When my computer died a couple of weeks ago, I lost a lot of emails and all my address book. Now that the offending video card has been replaced at great expense, could I ask those people who asked for a copy of my CARWARDINE notes to let me have their names and addresses again please? I am ready to send material that I have processed to date. Trevor

This is an obituary for an important citizen of Bendigo, and one of those in my 'tree'. It is also of interest to new member, Julia in the US. Trevor Obituary in the ³Geelong Advertiser² Tuesday 1st. August 1933 Page 5, Column 4 MR. EDWARD THOMAS DEAD. PROMINENT CHURCHMAN. Building Society ounder. By the death of Mr. Edward Thomas at his home in Mackenzie Street yesterday morning, there has been removed a highly respected citizen of Bendigo, who played a worthy part in many spheres of public life. For some time the late Mr. Thomas, who was 74 years of age, had been in failing health. A native of Clunes, Mr Thomas came to Bendigo 37 years ago, and found employment as an insurance agent. Later he established the Bendigo and Eaglehawk Starr Bowket Building Society, now the Bendigo and Eaglehawk Star Permanent Building Society. He was secretary of that institution from its establishment until his retirement in 1927, since when he has occupied the position of director. Much of the success of the society is due to his conscientious and able direction. For many years Mr, Thomas was associated with the Methodist Church. He was a fully accredited local preacher at the time of his arrival in Bendigo , and ministered in this way for more than 56 years. In 1907 he occupied the position of president of the Victorian Local Preachers¹ Association and at the time of his death he was the senior local preacher of Bendigo Methodist Circuit. From 1909 to 1824 he was a trustee of the Forest Street Methodist Church, and was for many years a visitor of the Sunday School Union. The office of Treasurer of the Bendigo Rescue Home was held by him for many years, and he also discharged the duties of honorary auditor for the Bendigo Benevolent Asylum. He displayed an interest in the prohibition movement, and was closely connected with temperance organizations. He was a past master of the Golden and Corinthian Masonic Lodge and was worshipful master of the Corona Lodge in 1916-17. Mr. Thomas is survived by a widow, two sons and three daughters, all of whom are well known. The sons are Mr. Henry Thomas, of Malvern, who is widely known as a vocalist, and Mr, Edward T. Thomas, of Bendigo, who succeeded his father as secretary of the Bendigo and Eaglehawk Star Permanent Building Society. The daughters are Mrs. W. Ellis, of Parkdale; Mrs J. S. Wilson, of Bendigo; and Mrs. W. Brown, of Adelaide. The funeral will take place in Bendigo Cemetery at 10 o¹clock this morning. (Acknowledgement: Corinne Thompson)

I would like to thank everyone who replied to my enquiry about the location of Yalbrook. The consensus seems to be that the place I am looking for is actually Yallook. I have had another look at the handwritten sources that led to my original post. They are quite unambiguously *Yalbrook*. There is no possibility that the letters are confused or that they are a badly written version of Yallook. The letters l, b and r are clear and quite distinct from each other. Despite this, I think that listers who offered Yallook as the place in question are probably right. Contextually, it makes sense. The source material is from an adult man of 37 years, who is recording his birth place on official documents. I don't expect that he would remember the place or the event, even though he was present at his birth! Because he was exceptionally young when the death of his mother meant that the family was dispersed, it could be that he saw Yallook somewhere and misread it as Yalbrook..... or something similar. Thanks to all! Trevor

Thanks Pauline The Java software did the trick and I can access the side links at last. Amazing that I've not had a problem with any other site through lack of this software! Beth Codling bcodling2@bigpond.com -----Original Message----- From: Pauline/Fiona [mailto:rommel@relax.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, 26 July 2005 8:24 PM To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Bendigo cemetery records Hi I queried the problem of missing links with the BCT and was told I needed to download a small java program which would then make the links work and once I had downloaded and installed the small program I was able to access the search part of this site without a problem. This is the program I downloaded. I have no contact with these people and am simply saying it worked for me. regards Pauline Version 1.5.0 (build 1.5.0_02-b09) Copyright 2004 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights reserved. Use is subject to license terms. For more information about Java technology and to explore great Java applications, visit http://www.java.com ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== Victorian place names database http://www.rootsweb.com/~auswgw/vic_place_names.htm

Hi Trevor and listers, the place is possibly Yallook; once a small faming community 15kms north of Raywood and about 5 kms from Dingee. Yallook used to have a primary school, a post office and at least two churches. I believe the school closed down about 50 years ago. Marg Watson. ----- Original Message ----- From: Trevor <tjwilliams@iinet.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 4:43 PM Subject: Where is Yalbrook? > I have an 1880 birth occurring in a place called YALBROOK. Does anyone > know where this is? > The Victorian Birth Indexes give RAYWOOD as the place of birth but the > man himself gives his birth place as YALBOOK when he enlists for WW 1. > > I know that his father was farming in the Raywood area at one stage, and > that siblings were born in Bendigo, Dunolly and Mitiamo. > > Google doesn't turn up anything, and there is no post code for YAMBROOK. > > Any comments? > > Trevor > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this mailing list send the word 'unsubscribe' in > the body of a message to AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L-request@rootsweb.com

I have an 1880 birth occurring in a place called YALBROOK. Does anyone know where this is? The Victorian Birth Indexes give RAYWOOD as the place of birth but the man himself gives his birth place as YALBOOK when he enlists for WW 1. I know that his father was farming in the Raywood area at one stage, and that siblings were born in Bendigo, Dunolly and Mitiamo. Google doesn't turn up anything, and there is no post code for YAMBROOK. Any comments? Trevor

Hello Elaine, There are a couple of places that this could be an abbreviation for such as CoolaROO (NW of Melbourne), CROOkyan and CROOked River (both in Gippsland). At that time most of the registration were done in batches and I see the next registrations after your Anderson were done at TALB which would be either Talbot or Talbotville. Crooked River and Talbotville are only a few miles apart and were sites gold discoveries in the 1860s, so my guess is you are looking for Crooked River. Both are deserted now. Nearest town is Dargo. Cheers Peter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Hi Thank you to Judy and Trish for details about the ANDERSE(O)N family >in the1860's. >One birth is shown as registered at CROO. >Is this a local place or a shortened form of another name? >Any help much appreciated >regards >Elaine in NZ

Hellol All, responding to the recent thread on the above Tom and Libby Luke,<tomluke@optusnet.com.au> are currently putting together a CD of the Bendigo cemeteries. I suggest an email to them. Regards, George. _________________________________________________________________ Your opinion counts..for your chance to win a Mini Cooper click here http://www.qualifiedopinions.com/joinup.php?source=hotmail

Hi Thank you to Judy and Trish for details about the ANDERSE(O)N family in the1860's. One birth is shown as registered at CROO. Is this a local place or a shortened form of another name? Any help much appreciated regards Elaine in NZ

Hello listers, Is there anyome on the list researching the name REYNOLDS. William REYNOLDS, born Kilmore, Vic. moved to Culcairn in Southern New South Wales, where he died in 1971. William was my grandfather`s half brother. I would be very interested in hearing from anyone who may be researching William`s family line. Norm.

The problem with the BCT site (leaving aside cookies and Java) is that it says very little. In fact, it is pretty well impossible to figure out much except that so-many people of surname xxxxxx are buried there. Few dates, not much to fly by. Before you splurge your $12, it would be useful to think that you might get the info you require. It would be a great asset if BCT could finish the work on this site. Paul Blair

Hello All I am able to access the site but the information displayed lacks a lot of detail. I searched for John McMahon and it displayed 9 entries, 1 of which I could safely disgard. That left me with 8 entries, and therefore an outlay of up to $96.00 depending on which one of the 8 was the one I required. I just hope that in future there will a more economical way of searching and displaying the database. Regards Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline/Fiona" <rommel@relax.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:24 PM Subject: Re: Bendigo cemetery records > Hi > > I queried the problem of missing links with the BCT and was told I needed > to download a small java program which would then make the links work and > once I had downloaded and installed the small program I was able to access > the search part of this site without a problem. > > This is the program I downloaded. I have no contact with these people and > am simply saying it worked for me. > regards > Pauline > > Version 1.5.0 (build 1.5.0_02-b09) > Copyright 2004 Sun Microsystems, Inc. > All rights reserved. Use is subject to license terms. > For more information about Java technology and to explore great Java > applications, visit http://www.java.com > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > Victorian place names database > http://www.rootsweb.com/~auswgw/vic_place_names.htm >

Dear Sir/Madam, I am writing to you as a concerned family historian and member of the Victorian Goldfields Mailing List (Rootsweb.com). The Bendigo Cemeteries Trust website has become a main point of discussion over the past couple of weeks on the Goldfields list after one of our members had trouble accessing same. It turned out to be a java problem, but it raised a question about searching in general. Quite a number of us have searched the BCT site for information on our ancestors, only to find there isn't really much to find! When I searched my maiden name of "Bynon" I find quite a few entries, but other than names, there's nothing else to identify them. While I'm quite happy to pay money on something that will be of use to me, I'm not happy to spend money on something that may well turn out to be useless and not related to my ancestors at all! :( Another list member stated that he "searched for John McMahon and it displayed 9 entries, 1 of which I could safely disgard. That left me with 8 entries, and therefore an outlay of up to $96.00 depending on which one of the 8 was the one I required." This situation is far from satisfactory, particularly as it would only cost us $12 if you gave us more detail in search results. I have the microfiche for Bendigo Cemetery but my fiche reader doesn't work, otherwise I wouldn't have to pay a cent! What we would all like to know is, are you prepared to provide enough information on each individual in your search results so that we may narrow down our searches to reduce our expenditure? Someone pointed out that since this information has been given to you freely, you shouldn't be charging at all (Fawkner Crematorium and Memorial Park don't and I'm sure many others don't either) but I won't get into an argument over that point! ;) Another concern for me personally is that I live in Germany and have an American bank account. For me to submit just one enquiry form, it would not only cost me the $12 enquiry fee, but it would also cost me an additional $15 for an International Money Order and take weeks for the information to get back to me. I find that $27 is totally unacceptable no matter how high your income is. In this day and age, I also think it would be a reasonable request that you provide credit card payment facilities to enable those, like me, who live overseas with the opportunity to save themselves the $15 IMO fees. Then again, I also feel you shouldn't be charging, that the "basic" burial information should be provided free of charge! If the Trust would see our side of this problem and provide enough information on each individual searched for to enable us NOT to spend the family fortune in obtaining information, I think you'll find the Trust will actually start to make more money from this venture. If you had death dates, it would make it much easier to find our ancestors. For instance, you have 2 Arthur Bynon entries. I have 2 Arthur Bynon entries in my tree, however, only one of them was buried at Bendigo as far as I know. You have an Arthur William; I have an Arthur William George, but mine died in Richmond. If you had a death date next to YOUR Arthur William, I could ascertain whether or not MY Arthur William died in Richmond but was buried in Bendigo with his parents. Until I have enough information to pinpoint my ancestors, I'm not prepared to pay $27 to lodge an enquiry form! :( Another valid question is, what exactly do we get for our $12? Do we only get the date of death and burial? It would be great if the Trust could also indicate very clearly on the website exactly what our money is buying. With all the issues the BCT website is raising, I personally will not be applying for any enquiries and I certainly won't be recommending any of my fellow list members do either. Basically, I find the site rather disappointing and hope the Trust will rectify the "problems" within the site as a matter of urgency so that we may actually start to make decent use of it! Sincerely, Robyn J.J. Leeds. Stuttgart, Germany. IBSSG Honey's Home of Genealogy www.honeyshome.com

Hi I queried the problem of missing links with the BCT and was told I needed to download a small java program which would then make the links work and once I had downloaded and installed the small program I was able to access the search part of this site without a problem. This is the program I downloaded. I have no contact with these people and am simply saying it worked for me. regards Pauline Version 1.5.0 (build 1.5.0_02-b09) Copyright 2004 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights reserved. Use is subject to license terms. For more information about Java technology and to explore great Java applications, visit http://www.java.com

Thanks everyone for the advice, my security settings are set at high so that's probably the problem. Lyn >-- Original Message -- >From: "Robyn Leeds" <honey@honeyshome.com> >Subject: Re: New Cemetery, Melbourne? / THOMAS & SPITTLEHOUSE. >Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:02:55 +0200 >To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com > > >"many web sites plant little darlings called Cookies into your Computer when >you visit their website." > >Hi Ron, Beth and Lyn :) > >I've been to the Bendigo Cemetery Trust site, if this is the one you're talking >about, and I could view it just fine. I'm using Firefox and my internet >settings are set to medium with primary cookies allowed, third party cookie >requests are to prompt me for a response. > >I've been chatting to Paul offline about this site since my post about the >site in general. It seems the site itself runs fine, but there's very little >information on it. I can attest to that; I just did a search for "BYNON" >and got quite a few hits with nothing material contained in the results other >than an internment number and a request for $12 per enquiry form!!! Outrageously >expensive if you ask me, and not enough details to warrant spending that >much money on something that could possibly not even be one of my ancestors! > >I'm going to email them and see if there are plans to improve their website >and also to recommend they either include more information or reduce their >price by at least half. It seems to me that in this day and age they could >also have this payable online using a credit card or Paypal, especially since >there are so many of us living overseas who, like me, are not prepared to >pay the $15 fee for an international money order just to get a cheque for >$12. Even with the exchange rate being in my favour, that's still $27 for >a $12 enquiry!! :( > >Oooops! that ended up longer than I hoped, sorry! If you're using Internet >Explorer and the site isn't working, try Firefox and ensure you have Java >installed on your computer. If you're still having problems, email me offlist >(or Ron? since he seems to know a lot about computers too) and I'll try and >help you with your browser settings! :D > >Take care, > >Rob. > > >==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== >Do NOT send virus warnings <- considered off-topic. >

Hi Try http://www.bencemtrust.com.au for the Bendigo Cemetery then go to the BCT Database all the gaps are not there but with digger you should be able to piece to gether the one that you want, I think the trust has it there so as you would write and pay for the rest. i suppose everything can't be for nothing. Bendigo Cemetery records are going on the A.I.G.S inc Bendigo branch computer also the Bendigo Libary will have it on theirs a seperate project and are at the end of it soon just a matter of weeks did that help you, or was that clear as mud by Kath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor" <tjwilliams@iinet.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 5:32 PM Subject: Re: New Cemetery, Melbourne? / THOMAS & SPITTLEHOUSE. > Alice Norton wrote: > > > > > or try Australian cemeteries > > http://www.ozgenonline.com/aust_cemeteries/vic/vicsec1.htm > > > Our new member, Julia, will find that at least one of her line is buried > in the Bendigo Cemetery if she follows the above link. Edward Travis > THOMAS, son of Henry and Sarah Anne nee SPITTLEHOUSE is buried there. > Interment number is 046421. > > I know that there are others, but will write separately to Julia. > > Trevor > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > Practice good internet genealogy - always be polite plus say 'thank you' > >

Dear Lyn and Beth If I may offer a suggestion - many web sites plant little darlings called Cookies into your Computer when you visit their website. These cookies range in effect from simple identification cookies that can identify you to the specific website and will give the webmaster an indication of who is visiting and how often ranging up to a full on tracking Cookie that will track your every movement on the WWW and report back what sites you have visited and when etc etc, Fortunately the latter are not that common but the shall we say "Visiting" Cookies are and many web sites will not allow you full access or even in some cases access at all unless you allow them to set a Cookie into your PC. Both you and Beth have probably got your security settings either in your Web Browser (probably) or Firewall or Anti Virus Software (or all 3!) set high and your Browser is not allowing the Cookie to be set thus you are not permitted to partake of all the site has to offer. I can only suggest that you drop your Web Browser security settings sufficiently to allow the cookie to be set and you will probably be allowed to enter fully. If you decide to drop your security settings I suggest that you do so for the one off visit and reset back to the higher setting once you have finished. That way your privacy is not compromised any more than necessary and your protection when surfing to other websites is not exposing you to more nasties. For Internet Explorer go to Tools then Internet Options then to Privacy and move the slider control down a notch then try the website again. Keep doing this - dropping down a level each time until you gain entry then as I say - reset back up again immediately after your visit and before you go to another website. I cannot guarantee this is your problem or that my solution will work as there are many causes of Web Page access failure but Security Settings are probably the most frequent cause. The other main cause is incompatibility between the software used to create the Webpage and your Browser type and version. For example if the page is created using Microsoft FrontPage and you are trying to access the website using Netscape then this too will often create access conflicts. In this case there is not much you can do other than to succumb to the Microsoft juggernaut and install the latest version of Internet Explorer as both IE and FrontPage would be amongst the most common Browsers and Page building software around thus are the most compatible. Hope this helps Cheers Ron Phillips Melbourne Vic Researching PHILLIPS and COMERFORD ----- Original Message ----- From: <klaush@iprimus.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 7:18 PM Subject: RE: New Cemetery, Melbourne? / THOMAS & SPITTLEHOUSE. > You are not alone, Beth, it won't work for me either. Like you I can only > get the front page with a x in all the links. > Lyn >>-- Original Message -- >>From: "Beth Codling" <bcodling2@bigpond.com> >>Subject: RE: New Cemetery, Melbourne? / THOMAS & SPITTLEHOUSE. >>Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:02:34 +1000 >>To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com >> >> >>Hi Trevor and all >> >>I was interested to see that the Bendigo cemetery link works for someone >>because although I get to the opening site window, all the links/pics on >>the >>left panel, appear not to be working. I reported this to the Cemetery >>contact months ago and I still have the same problem. Is it just me? >> >>Beth Codling >>bcodling2@bigpond.com >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Trevor [mailto:tjwilliams@iinet.net.au] >>Sent: Monday, 25 July 2005 5:32 PM >>To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: Re: New Cemetery, Melbourne? / THOMAS & SPITTLEHOUSE. >> >>Alice Norton wrote: >> >>> >>> or try Australian cemeteries >>> http://www.ozgenonline.com/aust_cemeteries/vic/vicsec1.htm >> >> >>Our new member, Julia, will find that at least one of her line is buried >> >>in the Bendigo Cemetery if she follows the above link. Edward Travis >>THOMAS, son of Henry and Sarah Anne nee SPITTLEHOUSE is buried there. >>Interment number is 046421. >> >>I know that there are others, but will write separately to Julia. >> >>Trevor >> >> >>==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== >>Practice good internet genealogy - always be polite plus say 'thank you' >> >> >>==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== >>Practice good internet genealogy - always be polite plus say 'thank you' >> > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > The mailing list for the golden triangle of Ballarat, Bendigo and > Maryborough VICTORIA >

In response to another thread, I'll pass along what (little) I know of the Bendigo cemetery site. I rang BCT one day, and was told that the project had been done by a local school/college/uni (I forget which) as a community project. Sadly, it was never finished and it seemed likely that it would remain that way. I suggested that they take the site down, but they didn't like that idea. So there it sits - incomplete and possibly broken, hence the missing graphics. Any takers to go on with the project? Paul Blair Canberra

You are not alone, Beth, it won't work for me either. Like you I can only get the front page with a x in all the links. Lyn >-- Original Message -- >From: "Beth Codling" <bcodling2@bigpond.com> >Subject: RE: New Cemetery, Melbourne? / THOMAS & SPITTLEHOUSE. >Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:02:34 +1000 >To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com > > >Hi Trevor and all > >I was interested to see that the Bendigo cemetery link works for someone >because although I get to the opening site window, all the links/pics on >the >left panel, appear not to be working. I reported this to the Cemetery >contact months ago and I still have the same problem. Is it just me? > >Beth Codling >bcodling2@bigpond.com > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Trevor [mailto:tjwilliams@iinet.net.au] >Sent: Monday, 25 July 2005 5:32 PM >To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: New Cemetery, Melbourne? / THOMAS & SPITTLEHOUSE. > >Alice Norton wrote: > >> >> or try Australian cemeteries >> http://www.ozgenonline.com/aust_cemeteries/vic/vicsec1.htm > > >Our new member, Julia, will find that at least one of her line is buried > >in the Bendigo Cemetery if she follows the above link. Edward Travis >THOMAS, son of Henry and Sarah Anne nee SPITTLEHOUSE is buried there. >Interment number is 046421. > >I know that there are others, but will write separately to Julia. > >Trevor > > >==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== >Practice good internet genealogy - always be polite plus say 'thank you' > > >==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== >Practice good internet genealogy - always be polite plus say 'thank you' >

Hi Trevor and all I was interested to see that the Bendigo cemetery link works for someone because although I get to the opening site window, all the links/pics on the left panel, appear not to be working. I reported this to the Cemetery contact months ago and I still have the same problem. Is it just me? Beth Codling bcodling2@bigpond.com -----Original Message----- From: Trevor [mailto:tjwilliams@iinet.net.au] Sent: Monday, 25 July 2005 5:32 PM To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: New Cemetery, Melbourne? / THOMAS & SPITTLEHOUSE. Alice Norton wrote: > > or try Australian cemeteries > http://www.ozgenonline.com/aust_cemeteries/vic/vicsec1.htm Our new member, Julia, will find that at least one of her line is buried in the Bendigo Cemetery if she follows the above link. Edward Travis THOMAS, son of Henry and Sarah Anne nee SPITTLEHOUSE is buried there. Interment number is 046421. I know that there are others, but will write separately to Julia. Trevor ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== Practice good internet genealogy - always be polite plus say 'thank you'