Hi Jeanette, I've tried to find Ann/Hannah Birnie etc... under any variation with deaths to 1985, and no luck. Do you have Bertha's birth certificate... this looks like it may be Bertha... Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 Surname: HOWARD Given Names: Bertha Helen Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: George Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Anna ELLIS Age: Sex: Birth Place: AMHE Death Place: Year: 1860 Reg Number: 9662 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Note Anna's maiden name is given as 'Ellis'. I have looked for a death for Ann/etc with father's surname being Ellis, & a Howard/Ellis marriage, but again no luck. However, I may have found a distant cousin for you in Hawaii... http://tinyurl.com/afb2x When you click on George's name, it states 'went to Australia' :) Father: Thomas HOWARD b: 1800 Mother: Mary Hall HOWARD b: ABT 1805 in 1891 Name: George MacAuley HOWARD 1 Sex: M Birth: 1830 1 Death: UNKNOWN This is a possible death for Ann, but parents unknown. Digger - Edwardian Index. Victoria 1902-1913 Query ----- Surname : howard (830 matches) Given Names : ann* (32645 matches) Event : d (184202 matches) Total matching records: 7 -------------------- Surname: HOWARD Given Names: Anna Event: D Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Unknown Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Unknown UNKNOWN Age: 56 Age Code: Birth Place: Death Place: Melb E H Year: 1902 Reg. Number: 6463 ******************************* Do you have any idea where Ann Birnie was born or how old she was? I'll keep digging. :) Kind regards, Sherrie. On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:08:42 +1000, jeanette andrewartha <joeli@ihug.com.au> wrote: > Hello All, has anyone any idea where I can look (have searched births, > deaths marriges) to find a marriage certificate between George Macauley > Howard and Ann, annie, anna, Hannah Birnie, Berney. This marriage is > reported to have taken place in March 1858 and on various birth > certificates in Swan Hill, St. Arnaud, Alma and Avoca. Any assistance > would be much appreciated. Also any clues as to how I find a death > certificate for Ann, Annie etc Howard especially after 1900 without > buying an excessive number of death certificates for Ann, annie, anna > etc Howard. > Thank you, > Jeanette > -----Original Message----- > From: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-D-request@rootsweb.com > [mailto:AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-D-request@rootsweb.com] > Sent: Monday, 12 September 2005 6:00 AM > To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-D@rootsweb.com > Subject: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-D Digest V05 #238 > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > Threaded archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/aus-vic-goldfields > >