Thats great Denise Its the same Ellen that worked for THE COMPANY :-) I haven't researched here yet can't seem to get out of Crooked River/Dargo at the moment. What I have been doing is finding where all the Diggers came from, what groups they formed (usually they were brothers or in-laws etc) and where they ended up settling, I can nearly safely say that at least 80% of the High Country people (Bogong, Harrietville, Dargo, Omeo, Benambra etc..) came from the Crooked River Diggings, some came via Beechworth, some Buckland others Bendigo. There is a group of Americans that have come from Yackandandah Beechworth area and were nearly the first on the diggings except for the Omeo Benambra mob, They even called their reef The New American Reef. Also I found another from the States but not sure if its him or his wife from the US, his name is Samuel Riley married to Jane Huges, they travelled over from Osborne Flat with the Nelson Hubbert and Mary McKinnon party. It would be interesting to find out about the Smith family and if they were related to Oliver Smith. The other Smiths I have, have come from Gipps and Melb Although I hate researching the name Smith, I feel sorry for anyone that has this as their surname re genealogy. Is anyone doing Tallangatta area, I am after would appreciate anything on the Kirks of this area. Some info Edward Kirk born Kilkenny Ireland, arrived Williamstown May 1872 where he went to join his sister Mary at Crooked river, and his sister Catherine at Dargo Flat. After spending seven years at the diggings he was very successful. Then went to Maffra where he bought 320 acres, rented 3000 acres and became a registered grazier. In 1883 he married Mary Ann O'Sullivan, then sold the 3000 acres in 1887 and bought a hotel and 1000 acres at Bullwah near Tallangatta, while still owning the 320 acres near Maffra Sale. Thanks Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 11:28 PM Subject: [HC] KERRY Kerry - Re John Smith of Chiltern - his widow married an Ellen. Have you done any research into the Smiths of Chiltern. I am wondering if Oscar Smith was related to John? Both from USA , both settled in Chiltern. do you have anything? regards Denise

Letter from Alb Hayes (probably originally from Back Creek/Bruarong area) to Alice Blewett nee Waterson after the death of William Blewett in July 1930. 20 Purger St Richmond Dear Mrs Bluett & Family Accept my sincere sympathy in your sad breavement. Although we know those who have gone to their well deserved rest are much bettr off than we are the misery of loss seems dreadfull, until good old Father time makes it easier for us to bear. With love to you all I remain your old friend Alb Hayes

Hi Wendy, Sorry I have no more information, must try and find some time to chase things up all the best Hec -----Original Message----- From: Wendy [mailto:wendyfensom@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Friday, 12 November 2004 9:23 PM To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HC] Hec is still here Hi Hec, Great to hear from you - it's nice to know you are still lurking around the HC list! You are still one of my heroes after all the effort you put in to help restore Robert MILNE's grave. Have you even had a look at the Edward MILNE/Ellen ALCOCK family? Do you think there was some terrible genetic problem - why didn't any of them marry????? Mind you, I don't know about Robert born 1872 in Myrtleford as I can't find any marriage or death record for him. Can you assist please? Cheers and kind regards, Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hec Alcock" <heca@iprimus.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 7:35 PM Subject: [HC] Hec is still here > Hi Wendy, Denise and all, > Am still here, we took off for a few weeks to spend paddling on the Murray, > then a funny thing happened, A Company asked me to work for the, seemed > like, (and is fun). So I am not here all the time as I do a bit of travel. > > Still check all the messages in the hope of finding more Alcock, Fraser, > Norden, Ramsay oldies > > Still chuckle over the circus > > Cheers > > Hec Alcock > > See the Alcock Family History at http://home.iprimus.com.au/heca/ > > >

Ronda, Thanks for this one - and also for Amelia. I can't believe I missed the STONE references when you were emailing all of the letters about the school problems previously - but I'm sure glad I've caught up now! Cheers, Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronda Shambrook" <shambrookdr@dcsi.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 1:14 PM Subject: [HC] B.H.Stone obit - OMA > >From the Ovens & Murray Advertiser > > > > STONE - On the 24th inst., at his residence Hillsborough, after a long and > painful illness, Brainard Heber Stone, aged 68 years. A colonist of 43 > years. > > ONE MORE TO THE MAJORITY > > Death have removed another of those who have been so long connected with the > district as to have become recognised as part and parcel of it. After a > lengthened illness of a more or less severe character which has extended > over several years, MR Brainard Stone, of Hillsborough, passed peacefully > away on Sunday last in the presence of is wife and family. Mr. Stone was > amongst the earliest of those who found their way to the Ovens diggings when > mining was in it preliminary stages, and after working on Spring Creek and > the 9 Mile, he made his way to Yackandandah, and was amongst the very first > to prove that gold was to be found there. Some years ago impelled by the > old enterprising spirit, he removed to Hillsborough and settled there with > his wife and family. Latterly he has suffered from a severe affection of > the ear and head and tis eventually led to his death. Whilst resident in > the neighborhood of Beechworth Mr Stone was one of the first to join the > Oddfellows Lodge upon its establishment and he never severed his connected > with it. He was a full benefit member at the time of his death and during > his long and painful illness he had a very convincing proof of the > advantages to be derived from his membership. The funeral took place on > Monday and many of his brethren of the Beechworth Lodge regretted > exceedingly that they did not hear of the event till it was too late for > them to show by their attendance that they respected the deceased and deeply > sympathised with his wife and family. If notice had been given many of the > members of the Local Beechworth Lodge would have followed the remains of > their deceased brother to the grave. >

Sorry Val - none of those names fit it with mine. Regards, Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Val Wallace" <walhay@optushome.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 9:00 AM Subject: [HC] O'Brien > Hi Wendy, > Does your O'Brien family include Jeffery and Ellen (O'Dea) and Julia who > married Thomas Farrelly? > > Val >

Dawn, Sounds like you may have to ask your ISP for the password - they should be able to assist. Sounds like all of us H/C listers suffer from the same spam.....I also tried mailwasher..... some people like it but I didn't. Good luck, Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawn Webb" <dawnwebb@optushome.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 10:45 PM Subject: RE: [HC] Re Junk Mail > I get stacks of spam. Mostly offering cheap medecine or a wonderful > sexual experience or a larger penis... But occasionally one of the > financial or bank scams pops up. I just delete it all as soon as I see > it. It seems quite easy to pick it! Just tried the mailwasher site - I > am not willing to pay, at lest not at this stage. I will have to > contact my ISP about their version of it but first - what IS that pesky > password I need to use to get into the ISP site? > > Dawn > > -----Original Message----- > From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] > Sent: Sunday, 14 November 2004 10:52 AM > To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HC] Re Junk Mail > > > Bev - I have three email addresses. I get hundreds of spam per day, it > is > pest, but not much to do about it,, except changing email addresses - > but > this only works until you have used your new one on the net for a while. > > However, if changing your email address you lose the chance of someone > finding you if you have left a message somewhere eg the archives of this > > list. I have an old one - must be 5 years old and it has only spam on > it. > However, once every couple of months I find a letter from someone, and > most > of these have been so great a new family, new cousin, new connection, I > can't possibly cancel this address. > I have one which gets no spam - that is my Google mail address. I am > always getting the opportunity to invite 6 friends to gmail - let me > know > OFF LIST if you want a free email address. It's a new concept, but > pretty > good. > regards > Denise > > >

From the Ovens & Murray Advertiser STONE - On the 24th inst., at his residence Hillsborough, after a long and painful illness, Brainard Heber Stone, aged 68 years. A colonist of 43 years. ONE MORE TO THE MAJORITY Death have removed another of those who have been so long connected with the district as to have become recognised as part and parcel of it. After a lengthened illness of a more or less severe character which has extended over several years, MR Brainard Stone, of Hillsborough, passed peacefully away on Sunday last in the presence of is wife and family. Mr. Stone was amongst the earliest of those who found their way to the Ovens diggings when mining was in it preliminary stages, and after working on Spring Creek and the 9 Mile, he made his way to Yackandandah, and was amongst the very first to prove that gold was to be found there. Some years ago impelled by the old enterprising spirit, he removed to Hillsborough and settled there with his wife and family. Latterly he has suffered from a severe affection of the ear and head and tis eventually led to his death. Whilst resident in the neighborhood of Beechworth Mr Stone was one of the first to join the Oddfellows Lodge upon its establishment and he never severed his connected with it. He was a full benefit member at the time of his death and during his long and painful illness he had a very convincing proof of the advantages to be derived from his membership. The funeral took place on Monday and many of his brethren of the Beechworth Lodge regretted exceedingly that they did not hear of the event till it was too late for them to show by their attendance that they respected the deceased and deeply sympathised with his wife and family. If notice had been given many of the members of the Local Beechworth Lodge would have followed the remains of their deceased brother to the grave.

Wendy, Amelia Stone (sister of Maria) gets a mention in this one. Mrs Anderson's letter is to the inspector, Mr. Rix. Mr Jamieson taught at Hillsborough before Mrs. Anderson. Ronda Hillsborough 889 May 18th 1885 H.Rix Esq Sir, I beg to state that in accordance with my promise I forward an Exercise book which you may or may not have seen at the Show and I regret that the other, E.Knight's has been lost in Beechworth somewhere. However sincerely read you this, to prove that I must have been at some little trouble with this boy, J.Ralph who is now being sent to the Stanley School and you know whether or not they have better exercises there for children 12 years old. I also enclose extracts from two of Mr Jamieson's letters although I suppose my case has quite been disposed of, ere this, but it will convince you that, during the short time he was here, only 3 months, he was so annoyed by the parents that he said he feared they would bring some very serious charge against him and swear black and white that is, as they have done with me - I have only received a reply from one of the girls I had last year, but, believe Amelia Stone will really write the truth if she gets my letter before one from home - I presume I need not get a statement from Louisa Braidwood as she was only with me from the Holidays till the end of February in this year, when her father needed her at Deaderang and according to the e! vidence (which by the way I believe likelous enough) all the trouble was either last year when I had women for servants, and since Easter when Violet has been at Castlemaine. Mr Jamieson had a way of calling them -- 'Paulina' means Mrs Paul and 'The Workmistress' means Mr. T.Michell, because he boasts of his abilities in Needlework, washing, baking and in short he is THE HILLSBOROUGH KING. My little Violet was born at the Goldie School in March 1882 which can very easily be proved if you doubt it by referring to the school rolls where as in this case the school was closed. I have the honor to be Sir Your obedient servant E.Anderson P.S. I only got the exercise book back today. Mapping had not been taught here until I came.

Hi Ronda, I sadly can't add any further information for Edward Kelly, unfortunately he's a little bit of a mystery at present and I am not certain where or when he passed away. In regards to the timeline of the Bigelow's: 1852 - 1853: Nine Mile Creek (Stanley) 1853 - 1854: Yackandandah 1855 - 1865: Osborne's Flat 1865 - 1867: Hillsborough 1867- 1872: Sutton/Bruarong 1872 - 1905: Stanley 1905 - 1912: Bright Regards, Anthony >From: "Ronda Shambrook" <shambrookdr@dcsi.net.au> >Reply-To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com >To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [HC] Edward Kelly Hillsborough >Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 19:29:12 +1100 > >Anthony, > >Yes, I've seen the name Edward Kelly in relation to Hillsborough many times >also. It seems as if he was a single chap - doesn't seem to rate a mention >in any of the school dramas. >In 1891, just before Margaret Waterson came to teach at Hillsborough there >was a school teacher by the name of Margaret Kelly. Maybe she was a >relation? > >Do you know anything about him apart from the fact he took out lots of >mining leases? > >Also, can you please give me a rough timeframe of the whereabouts of the >Bigelows. I know they were at Sutton, Stanley and Bright, but don't know >the timeframe. > >Ronda > _________________________________________________________________ Searching for that dream home? Try http://ninemsn.realestate.com.au for all your property needs.

Judy - thank you for the information. All bits help the big picture that is for sure. It's amazing really, I haven't added anything to C and C's history for ages and just lately more has been coming in from various sources. I'll probably ring your DH's uncle. I could keep on with this indefinitely but I retire in eight more working days (yaaaa) and I intend to get it all printed and finished and go on with the other umpteen projects on the go. However that doesn't mean I'm not interested any more, for I shall keep on collecting Crawford info, as I find it. regards Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "judy coates" <judy.coates@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Koetong Hotel > Denise I donn't know if I told you but the old coack change over station > hous is still at yarrawonga my husbands grandmother use to live in it It > is > now owned byy Joe Crothers DH's uncle I don't think anyone lives in it but > I've been told the people travelling on the coach use to stay over night > in > the house I have never actull been in side the house as the Kitchen and > eating area are in a seperate building. It is right on the lake at > Yarrawonga right next to Crothers Cordial factory.Joe still runs the > factory > with his brother Jim and they may be able to help you a bit . > Cheers, > Judy Coates > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 10:32 PM > Subject: Re: [HC] Koetong Hotel > > >> Ray, what a find - this is fantastic thank you. The night just gets > better! >> >> I've lots of information indicating where the coaches went etc. along the >> Murray westwards - initially right to Echuca, but later only as far as >> Corowa, but I haven't had a Yarrawonga snippet - and to boot a new staff >> member! >> Fancy washing the coaches ! >> >> THANK YOU, >> >> I'm having a great night. I've just found a missing family - one of > Hiram's >> sisters. Through a letter dated 1886 written by a Pastor in New >> Hampshire >> to "Madam" (unknown, but have a good idea who she was) I've managed to >> locate Hiram's nieces also with the help of the 1880 Census. A letter, >> a >> town, two names, and the census gave me what I didn't have these past 6 >> years. This was the only sibling of Hiram's that I didn't have > information >> for. Yahhooo. >> >> Denise >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Joan" <joanmck@cv.quik.com.au> >> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 9:19 PM >> Subject: Re: [HC] Koetong Hotel >> >> >> > Hi Denise, >> > "Peculiar Accident" Yarrawonga Mercury, 15/8/1889 >> > On Tuesday afternoon a peculiar accident, entailing the loss of a > valuable >> > coach horse, >> > occurred at the lagoon at the foot of Belmore Street. On the arrival of >> > Crawford &Co's >> > Cobram coach, the driver repaired to the lagoon for the purpose of > washing >> > the vehicle, >> > and in doing so,drove into one of the deep holes in which the lagoon >> > abounds, with the result that, before a rescue could be effected, one >> > of >> > the >> > pair of horses was lost, the >> > other animal, with difficulty, being rescued by Mr OWENS groom. >> > >> > Made sure the fires didn't get that one didn't he. >> > Cheers Ray >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Denise <denisem@powerup.com.au> >> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 8:54 PM >> > Subject: Re: [HC] Koetong Hotel >> > >> > >> >> Oh dear another fire in the stables! >> >> Thanks Chris. I have a few now. >> >> This is the second fire (different stables) to lob on my desktop > tonight! >> >> >> >> Denise >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Christine" <wildmob@dodo.com.au> >> >> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> >> >> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 5:30 PM >> >> Subject: [HC] Koetong Hotel >> >> >> >> >> >> > "A destructive fire broke out last Sunday, in the Koetong Hotel, >> >> > formerly occupied by Mr. Osmond, but of which Mr. John Mildren had >> >> > lately become the licensee. Shortly after 2 o'clock on Sun morning, >> >> > flames were observed issuing from the hotel, & in spite of all that >> >> > could be done to quench the conflagration, the building, with its >> >> > contents, was in a very short time, burned to the ground, all but >> >> > one >> >> > room being consumed. The inmates were unable to save anything so > rapid >> >> > was the progress of the fire, and they were only just able to escape >> >> > with little more than the clothes they stood in. >> >> > The horses belonging to Messrs. CRAWFORD AND CONLEY, which were in a >> >> > stable at the back were got out, but were fortunately uninjured. The >> >> > stables were saved. It is not known how the fire originated, but it > is >> >> > conjectured that it must have proceeded from a candle left burning >> >> > in >> >> > one of the bedrooms. General sympathy is expressed for Mr. & Mrs. >> >> > Mildren, who, we understand, were uninsured, and who have thus lost >> >> > heavily by the fire. We believe it is Mr. Mildren's intention to > supply >> >> > what accomodation he can for travellers by the coach, in the room > left >> >> > standing, until the completion of the new edifice, which we are >> >> > informed is to be erected without delay, on the site of the old > hotel." >> >> > >> >> > Reported from - Upper Murray & Mitta Herald - 6.1.1887 >> >> > >> >> > Chris >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >

Kerry - Re John Smith of Chiltern - his widow married an Ellen. Have you done any research into the Smiths of Chiltern. I am wondering if Oscar Smith was related to John? Both from USA , both settled in Chiltern. do you have anything? regards Denise

I get stacks of spam. Mostly offering cheap medecine or a wonderful sexual experience or a larger penis... But occasionally one of the financial or bank scams pops up. I just delete it all as soon as I see it. It seems quite easy to pick it! Just tried the mailwasher site - I am not willing to pay, at lest not at this stage. I will have to contact my ISP about their version of it but first - what IS that pesky password I need to use to get into the ISP site? Dawn -----Original Message----- From: Denise [mailto:denisem@powerup.com.au] Sent: Sunday, 14 November 2004 10:52 AM To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HC] Re Junk Mail Bev - I have three email addresses. I get hundreds of spam per day, it is pest, but not much to do about it,, except changing email addresses - but this only works until you have used your new one on the net for a while. However, if changing your email address you lose the chance of someone finding you if you have left a message somewhere eg the archives of this list. I have an old one - must be 5 years old and it has only spam on it. However, once every couple of months I find a letter from someone, and most of these have been so great a new family, new cousin, new connection, I can't possibly cancel this address. I have one which gets no spam - that is my Google mail address. I am always getting the opportunity to invite 6 friends to gmail - let me know OFF LIST if you want a free email address. It's a new concept, but pretty good. regards Denise

Good evening list Hoping someone has heard of Augustus Brainard (not our previous Brainerd I feel). Was a miner on Woorajay Ck. Denise

Thankyou Kerry, I look forward to hearing from you re Forsyth. Regards, Bev -----Original Message----- From: Kerry Bennett [mailto:kben1679@bigpond.net.au] Sent: Friday, 12 November 2004 11:27 PM To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HC] RE.Forsyth Hello Bev, have one Forsyth who married into the Witham family ,they are from Omeo but at the moment l can't seem to find as soon as l do will send you the information. Kerry in Cranbourne --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.784 / Virus Database: 530 - Release Date: 27/10/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.795 / Virus Database: 539 - Release Date: 12/11/2004

Hi Irene, Thanks, it is a nuisance isn't it, I just wondered about all this money stuff. It is obviously such a scam but they keep it up. Irene, was it you who told me that you used to run the Elphinstone Pub. If it was do you mind telling me what the years were and your name. I am still researching the hotels in Elp. and I have quite a few names for the Commercial Hotel now the Elphinstone. I was down there a couple of months ago and it is all changed, they have opened up a room in the front of the pub which has an open fireplace and just the raw brick walls, with plenty of cracks. We had some really fun times there over the years, mainly after cricket each Sat. Thankyou Irene, Bev -----Original Message----- From: Irene R [mailto:ivrbjr@bigpond.net.au] Sent: Sunday, 14 November 2004 4:44 PM To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HC] Re Junk Mail Hi Bev Yes, I get heaps of it - maybe two or three a day Regards Irene R -------Original Message------- From: Bev Walker Date: 11/14/04 09:24:29 To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HC] Re Junk Mail Goodmorning All. Just turned on the PC and once again there is the email, from the Ivory Coast this time, wanting me to take money etc. Obviously all a scam, but I wonder do any of you get it as well. It is a nuisance which will be disposed of right now, but I am curious as to whether others have the same problem. Thanks. Bev --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.795 / Virus Database: 539 - Release Date: 12/11/2004 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.795 / Virus Database: 539 - Release Date: 12/11/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.795 / Virus Database: 539 - Release Date: 12/11/2004

Yes that's correct Chris, at Koetong. Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine" <wildmob@dodo.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 4:50 PM Subject: [HC] Re: Koetong Hotel > > Denise > > I assume the report actually relates to the Welcome Hotel at Koetong as > in December 1886 the license was transfered from William Osmond to John > Mildren. > > By 1895 is was reported that five hotels were on the road b/w Corryong > - Tallangatta. > > In 1897 we had - > Wabba Hotel (Wabba) - Jane Marsden > Welcome Hotel (Koetong) - Herman Gereke > Koetong Hotel (Koetong) - Louisa Peacock > Cambourne Hotel (Koetong) - Honora Shelley > Travellers Rest Hotel (Bullioh) - Christina McKay. > > By 1900 we still had the same 5 hotels, the only change, Helena > O'Donuhoe now held the reins at the Koetong Hotel. > > Since there were 3 hotels at 'Koetong', & not sure of their locations > (other then it would be logical to assume Cambourne may have been > nearer to, or at present day Shelley) - I am unsure whether the present > Koetong Hotel would have been Welcome or Koetong - or either. > However - can recommend the food & the lemon squashes........& the > pleasant atmosphere. > > Chris > > Chris, do you know if this hotel eventually became the Welcome Hotel? > Denise > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christine" <wildmob@dodo.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 5:30 PM > Subject: [HC] Koetong Hotel > > > > "A destructive fire broke out last Sunday, in the Koetong Hotel, > > formerly occupied by Mr. Osmond, but of which Mr. John Mildren had > > lately become the licensee. >

Denise I assume the report actually relates to the Welcome Hotel at Koetong as in December 1886 the license was transfered from William Osmond to John Mildren. By 1895 is was reported that five hotels were on the road b/w Corryong - Tallangatta. In 1897 we had - Wabba Hotel (Wabba) - Jane Marsden Welcome Hotel (Koetong) - Herman Gereke Koetong Hotel (Koetong) - Louisa Peacock Cambourne Hotel (Koetong) - Honora Shelley Travellers Rest Hotel (Bullioh) - Christina McKay. By 1900 we still had the same 5 hotels, the only change, Helena O'Donuhoe now held the reins at the Koetong Hotel. Since there were 3 hotels at 'Koetong', & not sure of their locations (other then it would be logical to assume Cambourne may have been nearer to, or at present day Shelley) - I am unsure whether the present Koetong Hotel would have been Welcome or Koetong - or either. However - can recommend the food & the lemon squashes........& the pleasant atmosphere. Chris Chris, do you know if this hotel eventually became the Welcome Hotel? Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine" <wildmob@dodo.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 5:30 PM Subject: [HC] Koetong Hotel > "A destructive fire broke out last Sunday, in the Koetong Hotel, > formerly occupied by Mr. Osmond, but of which Mr. John Mildren had > lately become the licensee.

Hi Bev Yes, I get heaps of it - maybe two or three a day Regards Irene R -------Original Message------- From: Bev Walker Date: 11/14/04 09:24:29 To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HC] Re Junk Mail Goodmorning All. Just turned on the PC and once again there is the email, from the Ivory Coast this time, wanting me to take money etc. Obviously all a scam, but I wonder do any of you get it as well. It is a nuisance which will be disposed of right now, but I am curious as to whether others have the same problem. Thanks. Bev --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.795 / Virus Database: 539 - Release Date: 12/11/2004

Denise I donn't know if I told you but the old coack change over station hous is still at yarrawonga my husbands grandmother use to live in it It is now owned byy Joe Crothers DH's uncle I don't think anyone lives in it but I've been told the people travelling on the coach use to stay over night in the house I have never actull been in side the house as the Kitchen and eating area are in a seperate building. It is right on the lake at Yarrawonga right next to Crothers Cordial factory.Joe still runs the factory with his brother Jim and they may be able to help you a bit . Cheers, Judy Coates ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <denisem@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Koetong Hotel > Ray, what a find - this is fantastic thank you. The night just gets better! > > I've lots of information indicating where the coaches went etc. along the > Murray westwards - initially right to Echuca, but later only as far as > Corowa, but I haven't had a Yarrawonga snippet - and to boot a new staff > member! > Fancy washing the coaches ! > > THANK YOU, > > I'm having a great night. I've just found a missing family - one of Hiram's > sisters. Through a letter dated 1886 written by a Pastor in New Hampshire > to "Madam" (unknown, but have a good idea who she was) I've managed to > locate Hiram's nieces also with the help of the 1880 Census. A letter, a > town, two names, and the census gave me what I didn't have these past 6 > years. This was the only sibling of Hiram's that I didn't have information > for. Yahhooo. > > Denise > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joan" <joanmck@cv.quik.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 9:19 PM > Subject: Re: [HC] Koetong Hotel > > > > Hi Denise, > > "Peculiar Accident" Yarrawonga Mercury, 15/8/1889 > > On Tuesday afternoon a peculiar accident, entailing the loss of a valuable > > coach horse, > > occurred at the lagoon at the foot of Belmore Street. On the arrival of > > Crawford &Co's > > Cobram coach, the driver repaired to the lagoon for the purpose of washing > > the vehicle, > > and in doing so,drove into one of the deep holes in which the lagoon > > abounds, with the result that, before a rescue could be effected, one of > > the > > pair of horses was lost, the > > other animal, with difficulty, being rescued by Mr OWENS groom. > > > > Made sure the fires didn't get that one didn't he. > > Cheers Ray > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Denise <denisem@powerup.com.au> > > To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 8:54 PM > > Subject: Re: [HC] Koetong Hotel > > > > > >> Oh dear another fire in the stables! > >> Thanks Chris. I have a few now. > >> This is the second fire (different stables) to lob on my desktop tonight! > >> > >> Denise > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Christine" <wildmob@dodo.com.au> > >> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 5:30 PM > >> Subject: [HC] Koetong Hotel > >> > >> > >> > "A destructive fire broke out last Sunday, in the Koetong Hotel, > >> > formerly occupied by Mr. Osmond, but of which Mr. John Mildren had > >> > lately become the licensee. Shortly after 2 o'clock on Sun morning, > >> > flames were observed issuing from the hotel, & in spite of all that > >> > could be done to quench the conflagration, the building, with its > >> > contents, was in a very short time, burned to the ground, all but one > >> > room being consumed. The inmates were unable to save anything so rapid > >> > was the progress of the fire, and they were only just able to escape > >> > with little more than the clothes they stood in. > >> > The horses belonging to Messrs. CRAWFORD AND CONLEY, which were in a > >> > stable at the back were got out, but were fortunately uninjured. The > >> > stables were saved. It is not known how the fire originated, but it is > >> > conjectured that it must have proceeded from a candle left burning in > >> > one of the bedrooms. General sympathy is expressed for Mr. & Mrs. > >> > Mildren, who, we understand, were uninsured, and who have thus lost > >> > heavily by the fire. We believe it is Mr. Mildren's intention to supply > >> > what accomodation he can for travellers by the coach, in the room left > >> > standing, until the completion of the new edifice, which we are > >> > informed is to be erected without delay, on the site of the old hotel." > >> > > >> > Reported from - Upper Murray & Mitta Herald - 6.1.1887 > >> > > >> > Chris > >> > > >> > >> > > >

Hi list, regarding junk mail, I used to get a lot, but now just the online medication ads. I use a program called mailwasher pro, which allows me to scan and view the emails before opening my mail program. I can bounce emails back to the unwanted sender, and they get an undelivered mail message, and hopefully remove you from their mailing list. It also assists in virus detection. They also offer a free trial. Link to the site is listed here. http://www.firetrust.com/products/pro/ Regards Phil -----Original Message----- From: Wendy [mailto:wendyfensom@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Sunday, 14 November 2004 12:19 PM To: AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HC] Re Junk Mail Hi Bev, Yes, I've had various emails over the years from places like Nigeria and the Ivory Coast wanting my bank account details, etc. They pop up every now and then. The worst ones at the moment seem to be the 'drug' web sites wanting to sell cheap tablets, etc. I have cut my junk mail by around 90 percent or even more - my provider provides a free service and they automatically dump most of the junk into a special mailbox where it stays for two weeks so that you can check it if you want to. I didn't have to say what had to be dumped like some software systems do - they just seem to be able to identify most of it somehow. It's great as I only receive a handful of rubbish a week instead of truckloads and I never bother to check any more. I imagine more network providers will provide this type of service in the future so it might pay you to check with yours. Regards, Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bev Walker" <bbwalker@vic.chariot.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-HIGH-COUNTRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 10:34 AM Subject: [HC] Re Junk Mail > Goodmorning All. > > Just turned on the PC and once again there is the email, > from the Ivory Coast this time, wanting me to take money > etc. Obviously all a scam, but I wonder do any of you get > it as well. It is a nuisance which will be disposed of right > now, but I am curious as to whether others have the same > problem. > Thanks. Bev > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.795 / Virus Database: 539 - Release Date: 12/11/2004 > >