Robyn, for your John Thomas BYNON, I suppose that you have checked the World War 1 Nominal and Embarkation Rolls at the Australian War Memorial site? He gets a mention, and so does his wife Ruby. Their address at the time of him enlisting is 23 Dickens-street, Carlton. He enlisted as a Sapper. Search http://www.awm.gov.au/database/nroll.asp. His full service record of 44 pages is in the National Archives. You can request that a digital copy be made available on line, but it might be quicker to order a photocopy (and pay for it!) This record might give some of the details you are after, but is not always guaranteed. Try searching http://www.naa.gov.au/. hth Trevor Check ----- Original Message ----- From: Robyn Leeds To: trevor ; AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 10:32 PM Subject: Re: Burial records "maybe she is in the same grave as her husband and there was no one around to bother about adding her name to the headstone." Hi Trevor :) I have this exact situation with one of my own ancestors, buried at Fawkner. John Thomas BYNON is buried on his own, or so you would think from his headstone. On his headstone it reads 504 2/Corporal J.T. Bynon 2 Tunnelling Company, 21st February 1929 ACE 4-6 (or is that 4.6?). I have no idea what the "ACE" part means which is why I typed that in full. If anyone else knows, can you please inform me? Ta muchly! :D Here's a photo of it anyway ... http://www.honeyshome.com/oz/jpg_A_086.htm Anyway, that's all that's on his headstone, but according to Fawkner records which I'd searched online before we headed down to Oz last March, his wife Ruby Beatrice IS buried with him, but no mention of her on the headstone!! Now the REALLY weird part is that Ruby died in 1926 and John died in 1929, so why wasn't HER name on the headstone and not HIS?!?!? Hmmmmmmmmm ... the plot thickens!! ;D Now if one of John and Ruby's descendants would just find my website and contact me, maybe I'll one day have the answer to this little mystery. And that's why I personally think publishing your tree on your own website is an excellent idea. I've had so many cousins contact me via my website and because of it I've received a heap of information, given back more than I was given AND corrected errors. I'm VERY happy I bought my own domain and upload updated trees on a regular basis!! :D Take care, Rob.

"I suppose that you have checked the World War 1 Nominal and Embarkation Rolls at the Australian War Memorial site?" Hi Trevor :) No, I haven't actually, because he's not one of my "direct" lines, but this is great news, thanks! :D I've got WW2 Certificates on my site in my family albums for some of my BYNONs, but not John which is understandable since he died before then! ;D I'll definitely go take a look and have a good think about ordering a photocopy of his records. Thanks again!! :D Take care, Rob.

"Try searching http://www.naa.gov.au/." Hi Trevor :) Thanks VERY much for the suggestion above, I did just that after receiving an email from Lyn saying his records WERE available. I couldn't find him on my first run through, but I DID find one of my STRAUGHAIR ancestors, and my Uncle Richie, so I think now I've found John Thomas I'm going to have to put them all in my "wish list" and order copies next year. I'd love to do it now, but I've just forked out AU$3,000 for my 15yo son Casey to fly over for Christmas (he's actually somewhere between Sydney and Tokyo right now, WOOHOO!! :D oooops! sorry, that's not on topic, I'm just super excited! lol) so once he heads back to Oz late January I'll look into this further. One question for ALL of you about the NAA site ... is there any way to find out how many pages are in these records BEFORE ordering them? It's going to cost me about AU$28 per person for photocopies, but I noticed on the prices page that it's only about 20 cents per page on smallish sized records. I'm just wondering if perhaps it might be more financially viable to just get "basic info" copied and order the full records for people like Uncle Richie who I grew up with and would love to read about, or direct ancestors. Anyone know if that's possible please? While I'm emailing you all again, I'm going to take this opportunity to slip in an off topic note! ;D I hope you all have a wonderful Christmas and a very happy, safe and healthy 2006, and may all your brick walls come tumbling down in the new year!!!! :D You've all been a wonderful help to me while I've been a member of this list so a HUGE thank you to you all again! :D If any of you are doing any research over the Christmas season and you happen to notice any ARMSTRONG, BYNON or STRAUGHAIR names, I'd love to hear about it! :D Take care, Rob.