Hi Denise, This came from mycousin who is part of the Myrtleford Historical Society. Cheers Ray. ----- Original Message ----- From: Denise <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Morgan & Morgan > Hi Ray. > Sorry for the delay in answering. I only mention one word! > ozemail! > > Thanks for this - where did you get this information? > regards > Denise > >

Wendy (1). Does Robert's death certificate tell you how many years he spent in the colonies of Australia? (2). Did you search for an obituary/death notice in the papers where Robert's death took place (these often record some history of colonial settlers) (3). His children's obituaries may document when their father arrived (as often happened in this era). Have you also tried PASSENGERS AND CREW, IN AND OUT OF SYDNEY, from SYDNEY NEWSPAPERS, 1833 - 1835 by Nola M Mackay. Also....Joan Reece's COLONIAL SECRETARY's INWARD CORRESPONDENCE INDEX (as often free immigrants turn up in these). Have you eliminated all Robert Milne/s who were convicts? cheers Jenny Fawcett ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Unassisted Immigrants 1842-55 - Sydney > Jenny, > > I have searched hard for the arrival of my ggg-grandfather Robert MILNE (or > MILNES) believed to have been around 1832 in Sydney. Do you have any > suggestions for me please? I've tried the books at the library and also the > online shipping indexes. Nor can I find any trace of his wife Jessie (or > Janet) BRIMMER. I believe Robert may have been an unassisted immigrant but > don't know for sure. H did appear to have had some money and was able to > acquire some property in NSW before he came to the N/E around 1846. He came > originally from Lancashire so may have sailed out of Liverpool. > > Regards, > Wendy > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jenny Fawcett" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 4:51 PM > Subject: Re: [HC] Unassisted Immigrants 1842-55 - Sydney > > > > Jacki > > have you tried Mary Ann Warner's site? It is a work in progress....all > ships > > and passenger into Sydney c1855 - 1900's > > http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/shipdate.htm > > > > > > cheers > > Jenny > > > > > >

You may have these Wendy from NSW State Archive, haven't finished search on convicts. The page to search these here http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/keyname_search_2187.asp you may also order copies. Land Records MILNE Robert date 1839 1841 Census NSW MILNE Robert "Cogenburgh", County Argyle, District Goulburn [X946] 151 2222 MILNE Robert age 16 ship Boanerges year 1857 arriving in Sydney and Newcastle 2138, 2475 Jail Photo MILNE Jacob Robert born 1837 Glasgow photo at Darlinghurst 5/05/1893 Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: Wendy To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Unassisted Immigrants 1842-55 - Sydney Jenny, I have searched hard for the arrival of my ggg-grandfather Robert MILNE (or MILNES) believed to have been around 1832 in Sydney. Do you have any suggestions for me please? I've tried the books at the library and also the online shipping indexes. Nor can I find any trace of his wife Jessie (or Janet) BRIMMER. I believe Robert may have been an unassisted immigrant but don't know for sure. H did appear to have had some money and was able to acquire some property in NSW before he came to the N/E around 1846. He came originally from Lancashire so may have sailed out of Liverpool. Regards, Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny Fawcett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Unassisted Immigrants 1842-55 - Sydney > Jacki > have you tried Mary Ann Warner's site? It is a work in progress....all ships > and passenger into Sydney c1855 - 1900's > http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/shipdate.htm > > > cheers > Jenny > > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.10/120 - Release Date: 5/10/2005

Jackie, as they were German immigrants, there is a good chance they will figure in paperwork submitted to the Government. .....the State Records Office NSW would be a good place to start. J ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 5:44 PM Subject: RE: [HC] Unassisted Immigrants 1842-55 - Sydney > Thanks Jenny - the ship and crew are listed - unfortunately no ggg.gm. > Jackie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jenny Fawcett [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, 7 October 2005 4:51 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [HC] Unassisted Immigrants 1842-55 - Sydney > > > Jacki > have you tried Mary Ann Warner's site? It is a work in progress....all ships > and passenger into Sydney c1855 - 1900's > http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/shipdate.htm > > > cheers > Jenny > > >

Jenny, I have searched hard for the arrival of my ggg-grandfather Robert MILNE (or MILNES) believed to have been around 1832 in Sydney. Do you have any suggestions for me please? I've tried the books at the library and also the online shipping indexes. Nor can I find any trace of his wife Jessie (or Janet) BRIMMER. I believe Robert may have been an unassisted immigrant but don't know for sure. H did appear to have had some money and was able to acquire some property in NSW before he came to the N/E around 1846. He came originally from Lancashire so may have sailed out of Liverpool. Regards, Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny Fawcett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Unassisted Immigrants 1842-55 - Sydney > Jacki > have you tried Mary Ann Warner's site? It is a work in progress....all ships > and passenger into Sydney c1855 - 1900's > http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/shipdate.htm > > > cheers > Jenny > >

Well you wont get the originals of those Birth Certs until you 'splash' out on a new computer. Did you get the typed up versions I laboriously did for you? By the way I miss your cheery emails, Carolynne -----Original Message----- From: A&E Whatman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, 7 October 2005 6:31 p.m. To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HC] Moran -McCormack Best just to say "Thank God for Libraries" and at this present time the one in Hume. Elayne kelsall wrote: >So have you got your computer fixed yet? Or are you still monopolizing the >poor old library's one? >Let me know, >Carolynne. > >-----Original Message----- >From: A&E Whatman [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Friday, 7 October 2005 3:49 p.m. >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [HC] Moran -McCormack > >Yes, Carolynne, they are on my Moran Family tree. Elayne > > >kelsall wrote: > > > >>Is there anyone on the list connected with the McCormack family? >>Particularly the children of Brigid Moran & William McCormack. >>I have two photos which I think have their son William John in them. >>He died in Beechworth in 1960. >>If so, I would like to verify that it is William John. >>Carolynne (NZ) >> >>_____________________________________________________ >>This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line >>see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning >> >> >> >> >> > > > >_____________________________________________________ >This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line >see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning > > >

So have you got your computer fixed yet? Or are you still monopolizing the poor old library's one? Let me know, Carolynne. -----Original Message----- From: A&E Whatman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, 7 October 2005 3:49 p.m. To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HC] Moran -McCormack Yes, Carolynne, they are on my Moran Family tree. Elayne kelsall wrote: >Is there anyone on the list connected with the McCormack family? >Particularly the children of Brigid Moran & William McCormack. >I have two photos which I think have their son William John in them. >He died in Beechworth in 1960. >If so, I would like to verify that it is William John. >Carolynne (NZ) > >_____________________________________________________ >This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line >see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning > > >

Thanks Jenny - the ship and crew are listed - unfortunately no ggg.gm. Jackie -----Original Message----- From: Jenny Fawcett [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, 7 October 2005 4:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HC] Unassisted Immigrants 1842-55 - Sydney Jacki have you tried Mary Ann Warner's site? It is a work in progress....all ships and passenger into Sydney c1855 - 1900's http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/shipdate.htm cheers Jenny

Jacki - I've had a lot of success on these links, including the one Jenny sent thru, for NSW and even VIC. I then follow up on the last link, with the name of the ship, and many times find other information, including the exact date the ship arrived and sometimes even when it departed the country of origin. Cargo, the ports of call sometimes, and if you scan the pages sometimes you can pick up other particulars of the voyage. Sadly it only goes to 1855, but even so it's a wonderful resource just as the others are. BTW the third link covers Melbourne and Geelong and other country ports, even other states. Now that we have the unassisted in Sydney online resources for shipping have grown so much over the past couple of years, we're so lucky. http://www.blaxland.com/ozships/ http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/shipdate.htm http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/issn/14403897.html Denise

my ggf Haeffner came into Sydney in 1852. The shipping list I have shows his name and many others, however on this site they are not show, - a few are and if I check perhaps they will be cabin passengers. D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 4:38 PM Subject: RE: [HC] Unassisted Immigrants 1842-55 - Sydney >I was hoping to find my 3g.gm Elisabetha Hoehn who allegedly travelled > (Unassisted) to Australia > with her daughter Schubach and family on the Catteaux Wattel in 1855. No > luck I'm afraid. > Jackie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Denise [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, 7 October 2005 2:57 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [HC] Unassisted Immigrants 1842-55 - Sydney > > > Hi Wendy and Jackie. > > Not everyone is in that Index and I mean unassisted passengers. > I know of several who should be but are not. > However, it's wonderful to have another source to go to. > d

Jacki have you tried Mary Ann Warner's site? It is a work in progress....all ships and passenger into Sydney c1855 - 1900's http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/shipdate.htm cheers Jenny

I was hoping to find my 3g.gm Elisabetha Hoehn who allegedly travelled (Unassisted) to Australia with her daughter Schubach and family on the Catteaux Wattel in 1855. No luck I'm afraid. Jackie -----Original Message----- From: Denise [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, 7 October 2005 2:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HC] Unassisted Immigrants 1842-55 - Sydney Hi Wendy and Jackie. Not everyone is in that Index and I mean unassisted passengers. I know of several who should be but are not. However, it's wonderful to have another source to go to. d

Roz - thank you for the information which arrived today. So fast! I'm wondering if the witness was Wordworth or something similar. regards Denise

Best just to say "Thank God for Libraries" and at this present time the one in Hume. Elayne kelsall wrote: >So have you got your computer fixed yet? Or are you still monopolizing the >poor old library's one? >Let me know, >Carolynne. > >-----Original Message----- >From: A&E Whatman [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Friday, 7 October 2005 3:49 p.m. >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [HC] Moran -McCormack > >Yes, Carolynne, they are on my Moran Family tree. Elayne > > >kelsall wrote: > > > >>Is there anyone on the list connected with the McCormack family? >>Particularly the children of Brigid Moran & William McCormack. >>I have two photos which I think have their son William John in them. >>He died in Beechworth in 1960. >>If so, I would like to verify that it is William John. >>Carolynne (NZ) >> >>_____________________________________________________ >>This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line >>see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning >> >> >> >> >> > > > >_____________________________________________________ >This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line >see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning > > >

Is there anyone on the list connected with the McCormack family? Particularly the children of Brigid Moran & William McCormack. I have two photos which I think have their son William John in them. He died in Beechworth in 1960. If so, I would like to verify that it is William John. Carolynne (NZ)

Hi Wendy and Jackie. Not everyone is in that Index and I mean unassisted passengers. I know of several who should be but are not. However, it's wonderful to have another source to go to. d ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [HC] Unassisted Immigrants 1842-55 - Sydney > Thanks Jackie - much appreciated. > Wendy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jackie" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 1:04 PM > Subject: [HC] Unassisted Immigrants 1842-55 - Sydney > > >> >From another list - >> >> Unassisted Immigrants 1842-55 to Sydney are now searchable on line at >> http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/unassisted_immigrants.asp. >> Includes passengers from interstate. (A few Milnes for Wendy.) >> >> Jackie >> >> >>

Thanks Jackie - much appreciated. Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 1:04 PM Subject: [HC] Unassisted Immigrants 1842-55 - Sydney > >From another list - > > Unassisted Immigrants 1842-55 to Sydney are now searchable on line at > http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/unassisted_immigrants.asp. > Includes passengers from interstate. (A few Milnes for Wendy.) > > Jackie > > >

Hi Carolynne, Thanks very much for this - I'll have a good look at it. Have just returned from a five days' golfing trip and have lots of emails to read. I really appreciate your suggestion. Regards, Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "kelsall" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 7:53 AM Subject: [HC] New Zealand Gold fields > Wendy, > It is possible that your MILNE could have gone to the goldfields in the > Thames- Coromandel area of the North Island, New Zealand. > An excellent site you could search is:- www.kaelewis.com > > Carolynne >

Hi Ray. Sorry for the delay in answering. I only mention one word! ozemail! Thanks for this - where did you get this information? regards Denise

Is anyone researching/or a descendent of MAURICE JOSEPH MORTON, born Galway, married 1868 to MARY ANN BOYD, and then again in 1873 to MARY ANN LEWIS? Lived predominently in the Kangaroo Flat region in the 1860's and 1870's. cheers Jenny Fawcett