Having struck too many solid brick wall on my Tasmanian convict research, I decided to investigate the Victorian side and lo and behold I had missed a vital clue.....James and Johanna DAVIS (nee Murphy) were required to give their written permission for the marriage of their daughter Sarah Ann DAVIS to John SANLON at the Reefs Presbytery, Pleasant Creek 7/11/1969 - this means of course they had to have been in Victoria. How have I not seen this before?????. Anyway, according to AVRI James Davis and Johanna Murphy had children in Victoria Robert 8847/1857 Melb. Died 4120/1857 Melbourne James 918/1859 N. Melbourne Robert 9362/1861 Kyneton Eliza 20778/1963 MULG George 25325/1870 Pleasant Creek >From VIC BDMs a Johanna Davis died at Ararat Hospital aged 75 in 1898 (b.c.1823 - fits OK - 30 when she had Sarah Ann in Ireland in 1852 and 47 when she had George in 1870) I cannot yet prove that all the above is the right family. I will apply for a copy of the death certificate of Johanna which may help. Any advice or help appreciated. regards Sharon