Just in from another list - Otago paper - http://www.odt.co.nz/ > Hi Wendy > > In about 1861 the word was out on the Otago gold rush had started in May. > And Cobb & Co had started a coach service between Dunedin and Gabriel's > Gully (Otago Goldfield). Although the Herald January 28th 1862 stated > that; > 'A batch of New Zealand diggers returned to Gipps Land last week and > reported they can do better at the Crooked river, than at Gabriel's Gully > or > at any of the diggings in that neighbourhood' > > I know a lot left Crooked River for this rush, not sure if many also went > from Beechworth, I have found ones from Castlemaine also leaving for > N.Zealand. > > Kerry > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wendy" <wendyfensom@optusnet.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 8:39 PM > Subject: Re: [HC] no messages > > > Hi Kerry, > Can you please tell me the date of the Otago gold rush? Some of my lot > went > to NZ - but I've never known why. Baaaaaaaa. > > Regards, > Wendy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kerry" <kerryb@austarnet.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:25 PM > Subject: Re: [HC] no messages > > >> Hi Denise, Bev, Zola, Ray and everyone that I have missed >> >> I have days where I can contribute and others where its head down > and ---up >> working on putting all this gobbley gook together. >> >> I will try and explain what I'm up too, I am putting together a book that > is >> about a group of Irish from Limerick, parishes being Glin and >> Shannagolden >> they were sent to Botany Bay in 1839 and were the first assisted > passengers >> (others being convicts) They were given hell in Botany Bay as the > squatters >> saw then as the beginning of ridding Ireland of is paupers at the > squatters >> expense. Only three of this group remained in Sydney. The others headed > and >> settled in areas like the Tumut, Manaro, Yass, Yackandandah, and >> Pakenham.(Gipplands before it had a road 1841) Their main purpose was to >> work and bring out family members and then they bought out family, so >> they >> started like a pyramid which criss-crosses the High Country. And they > stayed >> very much as a cohesive group. There are also letters that they have > written >> back to Ireland sending money etc.. Some of the names are: >> Healy, Dempsy, Nash, Nolan, Sheehy, Sheahan, O'Connor, O'Brian, Costello, >> Culhane, Enright, Kennelly, Hayes, Griffin, Gallagher, Danahar, McNamara, >> O'Connell, Connelly, Donnelly, Shanahan, Fitzgerald. (very Limerick >> names) >> >> For example: The Yackandandah family were the James O'Conor (connor) from >> Loughill near Glin parish and his wife Johanna Welch, with their four >> children they set off from Botany Bay with a dray and made it to Tumut > where >> he was employed. In 1841 he is squatting at Gooquek Flat, then 1849 > appears >> in Kiewa Valley. Then in 1853 he is leasing Murramurranbong station near >> Yackandandah. Then he is found in Beechworth. His son built the Junction >> Hotel (later Blazing Stump) near Wodonga. Their descendants are still > around >> the North East today. >> >> So why I have put all this here is because from time to time I will need >> support from anyone that has connections with these names. For example > Zola >> some of their descendants took off to New Zealand during the Goldrush in >> Otago. Are you able to access mining registers over there around Pipers >> Flat, I'm looking for John Culhane and wife Ellen nee O'Connor (1868) he >> returned and settled at Briagolong and James Enright and Bridget >> (nee)Hastings, I think he died over there or Bathurst (1872). He had a >> pub >> at Grant near Dargo. >> >> >> Kerry >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Zola Ortenburg" <zolaortenburg@bigpond.com> >> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:33 AM >> Subject: Re: [HC] no messages >> >> >> Hello Bev and other interested members, >> I am also here and thought the list had gone quiet due to a member >> complaining about the chat that was not necessarily on family history. >> In >> my opinion part of this wonderful list was (is) the companionship and >> helpfulness of the list, everyone appears to encourage when one's > searching >> begins to appear nigh on impossible. >> Keep up the good work everyone. >> Zola >> Researching : Pearce (Pierce), Barter, Beach (Betsch) Mahoney, Hart, >> Woolner, all in the high country area, plus the following Henderson, >> Mack, >> Addison, Freeman, Gracie, Nielson. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bev Walker" <bbwalker@vic.chariot.net.au> >> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:11 AM >> Subject: RE: [HC] no messages >> >> >> > Hi Denise, >> > I too am here, most of the time, plugging away at breaking >> > down all the brick walls my ancestors appear to have built >> > around themselves. They must have had a lot to hide. >> > >> > The Americans are the easiest for me, the history has been >> > well documented in America but once they came here it has >> > been harder to find. >> > >> > Most of my rellies were in the High Country around Omeo >> > and involved in farming and goldmining. They were >> > Sloan, Walter. Born USA. >> > Forsyth, Helen, borm Scotland, married the above Walter. >> > Many of the Forsyths were in the gold business and some >> > were lucky. >> > Forsyths were also prominent in Bright and all around that >> > area. There is another branch of the Sloan family who were >> > pioneers in that area, Isaac Sloan. >> > >> > So anything about Sloan, Forsyth families and their activities >> > are of particular interest to me. >> > >> > I have just found, for the information of Sloan's on the list, >> > the place where Grant Sloan died in South Africa in 1909. Thanks >> > to Max Dyer, and his constant search for historical events, that >> > I now have this info and hopefully follow it through to get a >> > death certificate, and burial place. I have a lovely photo of his >> > grave but there is not shred of evidence to suggest where it is. >> > My dream would be realized if that >> > were possible. ANY HELP with the difficult South Africa records >> > would be most helpful. >> > >> > I too miss the friendly chat and banter on the List, also the >> > information and the generosity of the Listers. It was always >> > nice to get up and see a long list of emails waiting to be read. >> > We all have other business to attend to and it is not so easy >> > to make the time stretch to get everything in now days. I am >> > sure that my advancing years also hold me back!!!!! >> > Best wishes to all, Bev. >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] >> > Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2004 12:29 AM >> > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com >> > Subject: Re: [HC] no messages >> > >> > >> > Richard - the list has been so quiet these past months, I wonder if any > of >> > the regulars are still members. I've heard of Wendy, Lyn, Ronda, Chris, >> > Peter, where is everyone else? With over 200 members as Di says, >> > what >> > happened to the other 190? Why not have a roll call and see how many >> > listers >> > are actually interested in connecting with others? What or who are you >> > researching Robert? >> > >> > My interests in the northeast are the names I posted last week, plus > from >> > the 1800s >> > Carboor Cheese Factory about which I know very very little >> > Carboor Hotel (Forest Park Hotel) >> > Coaching industry in the northeast and southern NSW >> > Mining >> > Wooragee, Everton, Beechworth, Woolshed, Chiltern >> > and the Upper Murray area. >> > >> > I am also interested in learning about Americans in the northeast - >> > the >> > way >> > my research has taken me I now wouldn't be surprised to find family > other >> > than Hiram, from America, in the area. >> > >> > Who else is game to list their interests. >> > Denise >> > >> > --- >> > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >> > Version: 6.0.784 / Virus Database: 530 - Release Date: 27/10/2004 >> > >> > --- >> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >> > Version: 6.0.784 / Virus Database: 530 - Release Date: 27/10/2004 >> > >> > >> >> >> > > >

Hi Wendy, It looks like Brainerd Stone helped my great grandfather (William Blewett) brew the tea.... Ovens & Murray Advertiser, March 7, 1891 Hillsborough State School Picnic (by Surmisor) Of course I went to Hillsborough, and, as a natural sequence, had a good time in that charming city of the hills. One gets into an entirely different atmosphere, both geographically and socially, in that altitude. The various sports, the results of which I append, seemed to please the numerous visitors from Stanley, Yackandandah, and other hamlets in the vicinity. The lady secretary (Miss Madge Kelly) was eminently efficient. The tables were attended to by Misses Folster, McKibbon, Michell, Ralph, McGowan and Waterson: Messrs Stone and Blewitt brewing the tea. Dancing was indulged in up to "wee sma' hoors," in the schoolroom, Mr. Chas. Harridge officiating as M.C., and Mr Thomas Nicholl supplying the music. Messrs Tresize and Michell favored the company with various vocal selections, which were well received. A long list of results follows, including the following names: Clingin, Wilberforce, Mummery, Folster, Johnston, Thomas, Jannon, Priestly, Burns, Buckley, Lee, McGowan, Crawford, Tresize, Waterson, Bigelow, Kinchington, Bruestdt, Stone, Ralph, Mongan. The judges were Messrs Clingin, McGowan and Martin, and the handicappers Messrs A. Stone, W. Waterson and R.McGowan.

Hi Wendy, I think Mrs. Anderson must have confused NOONAN with DOOLIN/DOOLAN/DOWLIN - I think you will find Maria under those names. Ronda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy" <wendyfensom@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [HC] Assorted Research Interests > Hi Ronda, > > After enjoying all of the emails in past months about the Hillsborough > episodes I never linked my Maria - I've never known who her parents were. > So thanks very much for setting me straight on this one. (Still can't find > her birth on the index under either STONE or NOONAN) but Brainerd and 'big' > Maria didn't marry until 1888 so she was born beforehand. > > Richard MILNE was my g-grandfather's brother so I guess 'little' Maria must > have been some sort of a g-aunt... > > I tracked Maria and Richard to Boulder WA where in 1905 it seems they had > twins, a boy (Arthur Herbert) and a girl (Mary Evelyn). The boy died in the > same year but the daughter grew up and married I think. I've not yet found > the deaths of Maria or Richard. > > No, I don't have the obit for Brainerd. > > Thanks very much, > Wendy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ronda Shambrook" <shambrookdr@dcsi.net.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 11:23 PM > Subject: Re: [HC] Assorted Research Interests > > > > Hi Wendy, > > > > Yes, I do have a little incidental information on the Stone family of > > Hillsborough ('little' Maria married Richard Milne). > > > > Maria's father was Brainerd Heber Stone, an American. Maria's mother was > > 'big' Maria Stone, and her honestly was called into question by some of > the > > other women. Do you already have Brainerd Stone's obituary? He died in > > 1895 and is buried at Yack. > > >

Hillsborough Picnic 1893 Yackandandah Times May 6th 1893 Hillsborough The annual picnic and ball in aid of the prize fund of the Hillsborough State School took place on Friday, 21st April There was an excellent attendance, visitors being present from all parts of the surrounding district, including Yackandandah and Stanley. During the afternoon all kinds of games were indulged in, whilst the school children were also studied in regard to races. Altogether a most enjoyable afternoon was spent. In the evening a dance was held at the state school, when there was again a good attendance. At midnight refreshments were served out, and dancing was afterwards resumed, being kept up till daylight. Mr Nichol of Allans Flat supplied the music, and Mr Harridge of Stanley acted as M.C. The head teacher, Miss Waterson, of course had the lion's share of the work in getting up the picnic and ball, but she was ably backed up by the following ladies:- Mrs Waterson, Miss Stone, Miss McKibbon, Miss Ralph, Miss Crawford, and Miss McGowan.

Hi Wendy, Henry Stone is a younger brother of Maria. Pupils 1894 The following pupils were enrolled at Hillsborough State School No. 889 on 5th April, 1894 (Head office in Melbourne was looking at closing the school) Mary E. McKibbin born 1886, distance from school 3miles Albert Clingin b. 1889 1/4 mile Stanley Ralph B 1886 1/4 mile Alexander Mc Cullough b. 1886 1/4 mile (only a visitor) May Clingin b. 1886 1/4 mile Wolesly Ralph b. 1885 1/4/ mile Gordon Ralph b. 1885 1/4 mile Reginald McMillan b. 1884 3 miles (only a visitor) Henry Stone b. 1883 1/2 mile Alfred Crawford b. 1881 1/4 mile Walter Clingin 1883 1/4 mile Martha Waterson 1880 5 miles William Crawford 1879 1/4 mile Percy Clingin 1882 1/4 mile Amelia Ralph 1878 1/4 mile Violet Waterson 1883 5 miles Names of children who have exemption certificates (Nil) Nearest existing school other than this (Stanley 5 miles) Names of children likely to attend in the immediate future: Cyril Trezise 3 yrs 6 months State of buildings: fairly good condition Character of roads in locality: Very rough and during winter very bad indeed. Margaret Waterson (teacher)

Hi Denise and Wendy, You will notice that Brainerd Stone appears in the list of disgruntled parents signing the petition. Ronda Hillsboro April 14th 1885 The Minister of the "Education Department" Sir We the undersigned residents of "Hillsboro" do hereby petition to the "Minister " of "Education" for the removal of "Mrs Anderson" the State School Teacher (No 889) as we consider, she is not a fit & proper person to instruct our children. As we have 30 children under 15 years of age, we are intitled to a "Male"Tacher" and we wish an inspector of Schools sent, when we will state our trouble more fully. We are sir, Yours obdt. Thos Andw Michell Rebecca Knight Mary Paull Hance McGowan John Ralph B.Stone Arthur Clingin WB Mitchell Some notes have been added in pencil beside two of the names (possibly by the inspector): Hance McGowan - stepfather of Arthur Welshman WB Mitchell - no children at school, youngest 21 years.

One of the drivers on this coach service you speak of was Charles D Ferguson, American. Charles had an interesting life in Australia (and briefly in NZ) before returning to the US many years later to visit his sister. He planned to return to Australia, but death got in the way. Hiram was once interviewed and spoke of Charles D working for him in the very early days of coaching. Charles has not mentioned Crawford and Co in his book, in fact mentions Cobb & Co. (who doesn't!!!!) but does mention driving coaches on the highway to Albury - Hiram was servicing this route late 1850s-1860s. And of course H had a route running under one of the Cobb banners. Another case of 'Hoover the carpet' don't worry about any other brands of vacuum cleaners, just use the most common name! This is one of my annoyances; Cobb & Co. is reported in so many stories and books and papers, when in fact it was some other company running that particular route. There are people researching coaching industry in relation to their own ancestor, and have been led to believe they drove or owned Cobb & Co. This had made it difficult for them to sort through, simply because in many instances their ancestor's name is not mentioned, only Cobb (the banner). A lot is attributed to Freeman Cobb and although whilst here he made money and opened up a great industry, he wasn't in Aust. for more than 3 or 4 years, it was the name that was perpetuated by many other men with their own lines after he left. Freeman returned to Massachusetts, became a Senator, married his cousin, moved to South Africa and started up yet another Cobb & Co. and died there, without looking it up again, about 1878 . The coaching industry continued on for a long time after Freeman left, and in fact in the northeast Victoria and southern NSW, Crawford & Co. continued for another 64 years. Better get off my box! Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry" <kerryb@austarnet.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [HC] no messages > Hi Wendy > > In about 1861 the word was out on the Otago gold rush had started in May. > And Cobb & Co had started a coach service between Dunedin and Gabriel's > Gully (Otago Goldfield). Although the Herald January 28th 1862 stated > that; > 'A batch of New Zealand diggers returned to Gipps Land last week and > reported they can do better at the Crooked river, than at Gabriel's Gully > or > at any of the diggings in that neighbourhood' > > I know a lot left Crooked River for this rush, not sure if many also went > from Beechworth, I have found ones from Castlemaine also leaving for > N.Zealand. > > Kerry > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wendy" <wendyfensom@optusnet.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 8:39 PM > Subject: Re: [HC] no messages > > > Hi Kerry, > Can you please tell me the date of the Otago gold rush? Some of my lot > went > to NZ - but I've never known why. Baaaaaaaa. > > Regards, > Wendy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kerry" <kerryb@austarnet.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:25 PM > Subject: Re: [HC] no messages > > >> Hi Denise, Bev, Zola, Ray and everyone that I have missed >> >> I have days where I can contribute and others where its head down > and ---up >> working on putting all this gobbley gook together. >> >> I will try and explain what I'm up too, I am putting together a book that > is >> about a group of Irish from Limerick, parishes being Glin and >> Shannagolden >> they were sent to Botany Bay in 1839 and were the first assisted > passengers >> (others being convicts) They were given hell in Botany Bay as the > squatters >> saw then as the beginning of ridding Ireland of is paupers at the > squatters >> expense. Only three of this group remained in Sydney. The others headed > and >> settled in areas like the Tumut, Manaro, Yass, Yackandandah, and >> Pakenham.(Gipplands before it had a road 1841) Their main purpose was to >> work and bring out family members and then they bought out family, so >> they >> started like a pyramid which criss-crosses the High Country. And they > stayed >> very much as a cohesive group. There are also letters that they have > written >> back to Ireland sending money etc.. Some of the names are: >> Healy, Dempsy, Nash, Nolan, Sheehy, Sheahan, O'Connor, O'Brian, Costello, >> Culhane, Enright, Kennelly, Hayes, Griffin, Gallagher, Danahar, McNamara, >> O'Connell, Connelly, Donnelly, Shanahan, Fitzgerald. (very Limerick >> names) >> >> For example: The Yackandandah family were the James O'Conor (connor) from >> Loughill near Glin parish and his wife Johanna Welch, with their four >> children they set off from Botany Bay with a dray and made it to Tumut > where >> he was employed. In 1841 he is squatting at Gooquek Flat, then 1849 > appears >> in Kiewa Valley. Then in 1853 he is leasing Murramurranbong station near >> Yackandandah. Then he is found in Beechworth. His son built the Junction >> Hotel (later Blazing Stump) near Wodonga. Their descendants are still > around >> the North East today. >> >> So why I have put all this here is because from time to time I will need >> support from anyone that has connections with these names. For example > Zola >> some of their descendants took off to New Zealand during the Goldrush in >> Otago. Are you able to access mining registers over there around Pipers >> Flat, I'm looking for John Culhane and wife Ellen nee O'Connor (1868) he >> returned and settled at Briagolong and James Enright and Bridget >> (nee)Hastings, I think he died over there or Bathurst (1872). He had a >> pub >> at Grant near Dargo. >> >> >> Kerry >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Zola Ortenburg" <zolaortenburg@bigpond.com> >> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:33 AM >> Subject: Re: [HC] no messages >> >> >> Hello Bev and other interested members, >> I am also here and thought the list had gone quiet due to a member >> complaining about the chat that was not necessarily on family history. >> In >> my opinion part of this wonderful list was (is) the companionship and >> helpfulness of the list, everyone appears to encourage when one's > searching >> begins to appear nigh on impossible. >> Keep up the good work everyone. >> Zola >> Researching : Pearce (Pierce), Barter, Beach (Betsch) Mahoney, Hart, >> Woolner, all in the high country area, plus the following Henderson, >> Mack, >> Addison, Freeman, Gracie, Nielson. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bev Walker" <bbwalker@vic.chariot.net.au> >> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:11 AM >> Subject: RE: [HC] no messages >> >> >> > Hi Denise, >> > I too am here, most of the time, plugging away at breaking >> > down all the brick walls my ancestors appear to have built >> > around themselves. They must have had a lot to hide. >> > >> > The Americans are the easiest for me, the history has been >> > well documented in America but once they came here it has >> > been harder to find. >> > >> > Most of my rellies were in the High Country around Omeo >> > and involved in farming and goldmining. They were >> > Sloan, Walter. Born USA. >> > Forsyth, Helen, borm Scotland, married the above Walter. >> > Many of the Forsyths were in the gold business and some >> > were lucky. >> > Forsyths were also prominent in Bright and all around that >> > area. There is another branch of the Sloan family who were >> > pioneers in that area, Isaac Sloan. >> > >> > So anything about Sloan, Forsyth families and their activities >> > are of particular interest to me. >> > >> > I have just found, for the information of Sloan's on the list, >> > the place where Grant Sloan died in South Africa in 1909. Thanks >> > to Max Dyer, and his constant search for historical events, that >> > I now have this info and hopefully follow it through to get a >> > death certificate, and burial place. I have a lovely photo of his >> > grave but there is not shred of evidence to suggest where it is. >> > My dream would be realized if that >> > were possible. ANY HELP with the difficult South Africa records >> > would be most helpful. >> > >> > I too miss the friendly chat and banter on the List, also the >> > information and the generosity of the Listers. It was always >> > nice to get up and see a long list of emails waiting to be read. >> > We all have other business to attend to and it is not so easy >> > to make the time stretch to get everything in now days. I am >> > sure that my advancing years also hold me back!!!!! >> > Best wishes to all, Bev. >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] >> > Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2004 12:29 AM >> > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com >> > Subject: Re: [HC] no messages >> > >> > >> > Richard - the list has been so quiet these past months, I wonder if any > of >> > the regulars are still members. I've heard of Wendy, Lyn, Ronda, Chris, >> > Peter, where is everyone else? With over 200 members as Di says, >> > what >> > happened to the other 190? Why not have a roll call and see how many >> > listers >> > are actually interested in connecting with others? What or who are you >> > researching Robert? >> > >> > My interests in the northeast are the names I posted last week, plus > from >> > the 1800s >> > Carboor Cheese Factory about which I know very very little >> > Carboor Hotel (Forest Park Hotel) >> > Coaching industry in the northeast and southern NSW >> > Mining >> > Wooragee, Everton, Beechworth, Woolshed, Chiltern >> > and the Upper Murray area. >> > >> > I am also interested in learning about Americans in the northeast - >> > the >> > way >> > my research has taken me I now wouldn't be surprised to find family > other >> > than Hiram, from America, in the area. >> > >> > Who else is game to list their interests. >> > Denise >> > >> > --- >> > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >> > Version: 6.0.784 / Virus Database: 530 - Release Date: 27/10/2004 >> > >> > --- >> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >> > Version: 6.0.784 / Virus Database: 530 - Release Date: 27/10/2004 >> > >> > >> >> >> > > >

Have a book written by an American who once worked in Beechworth and then brought his travelling show thru the town. He came to Aust mining, took on other jobs and at one point went over to what he called "the middle Island of New Zealand". Gold was found by Gabriel Read at Tuapeka Otago Province in May 1861. He speaks of Otago, Gabriel's Gully, Golden Age Hotel with old Victorian Harry Richmond who left Aust after going thru the Insolvent Court Victoria. The fields weren't according to the author at all successful, not even one in ten had their expectations realized. Names - Charles Carlos Cole and Henry Hoyt - formed Cole Hoyt & Co. (coaches) - both Americans from Victoria. The author then left for Arrow river 50 miles from Dunstan. Not much for you, but just in case the names crop up in the tree - Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry" <kerryb@austarnet.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [HC] no messages > Hi Wendy > > In about 1861 the word was out on the Otago gold rush had started in May. > And Cobb & Co had started a coach service between Dunedin and Gabriel's > Gully (Otago Goldfield). Although the Herald January 28th 1862 stated > that; > 'A batch of New Zealand diggers returned to Gipps Land last week and > reported they can do better at the Crooked river, than at Gabriel's Gully > or > at any of the diggings in that neighbourhood' > > I know a lot left Crooked River for this rush, not sure if many also went > from Beechworth, I have found ones from Castlemaine also leaving for > N.Zealand. > > Kerry > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wendy" <wendyfensom@optusnet.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 8:39 PM > Subject: Re: [HC] no messages > > > Hi Kerry, > Can you please tell me the date of the Otago gold rush? Some of my lot > went > to NZ - but I've never known why. Baaaaaaaa. > > Regards, > Wendy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kerry" <kerryb@austarnet.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:25 PM > Subject: Re: [HC] no messages > > >> Hi Denise, Bev, Zola, Ray and everyone that I have missed >> >> I have days where I can contribute and others where its head down > and ---up >> working on putting all this gobbley gook together. >> >> I will try and explain what I'm up too, I am putting together a book that > is >> about a group of Irish from Limerick, parishes being Glin and >> Shannagolden >> they were sent to Botany Bay in 1839 and were the first assisted > passengers >> (others being convicts) They were given hell in Botany Bay as the > squatters >> saw then as the beginning of ridding Ireland of is paupers at the > squatters >> expense. Only three of this group remained in Sydney. The others headed > and >> settled in areas like the Tumut, Manaro, Yass, Yackandandah, and >> Pakenham.(Gipplands before it had a road 1841) Their main purpose was to >> work and bring out family members and then they bought out family, so >> they >> started like a pyramid which criss-crosses the High Country. And they > stayed >> very much as a cohesive group. There are also letters that they have > written >> back to Ireland sending money etc.. Some of the names are: >> Healy, Dempsy, Nash, Nolan, Sheehy, Sheahan, O'Connor, O'Brian, Costello, >> Culhane, Enright, Kennelly, Hayes, Griffin, Gallagher, Danahar, McNamara, >> O'Connell, Connelly, Donnelly, Shanahan, Fitzgerald. (very Limerick >> names) >> >> For example: The Yackandandah family were the James O'Conor (connor) from >> Loughill near Glin parish and his wife Johanna Welch, with their four >> children they set off from Botany Bay with a dray and made it to Tumut > where >> he was employed. In 1841 he is squatting at Gooquek Flat, then 1849 > appears >> in Kiewa Valley. Then in 1853 he is leasing Murramurranbong station near >> Yackandandah. Then he is found in Beechworth. His son built the Junction >> Hotel (later Blazing Stump) near Wodonga. Their descendants are still > around >> the North East today. >> >> So why I have put all this here is because from time to time I will need >> support from anyone that has connections with these names. For example > Zola >> some of their descendants took off to New Zealand during the Goldrush in >> Otago. Are you able to access mining registers over there around Pipers >> Flat, I'm looking for John Culhane and wife Ellen nee O'Connor (1868) he >> returned and settled at Briagolong and James Enright and Bridget >> (nee)Hastings, I think he died over there or Bathurst (1872). He had a >> pub >> at Grant near Dargo. >> >> >> Kerry >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Zola Ortenburg" <zolaortenburg@bigpond.com> >> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:33 AM >> Subject: Re: [HC] no messages >> >> >> Hello Bev and other interested members, >> I am also here and thought the list had gone quiet due to a member >> complaining about the chat that was not necessarily on family history. >> In >> my opinion part of this wonderful list was (is) the companionship and >> helpfulness of the list, everyone appears to encourage when one's > searching >> begins to appear nigh on impossible. >> Keep up the good work everyone. >> Zola >> Researching : Pearce (Pierce), Barter, Beach (Betsch) Mahoney, Hart, >> Woolner, all in the high country area, plus the following Henderson, >> Mack, >> Addison, Freeman, Gracie, Nielson. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bev Walker" <bbwalker@vic.chariot.net.au> >> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:11 AM >> Subject: RE: [HC] no messages >> >> >> > Hi Denise, >> > I too am here, most of the time, plugging away at breaking >> > down all the brick walls my ancestors appear to have built >> > around themselves. They must have had a lot to hide. >> > >> > The Americans are the easiest for me, the history has been >> > well documented in America but once they came here it has >> > been harder to find. >> > >> > Most of my rellies were in the High Country around Omeo >> > and involved in farming and goldmining. They were >> > Sloan, Walter. Born USA. >> > Forsyth, Helen, borm Scotland, married the above Walter. >> > Many of the Forsyths were in the gold business and some >> > were lucky. >> > Forsyths were also prominent in Bright and all around that >> > area. There is another branch of the Sloan family who were >> > pioneers in that area, Isaac Sloan. >> > >> > So anything about Sloan, Forsyth families and their activities >> > are of particular interest to me. >> > >> > I have just found, for the information of Sloan's on the list, >> > the place where Grant Sloan died in South Africa in 1909. Thanks >> > to Max Dyer, and his constant search for historical events, that >> > I now have this info and hopefully follow it through to get a >> > death certificate, and burial place. I have a lovely photo of his >> > grave but there is not shred of evidence to suggest where it is. >> > My dream would be realized if that >> > were possible. ANY HELP with the difficult South Africa records >> > would be most helpful. >> > >> > I too miss the friendly chat and banter on the List, also the >> > information and the generosity of the Listers. It was always >> > nice to get up and see a long list of emails waiting to be read. >> > We all have other business to attend to and it is not so easy >> > to make the time stretch to get everything in now days. I am >> > sure that my advancing years also hold me back!!!!! >> > Best wishes to all, Bev. >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] >> > Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2004 12:29 AM >> > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com >> > Subject: Re: [HC] no messages >> > >> > >> > Richard - the list has been so quiet these past months, I wonder if any > of >> > the regulars are still members. I've heard of Wendy, Lyn, Ronda, Chris, >> > Peter, where is everyone else? With over 200 members as Di says, >> > what >> > happened to the other 190? Why not have a roll call and see how many >> > listers >> > are actually interested in connecting with others? What or who are you >> > researching Robert? >> > >> > My interests in the northeast are the names I posted last week, plus > from >> > the 1800s >> > Carboor Cheese Factory about which I know very very little >> > Carboor Hotel (Forest Park Hotel) >> > Coaching industry in the northeast and southern NSW >> > Mining >> > Wooragee, Everton, Beechworth, Woolshed, Chiltern >> > and the Upper Murray area. >> > >> > I am also interested in learning about Americans in the northeast - >> > the >> > way >> > my research has taken me I now wouldn't be surprised to find family > other >> > than Hiram, from America, in the area. >> > >> > Who else is game to list their interests. >> > Denise >> > >> > --- >> > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >> > Version: 6.0.784 / Virus Database: 530 - Release Date: 27/10/2004 >> > >> > --- >> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >> > Version: 6.0.784 / Virus Database: 530 - Release Date: 27/10/2004 >> > >> > >> >> >> > > >

thanks Ronda, enjoy reading of the local activities. Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronda Shambrook" <shambrookdr@dcsi.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 8:37 AM Subject: [HC] Unhappy parents - B.Stone > Hi Denise and Wendy, > > You will notice that Brainerd Stone appears in the list of disgruntled > parents signing the petition. > > Ronda > > > > Hillsboro > April 14th 1885 > > The Minister of the "Education Department" > > Sir > We the undersigned residents of "Hillsboro" do hereby petition to the > "Minister " of "Education" for the removal of "Mrs Anderson" the State > School Teacher (No 889) as we consider, she is not a fit & proper person > to instruct our children. As we have 30 children under 15 years of age, > we are intitled to a "Male"Tacher" and we wish an inspector of Schools > sent, when we will state our trouble more fully. > We are sir, > Yours obdt. > Thos Andw Michell > Rebecca Knight > Mary Paull > Hance McGowan > John Ralph > B.Stone > Arthur Clingin > WB Mitchell > > Some notes have been added in pencil beside two of the names (possibly by > the inspector): > Hance McGowan - stepfather of Arthur Welshman > WB Mitchell - no children at school, youngest 21 years. >

Hi Ronda, Thanks for this one too. I've just welcomed Brainerd to the family tree! Cheers, Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronda Shambrook" <shambrookdr@dcsi.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 11:39 PM Subject: [HC] Brainerd Stone obit > from the Yack Times: > > Yackandandah Times, Friday, March 29, 1895 > > > We regret to record the death of another of the old identities, Mr Brainerd H Stone of Hillsborough who passed away on Sunday last. For some years past he had been suffering from a lupus in the ear and although he suffered a good deal therefrom it was soothing to the feelings of Mrs Stone and family to see that his end was a peaceful one. The funeral took place on Monday and was largely attended. Mr Stone had been in the district since the early settlement, in fact he is credited with having sunk the first hole along the Yackandandah Creek. He had been a resident of Hillsborough thirty years having been engaged most of the time with reefing. He was 68 years of age at the time of his death and leaves a family, mostly grown up. > > >

Hi Ronda, After enjoying all of the emails in past months about the Hillsborough episodes I never linked my Maria - I've never known who her parents were. So thanks very much for setting me straight on this one. (Still can't find her birth on the index under either STONE or NOONAN) but Brainerd and 'big' Maria didn't marry until 1888 so she was born beforehand. Richard MILNE was my g-grandfather's brother so I guess 'little' Maria must have been some sort of a g-aunt... I tracked Maria and Richard to Boulder WA where in 1905 it seems they had twins, a boy (Arthur Herbert) and a girl (Mary Evelyn). The boy died in the same year but the daughter grew up and married I think. I've not yet found the deaths of Maria or Richard. No, I don't have the obit for Brainerd. Thanks very much, Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronda Shambrook" <shambrookdr@dcsi.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Assorted Research Interests > Hi Wendy, > > Yes, I do have a little incidental information on the Stone family of > Hillsborough ('little' Maria married Richard Milne). > > Maria's father was Brainerd Heber Stone, an American. Maria's mother was > 'big' Maria Stone, and her honestly was called into question by some of the > other women. Do you already have Brainerd Stone's obituary? He died in > 1895 and is buried at Yack. >

I am always interested in Brainerd Wendy/Ronda and all. Collecting as much as I can about Americans in the north east - Thanks Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy" <wendyfensom@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [HC] Assorted Research Interests > Hi Ronda, > > After enjoying all of the emails in past months about the Hillsborough > episodes I never linked my Maria - I've never known who her parents were. > So thanks very much for setting me straight on this one. (Still can't > find > her birth on the index under either STONE or NOONAN) but Brainerd and > 'big' > Maria didn't marry until 1888 so she was born beforehand. > > Richard MILNE was my g-grandfather's brother so I guess 'little' Maria > must > have been some sort of a g-aunt... > > I tracked Maria and Richard to Boulder WA where in 1905 it seems they had > twins, a boy (Arthur Herbert) and a girl (Mary Evelyn). The boy died in > the > same year but the daughter grew up and married I think. I've not yet > found > the deaths of Maria or Richard. > > No, I don't have the obit for Brainerd. > > Thanks very much, > Wendy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ronda Shambrook" <shambrookdr@dcsi.net.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 11:23 PM > Subject: Re: [HC] Assorted Research Interests > > >> Hi Wendy, >> >> Yes, I do have a little incidental information on the Stone family of >> Hillsborough ('little' Maria married Richard Milne). >> >> Maria's father was Brainerd Heber Stone, an American. Maria's mother was >> 'big' Maria Stone, and her honestly was called into question by some of > the >> other women. Do you already have Brainerd Stone's obituary? He died in >> 1895 and is buried at Yack. >> >

Hi all, I was directed to a great page on MSN. You don't have to be a member to check it out. It's got a huge list of links. http://groups.msn.com/TheyWenttoAustralia Just click on one of the many titles on the left side of the page in the blue shaded area and it will come up with a page of links, or a person's message with a link. There's some great ones there. Jackie QLD

Hello all, Does someone know the correct mailing address of the Kiewa Valley Historical Society? I've looked on the Internet and found three addresses for the same organisation. Regards, Anthony _________________________________________________________________ SEEK: Now with over 50,000 dream jobs! Click here: http://ninemsn.seek.com.au?hotmail

Thanks for the snippet Ronda, much appreciated. Anthony >From: "Ronda Shambrook" <shambrookdr@dcsi.net.au> >Reply-To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com >To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [HC] Hillsborough - Stone >Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 09:48:14 +1100 > >Hi Wendy, > >It looks like Brainerd Stone helped my great grandfather (William Blewett) >brew the tea.... > > > >Ovens & Murray Advertiser, March 7, 1891 > >Hillsborough State School Picnic >(by Surmisor) > >Of course I went to Hillsborough, and, as a natural sequence, had a good >time in that charming city of the hills. One gets into an entirely >different atmosphere, both geographically and socially, in that altitude. >The various sports, the results of which I append, seemed to please the >numerous visitors from Stanley, Yackandandah, and other hamlets in the >vicinity. The lady secretary (Miss Madge Kelly) was eminently efficient. >The tables were attended to by Misses Folster, McKibbon, Michell, Ralph, >McGowan and Waterson: Messrs Stone and Blewitt brewing the tea. Dancing >was indulged in up to "wee sma' hoors," in the schoolroom, Mr. Chas. >Harridge officiating as M.C., and Mr Thomas Nicholl supplying the music. >Messrs Tresize and Michell favored the company with various vocal >selections, which were well received. > >A long list of results follows, including the following names: >Clingin, Wilberforce, Mummery, Folster, Johnston, Thomas, Jannon, Priestly, >Burns, Buckley, Lee, McGowan, Crawford, Tresize, Waterson, Bigelow, >Kinchington, Bruestdt, Stone, Ralph, Mongan. > >The judges were Messrs Clingin, McGowan and Martin, and the handicappers >Messrs A. Stone, W. Waterson and R.McGowan. > _________________________________________________________________ Sell your car for $9 on carpoint.com.au http://server-au.imrworldwide.com/cgi-bin/b?cg=link&ci=ninemsn&tu=http://carpoint.ninemsn.com.au?refid=hotmail_tagline

Hi Ronda, I've seen Edward Kelly and Joshua Bigelow take out numerous mining claims over the years, however there doesn't appear to be much information on the fellow. Can you shed any light on Kelly? Glad your uncle liked the photo's, and at some point I'll need to investigate the locality of Hillsborough and Bruarong further. I am interested to try and find the tramway that ran between the Homeward Bound mine and the crushing mill, apparently you can still see the ditch that it ran along. Cheers, Anthony >From: "Ronda Shambrook" <shambrookdr@dcsi.net.au> >Reply-To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com >To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [HC] Roll Call >Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 23:33:21 +1100 > >Hi Anthony, > >What is your interest in Edward Kelly of Hillsborough? > >By the way,I did a copy of your Hillsborough/Sutton/Bruarong photos for my >uncle, and he was very impressed. >Thanks again, > >Ronda >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Anthony Bigelow" <anthonybigelow@hotmail.com> >To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 6:32 PM >Subject: [HC] Roll Call > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > I would like to thank everyone for helping out this year, genealogically > > speaking it's certainly been very rewarding, and this list has had a lot >to > > do with that success. > > > > My interests relate to the following: > > > > TOWNS/LOCALITY: STANLEY, OSBORNE'S FLAT, HILLSBOROUGH, SUTTON/BRUARONG, > > ROCKY POINT > > > > SURNAMES: BIGELOW, Mc CARTER, WISEMAN, LOONIE, Edward KELLY, Hugh >FULTON, > > SNOW > > > > Thanks again, > > Anthony > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Sell your car for $9 on carpoint.com.au > > >http://server-au.imrworldwide.com/cgi-bin/b?cg=link&ci=ninemsn&tu=http://carpoint.ninemsn.com.au?refid=hotmail_tagline > > > _________________________________________________________________ SEEK: Now with over 50,000 dream jobs! Click here: http://ninemsn.seek.com.au?hotmail

Yes I am Kerry :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bev Walker" <bbwalker@vic.chariot.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 9:18 PM Subject: [HC] Re. Plenty still here! Hey, it is great to have so many on the List again. We just needed a little nudge and it is off and running again. Sadly I haven't seen anyone interested in the Sloan and Forsyth names yet. Is there anyone still in interested in the pioneers of Benambra? Regards. Bev --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.784 / Virus Database: 530 - Release Date: 27/10/2004

Hi Wendy In about 1861 the word was out on the Otago gold rush had started in May. And Cobb & Co had started a coach service between Dunedin and Gabriel's Gully (Otago Goldfield). Although the Herald January 28th 1862 stated that; 'A batch of New Zealand diggers returned to Gipps Land last week and reported they can do better at the Crooked river, than at Gabriel's Gully or at any of the diggings in that neighbourhood' I know a lot left Crooked River for this rush, not sure if many also went from Beechworth, I have found ones from Castlemaine also leaving for N.Zealand. Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy" <wendyfensom@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [HC] no messages Hi Kerry, Can you please tell me the date of the Otago gold rush? Some of my lot went to NZ - but I've never known why. Baaaaaaaa. Regards, Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry" <kerryb@austarnet.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [HC] no messages > Hi Denise, Bev, Zola, Ray and everyone that I have missed > > I have days where I can contribute and others where its head down and ---up > working on putting all this gobbley gook together. > > I will try and explain what I'm up too, I am putting together a book that is > about a group of Irish from Limerick, parishes being Glin and Shannagolden > they were sent to Botany Bay in 1839 and were the first assisted passengers > (others being convicts) They were given hell in Botany Bay as the squatters > saw then as the beginning of ridding Ireland of is paupers at the squatters > expense. Only three of this group remained in Sydney. The others headed and > settled in areas like the Tumut, Manaro, Yass, Yackandandah, and > Pakenham.(Gipplands before it had a road 1841) Their main purpose was to > work and bring out family members and then they bought out family, so they > started like a pyramid which criss-crosses the High Country. And they stayed > very much as a cohesive group. There are also letters that they have written > back to Ireland sending money etc.. Some of the names are: > Healy, Dempsy, Nash, Nolan, Sheehy, Sheahan, O'Connor, O'Brian, Costello, > Culhane, Enright, Kennelly, Hayes, Griffin, Gallagher, Danahar, McNamara, > O'Connell, Connelly, Donnelly, Shanahan, Fitzgerald. (very Limerick names) > > For example: The Yackandandah family were the James O'Conor (connor) from > Loughill near Glin parish and his wife Johanna Welch, with their four > children they set off from Botany Bay with a dray and made it to Tumut where > he was employed. In 1841 he is squatting at Gooquek Flat, then 1849 appears > in Kiewa Valley. Then in 1853 he is leasing Murramurranbong station near > Yackandandah. Then he is found in Beechworth. His son built the Junction > Hotel (later Blazing Stump) near Wodonga. Their descendants are still around > the North East today. > > So why I have put all this here is because from time to time I will need > support from anyone that has connections with these names. For example Zola > some of their descendants took off to New Zealand during the Goldrush in > Otago. Are you able to access mining registers over there around Pipers > Flat, I'm looking for John Culhane and wife Ellen nee O'Connor (1868) he > returned and settled at Briagolong and James Enright and Bridget > (nee)Hastings, I think he died over there or Bathurst (1872). He had a pub > at Grant near Dargo. > > > Kerry > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zola Ortenburg" <zolaortenburg@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:33 AM > Subject: Re: [HC] no messages > > > Hello Bev and other interested members, > I am also here and thought the list had gone quiet due to a member > complaining about the chat that was not necessarily on family history. In > my opinion part of this wonderful list was (is) the companionship and > helpfulness of the list, everyone appears to encourage when one's searching > begins to appear nigh on impossible. > Keep up the good work everyone. > Zola > Researching : Pearce (Pierce), Barter, Beach (Betsch) Mahoney, Hart, > Woolner, all in the high country area, plus the following Henderson, Mack, > Addison, Freeman, Gracie, Nielson. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bev Walker" <bbwalker@vic.chariot.net.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:11 AM > Subject: RE: [HC] no messages > > > > Hi Denise, > > I too am here, most of the time, plugging away at breaking > > down all the brick walls my ancestors appear to have built > > around themselves. They must have had a lot to hide. > > > > The Americans are the easiest for me, the history has been > > well documented in America but once they came here it has > > been harder to find. > > > > Most of my rellies were in the High Country around Omeo > > and involved in farming and goldmining. They were > > Sloan, Walter. Born USA. > > Forsyth, Helen, borm Scotland, married the above Walter. > > Many of the Forsyths were in the gold business and some > > were lucky. > > Forsyths were also prominent in Bright and all around that > > area. There is another branch of the Sloan family who were > > pioneers in that area, Isaac Sloan. > > > > So anything about Sloan, Forsyth families and their activities > > are of particular interest to me. > > > > I have just found, for the information of Sloan's on the list, > > the place where Grant Sloan died in South Africa in 1909. Thanks > > to Max Dyer, and his constant search for historical events, that > > I now have this info and hopefully follow it through to get a > > death certificate, and burial place. I have a lovely photo of his > > grave but there is not shred of evidence to suggest where it is. > > My dream would be realized if that > > were possible. ANY HELP with the difficult South Africa records > > would be most helpful. > > > > I too miss the friendly chat and banter on the List, also the > > information and the generosity of the Listers. It was always > > nice to get up and see a long list of emails waiting to be read. > > We all have other business to attend to and it is not so easy > > to make the time stretch to get everything in now days. I am > > sure that my advancing years also hold me back!!!!! > > Best wishes to all, Bev. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] > > Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2004 12:29 AM > > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [HC] no messages > > > > > > Richard - the list has been so quiet these past months, I wonder if any of > > the regulars are still members. I've heard of Wendy, Lyn, Ronda, Chris, > > Peter, where is everyone else? With over 200 members as Di says, what > > happened to the other 190? Why not have a roll call and see how many > > listers > > are actually interested in connecting with others? What or who are you > > researching Robert? > > > > My interests in the northeast are the names I posted last week, plus from > > the 1800s > > Carboor Cheese Factory about which I know very very little > > Carboor Hotel (Forest Park Hotel) > > Coaching industry in the northeast and southern NSW > > Mining > > Wooragee, Everton, Beechworth, Woolshed, Chiltern > > and the Upper Murray area. > > > > I am also interested in learning about Americans in the northeast - the > > way > > my research has taken me I now wouldn't be surprised to find family other > > than Hiram, from America, in the area. > > > > Who else is game to list their interests. > > Denise > > > > --- > > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.784 / Virus Database: 530 - Release Date: 27/10/2004 > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.784 / Virus Database: 530 - Release Date: 27/10/2004 > > > > > > >

Hi Lorraine do your McIntosh's relate to the ones at Harrietville? Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorraine Calvert" <rainbear@planet.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 7:36 PM Subject: RE: [HC] no messages Hi Fellow Listers I also am still here. My names in the NE are BARCLAY (Albury/Granya area), McINTOSH (Yackandandah), JOYNSON (Albury/possibly Granya area), WEBB (Granya) Lorraine Calvert rainbear@planet.net.au - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.792 / Virus Database: 536 - Release Date: 9/11/2004

from the Yack Times: Yackandandah Times, Friday, March 29, 1895 We regret to record the death of another of the old identities, Mr Brainerd H Stone of Hillsborough who passed away on Sunday last. For some years past he had been suffering from a lupus in the ear and although he suffered a good deal therefrom it was soothing to the feelings of Mrs Stone and family to see that his end was a peaceful one. The funeral took place on Monday and was largely attended. Mr Stone had been in the district since the early settlement, in fact he is credited with having sunk the first hole along the Yackandandah Creek. He had been a resident of Hillsborough thirty years having been engaged most of the time with reefing. He was 68 years of age at the time of his death and leaves a family, mostly grown up.