Hello listers, I'm researching the family of Daniel COOK 1842-1934 (son of Christopher COOK & Ellen CONSIDINE) and Elizabeth Mary RAWSON (daughter of Joseph RAWSON & Bridget NOONAN). Are there any cousins out there? Jenny

Thanks Rhonda, Microfiche not much use without a reader. I will have to see where I can view them, but I bet the one I want is just out of the date range. Thanks for your advice. Glenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian and Rhonda Williams" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 6:18 PM Subject: RE: [HC] BDM Tasmania > Sorry Glenda, as far as I know they aren't available online, here is the > address for the online site: > http://www.justice.tas.gov.au/bdm/family_history/indexes > > Note the price - $82.50!! > > > Rhonda Williams > mailto:[email protected] > > >

Glenda As Kerry said, the Tasmanian Pioneer Index BDM is from 1803-1899 The Hobart Library also has the following on microfiche which I can access for you. Tasmania Births 1900-1905 Marriages 1900-1919 Deaths 1900-1919 ian.

Sorry Glenda, as far as I know they aren't available online, here is the address for the online site: http://www.justice.tas.gov.au/bdm/family_history/indexes Note the price - $82.50!! Rhonda Williams mailto:[email protected]

Thanks Rhonda, I am always after something that is not available! Do you know if I can enquire online? Glenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian and Rhonda Williams" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 12:34 PM Subject: RE: [HC] BDM Tasmania > Hi Glenda, > > yes there is another series after this, but it is only available on > microfiche. As Tasmania also uses the KAWARE system that NSW does I > imagine > there is a problem getting the information out on CD, as the system is DOS > based and you can't print out the results on most of the printers > available > today that use a USB connection. > > > Rhonda Williams > mailto:[email protected] > > > Does anyone have the Tasmanian BDM and could do a look up for me, or are > they available on line? I am looking for a birth around 1916 - 1920 and a > death around 1916 - 1926. Are these accessible? > Thanks > Glenda > > >

Hi Glenda, yes there is another series after this, but it is only available on microfiche. As Tasmania also uses the KAWARE system that NSW does I imagine there is a problem getting the information out on CD, as the system is DOS based and you can't print out the results on most of the printers available today that use a USB connection. Rhonda Williams mailto:[email protected] Does anyone have the Tasmanian BDM and could do a look up for me, or are they available on line? I am looking for a birth around 1916 - 1920 and a death around 1916 - 1926. Are these accessible? Thanks Glenda

Hi Glenda, yes there is another series after this, but it is only available on microfiche. As Tasmania also uses the KAWARE system that NSW does I imagine there is a problem getting the information out on CD, as the system is DOS based and you can't print out the results on most of the printers available today that use a USB connection. Rhonda Williams mailto:[email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenda Matthews" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 8:53 PM Subject: [HC] BDM Tasmania > Does anyone have the Tasmanian BDM and could do a look up for me, or are > they available on line? I am looking for a birth around 1916 - 1920 and a > death around 1916 - 1926. Are these accessable? > Thanks > Glenda >

Hello Anne! I had a McDiarmid family in Mansfield but the head was Duncan married to Isabella Fraser the had around 9 children from which I am decended from, I don't know of any other McDiarmid's in masfield but I do know his sister Ann (I think )came out and lived with them untill she was married. I don't know of any Charles but that dosen't mean he wasn't there. Cheers, Judy Coates ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hanson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 12:17 PM Subject: [HC] McDIARMID Family - Mansfield > Hi All, > > In 1862/63 according to a book I have been reading there was a McDIARMID > family in the Mansfield area - I think on a property. Now the head of the > family, may have been a Charles McDIARMID. If any one knows anything about > this family I'd be grateful if they could get back to me please. > > Anne Hanson > > > >

Hi Glenda I only have the Tasmanian Pioneer Index BDM, it is from 1803-1899 I am not sure if there is another series after this one. Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: Glenda Matthews To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 8:53 PM Subject: [HC] BDM Tasmania Does anyone have the Tasmanian BDM and could do a look up for me, or are they available on line? I am looking for a birth around 1916 - 1920 and a death around 1916 - 1926. Are these accessable? Thanks Glenda -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 21/10/2005

Does anyone have the Tasmanian BDM and could do a look up for me, or are they available on line? I am looking for a birth around 1916 - 1920 and a death around 1916 - 1926. Are these accessable? Thanks Glenda

Thanks Anne for the info, the history is really interesting Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: Anne Hanson To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 8:03 PM Subject: [HC] Melbourne Orphan Asylum Below the ******* you will find a transcript from the 1901 Cyclopaedia of Victoria which those of you who are attempting to trace orphans may find interesting. I should add that photographs of the Melbourne Orphan Asylum can be seen on the State Library of Victoria's web site. ****** MELBOURNE ORPHAN ASYLUM The Melbourne Orphan Asylum entered upon its jubilee year in 1901. It was founded in 1851 by the committee of the St. James' Dorcas Society. His Excellency Mr. C. J. Latrobe was one of the members of the committee. Two years previously, in 1849, the society had been giving shelter to orphan children and destitute old people. In 1851 the latter were removed to the Benevolent Asylum, and the children placed in a separate establishment in a building erected on Government land in Bourke Street West. The institution was then, named "The St. James' Orphan Asylum." In 1854, the site of the asylum having been proved unhealthy, the Government of Victoria granted ten acres of land on Emerald Hill (now South Melbourne) as a site for a new Orphan Asylum. The children, in very bad health, were removed temporarily from Bourke Street to tents upon Government land near the residence of Mr. and Mrs. James Simpson, at Kew. Mrs. Simpson with great kindness took special charge of the children until they could be removed into the new asylum, the foundation stone of which was laid by the Governor of the colony (His Excellency Sir Chas. Hotham) on the 6th of September, 1855. The building was finished and the children removed into it in March, 1856. In 1875 (5th March) the institution was incorporated under Act 27 Victoria No. 220, under the name of "The Melbourne Orphan Asylum." It had by that time grown from its day of small things to be a home for over 300 children. Though still called "The Melbourne Orphan Asylum," it is in reality (so far as Victoria is concerned) a national institution, because it receives orphans from every part of the State excepting Geelong and Ballarat, in which places district orphanages have been established. In 1878 another removal was found to be desirable. The occupation of so large an area in the rapidly-increasing municipality of Emerald Hill became a serious inconvenience to the city, and as the surrounding land had become thickly populated the site was less eligible than it had been for the congregation in one building of a large number of children. The orphanage, therefore, by an arrangement between the Government, the municipal council, and the Asylum Committee, was removed to its present very eligible and beautiful site at Brighton, where, in separate cottage homes, upon a larger block of land, the children enjoy the combined advantages of sea air and training in dairy farming and other industrial pursuits, embracing baking, boot and shoe making, tailoring, dressmaking, ploughing, and milking. At the time of the change, advantage was taken of the opportunity to introduce more of the family and natural home life among the children than can be obtained when they are congregated in great numbers in one large building. The new orphanage was built on the cottage or separate house principle, and the practice of boarding out some of the children with carefully selected private families in country homes among farmers and others was also adopted. In the cottage homes at Brighton each house contains a family of about twenty-five. The children are under the care of a house-mother, and the elder ones are trained to perform all the household duties and to assist in the care of the younger children. The benefits of the Melbourne Orphan Asylum, as has been previously remarked, are not confined to Melbourne alone, destitute orphan children being admitted into it from the most distant parts of the State. It has carried on its noble work for the past forty-nine years, and no orphan child, if destitute and deprived by death of both parents., has ever been refused admission. Fatherless children of destitute widows who have more than two young children may also be admitted, but in such cases the widow must provide, by her own labour and friendly local help, for at least two other children. Any over that number may be considered orphans' eligible for admission, but work in that direction is limited by the state of the funds. The institution, since the date of its. establishment, has received and provided for nearly 4,000 children. The cottage homes contain at present about 100 boys and girls, varying in age from three to fourteen years. The boarding-out districts are thirty-six in number, extending over various country, farming, and suburban places in Victoria. Local committees have charge of these districts, and under their supervision upwards of 200 children, at and under school age, are supported. Between the ages of fourteen and seventeen the boys and girls are apprenticed (under indentures from the institution) to various trades, farm work, or domestic service. The orphanage is supported by private benevolence, supplemented to a limited extent by Government aid. "A record of the children's conduct, kept after they leave the institution," observes the superintendent, "shows that of all who have been trained within its walls from 90 to 95 per cent, grow up good citizens. There is every reason to believe," he adds, "that were it not for the work of this noble institution the criminal classes of the colony would be augmented by this, vast number, and that circumstance alone should suffice to commend it to the charitably-disposed of all classes," Not a little of the gratifying success of this institution is attributable to its superintendent, Mr. Edwin Exon, who has filled that post from 1859 to 1903 with conspicuous ability, zeal, and devotion. Possessing the true "enthusiasm for humanity," with a sympathetic nature, a high sense of duty, a genuine love for his orphan charges, and a thorough aptitude for administrative work, Mr. Exon has been for over forty years the animating spirit of the asylum, while to many outside its walls he is well known by his literary attainments, the possession of which he has proved to be perfectly compatible with the exercise of those practical qualities which have proved to be of so much value to the asylum which he superintends. Cheers Anne -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 21/10/2005

Below the ******* you will find a transcript from the 1901 Cyclopaedia of Victoria which those of you who are attempting to trace orphans may find interesting. I should add that photographs of the Melbourne Orphan Asylum can be seen on the State Library of Victoria's web site. ****** MELBOURNE ORPHAN ASYLUM The Melbourne Orphan Asylum entered upon its jubilee year in 1901. It was founded in 1851 by the committee of the St. James' Dorcas Society. His Excellency Mr. C. J. Latrobe was one of the members of the committee. Two years previously, in 1849, the society had been giving shelter to orphan children and destitute old people. In 1851 the latter were removed to the Benevolent Asylum, and the children placed in a separate establishment in a building erected on Government land in Bourke Street West. The institution was then, named "The St. James' Orphan Asylum." In 1854, the site of the asylum having been proved unhealthy, the Government of Victoria granted ten acres of land on Emerald Hill (now South Melbourne) as a site for a new Orphan Asylum. The children, in very bad health, were removed temporarily from Bourke Street to tents upon Government land near the residence of Mr. and Mrs. James Simpson, at Kew. Mrs. Simpson with great kindness took special charge of the children until they could be removed into the new asylum, the foundation stone of which was laid by the Governor of the colony (His Excellency Sir Chas. Hotham) on the 6th of September, 1855. The building was finished and the children removed into it in March, 1856. In 1875 (5th March) the institution was incorporated under Act 27 Victoria No. 220, under the name of "The Melbourne Orphan Asylum." It had by that time grown from its day of small things to be a home for over 300 children. Though still called "The Melbourne Orphan Asylum," it is in reality (so far as Victoria is concerned) a national institution, because it receives orphans from every part of the State excepting Geelong and Ballarat, in which places district orphanages have been established. In 1878 another removal was found to be desirable. The occupation of so large an area in the rapidly-increasing municipality of Emerald Hill became a serious inconvenience to the city, and as the surrounding land had become thickly populated the site was less eligible than it had been for the congregation in one building of a large number of children. The orphanage, therefore, by an arrangement between the Government, the municipal council, and the Asylum Committee, was removed to its present very eligible and beautiful site at Brighton, where, in separate cottage homes, upon a larger block of land, the children enjoy the combined advantages of sea air and training in dairy farming and other industrial pursuits, embracing baking, boot and shoe making, tailoring, dressmaking, ploughing, and milking. At the time of the change, advantage was taken of the opportunity to introduce more of the family and natural home life among the children than can be obtained when they are congregated in great numbers in one large building. The new orphanage was built on the cottage or separate house principle, and the practice of boarding out some of the children with carefully selected private families in country homes among farmers and others was also adopted. In the cottage homes at Brighton each house contains a family of about twenty-five. The children are under the care of a house-mother, and the elder ones are trained to perform all the household duties and to assist in the care of the younger children. The benefits of the Melbourne Orphan Asylum, as has been previously remarked, are not confined to Melbourne alone, destitute orphan children being admitted into it from the most distant parts of the State. It has carried on its noble work for the past forty-nine years, and no orphan child, if destitute and deprived by death of both parents., has ever been refused admission. Fatherless children of destitute widows who have more than two young children may also be admitted, but in such cases the widow must provide, by her own labour and friendly local help, for at least two other children. Any over that number may be considered orphans' eligible for admission, but work in that direction is limited by the state of the funds. The institution, since the date of its. establishment, has received and provided for nearly 4,000 children. The cottage homes contain at present about 100 boys and girls, varying in age from three to fourteen years. The boarding-out districts are thirty-six in number, extending over various country, farming, and suburban places in Victoria. Local committees have charge of these districts, and under their supervision upwards of 200 children, at and under school age, are supported. Between the ages of fourteen and seventeen the boys and girls are apprenticed (under indentures from the institution) to various trades, farm work, or domestic service. The orphanage is supported by private benevolence, supplemented to a limited extent by Government aid. "A record of the children's conduct, kept after they leave the institution," observes the superintendent, "shows that of all who have been trained within its walls from 90 to 95 per cent, grow up good citizens. There is every reason to believe," he adds, "that were it not for the work of this noble institution the criminal classes of the colony would be augmented by this, vast number, and that circumstance alone should suffice to commend it to the charitably-disposed of all classes," Not a little of the gratifying success of this institution is attributable to its superintendent, Mr. Edwin Exon, who has filled that post from 1859 to 1903 with conspicuous ability, zeal, and devotion. Possessing the true "enthusiasm for humanity," with a sympathetic nature, a high sense of duty, a genuine love for his orphan charges, and a thorough aptitude for administrative work, Mr. Exon has been for over forty years the animating spirit of the asylum, while to many outside its walls he is well known by his literary attainments, the possession of which he has proved to be perfectly compatible with the exercise of those practical qualities which have proved to be of so much value to the asylum which he superintends. Cheers Anne

Hi All, In 1862/63 according to a book I have been reading there was a McDIARMID family in the Mansfield area - I think on a property. Now the head of the family, may have been a Charles McDIARMID. If any one knows anything about this family I'd be grateful if they could get back to me please. Anne Hanson

Hi Anne, You are welcome to post the list I am the only list administrator - and welcome any postings of this type Regards Dianne Carroll Aus-High-Country - List Administrator -----Original Message----- From: Anne Hanson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, 23 October 2005 8:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [HC] Wardens - Beechworth Hi All, I was looking for something else on the S & K Melbourne 1861 directory and came across the following which I thought might be of interest to some of you. The names listed below were under the head, Wardens & Chinese Protectors: Beechworth-Resident Warden, E. T. Barnard, Beechworth. Wardens, W. H. Drummond, Beechworth ; J. S. Morphy, Snake Valley ; W. H. Gaunt, Indigo ; H. B. Lane, Yackandandah ; C. C. Dowling, Buckland ; A. C. Wills, Omeo; W. Butler (acting), Woolshed G. M, Lowther, C. E. Wilmot, Inglewood. I also found a rather long list of Guardians to consent to the marriage of minors which I'm happy to post to the list, if the two list administrators agree. Cheers Anne

Hi All, I was looking for something else on the S & K Melbourne 1861 directory and came across the following which I thought might be of interest to some of you. The names listed below were under the head, Wardens & Chinese Protectors: Beechworth-Resident Warden, E. T. Barnard, Beechworth. Wardens, W. H. Drummond, Beechworth ; J. S. Morphy, Snake Valley ; W. H. Gaunt, Indigo ; H. B. Lane, Yackandandah ; C. C. Dowling, Buckland ; A. C. Wills, Omeo; W. Butler (acting), Woolshed G. M, Lowther, C. E. Wilmot, Inglewood. I also found a rather long list of Guardians to consent to the marriage of minors which I'm happy to post to the list, if the two list administrators agree. Cheers Anne

Hi Kerry, Will give them a go! Thank you for the reply. Carolynne -----Original Message----- From: Kerry [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, 20 October 2005 1:48 p.m. To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HC] Beyond Gold Hi Carolynne Because this book was published as an anniversary gift to the Catholic parish of Bright and Mt Beauty, I would try them, I received my copy through an aunt, who received it via the Mytleford Catholic parish. Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: kelsall To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 7:10 AM Subject: [HC] Beyond Gold Hi, Can anyone tell me where I would be able to purchase Ken Treacy's book 'Beyond Gold - 150 years of Memories 1848-1998' ? Thank you, Carolynne (NZ) -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.2/137 - Release Date: 16/10/2005

Thanks Anthony, That's a great site to have on hand. Cheers, Carolynne -----Original Message----- From: Anthony Bigelow [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, 20 October 2005 2:20 p.m. To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HC] Beyond Gold Hi Carolynne, A good website for secondhand books is: www.bookfinder.com They may not have the book in stock currently, however its a handy resource to add to your favourites as it includes numerous stores from around the globe. Regards, Anthony >From: "Kerry" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [HC] Beyond Gold >Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 10:47:52 +1000 > >Hi Carolynne > >Because this book was published as an anniversary gift to the Catholic >parish of Bright and Mt Beauty, I would try them, I received my copy >through an aunt, who received it via the Mytleford Catholic parish. > >Kerry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: kelsall > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 7:10 AM > Subject: [HC] Beyond Gold > > > Hi, > > Can anyone tell me where I would be able to purchase Ken Treacy's book > 'Beyond Gold - 150 years of Memories 1848-1998' ? > > Thank you, > Carolynne (NZ) > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.2/137 - Release Date: >16/10/2005 > > _________________________________________________________________ Sell your car for $9 on carpoint.com.au http://www.carpoint.com.au/sellyourcar

Hi All, I think I must be missing something because Annie Christina MOORS seems to have fallen off the face of the earth. She was born to John and Elizabeth MOORS (nee STEWART) at Mansfield in 1863. My problem is that despite my best efforts I cannot locate a marriage or death for this woman. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Anne

Hi Carolynne Because this book was published as an anniversary gift to the Catholic parish of Bright and Mt Beauty, I would try them, I received my copy through an aunt, who received it via the Mytleford Catholic parish. Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: kelsall To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 7:10 AM Subject: [HC] Beyond Gold Hi, Can anyone tell me where I would be able to purchase Ken Treacy's book 'Beyond Gold - 150 years of Memories 1848-1998' ? Thank you, Carolynne (NZ) -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.2/137 - Release Date: 16/10/2005

Hi, Can anyone tell me where I would be able to purchase Ken Treacy's book 'Beyond Gold - 150 years of Memories 1848-1998' ? Thank you, Carolynne (NZ)