Very big thank you to those who sent me Clarke information. I now have the shipping record. They came in on the Naval Reserve in 1864. This was proven by a death of a Catherine Clarke who was on that ship age 1 and then died in 1888 age 26, father Philip Clarke and Mother Mary Coil. This then tied in with the other birth enteries starting in 1864 of other children to Philip Clarke and Mary Coil. Wow what a terrific list. So appreciative of your efforts. I will go away now and enter the data for this family. I am now missing the death entry of Philip Clarke born approx 1842 any hints??. Warm regards Gay -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/91 - Release Date: 6/09/2005

Is there sks who could would be willing to lookup a death notice in the Bendigo Newspaper for William O'Brien who died 2nd June 1936 Bendigo Hospital Many Thanks Pam Holmes

Hi Gay, re your Clarkes entry into Australia. Have you checked out from the following data base at: http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/ Unassisted Immigration to Victoria Index of Inward Passenger Lists for British, Foreign and New Zealand Ports 1852-1923 CLARK PHILIP 22 MAR 1864 NAVAL RESERVE B 230 002 CLARK PHILIP MRS 20 MAR 1864 NAVAL RESERVE B 230 002 There are also other Clark(s) on this voyage including some children, and it would be worth pursuing this lead. If you knew the exact date of the first born child at Raglan near Beaufort in Victoria it would help confirm or otherwise whether this was them on the ship 'Naval Reserve'. regards, Peter Matthews Gay O'Neill wrote: > Thanks to Gayleene for her swift reply on the Clarke family. > Still looking for the entry to Australia of Philip Clarke and his wife > Mary Coyle. I am assuming they may have been born in the late 1840's > to early 1850's as Mary Coyle/Clarke was having babies from 1864 - > 1883. > Their first baby was born RAGL - what would that stand for? > Thanks for any information > Gay O'Neill > in not so sunny in fact very wet WA. > >

Thanks to Gayleene for her swift reply on the Clarke family. Still looking for the entry to Australia of Philip Clarke and his wife Mary Coyle. I am assuming they may have been born in the late 1840's to early 1850's as Mary Coyle/Clarke was having babies from 1864 - 1883. Their first baby was born RAGL - what would that stand for? Thanks for any information Gay O'Neill in not so sunny in fact very wet WA. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/90 - Release Date: 5/09/2005

Dear listers, i am wondering if anyone would be able to tell me more about the Clarke family I am looking for the children of Phillip Clarke and Mary Coir or Coyle. I do know that they had CLARKE, Elizth CB 360857 Birth Father: Phillip Mother: Coyle Mary Event Place: Bungaree Reg Year: 1880 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 20756 CLARKE, James CB 362003 Birth Father: Phillip Mother: Coyle Mary Event Place: Bung Reg Year: 1883 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 7356 I am wondering if there is any more information on sibblings on the Digger cds. They had a son John Richard Clarke born 1873 in Bungaree, Victoria but I have not seen the entry myself for that. I have also not been able to find Philip Clarkes entry to the country on the passenger lists. Any help will be greatfully received. Gay O'Neill Western Australia -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/90 - Release Date: 5/09/2005

If it's any help Vicki, I have a Patrick Joseph MURPHY who died in Daylesford in 1951. He was the son of Patrick MURPHY and Margaret DYNON. He married Jane WISSING (nee HUNTER) in 1923 in Daylesford. Jenny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Matthews" <dryandra1@netspeed.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, 7 September 2005 7:07 Subject: Re: Murphy > Hi Vicki, I agree with Dave Evans - its most likely to be Berringa near > Ballarat. > > From the site for the company Ballarat Goildfields N/L at > http://www.ballarat-goldfields.com.au > you will find a map showing the location of Berringa. Also, the > following description of historic gold mining is of interest. > > "Historical mining at Berringa took place as early as 1855 when > miners worked a number of alluvial gold deposits. Alluvial gold > mining was the principal form of mining until 1865 when quartz > reefs were discovered. > A number of smaller quartz mines were worked from 1865 to 1898. > The majority of gold production from the field was between 1898 > and 1917, from five quartz mines, some of them reaching a depth > in excess of 1000 feet. Poor economic conditions and shortages > of labour brought about by the First World War forced the mines > to close. > The most recent mine to have operated in the field is the Berringa > mine. It was started in 1937 during the depression and was profitably > worked until 1952 when the cost of sinking the shaft deeper forced > the mine to close. The mine was then re-opened in 1956 for a couple > of years, and again in 1974 and 1980. > The recorded amount of gold produced by the mines was about > 300,000 ounces at an average grade of 8.2g/t (production from 1898 > to 1917)." > > Re John Murphy - this is a difficult line of research, and the following > is purely speculative and based on possible variations in spelling of > Berringa eg 'Burr', and the proximity to Ballarat where siblings were > born. All the references are Vic BDM and with the registration numbers > in brackets. > One possiblility: > 1. John Murphy - Margaret Lalor (or Lawler/Lawlor). They had the > following children: > * Mary Jane, b.1870 (21768), ' Burr' Berringa? > * Ann, d. 1875 (4751), Sebastopol, aged 6 months > * John, d. 1876 (5794), Ballarat, aged 7 years > * Catherine, b.1876 (16727), Happy Valley > * Mary Jane, d. 1876 (9135), Ballarat, aged 5 years > * Alice, b.1878 (3131), Happy Valley > * Arthur, b.1882 (16695), Happy Valley > * Mary, b.1885 (3084), Happy Valley > * Sarah, b.1888 (11975), Happy Valley > > Interestingly there is a John Murphy who married Julia Lalor (or > Lawler/Lawlor) in 1863 (1530). Julia died in 1920 (9883) in Daylesford > aged 81 years. Her parents wereWilliam Lalor and Margaret Delaney. > They had the following children. > * Patrick, b.1864 (15992), Smeaton. > * Thomas, b.1867 (23685), Mt Prospect. > * Catherine, b.1869 (24067), Mt Prospect. > * John, b.1872 (4429), Mt Prospect. > > What is not known is whether Julia and Margaret were related. > > I should add that I havent found a specific reference to a John Colvan > Murphy in the Victoria BDM. Perhaps he didnt use the middle name. > > Regards, Peter Matthews > > > Vicki Geard wrote: > > >Hi > >I am looking to help a friend chase her grandfather who arrived in the > >Goldfields from Ireland most likley around the 1860 period. His name was > >John Colvan Murphy and he had a son Harold Joseph Murphy born around 1883. > >That is about all she has to go on apart from the name "Buringa" or > >"Buringe", which I can't find on any google search so thought it may be an > >old mining town name. > >Hoping that these names may have popped up on someone's search or you may be > >able to point me in the right direction to help her, I am not familiar with > >Victorian research as most of mine have been in Tasmania or South Australia > >mining areas. > > > >Regards > > > >Vicki Geard > > > > > > > >==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > >Searchable archives at > >http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > Practice safe genealogy - don't include the personal details of the living. >

If anyone could help it would be great. I am trying to find out more information about my family. My ggrandfather came to Australia about 1853. His name was John O'Neill and he came from Limerick. His parents were John and Johannah Gearin or Guerin. I am hoping that is anyone is going to the PRO that they can look both the disposal and nominal lists. I am not even sure which boat he came on but I have a few possibilities.( I am going on his death certificate that says he was 30 years in Victoria). He died in 1883 at the age 60/62, he would have been about 30 when he arrived in Australia. Surname: ONEILL Given Names: JOHN Ship: LOCHLOMOND Month: APR Year: 1853 Age: 30 Code: B Fiche: 035 Page: 001 Surname: ONEILL Given Names: JOHN Ship: HELEN LINDSAY Month: JUL Year: 1853 Age: 29 Code: B Fiche: 044 Page: 005 Surname: ONEIL Given Names: JOHN Ship: BOTHNIA Month: JUN Year: 1853 Age: Code: F Fiche: 010 Page: 004 Surname: ONEIL Given Names: JOHN Ship: NEPAUL Month: OCT Year: 1852 Age: 27 Code: B Fiche: 013 Page: 007 HE also had a brother who arrived later, I'm not even sure this is the ship but the dates and age are good. Surname: ONEILL Given Names: CHARLES Ship: QUEEN OF THE EAST [II] Month: FEB Year: 1858 Age: 28 Code: B Fiche: 142 Page: 004 They both lived and died in Ballarat TIA Janis

Hi to you all on this List, I am looking for families with the above names in my tree Thomas Noakes FLOAT came to South Australia in 1838 from Kent but we have never been able to find his birth about 1785 married Martha CHITTENDEN Joseph SIMMONS came from Falmouth,Cornwall came to South Australia in 1848 married Elizabeth WATTS,some of the familiy names are CHAPMAN,PIERCE,PEARCE,LOWER, Samuel ADAMS from Melksham,Wiltshire was a convict that came to Tasmania in 1822 married Mary Ann MILLER this family then came to Daylesford,Victoria some of the familiy names are BELL,MURRAY,ROBINSON,CALVERT,STOUT, Harold Egby ROBINSON from Manchester,Lanc came to Australia in 1848??married my Great Grandmother Jane SIMMONS,SYMONS in South Australia in 1849 names with this family are SMITH,WARBURTON,NEWTON,DYMOND, VICKERY,SMITH,HUNTER,CHARTER John SMITH from ?????married Eliza SMITH nee FLOAT thier families names were ARBERY,DEVINE,ATTWELL/HATWELL,PUDNEY,SHRIVES,WILLIAMS,MOORE,MESSENGER, These are all my Great Great Grandparents Robert BULLOCK from Hackwold nr Brandon,Norfolk married Eliza Ann NEILD in 1866 at Dunolly,Victoria some of the family names are NICHOLLS, WATTS,ANDREWS,RAYMOND,BELZ,DUFFY,BRYSON Hoping that someone has some in there tree Cheers for now Alice

Hi Vicki, I agree with Dave Evans - its most likely to be Berringa near Ballarat. From the site for the company Ballarat Goildfields N/L at http://www.ballarat-goldfields.com.au you will find a map showing the location of Berringa. Also, the following description of historic gold mining is of interest. "Historical mining at Berringa took place as early as 1855 when miners worked a number of alluvial gold deposits. Alluvial gold mining was the principal form of mining until 1865 when quartz reefs were discovered. A number of smaller quartz mines were worked from 1865 to 1898. The majority of gold production from the field was between 1898 and 1917, from five quartz mines, some of them reaching a depth in excess of 1000 feet. Poor economic conditions and shortages of labour brought about by the First World War forced the mines to close. The most recent mine to have operated in the field is the Berringa mine. It was started in 1937 during the depression and was profitably worked until 1952 when the cost of sinking the shaft deeper forced the mine to close. The mine was then re-opened in 1956 for a couple of years, and again in 1974 and 1980. The recorded amount of gold produced by the mines was about 300,000 ounces at an average grade of 8.2g/t (production from 1898 to 1917)." Re John Murphy - this is a difficult line of research, and the following is purely speculative and based on possible variations in spelling of Berringa eg 'Burr', and the proximity to Ballarat where siblings were born. All the references are Vic BDM and with the registration numbers in brackets. One possiblility: 1. John Murphy - Margaret Lalor (or Lawler/Lawlor). They had the following children: * Mary Jane, b.1870 (21768), ' Burr' Berringa? * Ann, d. 1875 (4751), Sebastopol, aged 6 months * John, d. 1876 (5794), Ballarat, aged 7 years * Catherine, b.1876 (16727), Happy Valley * Mary Jane, d. 1876 (9135), Ballarat, aged 5 years * Alice, b.1878 (3131), Happy Valley * Arthur, b.1882 (16695), Happy Valley * Mary, b.1885 (3084), Happy Valley * Sarah, b.1888 (11975), Happy Valley Interestingly there is a John Murphy who married Julia Lalor (or Lawler/Lawlor) in 1863 (1530). Julia died in 1920 (9883) in Daylesford aged 81 years. Her parents wereWilliam Lalor and Margaret Delaney. They had the following children. * Patrick, b.1864 (15992), Smeaton. * Thomas, b.1867 (23685), Mt Prospect. * Catherine, b.1869 (24067), Mt Prospect. * John, b.1872 (4429), Mt Prospect. What is not known is whether Julia and Margaret were related. I should add that I havent found a specific reference to a John Colvan Murphy in the Victoria BDM. Perhaps he didnt use the middle name. Regards, Peter Matthews Vicki Geard wrote: >Hi >I am looking to help a friend chase her grandfather who arrived in the >Goldfields from Ireland most likley around the 1860 period. His name was >John Colvan Murphy and he had a son Harold Joseph Murphy born around 1883. >That is about all she has to go on apart from the name "Buringa" or >"Buringe", which I can't find on any google search so thought it may be an >old mining town name. >Hoping that these names may have popped up on someone's search or you may be >able to point me in the right direction to help her, I am not familiar with >Victorian research as most of mine have been in Tasmania or South Australia >mining areas. > >Regards > >Vicki Geard > > > >==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== >Searchable archives at >http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L > > > >

Sounds about right John, he was Welsh and he was sowing pasture grass for milking cows.The diary I have had translated was in Welsh and the word 'pypys' has no Welsh equivalent. Les -----Original Message----- From: John Holmes [mailto:jhaue@tpg.com.au] Sent: Monday, 5 September 2005 10:23 PM To: LesPitt; AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Any farmers out there? Pypys Grass LesPitt wrote: > In the 1874 diary I am working on are references to "pypys grass", he > buys the seed and sows it. > I have been unable to find what it is, anyone have any clues? I have > googled it to no avail. "Pypys" is an old (time of Chaucer) and Scots dialect form of the word "pipes", and applied to grass appears to mean mainly a kind of Bent Grass (genus Agrostis). However, in a new land a common name like that could be applied to almost any grass that looked somewhat similar to the stuff at home. Some of the native grasses of the Poa family such as Ehrharta are sometimes called pipe-grass. Was the diarist a Scot? Was he sowing it for lawn or for pasture? -- Regards John -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/90 - Release Date: 5/09/2005

Welcome aboard Jeanette, hope you have a great time ... things move slowly and then they gather pace ... I've ancestors from Maryborough, Carisbrook, Daisy Hill but sadly - my ancestors don't match yours... sadly my ancestors don't match the interests of anybody ... I hope you have luck ... in the meantime ... enjoy the search ... best wishes Robert still using Patricia's email address and the number of times that people reply to Patricia - well - you don't want to know ... At 09:30 AM 6/09/2005 +1000, jeanette andrewartha wrote: >Hello all, I am a new subscriber and would like to put the names I am >researching. > >Wagstaff, Birnie, Greenhill, Hedley, Wilton, Howard - they were all in >the goldfields from Ballan, Maryborough, Carisbrook, Daisy Hill, >Amherst, Mooroopna, Shepparton and all towns in between. Any >information would be greatly appreciated. Some later went to Wonthaggi >to work in the coal mines. > >Thank you, > > >Jeanette > > > >==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== >Support RootsWeb and help it support genealogy >http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >

Hello all, in my research for Howard and Birnie, I have come across what appears to be the surname Risden or Resden, has anyone any information in this name? Thank You, Jeanette

Hello all, I am a new subscriber and would like to put the names I am researching. Wagstaff, Birnie, Greenhill, Hedley, Wilton, Howard - they were all in the goldfields from Ballan, Maryborough, Carisbrook, Daisy Hill, Amherst, Mooroopna, Shepparton and all towns in between. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Some later went to Wonthaggi to work in the coal mines. Thank you, Jeanette

LesPitt wrote: > In the 1874 diary I am working on are references to "pypys grass", he > buys the seed and sows it. > I have been unable to find what it is, anyone have any clues? I have > googled it to no avail. "Pypys" is an old (time of Chaucer) and Scots dialect form of the word "pipes", and applied to grass appears to mean mainly a kind of Bent Grass (genus Agrostis). However, in a new land a common name like that could be applied to almost any grass that looked somewhat similar to the stuff at home. Some of the native grasses of the Poa family such as Ehrharta are sometimes called pipe-grass. Was the diarist a Scot? Was he sowing it for lawn or for pasture? -- Regards John

Hi all just wondering if anyone knows if photos have been taken of headstones in the Smythesdale area. I would be happy to do this and compile it but do not want to reinvent the wheel. Carmel

Thanks to all who replied-I think I'll go with this one- Interestingly if you Google 'pipe grass' you come up with many marihuana sites! Les DSL - SND1 PIPE, n., v. Also †pip (Bnff. 1729 W. Cramond Ann. Bnff. (1891) I. 200). Sc. usages: I. n. 1. As in Eng. Combs., phrs. and deriv.: (1) pipe-bent, a species of bent-grass, Agrostis; (2) pipe(y)-dottle, the plug of unconsumed tobacco and ash in a half-smoked pipe. Gen.Sc. See Dottle, and cf. 5.; (3) pipe-grass, appar. = (1); -----Original Message----- From: Gary Bond [mailto:gary@johncmalouf.com.au] Sent: Monday, 5 September 2005 2:58 PM To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Any farmers out there? Pypys Grass Hi Les Try typing Grass in Google and then pypys in search within results and you will get two sites. I didn't have time to go through all the detail but it looks like an ancient word. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna O'Mara" <donnamarie@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 2:22 PM Subject: RE: Any farmers out there? Pypys Grass > Hi Les > > Maybe it is papyrus grass?? > > Donna > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: LesPitt [mailto:lespitt@optusnet.com.au] >> Sent: Sunday, 4 September 2005 8:21 AM >> To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Any farmers out there? Pypys Grass >> >> >> In the 1874 diary I am working on are references to "pypys grass", he >> buys >> the seed and sows it. >> I have been unable to find what it is, anyone have any clues? I >> have googled >> it to no avail. >> >> Regards >> >> Les >> and thanks to all who answered on the "powdered butter". >> >> ______________________________ > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > Threaded archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/aus-vic-goldfields > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== Searchable archives at http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.17/85 - Release Date: 30/08/2005

Hi I have just been into Ancestry.co.uk. Its true you cannot see the origional document but you can see who lived in the house ect. I only had to log on, no money or free trial mentioned except if you want to see origional Docs. Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Jungwirth" <tricia.j@aardvark.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 2:19 PM Subject: Re: Uk cenus 1901 free > Hi, > > anybody have the address? > > when I checked in all I could find was free access to the 1901 census > index > ... > > > thanks > > Robert > > > At 08:34 AM 5/09/2005 +1000, Debbie Corder wrote: >>Hi >>the UK census is FREE for sept on Ancestry.co.uk >>Debbie >> >> >>==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== >>Searchable archives at >>http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L >> > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > Practice good internet genealogy - always be polite plus say 'thank you' > >

Hi Les Try typing Grass in Google and then pypys in search within results and you will get two sites. I didn't have time to go through all the detail but it looks like an ancient word. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna O'Mara" <donnamarie@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 2:22 PM Subject: RE: Any farmers out there? Pypys Grass > Hi Les > > Maybe it is papyrus grass?? > > Donna > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: LesPitt [mailto:lespitt@optusnet.com.au] >> Sent: Sunday, 4 September 2005 8:21 AM >> To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Any farmers out there? Pypys Grass >> >> >> In the 1874 diary I am working on are references to "pypys grass", he >> buys >> the seed and sows it. >> I have been unable to find what it is, anyone have any clues? I >> have googled >> it to no avail. >> >> Regards >> >> Les >> and thanks to all who answered on the "powdered butter". >> >> ______________________________ > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > Threaded archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/aus-vic-goldfields >

Hi Les Maybe it is papyrus grass?? Donna > -----Original Message----- > From: LesPitt [mailto:lespitt@optusnet.com.au] > Sent: Sunday, 4 September 2005 8:21 AM > To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Any farmers out there? Pypys Grass > > > In the 1874 diary I am working on are references to "pypys grass", he buys > the seed and sows it. > I have been unable to find what it is, anyone have any clues? I > have googled > it to no avail. > > Regards > > Les > and thanks to all who answered on the "powdered butter". > > ______________________________

Hi, anybody have the address? when I checked in all I could find was free access to the 1901 census index ... thanks Robert At 08:34 AM 5/09/2005 +1000, Debbie Corder wrote: >Hi >the UK census is FREE for sept on Ancestry.co.uk >Debbie > > >==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== >Searchable archives at >http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L >