Dear Carmel and the list, Many thanks for the info regarding the licenses, I'm staggered that there was no management of the licenses or at least a register of some sort Mark and William were from South Tawton Devon England, Mark was one year old when he arrived at Point Henry Geelong in 1849 (born 1848) with his large family. William was born in 1812 and now I believe that he died in 1854, until this afternoon I wasn't aware of this, so an interesting day, I'd be interested to find out about William's death circumstances and where this occurred? His parents were Mary Cross and William Lee (snr) Mark continues to be a real problem (brick wall) the fellows that you have mentioned unfortunately don't seem to be my fellow, thankfully the fellow in Mildura doesn't match the details, My fellow's mother was Matilda Lee nee Finch and his father William Lee (above) Maybe Victoria got too small or he changed his name, although, I don't believe he did anything wrong except not coming back home (bad enough I guess)!!!! Any help on Mark would be much appreciated, I guess it would be nice to find him after 100 years, it's a pity I couldn't tell his daughter (my g/mother) I located her dad,, that's history I guess As for the Chinese angle, yes, I've accidentally spoken to several Chinese Lee's in my stumbling and bumbling search for Mark. Many thanks Ian in Torquay