Hi Bev, Yes, I've had various emails over the years from places like Nigeria and the Ivory Coast wanting my bank account details, etc. They pop up every now and then. The worst ones at the moment seem to be the 'drug' web sites wanting to sell cheap tablets, etc. I have cut my junk mail by around 90 percent or even more - my provider provides a free service and they automatically dump most of the junk into a special mailbox where it stays for two weeks so that you can check it if you want to. I didn't have to say what had to be dumped like some software systems do - they just seem to be able to identify most of it somehow. It's great as I only receive a handful of rubbish a week instead of truckloads and I never bother to check any more. I imagine more network providers will provide this type of service in the future so it might pay you to check with yours. Regards, Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bev Walker" <bbwalker@vic.chariot.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 10:34 AM Subject: [HC] Re Junk Mail > Goodmorning All. > > Just turned on the PC and once again there is the email, > from the Ivory Coast this time, wanting me to take money > etc. Obviously all a scam, but I wonder do any of you get > it as well. It is a nuisance which will be disposed of right > now, but I am curious as to whether others have the same > problem. > Thanks. Bev > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.795 / Virus Database: 539 - Release Date: 12/11/2004 > >

Dear Jackie, Thanks for this one - very informative. Mary of Melbourne > Hi all, > I was directed to a great page on MSN. You don't have to be a member to > check it out. > It's got a huge list of links. > > http://groups.msn.com/TheyWenttoAustralia > > Just click on one of the many titles on the left side of the page in the > blue shaded area and it will come up with a page of links, or a person's > message with a link. > There's some great ones there. > > Jackie > QLD > > >

Goodmorning All.   Just turned on the PC and once again there is the email, from the Ivory Coast this time, wanting me to take money etc.  Obviously all a scam, but I wonder do any of you get it as well.  It is a nuisance which will be disposed of right now, but I am curious as to whether others have the same problem. Thanks.  Bev --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.795 / Virus Database: 539 - Release Date: 12/11/2004

Bev - I have three email addresses. I get hundreds of spam per day, it is pest, but not much to do about it,, except changing email addresses - but this only works until you have used your new one on the net for a while. However, if changing your email address you lose the chance of someone finding you if you have left a message somewhere eg the archives of this list. I have an old one - must be 5 years old and it has only spam on it. However, once every couple of months I find a letter from someone, and most of these have been so great a new family, new cousin, new connection, I can't possibly cancel this address. I have one which gets no spam - that is my Google mail address. I am always getting the opportunity to invite 6 friends to gmail - let me know OFF LIST if you want a free email address. It's a new concept, but pretty good. regards Denise > Goodmorning All. > > Just turned on the PC and once again there is the email, > from the Ivory Coast this time, wanting me to take money > etc. Obviously all a scam, but I wonder do any of you get > it as well. It is a nuisance which will be disposed of right > now, but I am curious as to whether others have the same > problem. > Thanks. Bev > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.795 / Virus Database: 539 - Release Date: 12/11/2004 > >

I'm new to this group but would love any information on the following families. WALLACE, Albert and Janet Burns Wallace (Kennedy) and families FARRELLY, Clara Agnes married my grandfather Matthew Wallace in 1906 in Porepunkah. KENNEDY, David and Janet Kennedy (Burns) and their families. O'BRIEN, Jeffrey and Ellen (O'Dea) and family. Their daughter Julia O'Brien married Thomas Farrelly in 1854. KNEEBONE, I have nothing on this family except Lena Maud married Albert Wallace and Louisa Maria married William Wallace. O'DEA Anything on this family. I read all the emails with interest and hope that one day one of my families will be discussed. Cheers Val

Hi Wendy, Does your O'Brien family include Jeffery and Ellen (O'Dea) and Julia who married Thomas Farrelly? Val

Thanks again Ronda, and also for the information regarding Henry. I didn't know about him either of course. Kind regards, Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronda Shambrook" <shambrookdr@dcsi.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [HC] Assorted Research Interests > Hi Wendy, > > I think Mrs. Anderson must have confused NOONAN with DOOLIN/DOOLAN/DOWLIN - > I think you will find Maria under those names. > > Ronda > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wendy" <wendyfensom@optusnet.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 8:55 AM > Subject: Re: [HC] Assorted Research Interests > > > > Hi Ronda, > > > > After enjoying all of the emails in past months about the Hillsborough > > episodes I never linked my Maria - I've never known who her parents were. > > So thanks very much for setting me straight on this one. (Still can't > find > > her birth on the index under either STONE or NOONAN) but Brainerd and > 'big' > > Maria didn't marry until 1888 so she was born beforehand. > > > > Richard MILNE was my g-grandfather's brother so I guess 'little' Maria > must > > have been some sort of a g-aunt... > > > > I tracked Maria and Richard to Boulder WA where in 1905 it seems they had > > twins, a boy (Arthur Herbert) and a girl (Mary Evelyn). The boy died in > the > > same year but the daughter grew up and married I think. I've not yet > found > > the deaths of Maria or Richard. > > > > No, I don't have the obit for Brainerd. > > > > Thanks very much, > > Wendy > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ronda Shambrook" <shambrookdr@dcsi.net.au> > > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 11:23 PM > > Subject: Re: [HC] Assorted Research Interests > > > > > > > Hi Wendy, > > > > > > Yes, I do have a little incidental information on the Stone family of > > > Hillsborough ('little' Maria married Richard Milne). > > > > > > Maria's father was Brainerd Heber Stone, an American. Maria's mother > was > > > 'big' Maria Stone, and her honestly was called into question by some of > > the > > > other women. Do you already have Brainerd Stone's obituary? He died in > > > 1895 and is buried at Yack. > > > > > >

Hi Everyone, This Web site might be of interest to some of you - it lists quite a few databases. http://www.xroyvision.com.au/genlinks/databases.html Regards, Wendy

Sounds like a good time was had by all - even if they were drinking tea! Thanks Ronda - it's great. Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronda Shambrook" <shambrookdr@dcsi.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 9:48 AM Subject: [HC] Hillsborough - Stone > Hi Wendy, > > It looks like Brainerd Stone helped my great grandfather (William Blewett) brew the tea.... > > > > Ovens & Murray Advertiser, March 7, 1891 > > Hillsborough State School Picnic > (by Surmisor) > > Of course I went to Hillsborough, and, as a natural sequence, had a good time in that charming city of the hills. One gets into an entirely different atmosphere, both geographically and socially, in that altitude. The various sports, the results of which I append, seemed to please the numerous visitors from Stanley, Yackandandah, and other hamlets in the vicinity. The lady secretary (Miss Madge Kelly) was eminently efficient. The tables were attended to by Misses Folster, McKibbon, Michell, Ralph, McGowan and Waterson: Messrs Stone and Blewitt brewing the tea. Dancing was indulged in up to "wee sma' hoors," in the schoolroom, Mr. Chas. Harridge officiating as M.C., and Mr Thomas Nicholl supplying the music. Messrs Tresize and Michell favored the company with various vocal selections, which were well received. > > A long list of results follows, including the following names: > Clingin, Wilberforce, Mummery, Folster, Johnston, Thomas, Jannon, Priestly, Burns, Buckley, Lee, McGowan, Crawford, Tresize, Waterson, Bigelow, Kinchington, Bruestdt, Stone, Ralph, Mongan. > > The judges were Messrs Clingin, McGowan and Martin, and the handicappers Messrs A. Stone, W. Waterson and R.McGowan. >

Well Brainerd (what an awful name) is my first American in the N/E. Amazing how people keep popping up - even if it is often a long time 'between drinks'! Cheers, Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [HC] Assorted Research Interests > I am always interested in Brainerd Wendy/Ronda and all. > Collecting as much as I can about Americans in the north east - > Thanks > Denise > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wendy" <wendyfensom@optusnet.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 7:55 AM > Subject: Re: [HC] Assorted Research Interests > > > > Hi Ronda, > > > > After enjoying all of the emails in past months about the Hillsborough > > episodes I never linked my Maria - I've never known who her parents were. > > So thanks very much for setting me straight on this one. (Still can't > > find > > her birth on the index under either STONE or NOONAN) but Brainerd and > > 'big' > > Maria didn't marry until 1888 so she was born beforehand. > > > > Richard MILNE was my g-grandfather's brother so I guess 'little' Maria > > must > > have been some sort of a g-aunt... > > > > I tracked Maria and Richard to Boulder WA where in 1905 it seems they had > > twins, a boy (Arthur Herbert) and a girl (Mary Evelyn). The boy died in > > the > > same year but the daughter grew up and married I think. I've not yet > > found > > the deaths of Maria or Richard. > > > > No, I don't have the obit for Brainerd. > > > > Thanks very much, > > Wendy > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ronda Shambrook" <shambrookdr@dcsi.net.au> > > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 11:23 PM > > Subject: Re: [HC] Assorted Research Interests > > > > > >> Hi Wendy, > >> > >> Yes, I do have a little incidental information on the Stone family of > >> Hillsborough ('little' Maria married Richard Milne). > >> > >> Maria's father was Brainerd Heber Stone, an American. Maria's mother was > >> 'big' Maria Stone, and her honestly was called into question by some of > > the > >> other women. Do you already have Brainerd Stone's obituary? He died in > >> 1895 and is buried at Yack. > >> > > >

Hi Denise, "Peculiar Accident" Yarrawonga Mercury, 15/8/1889 On Tuesday afternoon a peculiar accident, entailing the loss of a valuable coach horse, occurred at the lagoon at the foot of Belmore Street. On the arrival of Crawford &Co's Cobram coach, the driver repaired to the lagoon for the purpose of washing the vehicle, and in doing so,drove into one of the deep holes in which the lagoon abounds, with the result that, before a rescue could be effected, one of the pair of horses was lost, the other animal, with difficulty, being rescued by Mr OWENS groom. Made sure the fires didn't get that one didn't he. Cheers Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: Denise <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Koetong Hotel > Oh dear another fire in the stables! > Thanks Chris. I have a few now. > This is the second fire (different stables) to lob on my desktop tonight! > > Denise > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christine" <wildmob@dodo.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 5:30 PM > Subject: [HC] Koetong Hotel > > > > "A destructive fire broke out last Sunday, in the Koetong Hotel, > > formerly occupied by Mr. Osmond, but of which Mr. John Mildren had > > lately become the licensee. Shortly after 2 o'clock on Sun morning, > > flames were observed issuing from the hotel, & in spite of all that > > could be done to quench the conflagration, the building, with its > > contents, was in a very short time, burned to the ground, all but one > > room being consumed. The inmates were unable to save anything so rapid > > was the progress of the fire, and they were only just able to escape > > with little more than the clothes they stood in. > > The horses belonging to Messrs. CRAWFORD AND CONLEY, which were in a > > stable at the back were got out, but were fortunately uninjured. The > > stables were saved. It is not known how the fire originated, but it is > > conjectured that it must have proceeded from a candle left burning in > > one of the bedrooms. General sympathy is expressed for Mr. & Mrs. > > Mildren, who, we understand, were uninsured, and who have thus lost > > heavily by the fire. We believe it is Mr. Mildren's intention to supply > > what accomodation he can for travellers by the coach, in the room left > > standing, until the completion of the new edifice, which we are > > informed is to be erected without delay, on the site of the old hotel." > > > > Reported from - Upper Murray & Mitta Herald - 6.1.1887 > > > > Chris > > > >

Ray, what a find - this is fantastic thank you. The night just gets better! I've lots of information indicating where the coaches went etc. along the Murray westwards - initially right to Echuca, but later only as far as Corowa, but I haven't had a Yarrawonga snippet - and to boot a new staff member! Fancy washing the coaches ! THANK YOU, I'm having a great night. I've just found a missing family - one of Hiram's sisters. Through a letter dated 1886 written by a Pastor in New Hampshire to "Madam" (unknown, but have a good idea who she was) I've managed to locate Hiram's nieces also with the help of the 1880 Census. A letter, a town, two names, and the census gave me what I didn't have these past 6 years. This was the only sibling of Hiram's that I didn't have information for. Yahhooo. Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan" <joanmck@cv.quik.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Koetong Hotel > Hi Denise, > "Peculiar Accident" Yarrawonga Mercury, 15/8/1889 > On Tuesday afternoon a peculiar accident, entailing the loss of a valuable > coach horse, > occurred at the lagoon at the foot of Belmore Street. On the arrival of > Crawford &Co's > Cobram coach, the driver repaired to the lagoon for the purpose of washing > the vehicle, > and in doing so,drove into one of the deep holes in which the lagoon > abounds, with the result that, before a rescue could be effected, one of > the > pair of horses was lost, the > other animal, with difficulty, being rescued by Mr OWENS groom. > > Made sure the fires didn't get that one didn't he. > Cheers Ray > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Denise <denisem@powerup.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 8:54 PM > Subject: Re: [HC] Koetong Hotel > > >> Oh dear another fire in the stables! >> Thanks Chris. I have a few now. >> This is the second fire (different stables) to lob on my desktop tonight! >> >> Denise >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Christine" <wildmob@dodo.com.au> >> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 5:30 PM >> Subject: [HC] Koetong Hotel >> >> >> > "A destructive fire broke out last Sunday, in the Koetong Hotel, >> > formerly occupied by Mr. Osmond, but of which Mr. John Mildren had >> > lately become the licensee. Shortly after 2 o'clock on Sun morning, >> > flames were observed issuing from the hotel, & in spite of all that >> > could be done to quench the conflagration, the building, with its >> > contents, was in a very short time, burned to the ground, all but one >> > room being consumed. The inmates were unable to save anything so rapid >> > was the progress of the fire, and they were only just able to escape >> > with little more than the clothes they stood in. >> > The horses belonging to Messrs. CRAWFORD AND CONLEY, which were in a >> > stable at the back were got out, but were fortunately uninjured. The >> > stables were saved. It is not known how the fire originated, but it is >> > conjectured that it must have proceeded from a candle left burning in >> > one of the bedrooms. General sympathy is expressed for Mr. & Mrs. >> > Mildren, who, we understand, were uninsured, and who have thus lost >> > heavily by the fire. We believe it is Mr. Mildren's intention to supply >> > what accomodation he can for travellers by the coach, in the room left >> > standing, until the completion of the new edifice, which we are >> > informed is to be erected without delay, on the site of the old hotel." >> > >> > Reported from - Upper Murray & Mitta Herald - 6.1.1887 >> > >> > Chris >> > >> >> >

Hi Kerry Not to my knowledge, unless some moved down there that I don't know about Lorraine Calvert rainbear@planet.net.au -----Original Message----- From: Kerry [mailto:kerryb@austarnet.com.au] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 1:16 AM To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HC] no messages Hi Lorraine do your McIntosh's relate to the ones at Harrietville? Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorraine Calvert" <rainbear@planet.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 7:36 PM Subject: RE: [HC] no messages Hi Fellow Listers I also am still here. My names in the NE are BARCLAY (Albury/Granya area), McINTOSH (Yackandandah), JOYNSON (Albury/possibly Granya area), WEBB (Granya) Lorraine Calvert rainbear@planet.net.au - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.792 / Virus Database: 536 - Release Date: 9/11/2004 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.794 / Virus Database: 538 - Release Date: 10/11/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.794 / Virus Database: 538 - Release Date: 10/11/2004

Kerry, thanks it gives me something to dig up. No rush, and please don't spend time doing it, but if you come across something it'd be appreciated. regards Denise Very warm Brisbane. > > Some Americans from the Crooked River near Dargo > > Crooked River > > Harris Samuel born Salem USA married Julia Lucas, in 1882, Children Eunice > Ellen 1868, Osmond 1870, Franklin 1874 all born at Crooked River-Grant. > > > > Yackandandah - Crooked River > > Hubbert Nelson married Mary McKinnon 1857 Children --died 1857 > Yackandandah, > Harriet 1859 Yack, Nelson 1861 Yack, Milo Yack 1864 died age 4, > > The rest were born Crooked River Harvey 1867 Grant, Alonsom 1869, Nancy > 1871, Wlm 1873 > > Harriet had a child at Grant Josephine 1878 father unknown married James > Samson 1891 > > Nancy married Thomas Gardner > > Harvey married Lillian Hibbs > > Adeline married Thomas Gladstone > > Nelson died 1878 age 48 born America. > > > > Smith Oliver and Ellen O'Toole, Thomas 1867 Oliver was from the States and > was the first to Settle at Wonnangatta, They also had a son Harry > > > > Smith, Oliver miner, As it Happens brother Johnathon spur Wongungarra > 1866-1867 > > Hubbert or Hubbard, John miner, Champion reef Wonnangatta reef, > Wongungarra > 1866-1867 > > Hubbert, Mary resident site top of Collingwood spur 1874-1875 > > Hubbert, Nelson miner, sluicing claim Hogtown, Crooked River 1866-1867, > resident site Summerhill road 1874-1875 > > Re the John there was also a John Hubbard that settle in the same area, > I'm > not sure yet if this is a misspelling of Hubbert > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 8:03 AM > Subject: Re: [HC] Assorted Research Interests > > > I am always interested in Brainerd Wendy/Ronda and all. > Collecting as much as I can about Americans in the north east - > Thanks > Denise > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wendy" <wendyfensom@optusnet.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 7:55 AM > Subject: Re: [HC] Assorted Research Interests > > >> Hi Ronda, >> >> After enjoying all of the emails in past months about the Hillsborough >> episodes I never linked my Maria - I've never known who her parents were. >> So thanks very much for setting me straight on this one. (Still can't >> find >> her birth on the index under either STONE or NOONAN) but Brainerd and >> 'big' >> Maria didn't marry until 1888 so she was born beforehand. >> >> Richard MILNE was my g-grandfather's brother so I guess 'little' Maria >> must >> have been some sort of a g-aunt... >> >> I tracked Maria and Richard to Boulder WA where in 1905 it seems they had >> twins, a boy (Arthur Herbert) and a girl (Mary Evelyn). The boy died in >> the >> same year but the daughter grew up and married I think. I've not yet >> found >> the deaths of Maria or Richard. >> >> No, I don't have the obit for Brainerd. >> >> Thanks very much, >> Wendy >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ronda Shambrook" <shambrookdr@dcsi.net.au> >> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 11:23 PM >> Subject: Re: [HC] Assorted Research Interests >> >> >>> Hi Wendy, >>> >>> Yes, I do have a little incidental information on the Stone family of >>> Hillsborough ('little' Maria married Richard Milne). >>> >>> Maria's father was Brainerd Heber Stone, an American. Maria's mother >>> was >>> 'big' Maria Stone, and her honestly was called into question by some of >> the >>> other women. Do you already have Brainerd Stone's obituary? He died in >>> 1895 and is buried at Yack. >>> >> > > >

Chris, do you know if this hotel eventually became the Welcome Hotel? Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine" <wildmob@dodo.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 5:30 PM Subject: [HC] Koetong Hotel > "A destructive fire broke out last Sunday, in the Koetong Hotel, > formerly occupied by Mr. Osmond, but of which Mr. John Mildren had > lately become the licensee. Shortly after 2 o'clock on Sun morning, > flames were observed issuing from the hotel, & in spite of all that > could be done to quench the conflagration, the building, with its > contents, was in a very short time, burned to the ground, all but one > room being consumed. The inmates were unable to save anything so rapid > was the progress of the fire, and they were only just able to escape > with little more than the clothes they stood in. > The horses belonging to Messrs. CRAWFORD AND CONLEY, which were in a > stable at the back were got out, but were fortunately uninjured. The > stables were saved. It is not known how the fire originated, but it is > conjectured that it must have proceeded from a candle left burning in > one of the bedrooms. General sympathy is expressed for Mr. & Mrs. > Mildren, who, we understand, were uninsured, and who have thus lost > heavily by the fire. We believe it is Mr. Mildren's intention to supply > what accomodation he can for travellers by the coach, in the room left > standing, until the completion of the new edifice, which we are > informed is to be erected without delay, on the site of the old hotel." > > Reported from - Upper Murray & Mitta Herald - 6.1.1887 > > Chris >

Oh dear another fire in the stables! Thanks Chris. I have a few now. This is the second fire (different stables) to lob on my desktop tonight! Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine" <wildmob@dodo.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 5:30 PM Subject: [HC] Koetong Hotel > "A destructive fire broke out last Sunday, in the Koetong Hotel, > formerly occupied by Mr. Osmond, but of which Mr. John Mildren had > lately become the licensee. Shortly after 2 o'clock on Sun morning, > flames were observed issuing from the hotel, & in spite of all that > could be done to quench the conflagration, the building, with its > contents, was in a very short time, burned to the ground, all but one > room being consumed. The inmates were unable to save anything so rapid > was the progress of the fire, and they were only just able to escape > with little more than the clothes they stood in. > The horses belonging to Messrs. CRAWFORD AND CONLEY, which were in a > stable at the back were got out, but were fortunately uninjured. The > stables were saved. It is not known how the fire originated, but it is > conjectured that it must have proceeded from a candle left burning in > one of the bedrooms. General sympathy is expressed for Mr. & Mrs. > Mildren, who, we understand, were uninsured, and who have thus lost > heavily by the fire. We believe it is Mr. Mildren's intention to supply > what accomodation he can for travellers by the coach, in the room left > standing, until the completion of the new edifice, which we are > informed is to be erected without delay, on the site of the old hotel." > > Reported from - Upper Murray & Mitta Herald - 6.1.1887 > > Chris >

"A destructive fire broke out last Sunday, in the Koetong Hotel, formerly occupied by Mr. Osmond, but of which Mr. John Mildren had lately become the licensee. Shortly after 2 o'clock on Sun morning, flames were observed issuing from the hotel, & in spite of all that could be done to quench the conflagration, the building, with its contents, was in a very short time, burned to the ground, all but one room being consumed. The inmates were unable to save anything so rapid was the progress of the fire, and they were only just able to escape with little more than the clothes they stood in. The horses belonging to Messrs. CRAWFORD AND CONLEY, which were in a stable at the back were got out, but were fortunately uninjured. The stables were saved. It is not known how the fire originated, but it is conjectured that it must have proceeded from a candle left burning in one of the bedrooms. General sympathy is expressed for Mr. & Mrs. Mildren, who, we understand, were uninsured, and who have thus lost heavily by the fire. We believe it is Mr. Mildren's intention to supply what accomodation he can for travellers by the coach, in the room left standing, until the completion of the new edifice, which we are informed is to be erected without delay, on the site of the old hotel." Reported from - Upper Murray & Mitta Herald - 6.1.1887 Chris

Interesting thanks for that Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 9:16 AM Subject: [HC] Otago Have a book written by an American who once worked in Beechworth and then brought his travelling show thru the town. He came to Aust mining, took on other jobs and at one point went over to what he called "the middle Island of New Zealand". Gold was found by Gabriel Read at Tuapeka Otago Province in May 1861. He speaks of Otago, Gabriel's Gully, Golden Age Hotel with old Victorian Harry Richmond who left Aust after going thru the Insolvent Court Victoria. The fields weren't according to the author at all successful, not even one in ten had their expectations realized. Names - Charles Carlos Cole and Henry Hoyt - formed Cole Hoyt & Co. (coaches) - both Americans from Victoria. The author then left for Arrow river 50 miles from Dunstan. Not much for you, but just in case the names crop up in the tree - Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry" <kerryb@austarnet.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [HC] no messages > Hi Wendy > > In about 1861 the word was out on the Otago gold rush had started in May. > And Cobb & Co had started a coach service between Dunedin and Gabriel's > Gully (Otago Goldfield). Although the Herald January 28th 1862 stated > that; > 'A batch of New Zealand diggers returned to Gipps Land last week and > reported they can do better at the Crooked river, than at Gabriel's Gully > or > at any of the diggings in that neighbourhood' > > I know a lot left Crooked River for this rush, not sure if many also went > from Beechworth, I have found ones from Castlemaine also leaving for > N.Zealand. > > Kerry > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wendy" <wendyfensom@optusnet.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 8:39 PM > Subject: Re: [HC] no messages > > > Hi Kerry, > Can you please tell me the date of the Otago gold rush? Some of my lot > went > to NZ - but I've never known why. Baaaaaaaa. > > Regards, > Wendy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kerry" <kerryb@austarnet.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:25 PM > Subject: Re: [HC] no messages > > >> Hi Denise, Bev, Zola, Ray and everyone that I have missed >> >> I have days where I can contribute and others where its head down > and ---up >> working on putting all this gobbley gook together. >> >> I will try and explain what I'm up too, I am putting together a book that > is >> about a group of Irish from Limerick, parishes being Glin and >> Shannagolden >> they were sent to Botany Bay in 1839 and were the first assisted > passengers >> (others being convicts) They were given hell in Botany Bay as the > squatters >> saw then as the beginning of ridding Ireland of is paupers at the > squatters >> expense. Only three of this group remained in Sydney. The others headed > and >> settled in areas like the Tumut, Manaro, Yass, Yackandandah, and >> Pakenham.(Gipplands before it had a road 1841) Their main purpose was to >> work and bring out family members and then they bought out family, so >> they >> started like a pyramid which criss-crosses the High Country. And they > stayed >> very much as a cohesive group. There are also letters that they have > written >> back to Ireland sending money etc.. Some of the names are: >> Healy, Dempsy, Nash, Nolan, Sheehy, Sheahan, O'Connor, O'Brian, Costello, >> Culhane, Enright, Kennelly, Hayes, Griffin, Gallagher, Danahar, McNamara, >> O'Connell, Connelly, Donnelly, Shanahan, Fitzgerald. (very Limerick >> names) >> >> For example: The Yackandandah family were the James O'Conor (connor) from >> Loughill near Glin parish and his wife Johanna Welch, with their four >> children they set off from Botany Bay with a dray and made it to Tumut > where >> he was employed. In 1841 he is squatting at Gooquek Flat, then 1849 > appears >> in Kiewa Valley. Then in 1853 he is leasing Murramurranbong station near >> Yackandandah. Then he is found in Beechworth. His son built the Junction >> Hotel (later Blazing Stump) near Wodonga. Their descendants are still > around >> the North East today. >> >> So why I have put all this here is because from time to time I will need >> support from anyone that has connections with these names. For example > Zola >> some of their descendants took off to New Zealand during the Goldrush in >> Otago. Are you able to access mining registers over there around Pipers >> Flat, I'm looking for John Culhane and wife Ellen nee O'Connor (1868) he >> returned and settled at Briagolong and James Enright and Bridget >> (nee)Hastings, I think he died over there or Bathurst (1872). He had a >> pub >> at Grant near Dargo. >> >> >> Kerry >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Zola Ortenburg" <zolaortenburg@bigpond.com> >> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:33 AM >> Subject: Re: [HC] no messages >> >> >> Hello Bev and other interested members, >> I am also here and thought the list had gone quiet due to a member >> complaining about the chat that was not necessarily on family history. >> In >> my opinion part of this wonderful list was (is) the companionship and >> helpfulness of the list, everyone appears to encourage when one's > searching >> begins to appear nigh on impossible. >> Keep up the good work everyone. >> Zola >> Researching : Pearce (Pierce), Barter, Beach (Betsch) Mahoney, Hart, >> Woolner, all in the high country area, plus the following Henderson, >> Mack, >> Addison, Freeman, Gracie, Nielson. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bev Walker" <bbwalker@vic.chariot.net.au> >> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:11 AM >> Subject: RE: [HC] no messages >> >> >> > Hi Denise, >> > I too am here, most of the time, plugging away at breaking >> > down all the brick walls my ancestors appear to have built >> > around themselves. They must have had a lot to hide. >> > >> > The Americans are the easiest for me, the history has been >> > well documented in America but once they came here it has >> > been harder to find. >> > >> > Most of my rellies were in the High Country around Omeo >> > and involved in farming and goldmining. They were >> > Sloan, Walter. Born USA. >> > Forsyth, Helen, borm Scotland, married the above Walter. >> > Many of the Forsyths were in the gold business and some >> > were lucky. >> > Forsyths were also prominent in Bright and all around that >> > area. There is another branch of the Sloan family who were >> > pioneers in that area, Isaac Sloan. >> > >> > So anything about Sloan, Forsyth families and their activities >> > are of particular interest to me. >> > >> > I have just found, for the information of Sloan's on the list, >> > the place where Grant Sloan died in South Africa in 1909. Thanks >> > to Max Dyer, and his constant search for historical events, that >> > I now have this info and hopefully follow it through to get a >> > death certificate, and burial place. I have a lovely photo of his >> > grave but there is not shred of evidence to suggest where it is. >> > My dream would be realized if that >> > were possible. ANY HELP with the difficult South Africa records >> > would be most helpful. >> > >> > I too miss the friendly chat and banter on the List, also the >> > information and the generosity of the Listers. It was always >> > nice to get up and see a long list of emails waiting to be read. >> > We all have other business to attend to and it is not so easy >> > to make the time stretch to get everything in now days. I am >> > sure that my advancing years also hold me back!!!!! >> > Best wishes to all, Bev. >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] >> > Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2004 12:29 AM >> > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com >> > Subject: Re: [HC] no messages >> > >> > >> > Richard - the list has been so quiet these past months, I wonder if any > of >> > the regulars are still members. I've heard of Wendy, Lyn, Ronda, Chris, >> > Peter, where is everyone else? With over 200 members as Di says, >> > what >> > happened to the other 190? Why not have a roll call and see how many >> > listers >> > are actually interested in connecting with others? What or who are you >> > researching Robert? >> > >> > My interests in the northeast are the names I posted last week, plus > from >> > the 1800s >> > Carboor Cheese Factory about which I know very very little >> > Carboor Hotel (Forest Park Hotel) >> > Coaching industry in the northeast and southern NSW >> > Mining >> > Wooragee, Everton, Beechworth, Woolshed, Chiltern >> > and the Upper Murray area. >> > >> > I am also interested in learning about Americans in the northeast - >> > the >> > way >> > my research has taken me I now wouldn't be surprised to find family > other >> > than Hiram, from America, in the area. >> > >> > Who else is game to list their interests. >> > Denise >> > >> > --- >> > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >> > Version: 6.0.784 / Virus Database: 530 - Release Date: 27/10/2004 >> > >> > --- >> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >> > Version: 6.0.784 / Virus Database: 530 - Release Date: 27/10/2004 >> > >> > >> >> >> > > >

Hi Denise It may take me some time to sort through all these, but here's some to begin with will add as I come across them Kerry Some Americans from the Crooked River near Dargo Crooked River Harris Samuel born Salem USA married Julia Lucas, in 1882, Children Eunice Ellen 1868, Osmond 1870, Franklin 1874 all born at Crooked River-Grant. Yackandandah - Crooked River Hubbert Nelson married Mary McKinnon 1857 Children --died 1857 Yackandandah, Harriet 1859 Yack, Nelson 1861 Yack, Milo Yack 1864 died age 4, The rest were born Crooked River Harvey 1867 Grant, Alonsom 1869, Nancy 1871, Wlm 1873 Harriet had a child at Grant Josephine 1878 father unknown married James Samson 1891 Nancy married Thomas Gardner Harvey married Lillian Hibbs Adeline married Thomas Gladstone Nelson died 1878 age 48 born America. Smith Oliver and Ellen O'Toole, Thomas 1867 Oliver was from the States and was the first to Settle at Wonnangatta, They also had a son Harry Smith, Oliver miner, As it Happens brother Johnathon spur Wongungarra 1866-1867 Hubbert or Hubbard, John miner, Champion reef Wonnangatta reef, Wongungarra 1866-1867 Hubbert, Mary resident site top of Collingwood spur 1874-1875 Hubbert, Nelson miner, sluicing claim Hogtown, Crooked River 1866-1867, resident site Summerhill road 1874-1875 Re the John there was also a John Hubbard that settle in the same area, I'm not sure yet if this is a misspelling of Hubbert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [HC] Assorted Research Interests I am always interested in Brainerd Wendy/Ronda and all. Collecting as much as I can about Americans in the north east - Thanks Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy" <wendyfensom@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [HC] Assorted Research Interests > Hi Ronda, > > After enjoying all of the emails in past months about the Hillsborough > episodes I never linked my Maria - I've never known who her parents were. > So thanks very much for setting me straight on this one. (Still can't > find > her birth on the index under either STONE or NOONAN) but Brainerd and > 'big' > Maria didn't marry until 1888 so she was born beforehand. > > Richard MILNE was my g-grandfather's brother so I guess 'little' Maria > must > have been some sort of a g-aunt... > > I tracked Maria and Richard to Boulder WA where in 1905 it seems they had > twins, a boy (Arthur Herbert) and a girl (Mary Evelyn). The boy died in > the > same year but the daughter grew up and married I think. I've not yet > found > the deaths of Maria or Richard. > > No, I don't have the obit for Brainerd. > > Thanks very much, > Wendy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ronda Shambrook" <shambrookdr@dcsi.net.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 11:23 PM > Subject: Re: [HC] Assorted Research Interests > > >> Hi Wendy, >> >> Yes, I do have a little incidental information on the Stone family of >> Hillsborough ('little' Maria married Richard Milne). >> >> Maria's father was Brainerd Heber Stone, an American. Maria's mother was >> 'big' Maria Stone, and her honestly was called into question by some of > the >> other women. Do you already have Brainerd Stone's obituary? He died in >> 1895 and is buried at Yack. >> >

Hi Jenny, Yes, everyone would like me to list those hostages, but for the time being I will keep them to myself. It has taken me over two years of hard work to find their names. James Reardon was the one who counted 62 hostages but the question is who did he count? Did he count the 25 odd children, the two babies in arms or just the boys and men. One of those I am having a hard time finding any information on is one in my own family, Catherine Curnow, the sister of Thomas Curnow and the owner of the red llama scarf. Catherine went to Tasmania and married a man by the name of John Trudgeon in 1882 then had a family of six children. I have found one descendant but no one seems to know anything of Catherine. I would also like to find something more on John Stanistreet and his family. I am also interested in everyones thoughts and views or anyone who is a descendant of anyone involved in the siege I would love to talk to you. Regards Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: <JnnyB@aol.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [HC] Ned Kelly's hostages > Hi Judy, > > That sounds really interesting. I know it's a lot, but can you list them all, or even just the ones you're most interested in? I'm sure you'll start some intersting conversations! > > -- > best wishes, > > Jenny Coates > > ______________________________