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    1. RE: pearce - Brockenshire
    2. And Mary Jane may have remarried (not in Vic index though). A John Dower and Mary Jane Brokenshire were having children in Kyneton area from 1871 to 1879. Lyn in Melbourne >-- Original Message -- >From: "Denis Edwards" <djedwds@bigpond.com> >To: <aus-vic-goldfields@rootsweb.com> >Subject: pearce - Brockenshire >Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 16:59:44 +1000 > > >Hi All , > >need some help > >Looking for a John Fowel Pearce born 1833 St AGNES Cornwall >supposedly he died in april 1869 in Australia > >i find him as the father in eaglehawk victoria in a birth entry for a Fohn >Fowel Pearce b1868 mother Mary Jane Brockenshire > >the sons birth is the only entry i can find notheing else for this family > > >any suggestions greatfully recieved >cheers >denis edwards > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-request@rootsweb.com >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >of the message

    08/27/2011 11:55:47
    1. pearce - Brockenshire
    2. gayoneill
    3. Hi Denis, do you have this for him in England Two possibilities but the first is most probably him as it does say John F Pearce. 1851 England Census John F Pearce , 18 born abt 1833 Mother's name: Mary A Pearce Where born: St Agnes, Cornwall, England Civil parish: St Agnes : Cornwall Registration district: Truro Sub-registration district: Probus Mary A Pearce 51 mother inkeeper John F Pearce 18 (your John a Tin minner) Thomas H Pearce 16 brother a blacksmith Mary I Pearce 14 James Pearce 11 1851 England John Pearce 18 born abt 1833 Mother's name: Loveday Pearce B0rn: St Agnes, Cornwall, England Civil parish: Phillack County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Registration district: Redruth Sub-registration district: Camborne Loveday Pearce 52 mother - housekeeper Thomas Pearce 21 Richd Pearce 19 John Pearce 18 (your John a Blacksmith) Elizabeth Pearce 16 Let me know if you would me to follow up on those in England Cheers Gay ---- Denis Edwards <djedwds@bigpond.com> wrote: > Hi All , > > need some help > > Looking for a John Fowel Pearce born 1833 St AGNES Cornwall > supposedly he died in april 1869 in Australia > > i find him as the father in eaglehawk victoria in a birth entry for a Fohn Fowel Pearce b1868 mother Mary Jane Brockenshire > > the sons birth is the only entry i can find notheing else for this family > > any suggestions greatfully recieved > cheers > denis edwards > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/27/2011 11:53:50
    1. RE: Louisa Cambry
    2. Dawn Webb
    3. Well there is this which may be her - as a young, very yuuong, unwed mother it seems CAMBRY Alice Lucy born Father: Unknown Mother: Louisa CAMBRY Birth Place: HOTHAM EAST Year: 1891 Reg. Number: 4048 And then, this CAMBRY Louisa Marion married TREWHELLA Alf Chas Birth Place: MELB (her) Year: 1891 Reg. Number: 8628 These - no idea where the Edwards bit comes in for sure TREWHELLA Alf Chas married CAMBRY Louisa Marion Birth Place: HOBART (him) Year: 1891 Reg. Number: 8628 And what looks like the first child to the marriage TREWHELLA Gertrude Marie born Father: Alfred Mother: Louise Ma EDWARDS Birth Place: FITZROY Year: 1893 Reg. Number: 3648 Then, try these TREWHELLA Alice Lucy married GIBAUD Hy Jas Birth Place: FITZ (her - near enough to East Melbourne/Hotham) Year: 1909 Reg. Number: 7581 TREWHELLA Gert Marie married WHEELER Herbt Walt Birth Place: FITZ (her, NSW him)Year: 1912 Reg. Number: 6038 The next generation - Gibaud GIBAUD Ernt Vernon born Father: Hy Jas Mother: Alice Lucy TREAHELLA Birth Place: COLLINGWOOD Year: 1910 Reg. Number: 26496 GIBAUD Ernt Vernon died Father: Gibaud Hy Jas Mother: Alice Lucy TREAHALIA Death Place: Fitz N Year: 1911 Reg. Number: 4859 GIBAUD Hy Jas born Father: Hy Jas Mother: Alice Lucy TREWHELLA Birth Place: CARLTON Year: 1911 Reg. Number: 26589 Wheeler lot.. WHEELER Herbt Clarence b Father:Herbt Walt ChasMother:GertrudeMarieTREWHELLA Birth Place: FITZROY NORTH Year: 1913 Reg. Number: 12194 No more births that I can find but then moving along Digger - Death Index. Victoria 1921-1985 GIBAUD Alice Lucy Father: Trewhella Alfr Mother: Louise EDWARDS Death Place: FRAN Age: 84 Year: 1976 Reg Number: 30421 GIBAUD Henry James Father: Henry James Mother: Alice Lucy Death Place: KARI Year: 1980 Reg Number: 07972 Seems he stayed close to Mum - Karingal is almost the same as Frankston. Cannot see the death of Hy James Snr though. And the Wheeler family Digger - Death Index. Victoria 1921-1985 WHEELER Herbert Walter Father: Herbert Benj Mother: Annie Dunlo FERGUSON Death Place: FITZ Age: 65 Year: 1956 Reg Number: 6886 WHEELER Herbert Clarence Father: Herbert Walt Mother: Gertrude CAMBREY Death Place: PARK Age: 61 Year: 1974 Reg Number: 17248 Event: D There are big public hospitals in the Fitzroy/Parkville East Melbourne regions - but Park could also be Parkdale which is towards Frankston. Nothing more found - if age is not listed, it is not on index. The age and birth/death place came and went over the years or records... Looking at marriages there is the implication that there is another Ernest Vernon Gibaud about in addition to the one that died as an infant. Nothing more known. Digger - Marriage Index. Victoria 1921-1942 GIBAUD Henry James married THOMPSON Alma Dorithy Registration Year: 1933 Registration Number: 1937 GIBAUD Henry James married THOMSON Alma Dory Registration Year: 1933 Registration Number: 1937 Corrected entries for the same event I would say. GIBAUD Ernest Vernon married SMITH Ada Ivy Registration Year: 1935 Registration Number: 13791 This could be another son, or a cousin I suppose - same name is suggestive of it being family even without the unusual surname. Digger - Marriage Index. Victoria 1921-1942 WHEELER Herbt Clarence married MCMANIS Zeta Annie Registration Year: 1930 I would suggest looking at NSW and SA records for more children to both the children of Louise/a Cambry - I cannot say there are, but it seems very possible. Good luck Dawn I was curious about the Edwards Cambry bit Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 CAMBRY Louisa Marian born Father: Edward Mother: Louisa EDWARDS Birth Place: MELB Year: 1875 Reg Number: 10961 I could not see the same entry as Edwards anywhere. And CAMBRY Edward married EDWARDS Louisa Birth Place: CHEPSTOWE (him) Year: 1872 Reg Number: 3496 (Melbourne is where she was born) There were lots of children CAMBRY Florence Catherine Father: Edward Mother: Louisa EDWARDS Birth Place: MELB NTH Year: 1873 Reg Number: 18082 And from then on, all the same unless otherwise shown CAMBRY Albert Edward Year: 1873 Reg Number: 18083 CAMBRY Louisa Marian Birth Place: MELB Year: 1875 Reg Number: 10961 which is the one above CAMBRY Lilian Father: Edwin Birth Place:WEST MELBYear:1877 Reg Number: 23698 CAMBRY Maud Mary Birth Place: ME LB Year: 1878 Reg Number: 17567 CAMBRY Violet Beatrice Birth Place: MELB W Year: 1880 Reg Number: 3777 CAMBRY Violet DIED Age:16M Death Place: MELB W Year: 1881 Reg Number: 2175 Have I looked up Maud Mary for you once before?? the name seems toring bells Dawn -----Original Message----- From: aus-vic-goldfields-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-vic-goldfields-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carol Kelsh Sent: Saturday, 27 August 2011 2:37 PM To: aus-vic-goldfields@rootsweb.com Subject: Louisa Cambry Hi Everyone,I am Looking for info on Louisa Marian Cambry b 1875 Melbourne. Her parents were Edward/Edwin Cambray and Louisa Marion Edwards. I would like to know if she married , Children if any, and deaths of louisa and husband ? Thank you,Carol, S.A. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6414 (20110826) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6414 (20110826) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

    08/27/2011 11:50:05
    1. RE: pearce - Brockenshire
    2. Hi Denis, this could be him - died Victoria 1869#4406 John Pierce - parents unknown - 35yrs. You would have to get the death certificate to find if there was any other info. Lyn in Melbourne >-- Original Message -- >From: "Denis Edwards" <djedwds@bigpond.com> >To: <aus-vic-goldfields@rootsweb.com> >Subject: pearce - Brockenshire >Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 16:59:44 +1000 > > >Hi All , > >need some help > >Looking for a John Fowel Pearce born 1833 St AGNES Cornwall >supposedly he died in april 1869 in Australia > >i find him as the father in eaglehawk victoria in a birth entry for a Fohn >Fowel Pearce b1868 mother Mary Jane Brockenshire > >the sons birth is the only entry i can find notheing else for this family > > >any suggestions greatfully recieved >cheers >denis edwards > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-request@rootsweb.com >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >of the message

    08/27/2011 11:48:29
    1. Louisa Cambry, Thank you
    2. Carol Kelsh
    3. Thank you to P.J.Lyon, Tina Davey, Bev. Walker, Pam S, and Lyn for the info that you all have sent me.Cheers,Carol, S.A.

    08/27/2011 11:27:03
    1. pearce - Brockenshire
    2. Denis Edwards
    3. Hi All , need some help Looking for a John Fowel Pearce born 1833 St AGNES Cornwall supposedly he died in april 1869 in Australia i find him as the father in eaglehawk victoria in a birth entry for a Fohn Fowel Pearce b1868 mother Mary Jane Brockenshire the sons birth is the only entry i can find notheing else for this family any suggestions greatfully recieved cheers denis edwards

    08/27/2011 10:59:44
    1. Louisa Cambry
    2. Carol Kelsh
    3. Hi Everyone,I am Looking for info on Louisa Marian Cambry b 1875 Melbourne. Her parents were Edward/Edwin Cambray and Louisa Marion Edwards. I would like to know if she married , Children if any, and deaths of louisa and husband ? Thank you,Carol, S.A.

    08/27/2011 09:07:13
    1. Re: coach painter
    2. Kenneth Clark
    3. G'Day Brian Coach Painters were still operating for such vehicles as horse drawn Bakers Carts and Dairy Floats into the early 1950s when such items were still being home delivered Regards Kenneth Clark essage----- From: Anne Young Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 6:48 PM To: aus-vic-goldfields@rootsweb.com ; bkcockerall@bigpond.com Subject: Re: coach painter Hi Brian You can look at pictures of coaches that were about in 1915 through the National Library's Trove service using for example the following search: http://trove.nla.gov.au/picture/result?q=coach&l-decade=191&l-year=1915 Examples of pictures that come up are: . Willunga Royal Mail Coach at http://images.slsa.sa.gov.au/mpcimg/55500/B55417_246.htm . A coach at Kenilworth in Queensland in 1915 https://sunshinecoast.spydus.com/cgi-bin/spydus.exe/FULL/PIC/BIBENQ/5557648/537946,1?FMT=IMG&IMGNUM=1 . Coach and horses and a motor bus with passengers in Victoria http://www.slv.vic.gov.au/pictoria/gid/slv-pic-aab86999/1/b12252 Your uncle perhaps might have moved from horse drawn coaches to the newer motor buses but perhaps what also prompted his enlistment was reduced employment prospects as well as enthusiasm for the empire's cause. Regards Anne -- Anne Young ABN: 16 398 824 678 Web page: *Anne Young's research service<http://sites.google.com/site/anneyoungsresearchservice/> * Member: Association of Professional Genealogists <http://www.apgen.org/directory/search_detail.html?mbr_id=4518> On 20 August 2011 17:00, <aus-vic-goldfields-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Brian & Karlene Cockerall" <bkcockerall@bigpond.com> > To: <aus-vic-goldfields@rootsweb.com> > Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 19:13:53 +1000 > Subject: Coach Painter > Hi Listers, > I have an uncle who enlisted in the AIF in 1915 and gave his occupation as > Coach Painter. Can anyone tell me what type of coaches a coach painter > painted in 1914 or so? > Many Thanks, > Brian Cockerall > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/25/2011 06:18:02
    1. Re: coach painter
    2. Anne Young
    3. Hi Brian You can look at pictures of coaches that were about in 1915 through the National Library's Trove service using for example the following search: http://trove.nla.gov.au/picture/result?q=coach&l-decade=191&l-year=1915 Examples of pictures that come up are: . Willunga Royal Mail Coach at http://images.slsa.sa.gov.au/mpcimg/55500/B55417_246.htm . A coach at Kenilworth in Queensland in 1915 https://sunshinecoast.spydus.com/cgi-bin/spydus.exe/FULL/PIC/BIBENQ/5557648/537946,1?FMT=IMG&IMGNUM=1 . Coach and horses and a motor bus with passengers in Victoria http://www.slv.vic.gov.au/pictoria/gid/slv-pic-aab86999/1/b12252 Your uncle perhaps might have moved from horse drawn coaches to the newer motor buses but perhaps what also prompted his enlistment was reduced employment prospects as well as enthusiasm for the empire's cause. Regards Anne -- Anne Young ABN: 16 398 824 678 Web page: *Anne Young's research service<http://sites.google.com/site/anneyoungsresearchservice/> * Member: Association of Professional Genealogists <http://www.apgen.org/directory/search_detail.html?mbr_id=4518> On 20 August 2011 17:00, <aus-vic-goldfields-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Brian & Karlene Cockerall" <bkcockerall@bigpond.com> > To: <aus-vic-goldfields@rootsweb.com> > Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 19:13:53 +1000 > Subject: Coach Painter > Hi Listers, > I have an uncle who enlisted in the AIF in 1915 and gave his occupation as > Coach Painter. Can anyone tell me what type of coaches a coach painter > painted in 1914 or so? > Many Thanks, > Brian Cockerall > >

    08/24/2011 12:48:36
    1. Tainsh and Stevens
    2. ChristineA
    3. ustralia

    08/23/2011 09:41:06
    1. RE: The ship "James Brown"
    2. O'Connors
    3. Hi Bob, I had descendants William & Elizabeth McPherson on this voyage, the ship arrived 5/1/53 in Geelong. Gail. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Beard [mailto:wtfcih69@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, 22 August 2011 1:56 PM To: aus-vic-goldfields@rootsweb.com Subject: The ship "James Brown" Hi Listers Anybody in Gene land have a rellie who arrived on the "James Brown" which left Liverpool, 16 Sept. 1852, so possibly arriving at Geelong Dec. 1852 Many ThanksBob

    08/22/2011 12:11:47
    1. The ship "James Brown"
    2. Robert Beard
    3. Hi Listers Anybody in Gene land have a rellie who arrived on the "James Brown" which left Liverpool, 16 Sept. 1852, so possibly arriving at Geelong Dec. 1852 Many ThanksBob

    08/22/2011 08:26:10
    1. Coach Painter
    2. Brian & Karlene Cockerall
    3. Hi Listers, I have an uncle who enlisted in the AIF in 1915 and gave his occupation as Coach Painter. Can anyone tell me what type of coaches a coach painter painted in 1914 or so? Many Thanks, Brian Cockerall

    08/19/2011 01:13:53
    1. RE: Charles Edward KELLY Marriage
    2. Lyn Craig
    3. Hello Judi I found a Victorian Marriage registration for Isabella Marr Gilmore to Edward Charles Kelly 1898 Vic. Reg # 5609 which can be ordered on line: https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/home Also if you have a subscription to or can access Ancestry you will find that there is someone researching this family. Ancestry Public Member trees Kelly, Burke, van Prooyen, Lauritz Family Tree Family Tree Owner: JLawrence63 You will be able to email them direct through Ancestry. Regards Lyn -----Original Message----- From: aus-vic-goldfields-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-vic-goldfields-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Judi Wheatley Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 3:50 PM To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS@rootsweb.com Subject: Charles Edward KELLY Marriage Hello everyone I'm looking for a Marriage of Charles Edward KELLY born c1878 Glenlyon parents James KELLY and Mary Jane OGDEN. I do know he married Lillian Elizabeth CRAWFORD in Western Australia in 1934, at that point he was 56. (no mention of a previous marriage on his marriage certificate) I have found an article on Trove WA mentioning that in 1926 he was married, but no mention of a wife's name. If someone would please be able to check for a marriage pre 1926 in Victoria, I'd be very gratefull. Many thanks Judi WA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/19/2011 11:07:50
    1. Charles Edward KELLY Marriage
    2. Judi Wheatley
    3. Hello everyone I'm looking for a Marriage of Charles Edward KELLY born c1878 Glenlyon parents James KELLY and Mary Jane OGDEN. I do know he married Lillian Elizabeth CRAWFORD in Western Australia in 1934, at that point he was 56. (no mention of a previous marriage on his marriage certificate) I have found an article on Trove WA mentioning that in 1926 he was married, but no mention of a wife's name. If someone would please be able to check for a marriage pre 1926 in Victoria, I'd be very gratefull. Many thanks Judi WA

    08/19/2011 07:49:37
    1. Did he find gold ??
    2. MargM
    3. Hi List Edwin Reuben & Margaret CARPENTER lived in Ballarat between 1856 -1859 . They had a daughter, Alice Leslie b there 22 Aug 1856 to after 23 Oct 1858 when a 2nd daughter, Amelia Jane was born. On both certs E Reuben's occupation states farmer ???. By 1861 they were up in Rockhampton and between 1862 - 1864 E Reuben spent 300 pounds buying 3 blocks of land Did he make a motzer as a farmer or find gold in Ballarat ????????????? Only ref in the Ballarat paper " The Star" just records him as a rate payer 13 Dec 1856 Ideas most welcome on how to find out ? Many thanks Bye MargM Beautiful NSW Central Coast

    08/15/2011 07:42:12
    1. Websters of Epsom, Huntly, Neilborough
    2. colin hollow
    3. Hi I hoping to find someone who is related to or reasearching a family of Websters that ran gold crushing enterprises and mined in the Epsom, Huntly and Neilborough (Elysian Flat) area from 1857 to early 1900s. My direct relative is Arthur Webster (1823 - 1910), he was married to Janet Heatherwick(1831 - 1907). They had a family of nine children, Janet, Jane, James, Margaret, Mary, Elizabeth, Agnes, Arthur and Isabella. He also had three brothers that he worked with, Alexander (1824 - 1896), James (1826 - 1896) and John (1829 - 1871). Brother John and many of the children had large families so I hoping for some success. Regards Colin Hollow

    08/13/2011 10:55:35
    1. First Nugget Hotel
    2. Anne Young
    3. In response to Penelope who asked: Can anyone tell me where the First Nugget Inn may have been. Trying to trace Elizabeth Jane Milligan. She lived in SA, NSW and the Victoria, dying in Mildura in 1915 Bathurst Free Press and Mining Journal (NSW : 1851 - 1904) Monday 18 June 1894 p 2 Article Licensing Court. Monday, June 18th 1894. (Before the P.M. and Dr. W. F. Bassett JP.) APPLICATION UNDER SECTION 11. Elizabeth Jane Milligan, First Nugget Inn.' In 1897, the First Nugget Inn was in William Street Bathurst according to an advertisement from http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/62041185 Trove has a couple of other advertisements for the Inn / Hotel Regards Anne -- Anne Young

    08/12/2011 11:37:20
    1. First Nugget Hotel
    2. Penelope Shorne
    3. HI, Can anyone tell me where the First Nugget Inn may have been. Trying to trace Elizabeth Jane Milligan. She lived in SA, NSW and the Victoria, dying in Mildura in 1915 Bathurst Free Press and Mining Journal (NSW : 1851 - 1904) Monday 18 June 1894 p 2 Article Licensing Court. Monday, June 18th 1894. (Before the P.M. and Dr. W. F. Bassett JP.) APPLICATION UNDER SECTION 11. Elizabeth Jane Milligan, First Nugget Inn.' Thanks, Penelope

    08/12/2011 09:55:07
    1. RE: Watta Hospital
    2. lone&Bill White
    3. Thanks Shelly and all thee others that have contributed. This gives a good overview Bill from Cairns. -----Original Message----- From: Shelley Chambers [mailto:shelley1980@dodo.com.au] Sent: Saturday, 6 August 2011 3:56 PM To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com Cc: lone&Bill White Subject: Re: Watta Hospital Importance: High Hi Bill, I think you might mean Rutherglen not Raglan (with abbreviation RGLEN). Rutherglen is about 40km or 34mins from Wangaratta. The Annie Kelly who died at Wangaratta Hospital was buried 21/02/1902 and was from Rutherglen and is buried in the Roman Catholic Section with no headstone. >From Wangaratta Cemetery CD: Kelly, Annie. Age 20; Buried 21 February 1902; Resided Rutherglen; Section Roman Catholic No. 1; Plot 31 C Surname: KELLY Given Names: Aileen Annie Event: B Sex: F Spouse Surname/Father: Patk Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Annie OCONNOR Age: Age Code: Birth Place: RGLEN Death Place: Year: 1902 Reg. Number: 5792 Surname: KELLY Given Names: Annie Event: D Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Unknown Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Unknown UNKNOWN Age: 20 Age Code: Birth Place: Death Place: Watta Hosp Year: 1902 Reg. Number: 3717 Surname: OCONNOR Given Names: Annie Event: M Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: KELLY Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Patk Age: Age Code: Birth Place: VIC Death Place: Year: 1901 Reg. Number: 3076 Surname: KELLY Given Names: Pat Event: M Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: OCONNOR Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Annie Age: Age Code: Birth Place: VIC Death Place: Year: 1901 Reg. Number: 3076 I hope this helps. Regards Shelley ----- Original Message ----- From: "lone&Bill White" <lone@tpg.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 3:45 PM Subject: Watta Hospital > Hi Listers > > I have an ancestor - Annie KELLY (nee O'CONNER), Registration no 3717 - > who > was living in the Ararat mining area and gave birth to a baby in Raglan, > 1902 who survived. She is listed in dying at "Watta Hospital" in Victoria > , > 1902. > > > > A "Watta Hospital" cannot be located was wondering if this could be a > shortening of Wangaratta Hospital which was open from 1872 to 1975. > > > > Appreciate any thoughts from listers. > > Regards > > Bill from Cairns > > >

    08/08/2011 03:33:28