assistance, with locating data on this family >> would be so greatly appreciated. Thank you. >> >> Regards, >> >> Marina in New Zealand >> >> >> >> >

EVANS - MURPHY - On the 22nd august 1877 at the Church of England Parsonage Wangaratta, by the Rev. Henry J. Poole, Mr. William Evans, eldest son of Mr. Robert Evans of Wahgunyah to Miss Jane Murphy eldest daughter of Mr. Henry Murphy of Springhurst. # Marina, which Cd for Beechworth are you speaking of? # I wonder if the Henry above is one of yours? # As for access to the Burke Museum, you may be lucky enough to find someone who will be visiting, but the mining register isn't that easy to go thru. You can access the Museum on their website and ask for research- there will be charge. # I have some of the old Ovens and Murray Advertisers during the 1850-1900 but without any dates or other information it too will be a huge field to wander thru. If you do have information, I would be happy to look thru the papers that I have. regards Denise

Dear Marina, There is just a chance that your missing Catherine Murphy is a death registration in 1963 which I have located on the both the Victorian Pioneer index and the Australian Vital Records. It states that she was aged 28 (this would be right if she was 22 in 1857) and that the parents were unknown (very likely if her husband was away that nobody would know). The registration is 1863/9104. Birthplace is shown as Gloucester - I realise that this is not a perfect match - but it is close. Bristol is very near to both the town and county of Gloucester. I suggest you obtain the death certificate - it should show the childrens' names at least and probably her husband as well as some other details if you are really lucky. You can do this via the Internet and actually print it 'on the spot'. It will cost you around A$17.50 (unless it has changed in the past few months). I think the web site is http://online.justice.vic.gov.au/ I think is a hard site to find your way around - you need to get into the section headed 'Transactions' and then into the 'Transactions List'. Kind regards and good luck, Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marina & Bruce Borland" <matilda@snap.net.nz> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Josephus and Catherine Murphy-Beechworth Area > Hello Zola, > > Nice to hear from you. Yes, positive Catherine died in Australia. Yes, every > state in Australia has been searched, except Northern Territory, not only > for Catherine , but for Henry and Richard as well. I have a "never give up" > attitude, thus perseverence may prevail, one day. > I understand that the High Country List is really good. Should have listed > ages ago, but I work for a genealogy society here in NZ as a volunteer, > which takes up a great amount of my time, and I also like to help others, > doing look ups for BDM's etc, on other mailing lists I participate in. All > time consuming but I enjoy the contact with others, finding it rewarding. > Thanks for you response, Zola. Appreciated. > > Regards, > > Marina > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zola Ortenburg" <zolaortenburg@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 3:52 PM > Subject: Re: [HC] Josephus and Catherine Murphy-Beechworth Area > > > > Hello Marina, > > Welcome, are you sure she died. I had a look to see if she remarried in > > Victoria, but couldn't see anything. Have you searched the New South > > Wales records? It is very frustrating to get to a point - where people > > just disappear, I can assure you you are not alone. Someone on this > > wonderful list may be able to assist you. Good luck and regards, Zola > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Marina & Bruce Borland" <matilda@snap.net.nz> > > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 7:48 AM > > Subject: [HC] Josephus and Catherine Murphy-Beechworth Area > > > > > >> Hello to Listers from New Zealand, > >> > >> New to your list and are seeking assistance please. > >> > >> My greatgrandfather was JOSEPHUS MURPHY, from Belfast, Northern Ireland. > >> In June, 1853, he immigrated to Melbourne, together with it seems two > >> brothers, HENRY and RICHARD MURPHY( of the latter two nothing to date has > >> been found ). Josephus went to the goldfields of the Beechworth region, > >> where he apparently held a gold claim. > >> > >> In July, 1857, at Oven, he married a CATHERINE ARNOLD, from Bristol, > >> England. Catherine was aged 22 at this time. Her parents were Luke and > >> Sarah Arnold. > >> > >> They seemed to have moved around the general Beechworth area, the first > >> child, John Malcolm, was born at Woolshed in 1857; second child, Harriet, > >> born Buckland in 1859( died in infancy); third child, Rupert, born at > >> Morses Creek in 1861; and the fourth child, Josephus, in Oven in 1863 > >> (died in fancy). I have all marriage and birth information for this > >> family. > >> > >> Josephus came to New Zealand, exact date unknown. In March,1865, the two > >> surviving children came to Otago, New Zealand, aboard the ship "Hero", > >> seemingly unaccompanied by a parent. Catherine was not with them. > >> It is thought that Catherine may have died around 1863-1865, in the > >> Beechworth region. Nothing has been found of her death despite numerous > >> searches being made. both in Australia and New Zealand. Her death may > >> never have been registered - a problem. - thus she may never be located. > >> > >> A CD for Beechworth has been searched without success. > >> > >> Records held at the Burke Museum in Beechworth are quite extensive. Does > >> anyone on this list have access to this museum's, public records, who > >> would be kind enough to do a look up for me? Of particular interest are > >> mining claim register records, etc. I also know that the museum has > >> microfiche for, "The Ovens & Murray Advertiser", 1855-1978, and "The > >> Constitution & Ovens Mining Intelligence", microfiche covers 1856-57. > >> Does anyone have access to these old newspapers? A CD for Beechworth has > >> been searched without > >> > >> Any information, and/or assistance, with locating data on this family > >> would be so greatly appreciated. Thank you. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Marina in New Zealand > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > >

Hello Marina, Welcome, are you sure she died. I had a look to see if she remarried in Victoria, but couldn't see anything. Have you searched the New South Wales records? It is very frustrating to get to a point - where people just disappear, I can assure you you are not alone. Someone on this wonderful list may be able to assist you. Good luck and regards, Zola ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marina & Bruce Borland" <matilda@snap.net.nz> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 7:48 AM Subject: [HC] Josephus and Catherine Murphy-Beechworth Area > Hello to Listers from New Zealand, > > New to your list and are seeking assistance please. > > My greatgrandfather was JOSEPHUS MURPHY, from Belfast, Northern Ireland. > In June, 1853, he immigrated to Melbourne, together with it seems two > brothers, HENRY and RICHARD MURPHY( of the latter two nothing to date has > been found ). Josephus went to the goldfields of the Beechworth region, > where he apparently held a gold claim. > > In July, 1857, at Oven, he married a CATHERINE ARNOLD, from Bristol, > England. Catherine was aged 22 at this time. Her parents were Luke and > Sarah Arnold. > > They seemed to have moved around the general Beechworth area, the first > child, John Malcolm, was born at Woolshed in 1857; second child, Harriet, > born Buckland in 1859( died in infancy); third child, Rupert, born at > Morses Creek in 1861; and the fourth child, Josephus, in Oven in 1863 > (died in fancy). I have all marriage and birth information for this > family. > > Josephus came to New Zealand, exact date unknown. In March,1865, the two > surviving children came to Otago, New Zealand, aboard the ship "Hero", > seemingly unaccompanied by a parent. Catherine was not with them. > It is thought that Catherine may have died around 1863-1865, in the > Beechworth region. Nothing has been found of her death despite numerous > searches being made. both in Australia and New Zealand. Her death may > never have been registered - a problem. - thus she may never be located. > > A CD for Beechworth has been searched without success. > > Records held at the Burke Museum in Beechworth are quite extensive. Does > anyone on this list have access to this museum's, public records, who > would be kind enough to do a look up for me? Of particular interest are > mining claim register records, etc. I also know that the museum has > microfiche for, "The Ovens & Murray Advertiser", 1855-1978, and "The > Constitution & Ovens Mining Intelligence", microfiche covers 1856-57. Does > anyone have access to these old newspapers? A CD for Beechworth has been > searched without > > Any information, and/or assistance, with locating data on this family > would be so greatly appreciated. Thank you. > > Regards, > > Marina in New Zealand > > > >

Hello to Listers from New Zealand, New to your list and are seeking assistance please. My greatgrandfather was JOSEPHUS MURPHY, from Belfast, Northern Ireland. In June, 1853, he immigrated to Melbourne, together with it seems two brothers, HENRY and RICHARD MURPHY( of the latter two nothing to date has been found ). Josephus went to the goldfields of the Beechworth region, where he apparently held a gold claim. In July, 1857, at Oven, he married a CATHERINE ARNOLD, from Bristol, England. Catherine was aged 22 at this time. Her parents were Luke and Sarah Arnold. They seemed to have moved around the general Beechworth area, the first child, John Malcolm, was born at Woolshed in 1857; second child, Harriet, born Buckland in 1859( died in infancy); third child, Rupert, born at Morses Creek in 1861; and the fourth child, Josephus, in Oven in 1863 (died in fancy). I have all marriage and birth information for this family. Josephus came to New Zealand, exact date unknown. In March,1865, the two surviving children came to Otago, New Zealand, aboard the ship "Hero", seemingly unaccompanied by a parent. Catherine was not with them. It is thought that Catherine may have died around 1863-1865, in the Beechworth region. Nothing has been found of her death despite numerous searches being made. both in Australia and New Zealand. Her death may never have been registered - a problem. - thus she may never be located. A CD for Beechworth has been searched without success. Records held at the Burke Museum in Beechworth are quite extensive. Does anyone on this list have access to this museum's, public records, who would be kind enough to do a look up for me? Of particular interest are mining claim register records, etc. I also know that the museum has microfiche for, "The Ovens & Murray Advertiser", 1855-1978, and "The Constitution & Ovens Mining Intelligence", microfiche covers 1856-57. Does anyone have access to these old newspapers? A CD for Beechworth has been searched without Any information, and/or assistance, with locating data on this family would be so greatly appreciated. Thank you. Regards, Marina in New Zealand

Thank you again Kerry - these meanings were very helpful and will come in handy. Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Bennett" <kben1679@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 10:43 PM Subject: [HC] RE. Place Name Meanings. > Here are the first 11 place names, will do more tomorrow. > Kerry in Cranbourne > > > Yackandandah: Aboriginal. Mother and Hill. > > Wodonga: Aboriginal; Edible Nut. The first settlers were Paul and > Charles > Huon, who took up the Wodonga Run, and C.H. Ebden in 1836. When the town > was > gazetted in 1852 it was called Belvoir, but changed to Wodonga in 1876. As > it was so much smaller than the neighbouring city of Albury across the > border it was nicknamed Struggletwon for awhile. > > Albury: The Aboriginal name was Bungambrewatha, and when the township was > surveyed in 1839 it was given this name.As it was unmanageable, it was > later > changed to Aldbury, probably after Aldbury in Hertfordshire.Later the "d" > was dropped and it became Albury. Aldbury means "Old fort". > > Culcain: The name was given by James Balfour, who was responsible for > arranging for the town to be laid out. He named it after the propety of > the > Balfour faimly in England. > > Wagga Wagga: Aboriginal. Many crows. the word being an imitation of thier > call. The name comes from the station first owned by Robert Holt Best. > > Cootamundra: Aboriginal. Turtles,Swamp,:ow-lying. One authority says > that > the original Aboriginal word was Gooramundra.In the form of Cootamondra, > it > was a stock station owned by John Hurley in the 1830's. Later it was known > as teh "Village of Cootamundry". > > Young: Named after Sir John Young( later Baron Lisgar),Governor of New > South Wales. in 1861 during his term of office. An earlier name was > Lambing > Flat. a small plain used as a lambing place. Aboriginal name. Burragong. A > sheep run first occupied by James White. > > Cowra: Aboriginal. Rocks. The first station there, owned by the Rev. Henry > Fulton, made the meaning doubly clear, being named after Cowra Rocks. > > Canowindra: Aboriginal. Home or Camping-place. > > Molong; Aboriginal. All rocks. Also the name of an estate in the > vicinity > > > Wellington: Named Wellington Valley by John Oxley in August 1817 on his > journey in search of the Macquarie River,doubtless after the first Duke of > Wellington. > > Dubbo: >

Have no connection with seller, but this may be of interest to someone - Apologies for cross -posting Pamela S Melbourne http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=27418&item=3760079229&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW This Mortgage release indenture,dated 9th. February,1874,Measures 47cmx33cm and is in exceptional condition. It is printed on vellum and contains a number of interesting signatures. It relates to William Telford of Beechworth and involves the sum of three hundred and sixty pounds. A huge sum of money in those days.

Thanks Pamela. I know a descendant of Telford's who contacted me recently. Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "pamela" <pakash@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 2:08 PM Subject: [HC] Mortage release iindenture > > > > > Have no connection with seller, but this may be of interest to someone - > Apologies for cross -posting > Pamela S > Melbourne > > http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=27418&item=3760079229&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW > This Mortgage release indenture,dated 9th. February,1874,Measures > 47cmx33cm and is in exceptional condition. It is printed on vellum and > contains a number of interesting signatures. It relates to William Telford > of Beechworth and involves the sum of three hundred and sixty pounds. A > huge sum of money in those days. >

Thanks John. certainly water features a lot in place names. Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "John & Lyn Read" <jlread@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [HC] RE.Place Names of Australia. > Denise wrote: > >> Kerry thanks. I sat up late last night making a list of towns and >> their history and all this helped, thank you very much >> Denise >> >>> >>> Moree: Nothing for this name. From Place names of New South Wales - >>> Their Origins and Meanings - A W Reed we have >> > Moree. Aboriginal. Long waterhole. > > Regrds, John Kurwongbah Queensland >

Denise wrote: > Kerry thanks. I sat up late last night making a list of towns and > their history and all this helped, thank you very much > Denise > >> >> Moree: Nothing for this name. From Place names of New South Wales - >> Their Origins and Meanings - A W Reed we have > Moree. Aboriginal. Long waterhole. Regrds, John Kurwongbah Queensland

Kerry thanks. I sat up late last night making a list of towns and their history and all this helped, thank you very much Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Bennett" <kben1679@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 8:13 AM Subject: [HC] RE.Place Names of Australia. > Dubbo: Aboriginal. Head covering or skull-cap.Probably from > Tubbo.Headgear > of this kind was made of several kinds of material such as netted > headbands > or possum fur. There is reason to believe that the particular kind > referred > to in this name was made from the skin of an eagle with the down adhering > to > it. The name was given to the stock station by R.V. Dulhunty in the early > 1830"s > > Gilgandra: Aboriginal. Long water hole. > > Coonabarabran: Aborigianl. Inquisitive person. In thre form of > Coolabaraban, > it was the name of the station owned by James Weston in 1848. The local > contraction is "The Bran". > > Narrabi: Aboriginal. Forks.Forked sticks, or possibly, Large creek. Other > forms of the name are Nurraburai,Nurraburi and Nurruby, the latter being > the > name of the station taken up by Patrick Quinn and Cyrus M. Doyle ib 1834. > > Moree: Nothing for this name. > > Gooniwindi: Aboriginal. Droppings of ducks or shags( a matted tangle,esp. > of > hair, wool etc. ). Place of wild ducks, or Water running over rocks. > > Toowoomba: Aboriginal. No final answer can be provided to questions on the > origin of the city located at what was once known as The Swamp, or The > Swamps. One theory is that in attempting to pronounce the name the > Aborigines called it Tchwampa, which became modified to Toowoomba. Another > is that it was Choowoom or Toowoomba,Place where melons grow, or Water sit > down -- referring to underground water. A.E Martin adds the interesting > information that the Archdeacon Gleeine preached at The Swamp in 1848. > Disliking the name of the young settlement he entered the place of the > birth > of babies as Toowoomba in tthe Parish Register. At a sports meeting held > on > New Years Day 1858, the word was displayed in white letters as a sheet of > red calico and erected at the winning post.Thomas Alford settled here in > 1852 and at that time named his house Toowoomba. The town was proclaimed a > city in 1904. > > > This is the last of them, hope that they are what you need. > > Kerry in Cranbourne. >

If nothing Peter, it is stirring stuff - list stirring (g) D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Ross" <rossof@ozemail.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [HC] RE. Place Name Meanings. > Well I just can't let this go! I must be mad to get into this, but here > goes. There must be a dozen versions of the origin of these places but I > only want to mention the ones I know something about... > > Yackandandah: No-one I know here has ever suggested the name means > "Mother > and Hill" and I can't imagine where it would have come from. It's > recorded > as meaning "one rock on another". But who can prove it? > > Albury: The name "Aldbury" was never actually used. The letter "d" was > struck out by the Clerk of the Executive Council on the original plan, > which > was gazetted on 13 April 1839 as "Albury, County un-named, on the east > bank > of the Murray at a place called by the natives 'Bungambrewatah'". So it's > not really known what, if anything, Albury was named after. Personally, I > wish they'd kept the name Bungambrawatha... the locals have no problem > saying it! It still exists in the name of the creek running through > Albury, > which is unfortunately now a concreted drain. > Peter R > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kerry Bennett" <kben1679@bigpond.net.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:43 PM > Subject: [HC] RE. Place Name Meanings. > > >> Here are the first 11 place names, will do more tomorrow. >> Kerry in Cranbourne >> >> >> Yackandandah: Aboriginal. Mother and Hill. >> >> Wodonga: Aboriginal; Edible Nut. The first settlers were Paul and > Charles >> Huon, who took up the Wodonga Run, and C.H. Ebden in 1836. When the town > was >> gazetted in 1852 it was called Belvoir, but changed to Wodonga in 1876. >> As >> it was so much smaller than the neighbouring city of Albury across the >> border it was nicknamed Struggletwon for awhile. >> >> Albury: The Aboriginal name was Bungambrewatha, and when the township was >> surveyed in 1839 it was given this name.As it was unmanageable, it was > later >> changed to Aldbury, probably after Aldbury in Hertfordshire.Later the "d" >> was dropped and it became Albury. Aldbury means "Old fort". >> >> Culcain: The name was given by James Balfour, who was responsible for >> arranging for the town to be laid out. He named it after the propety of > the >> Balfour faimly in England. >> >> Wagga Wagga: Aboriginal. Many crows. the word being an imitation of >> thier >> call. The name comes from the station first owned by Robert Holt Best. >> >> Cootamundra: Aboriginal. Turtles,Swamp,:ow-lying. One authority says > that >> the original Aboriginal word was Gooramundra.In the form of Cootamondra, > it >> was a stock station owned by John Hurley in the 1830's. Later it was >> known >> as teh "Village of Cootamundry". >> >> Young: Named after Sir John Young( later Baron Lisgar),Governor of New >> South Wales. in 1861 during his term of office. An earlier name was > Lambing >> Flat. a small plain used as a lambing place. Aboriginal name. Burragong. >> A >> sheep run first occupied by James White. >> >> Cowra: Aboriginal. Rocks. The first station there, owned by the Rev. >> Henry >> Fulton, made the meaning doubly clear, being named after Cowra Rocks. >> >> Canowindra: Aboriginal. Home or Camping-place. >> >> Molong; Aboriginal. All rocks. Also the name of an estate in the > vicinity >> >> >> Wellington: Named Wellington Valley by John Oxley in August 1817 on his >> journey in search of the Macquarie River,doubtless after the first Duke >> of >> Wellington. >> >> Dubbo: >> >

I appreciate your thoughts, Chris. I'm very glad you think it's OK, and it's typically kind of you to say so. I've already had the 2 celebratory glasses of red yesterday... please can I have 2 more? I'll let your comment about my golf "technique" pass through to the keeper. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine" <wildmob@dodo.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 6:56 PM Subject: [HC] Yackandandah CD > Knowing the trials and tribulations that the compiler of the Yack Cem > CD had to contend with over the past couple of years and with Pete’s > tireless effort to ensure the records were as humanly possible perfect, > I extend my congratulations to Pete for the wonderful outcome he has > achieved. > > Any family historian whom had ancestors connected to the Yackandandah > area will find this resource invaluable. > > Enjoy a glass or 2 of red Pete; you have earned it!! > > Chris > > P.S - Pete, now go perfect your golf technique (g)…….. >

Knowing the trials and tribulations that the compiler of the Yack Cem CD had to contend with over the past couple of years and with Pete’s tireless effort to ensure the records were as humanly possible perfect, I extend my congratulations to Pete for the wonderful outcome he has achieved. Any family historian whom had ancestors connected to the Yackandandah area will find this resource invaluable. Enjoy a glass or 2 of red Pete; you have earned it!! Chris P.S - Pete, now go perfect your golf technique (g)……..

Well I just can't let this go! I must be mad to get into this, but here goes. There must be a dozen versions of the origin of these places but I only want to mention the ones I know something about... Yackandandah: No-one I know here has ever suggested the name means "Mother and Hill" and I can't imagine where it would have come from. It's recorded as meaning "one rock on another". But who can prove it? Albury: The name "Aldbury" was never actually used. The letter "d" was struck out by the Clerk of the Executive Council on the original plan, which was gazetted on 13 April 1839 as "Albury, County un-named, on the east bank of the Murray at a place called by the natives 'Bungambrewatah'". So it's not really known what, if anything, Albury was named after. Personally, I wish they'd kept the name Bungambrawatha... the locals have no problem saying it! It still exists in the name of the creek running through Albury, which is unfortunately now a concreted drain. Peter R ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Bennett" <kben1679@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:43 PM Subject: [HC] RE. Place Name Meanings. > Here are the first 11 place names, will do more tomorrow. > Kerry in Cranbourne > > > Yackandandah: Aboriginal. Mother and Hill. > > Wodonga: Aboriginal; Edible Nut. The first settlers were Paul and Charles > Huon, who took up the Wodonga Run, and C.H. Ebden in 1836. When the town was > gazetted in 1852 it was called Belvoir, but changed to Wodonga in 1876. As > it was so much smaller than the neighbouring city of Albury across the > border it was nicknamed Struggletwon for awhile. > > Albury: The Aboriginal name was Bungambrewatha, and when the township was > surveyed in 1839 it was given this name.As it was unmanageable, it was later > changed to Aldbury, probably after Aldbury in Hertfordshire.Later the "d" > was dropped and it became Albury. Aldbury means "Old fort". > > Culcain: The name was given by James Balfour, who was responsible for > arranging for the town to be laid out. He named it after the propety of the > Balfour faimly in England. > > Wagga Wagga: Aboriginal. Many crows. the word being an imitation of thier > call. The name comes from the station first owned by Robert Holt Best. > > Cootamundra: Aboriginal. Turtles,Swamp,:ow-lying. One authority says that > the original Aboriginal word was Gooramundra.In the form of Cootamondra, it > was a stock station owned by John Hurley in the 1830's. Later it was known > as teh "Village of Cootamundry". > > Young: Named after Sir John Young( later Baron Lisgar),Governor of New > South Wales. in 1861 during his term of office. An earlier name was Lambing > Flat. a small plain used as a lambing place. Aboriginal name. Burragong. A > sheep run first occupied by James White. > > Cowra: Aboriginal. Rocks. The first station there, owned by the Rev. Henry > Fulton, made the meaning doubly clear, being named after Cowra Rocks. > > Canowindra: Aboriginal. Home or Camping-place. > > Molong; Aboriginal. All rocks. Also the name of an estate in the vicinity > > > Wellington: Named Wellington Valley by John Oxley in August 1817 on his > journey in search of the Macquarie River,doubtless after the first Duke of > Wellington. > > Dubbo: >

Dubbo: Aboriginal. Head covering or skull-cap.Probably from Tubbo.Headgear of this kind was made of several kinds of material such as netted headbands or possum fur. There is reason to believe that the particular kind referred to in this name was made from the skin of an eagle with the down adhering to it. The name was given to the stock station by R.V. Dulhunty in the early 1830"s Gilgandra: Aboriginal. Long water hole. Coonabarabran: Aborigianl. Inquisitive person. In thre form of Coolabaraban, it was the name of the station owned by James Weston in 1848. The local contraction is "The Bran". Narrabi: Aboriginal. Forks.Forked sticks, or possibly, Large creek. Other forms of the name are Nurraburai,Nurraburi and Nurruby, the latter being the name of the station taken up by Patrick Quinn and Cyrus M. Doyle ib 1834. Moree: Nothing for this name. Gooniwindi: Aboriginal. Droppings of ducks or shags( a matted tangle,esp. of hair, wool etc. ). Place of wild ducks, or Water running over rocks. Toowoomba: Aboriginal. No final answer can be provided to questions on the origin of the city located at what was once known as The Swamp, or The Swamps. One theory is that in attempting to pronounce the name the Aborigines called it Tchwampa, which became modified to Toowoomba. Another is that it was Choowoom or Toowoomba,Place where melons grow, or Water sit down -- referring to underground water. A.E Martin adds the interesting information that the Archdeacon Gleeine preached at The Swamp in 1848. Disliking the name of the young settlement he entered the place of the birth of babies as Toowoomba in tthe Parish Register. At a sports meeting held on New Years Day 1858, the word was displayed in white letters as a sheet of red calico and erected at the winning post.Thomas Alford settled here in 1852 and at that time named his house Toowoomba. The town was proclaimed a city in 1904. This is the last of them, hope that they are what you need. Kerry in Cranbourne.

Hi Kerry, Could I please impose upon you to look up Tarrawingee? Thanks, Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Bennett" <kben1679@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:43 PM Subject: [HC] RE. Place Name Meanings. > Here are the first 11 place names, will do more tomorrow. > Kerry in Cranbourne > > > Yackandandah: Aboriginal. Mother and Hill. > > Wodonga: Aboriginal; Edible Nut. The first settlers were Paul and Charles > Huon, who took up the Wodonga Run, and C.H. Ebden in 1836. When the town was > gazetted in 1852 it was called Belvoir, but changed to Wodonga in 1876. As > it was so much smaller than the neighbouring city of Albury across the > border it was nicknamed Struggletwon for awhile. > > Albury: The Aboriginal name was Bungambrewatha, and when the township was > surveyed in 1839 it was given this name.As it was unmanageable, it was later > changed to Aldbury, probably after Aldbury in Hertfordshire.Later the "d" > was dropped and it became Albury. Aldbury means "Old fort". > > Culcain: The name was given by James Balfour, who was responsible for > arranging for the town to be laid out. He named it after the propety of the > Balfour faimly in England. > > Wagga Wagga: Aboriginal. Many crows. the word being an imitation of thier > call. The name comes from the station first owned by Robert Holt Best. > > Cootamundra: Aboriginal. Turtles,Swamp,:ow-lying. One authority says that > the original Aboriginal word was Gooramundra.In the form of Cootamondra, it > was a stock station owned by John Hurley in the 1830's. Later it was known > as teh "Village of Cootamundry". > > Young: Named after Sir John Young( later Baron Lisgar),Governor of New > South Wales. in 1861 during his term of office. An earlier name was Lambing > Flat. a small plain used as a lambing place. Aboriginal name. Burragong. A > sheep run first occupied by James White. > > Cowra: Aboriginal. Rocks. The first station there, owned by the Rev. Henry > Fulton, made the meaning doubly clear, being named after Cowra Rocks. > > Canowindra: Aboriginal. Home or Camping-place. > > Molong; Aboriginal. All rocks. Also the name of an estate in the vicinity > > > Wellington: Named Wellington Valley by John Oxley in August 1817 on his > journey in search of the Macquarie River,doubtless after the first Duke of > Wellington. > > Dubbo: >

Here are the first 11 place names, will do more tomorrow. Kerry in Cranbourne Yackandandah: Aboriginal. Mother and Hill. Wodonga: Aboriginal; Edible Nut. The first settlers were Paul and Charles Huon, who took up the Wodonga Run, and C.H. Ebden in 1836. When the town was gazetted in 1852 it was called Belvoir, but changed to Wodonga in 1876. As it was so much smaller than the neighbouring city of Albury across the border it was nicknamed Struggletwon for awhile. Albury: The Aboriginal name was Bungambrewatha, and when the township was surveyed in 1839 it was given this name.As it was unmanageable, it was later changed to Aldbury, probably after Aldbury in Hertfordshire.Later the "d" was dropped and it became Albury. Aldbury means "Old fort". Culcain: The name was given by James Balfour, who was responsible for arranging for the town to be laid out. He named it after the propety of the Balfour faimly in England. Wagga Wagga: Aboriginal. Many crows. the word being an imitation of thier call. The name comes from the station first owned by Robert Holt Best. Cootamundra: Aboriginal. Turtles,Swamp,:ow-lying. One authority says that the original Aboriginal word was Gooramundra.In the form of Cootamondra, it was a stock station owned by John Hurley in the 1830's. Later it was known as teh "Village of Cootamundry". Young: Named after Sir John Young( later Baron Lisgar),Governor of New South Wales. in 1861 during his term of office. An earlier name was Lambing Flat. a small plain used as a lambing place. Aboriginal name. Burragong. A sheep run first occupied by James White. Cowra: Aboriginal. Rocks. The first station there, owned by the Rev. Henry Fulton, made the meaning doubly clear, being named after Cowra Rocks. Canowindra: Aboriginal. Home or Camping-place. Molong; Aboriginal. All rocks. Also the name of an estate in the vicinity Wellington: Named Wellington Valley by John Oxley in August 1817 on his journey in search of the Macquarie River,doubtless after the first Duke of Wellington. Dubbo:

Kerry - this is fantastic information that I can use. Thank you so much. Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Bennett" <kben1679@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 10:43 PM Subject: [HC] RE. Place Name Meanings. > Here are the first 11 place names, will do more tomorrow. > Kerry in Cranbourne > > > Yackandandah: Aboriginal. Mother and Hill. > > Wodonga: Aboriginal; Edible Nut. The first settlers were Paul and > Charles > Huon, who took up the Wodonga Run, and C.H. Ebden in 1836. When the town > was > gazetted in 1852 it was called Belvoir, but changed to Wodonga in 1876. As > it was so much smaller than the neighbouring city of Albury across the > border it was nicknamed Struggletwon for awhile. > > Albury: The Aboriginal name was Bungambrewatha, and when the township was > surveyed in 1839 it was given this name.As it was unmanageable, it was > later > changed to Aldbury, probably after Aldbury in Hertfordshire.Later the "d" > was dropped and it became Albury. Aldbury means "Old fort". > > Culcain: The name was given by James Balfour, who was responsible for > arranging for the town to be laid out. He named it after the propety of > the > Balfour faimly in England. > > Wagga Wagga: Aboriginal. Many crows. the word being an imitation of thier > call. The name comes from the station first owned by Robert Holt Best. > > Cootamundra: Aboriginal. Turtles,Swamp,:ow-lying. One authority says > that > the original Aboriginal word was Gooramundra.In the form of Cootamondra, > it > was a stock station owned by John Hurley in the 1830's. Later it was known > as teh "Village of Cootamundry". > > Young: Named after Sir John Young( later Baron Lisgar),Governor of New > South Wales. in 1861 during his term of office. An earlier name was > Lambing > Flat. a small plain used as a lambing place. Aboriginal name. Burragong. A > sheep run first occupied by James White. > > Cowra: Aboriginal. Rocks. The first station there, owned by the Rev. Henry > Fulton, made the meaning doubly clear, being named after Cowra Rocks. > > Canowindra: Aboriginal. Home or Camping-place. > > Molong; Aboriginal. All rocks. Also the name of an estate in the > vicinity > > > Wellington: Named Wellington Valley by John Oxley in August 1817 on his > journey in search of the Macquarie River,doubtless after the first Duke of > Wellington. > > Dubbo: >

Hi Denise, Wangaratta, Aboriginal, meaning Cormorants rest, was the name of Faithful's home on the Oxley Plains. Cheers Ray. ----- Original Message ----- From: Denise <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 9:42 PM Subject: [HC] Meaning of town names > Next year I am playing 'tour guide in a small way to a small group of Americans. They will be coming to Beechworth in March - no worries with this town - but I would like some assistance as to how towns got their names. > e.g. > Yackandandah > Stanley > Albury > Wodonga > Wagga Wagga > Wangaratta > Chiltern > > and so forth into NSW and up to Qld where I'll be driving these Americans with help of my family. These I can source by other means as they are out of the area of this list. > > I guess I"m going to try to explain to my guests as I go, the meaning of towns, and a little history behind each area. Got to fill up two days driving with something. > > Anyway help me please? > > Denise > >