Well, Robert........thanks soooo much for the reminder of the PRO indexes and in particular the wills index. I have just searched the wills database, and bingo, I have already found two om my lot..... so I am busy printing at the moment. How wonderful it is to be able to see these documents. One of them I found has actually given me the proof I needed to "break down a brick wall". Thanks again, Val. (very hot and humid Queensland)