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    1. Carngham Cemetery Headstones
    2. Carmel M Reynen
    3. Just to let everyone know that there are now photos of all graves and headstones for Carngham Cemetery are now on line http://www.ozgenonline.com/aust_cemeteries/vic/index.htm Hope this is of help to somebody. Carmel

    10/22/2005 02:21:07
    1. Re: Sandstone
    2. trevor
    3. Lois wrote: | Anybody that knows the area, knows how each piece of ground seems to have a | separate name, be it a reef/mine name, creek name, surname or anything else | thats in the vicinity, it was referred to, maybe not officially but to all | the locals. So I would say that Sandstone is the area around Bulldog Lane as | marked on John Tully's map. Reference to Mine and Pub below. Lois, I think that you are right about this. If you tie in your comments with those made by Peter in his posting on the subject (see below) it seems that the most logical explanation for the location of Sandstone is, as you suggest, " it was referred to, maybe not officially but to all the locals. So I would say that Sandstone is the area around Bulldog Lane as marked on John Tully's map." I appreciate the trouble you have gone to. It really adds to my knowledge of the area and I am very grateful to you for delving so deeply into the subject and spending the time typing it up. Thank you! In his post, Peter wrote: > Hi Trevor, bit of a conundrum. It seems that in a lot of the goldfields there were many local names that people referred to and knew where they were, but they werent necessarily written down or passed through to following generations or maps. A lot of the alluvial mining country for example- most of the gullies and minor creeks had names. ..... I suspect its a local name for a place near Llanelly, as I've seen the references to it as well, and it wasnt Sandstone Reef, although mining reports about the work of various companies in the T&L Courier refer to> both New Chum and Sandstone. New Chum later became Llanelly which suggests that Sandstone was its own locality, and not to be confused with Llanelly. I am (once again!) indebted to your superior knowledge of the area, Peter, and your willingness to share it with me. That is greatly appreciated. It seems that both you and Lois are tending to the conclusion that in the 1870s or thereabouts, there were many names for localities known only to the locals and that Sandstone was probably one of them. I'll go along with that! It seems to be the logical conclusion. Thank you very much Peter. Trevor

    10/22/2005 02:16:04
    1. Re: Sandstone
    2. trevor
    3. Thanks, Gillian I found the WA Sandstone when I googled for the name. It seems, however, that the Sandstone I am looking for was a locality in Victoria, in the vicinity of Tarnagulla circa 1870. I will hunt out the exact wording of the advertisement and post it to the list some time tonight. Trevor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gillian" <gillda@ozemail.com.au> To: "trevor" <tjwilliams@iinet.net.au> Cc: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 9:15 AM Subject: Re: Sandstone Sandstone is in Western Australia. It is about ?50 kms east of Mt Magnet. My father was born there in 1907, when his father was there as a mining engineer from Ronaldson and Tippetts, of Ballarat. There was a gold field called Nunngara 10 kms south of the town, which was very busy in the 1900-1914 period. I went there in 1982 - booked into the Hotel Oraya by the Alice Springs travel agent. A local in the lovely old Victorian-style pub told me the Oraya blew away in 1927 - so much for the booking! It had a wide central street, but not much there. The local hall had many old photos of the crowd there to greet the train arriving in 1910 (removed after WW2), etc. Only about 10 people there when I visited. Gillian Johnston, Adelaide t> I have been looking at an advertisement in the "Tarnagulla and Llanelly t> Courier" for April 1871. It was placed by the Manager of the South t> Sandstone Gold Mining Company, James Christopher. t> The address given is simply, Sandstone. It is not Sandstone Reef, or t> Sandstone Creek. It reads as if Sandstone might have been a settlement. t> Does anyone know if this was so? I have unsuccessfully checked the t> Geoscience Australia Place Names search. t> Trevor t> ______________________________ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - TERAUSTRALIS AUSTRALIAN TERRIERS - www.teraustralis.com

    10/22/2005 01:55:47
    1. Re: Sandstone
    2. Peter Matthews
    3. I agree with Lois where the likely location of Sandstone was. Dont know whether anyone saw the recent program on the ABC about the Welsh Great Escape which documented the escape during WW2 of German officers from the small Welsh village of Bridgend in Glamorgan. Edward Lewis and his family were from this village and the program showed some good shots of the countryside. Quite a few of the Welsh in Tarnagulla in the early days were from Glamorgan and had mining experience prior to coming to Australia. Edward saw out his final years as hotel keeper of the Victoria Hotel in Tarnagulla. After his death his second wife Annie ran the hotel for some years. She also invested in some local mining companies. Peter Matthews Lois Broad wrote: >Anybody that knows the area, knows how each piece of ground seems to have a >separate name, be it a reef/mine name, creek name, surname or anything else >thats in the vicinity, it was referred to, maybe not officially but to all >the locals. So I would say that Sandstone is the area around Bulldog Lane as >marked on John Tully's map. Reference to Mine and Pub below. > >SANDSTONE MINE, Llanelly >There were several deep lead shafts situated 1/2 mile north east of Llannely >near the Inglewood-Dunolly railway line which is reached by Stokes or >Bulldog Lanes. >All that remains today is a large sand heap with the remnants of some >mullock heaps. Much of the crushed rock having been removed for the making >of roads. A large bricked winding room iwth a peppersorn tree growing uop >through it remains along with some brick foundations, probably of a boiler >house. A large dam, which in recent years has become over grown with weeds, >serviced the area. This was the principal mining are for Llanelly. By 1864 >John Davies had established an ore crusher on the Sandstone Reef. He had >little opposition until 1866 when Henry Bous field began crushing however >they could not get the resulting yeilds that Davies had managed. >The South Sandstone Gold Mining Company had sunk their main shaft to 120 ft >by 1867 when the Mine was let on tribute. >On 6 June 1867 the Victorian Company called for tenders to sink a shaft >200ft at Sandstone. At this time Edward Lewis was the manager. These two >mines now shared a rich reef with the latter extracting one ounce of gold to >each crushing. >During the 1870's several of the companies on this Reef amalgamated their >claims promising good returns for their prospective investors. Shafts were >sunk to 500 feet however by the 1880s most of the claims were abandoned. The >Discovery of new reefs were reported in 1894 however these were abandoned >during 1897 when the Newbridge ruch commenced. >The last Mine on this field closed with the pumps drawn and sold during >January 1900. > >SANDSTONE REEF HOTEL >Patrick Healy had moved to the newly erected Sandstone Reef Hotel at >Llanelly by May 1868 when he was granted a publicans licence. Offered for >sale in 1871 and 1875. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Peter Matthews" <dryandra1@netspeed.com.au> >To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 7:23 AM >Subject: Re: Sandstone > > > > >>Hi Trevor, bit of a conundrum. It seems that in a lot of the goldfields >>there were many local names that people referred to and knew where they >>were, but they werent necessarily written down or passed through to >>following generations or maps. A lot of the alluvial mining country for >>example- most of the gullies and minor creeks had names. I checked John >>Tully's maps of the area and unfortunately no Sandstone. >> >>I suspect its a local name for a place near Llanelly, as I've seen the >>references to it as well, and it wasnt Sandstone Reef, although mining >>reports about the work of various companies in the T&L Courier refer to >>both New Chum and Sandstone. New Chum later became Llanelly which >>suggests that Sandstone was its own locality, and not to be confused >>with Llanelly. >> >>The Sandstone Reef is a about one kilometer north of the township of >>Llanelly (previously called New Chum, then Maidentown before being >>called Lllanelly),off the Bridgewater road in the bush. There was a >>Sandstone Reef Hotel at Llanelly built 1867/68. Perhaps Sandstone was a >>small locality north of Llanelly but not far from the Sandstone Reef, >>but on the road to Bridgewater. >> >>Peter Matthews >> >> >>trevor wrote: >> >> >> >>>I have been looking at an advertisement in the "Tarnagulla and Llanelly >>>Courier" for April 1871. It was placed by the Manager of the South >>>Sandstone Gold Mining Company, James Christopher. >>> >>>The address given is simply, Sandstone. It is not Sandstone Reef, or >>>Sandstone Creek. It reads as if Sandstone might have been a settlement. >>> >>>Does anyone know if this was so? I have unsuccessfully checked the >>>Geoscience Australia Place Names search. >>> >>>Trevor >>> >>> >>>==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== >>>To unsubscribe from this mailing list send the word 'unsubscribe' in >>>the body of a message to AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L-request@rootsweb.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== >>Practice safe genealogy - don't include the personal details of the >> >> >living. > > >> >>-- >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 21/10/05 >> >> >> >> > > > > >

    10/22/2005 12:51:47
    1. RE: Wonderful Language
    2. Ann Belmont
    3. I agree about phonetical spelling. Looking at gggfather's hospital records - he was illiterate - The "Rajasthan" became "Register Anne" with his pronunciation. Ann -----Original Message----- From: dawnwebb@optusnet.com.au [mailto:dawnwebb@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Friday, 21 October 2005 1:40 AM To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Wonderful Language Personally I think we are now going full circle. In the 1800s people could not read nor write so the names were all spelt at best phonetically. eg my gg grandmother was Mary Wray Rea Rhea or Ray, take your pick - and probably a few more variations I have not yet seen. When I was a child, and in the time of my parents and even grandparents, spelling, punctuation and grammar were VERY important. That's say the first 60 years or so of the 1900s. Now, people communicate but spelling and grammar have gone out the window and many people can not read it seems. There are also the wonderful text abbreviations such as CU2nite. (Say it.) Bet in another 100 or so years our descendants will be searching about and wondering why on earth they can't find their g grandfather, for example! And they will eventually find them listed as Jon Chumley Marchbanks when they thought it was John Cholmondely Marjoribanks.. (OK so I stretch the point.) Dawn > Lyn <chedoona@tpg.com.au> wrote: > > Ditto..Ditto..Ditto..Ditto.. > cheers > Lyn > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > Do NOT send virus warnings <- considered off-topic.

    10/22/2005 09:42:54
    1. Re: Sandstone
    2. Lois Broad
    3. Anybody that knows the area, knows how each piece of ground seems to have a separate name, be it a reef/mine name, creek name, surname or anything else thats in the vicinity, it was referred to, maybe not officially but to all the locals. So I would say that Sandstone is the area around Bulldog Lane as marked on John Tully's map. Reference to Mine and Pub below. SANDSTONE MINE, Llanelly There were several deep lead shafts situated 1/2 mile north east of Llannely near the Inglewood-Dunolly railway line which is reached by Stokes or Bulldog Lanes. All that remains today is a large sand heap with the remnants of some mullock heaps. Much of the crushed rock having been removed for the making of roads. A large bricked winding room iwth a peppersorn tree growing uop through it remains along with some brick foundations, probably of a boiler house. A large dam, which in recent years has become over grown with weeds, serviced the area. This was the principal mining are for Llanelly. By 1864 John Davies had established an ore crusher on the Sandstone Reef. He had little opposition until 1866 when Henry Bous field began crushing however they could not get the resulting yeilds that Davies had managed. The South Sandstone Gold Mining Company had sunk their main shaft to 120 ft by 1867 when the Mine was let on tribute. On 6 June 1867 the Victorian Company called for tenders to sink a shaft 200ft at Sandstone. At this time Edward Lewis was the manager. These two mines now shared a rich reef with the latter extracting one ounce of gold to each crushing. During the 1870's several of the companies on this Reef amalgamated their claims promising good returns for their prospective investors. Shafts were sunk to 500 feet however by the 1880s most of the claims were abandoned. The Discovery of new reefs were reported in 1894 however these were abandoned during 1897 when the Newbridge ruch commenced. The last Mine on this field closed with the pumps drawn and sold during January 1900. SANDSTONE REEF HOTEL Patrick Healy had moved to the newly erected Sandstone Reef Hotel at Llanelly by May 1868 when he was granted a publicans licence. Offered for sale in 1871 and 1875. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Matthews" <dryandra1@netspeed.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 7:23 AM Subject: Re: Sandstone > Hi Trevor, bit of a conundrum. It seems that in a lot of the goldfields > there were many local names that people referred to and knew where they > were, but they werent necessarily written down or passed through to > following generations or maps. A lot of the alluvial mining country for > example- most of the gullies and minor creeks had names. I checked John > Tully's maps of the area and unfortunately no Sandstone. > > I suspect its a local name for a place near Llanelly, as I've seen the > references to it as well, and it wasnt Sandstone Reef, although mining > reports about the work of various companies in the T&L Courier refer to > both New Chum and Sandstone. New Chum later became Llanelly which > suggests that Sandstone was its own locality, and not to be confused > with Llanelly. > > The Sandstone Reef is a about one kilometer north of the township of > Llanelly (previously called New Chum, then Maidentown before being > called Lllanelly),off the Bridgewater road in the bush. There was a > Sandstone Reef Hotel at Llanelly built 1867/68. Perhaps Sandstone was a > small locality north of Llanelly but not far from the Sandstone Reef, > but on the road to Bridgewater. > > Peter Matthews > > > trevor wrote: > > >I have been looking at an advertisement in the "Tarnagulla and Llanelly > >Courier" for April 1871. It was placed by the Manager of the South > >Sandstone Gold Mining Company, James Christopher. > > > >The address given is simply, Sandstone. It is not Sandstone Reef, or > >Sandstone Creek. It reads as if Sandstone might have been a settlement. > > > >Does anyone know if this was so? I have unsuccessfully checked the > >Geoscience Australia Place Names search. > > > >Trevor > > > > > >==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > >To unsubscribe from this mailing list send the word 'unsubscribe' in > >the body of a message to AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > Practice safe genealogy - don't include the personal details of the living. > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 21/10/05 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 21/10/05

    10/22/2005 08:48:34
    1. Gazeteer of Central Victorian Goldfields newspapers 1851-1901
    2. Peter Matthews
    3. There is a useful publication on the Internet about the early Central Victoria Goldfields newspapers at: http://www.csu.edu.au/research/jcentre/reports/report198.pdf There is a list by town which is very convenient plus a useful map. Be warned, old newspapers are a great resource but can lead to square eyes from endless staring at microfilm in libraries!

    10/22/2005 05:37:58
    1. Re: Sandstone
    2. Gillian
    3. Sandstone is in Western Australia. It is about ?50 kms east of Mt Magnet. My father was born there in 1907, when his father was there as a mining engineer from Ronaldson and Tippetts, of Ballarat. There was a gold field called Nunngara 10 kms south of the town, which was very busy in the 1900-1914 period. I went there in 1982 - booked into the Hotel Oraya by the Alice Springs travel agent. A local in the lovely old Victorian-style pub told me the Oraya blew away in 1927 - so much for the booking! It had a wide central street, but not much there. The local hall had many old photos of the crowd there to greet the train arriving in 1910 (removed after WW2), etc. Only about 10 people there when I visited. Gillian Johnston, Adelaide t> I have been looking at an advertisement in the "Tarnagulla and Llanelly t> Courier" for April 1871. It was placed by the Manager of the South t> Sandstone Gold Mining Company, James Christopher. t> The address given is simply, Sandstone. It is not Sandstone Reef, or t> Sandstone Creek. It reads as if Sandstone might have been a settlement. t> Does anyone know if this was so? I have unsuccessfully checked the t> Geoscience Australia Place Names search. t> Trevor t> ______________________________ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - TERAUSTRALIS AUSTRALIAN TERRIERS - www.teraustralis.com

    10/22/2005 02:45:01
    1. Re. Goodbye for now.
    2. Bev Walker
    3. Dear List. Just a note to say goodbye for a few months. We have sold our home here and having another built only 1km away. Sadly it won't be finished until Feb. so we are living in a caravan until then. Whilst I will have access to the computer I won't have the Net. I would like to say thankyou for all your help over the years, the good fun and interesting things that have happened to us all over time. I wish you all good health and good luck. Bye for now, Bev/

    10/22/2005 02:34:36
    1. Re: Sandstone
    2. Peter Matthews
    3. Hi Trevor, bit of a conundrum. It seems that in a lot of the goldfields there were many local names that people referred to and knew where they were, but they werent necessarily written down or passed through to following generations or maps. A lot of the alluvial mining country for example- most of the gullies and minor creeks had names. I checked John Tully's maps of the area and unfortunately no Sandstone. I suspect its a local name for a place near Llanelly, as I've seen the references to it as well, and it wasnt Sandstone Reef, although mining reports about the work of various companies in the T&L Courier refer to both New Chum and Sandstone. New Chum later became Llanelly which suggests that Sandstone was its own locality, and not to be confused with Llanelly. The Sandstone Reef is a about one kilometer north of the township of Llanelly (previously called New Chum, then Maidentown before being called Lllanelly),off the Bridgewater road in the bush. There was a Sandstone Reef Hotel at Llanelly built 1867/68. Perhaps Sandstone was a small locality north of Llanelly but not far from the Sandstone Reef, but on the road to Bridgewater. Peter Matthews trevor wrote: >I have been looking at an advertisement in the "Tarnagulla and Llanelly >Courier" for April 1871. It was placed by the Manager of the South >Sandstone Gold Mining Company, James Christopher. > >The address given is simply, Sandstone. It is not Sandstone Reef, or >Sandstone Creek. It reads as if Sandstone might have been a settlement. > >Does anyone know if this was so? I have unsuccessfully checked the >Geoscience Australia Place Names search. > >Trevor > > >==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from this mailing list send the word 'unsubscribe' in >the body of a message to AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > >

    10/22/2005 01:23:11
    1. NSW on-line BDM indexes
    2. Ron and Jeannie Lister
    3. Hi folks, I know this is not strictly Goldfields area information but I've just found out that the NSW Registrar's office has released more death and marriage indexes, free, online. Deaths now go to 1974, marriages to 1954 and births still just to 1905. It's at: http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/search.htm Cheers, Jeannie.

    10/21/2005 10:29:25
    1. Re: Sandstone
    2. trevor
    3. Keith wrote, | The Sandstone in WA is on the Murchison Goldfield and mining did not start | at that location until the late 1890`s. The main WA gold rush did not start | until circa 1890. Yes, and the "Tarnagulla and Llanelly Courier" reference I am referring to is dated 1871, so clearly the two are not connected. | It is estimated that 35% of the diggers in the rush were from Victoria so if | looking for missing ancestors in that period that is where they might have | gone I have actually found some over there, including one tragic death. I am beginning to wonder if the "Sandstone" as used in the advertisement, really does refer to "Sandstone Reef"? However, the way it is written seems to indicate a locality rather that a reef. Trevor

    10/21/2005 10:23:36
    1. Re: Sandstone
    2. trevor
    3. | All I found was a 100 yr old shilling. | Doubt if it's the Sandstone you're looking for though. You're right, Julie... it is not the WA Sandstone :-( Great story about the shilling, though :-) Trevor

    10/21/2005 10:19:24
    1. Re: Sandstone
    2. Keith Campbell
    3. Hi Trevor, The Sandstone in WA is on the Murchison Goldfield and mining did not start at that location until the late 1890`s. The main WA gold rush did not start until circa 1890. It is estimated that 35% of the diggers in the rush were from Victoria so if looking for missing ancestors in that period that is where they might have gone Cheers Keith Campbell ----- Original Message ----- From: "trevor" <tjwilliams@iinet.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 8:05 AM Subject: Sandstone > I have been looking at an advertisement in the "Tarnagulla and Llanelly > Courier" for April 1871. It was placed by the Manager of the South > Sandstone Gold Mining Company, James Christopher. > > The address given is simply, Sandstone. It is not Sandstone Reef, or > Sandstone Creek. It reads as if Sandstone might have been a settlement. > > Does anyone know if this was so? I have unsuccessfully checked the > Geoscience Australia Place Names search. > > Trevor > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this mailing list send the word 'unsubscribe' in > the body of a message to AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/143 - Release Date: 19/10/2005 > >

    10/21/2005 06:00:15
    1. Re: Sandstone
    2. Julie
    3. Hello Trevor, The only Sandstone I know of is in WA inland from Geraldton. I travelled there 25 yrs ago on the red bull-dust road to the old town with literally one pub. Apparently you can still find gold there. All I found was a 100 yr old shilling. Doubt if it's the Sandstone you're looking for though. Friday, October 21, 2005, 10:05:09 AM, you wrote: t> I have been looking at an advertisement in the "Tarnagulla and Llanelly t> Courier" for April 1871. It was placed by the Manager of the South t> Sandstone Gold Mining Company, James Christopher. t> The address given is simply, Sandstone. It is not Sandstone Reef, or t> Sandstone Creek. It reads as if Sandstone might have been a settlement. t> Does anyone know if this was so? I have unsuccessfully checked the t> Geoscience Australia Place Names search. -- Best regards, Julie in Cairns mailto:tropikkal@mytown.net.au

    10/21/2005 04:31:56
    1. Sandstone
    2. trevor
    3. I have been looking at an advertisement in the "Tarnagulla and Llanelly Courier" for April 1871. It was placed by the Manager of the South Sandstone Gold Mining Company, James Christopher. The address given is simply, Sandstone. It is not Sandstone Reef, or Sandstone Creek. It reads as if Sandstone might have been a settlement. Does anyone know if this was so? I have unsuccessfully checked the Geoscience Australia Place Names search. Trevor

    10/21/2005 04:05:09
    1. Re: Wonderful Language
    2. Personally I think we are now going full circle. In the 1800s people could not read nor write so the names were all spelt at best phonetically. eg my gg grandmother was Mary Wray Rea Rhea or Ray, take your pick - and probably a few more variations I have not yet seen. When I was a child, and in the time of my parents and even grandparents, spelling, punctuation and grammar were VERY important. That's say the first 60 years or so of the 1900s. Now, people communicate but spelling and grammar have gone out the window and many people can not read it seems. There are also the wonderful text abbreviations such as CU2nite. (Say it.) Bet in another 100 or so years our descendants will be searching about and wondering why on earth they can't find their g grandfather, for example! And they will eventually find them listed as Jon Chumley Marchbanks when they thought it was John Cholmondely Marjoribanks.. (OK so I stretch the point.) Dawn > Lyn <chedoona@tpg.com.au> wrote: > > Ditto..Ditto..Ditto..Ditto.. > cheers > Lyn > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > Do NOT send virus warnings <- considered off-topic.

    10/20/2005 08:10:12
    1. Wonderful Language
    2. Lyn
    3. Ditto..Ditto..Ditto..Ditto.. cheers Lyn

    10/20/2005 04:44:32
    1. Re: Queen's Birthday at Logan
    2. Ron Phillips
    3. Seems I stuck a cord! Its nice to know there are still folk around that appreciate the wonderful language we have. It's sad it is falling into such disarray with grunts and groans replacing actual words. I wonder sometimes if mankind is really progressing towards a civilised state when to every appearance we are going backwards to our caveman days where communication consisted of a wack across the head to get your attention or a surly grunt given begrudgingly at best to say 'Thank You'. We do not smile anymore when a casual meeting with another person occurs or if you do the other person moves away think you some kind of peculiar individual - Oh I could go on but I fear the wrath of our List Administrator so best end the thread before we are scolded for off Subject!! Regards Ron Phillips Melbourne Vic ----- Original Message ----- From: "worthtnk" <worthtnk@dodo.com.au> To: "'Ron Phillips'" <ronphillips@netspace.net.au> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 11:01 PM Subject: RE: Queen's Birthday at Logan > Me too! As an amateur writer I loved it. What a pity today's > journalists aren't taught to read good material. Chances are that they > might even try to emulate it and earn themselves a few points. > Trevor Worth > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron Phillips [mailto:ronphillips@netspace.net.au] > Sent: Monday, 17 October 2005 8:18 PM > To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Queen's Birthday at Logan > > Don't know about anyone else but I found the style and words far far > better > than "60 killed by suicide bomber in London Underground" etc. with the > appropriate pictures in full colour of decapitated maimed and bloodied > children and people. > And what lovely use of the English Language! Again far better than a > string > of American acronyms Hollywood abbreviations and a load of modern > garbage > er - idioms that no one knows anything about other than the writer! > Call me old fashion but I'd be happy to read this in preference to what > currently passes as Newspaper Reporting any day!! > > > Cheers > Ron Phillips > Melb Vic > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "trevor" <tjwilliams@iinet.net.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 9:52 PM > Subject: Queen's Birthday at Logan > > >> Can you imagine a local newspaper these days bothering to report an > event >> such as the Queen's Birthday celebrations at a tiny place like Logan? >> Can >> you imagine any modern reporter writing in the florid, purple style > of >> the >> accompanying account? >> >> It is so over the top that I thought it worth sending to the List for > your >> edification! Quite a few names might be recognised by listers. >> >> Trevor >> >> >> >> THE >> QUEEN'S BIRTHDAY AT LOGAN >> >> [From >> our own Correspondent] >> On former occasions the inhabitants of this remote but flourishing >> district >> were accustomed to hold a general picnic for the amusement of the > young >> folks, but this year the gentlemen who took a part in the original > picnic >> style of pleasure-seeking were so engrossed in the affairs of their > new >> Mechanics Institute and Free Library Hall that they had to abandon the > >> idea, >> so for a time the little ones were about to be neglected; but the good >> ladies of the district, with a kindly and motherly feeling, no doubt, > took >> the matter of the children's annual picnic in hand, and provided an >> abundant >> supply of the good things so wistfully looked for and enjoyed by those > of >> tender years. There was no want of games, races, jumping matches, &c. > >> The >> most attractive game of the day was the "Tailing the donkey". This > little >> game is very simple and innocent, yet really ludicrous, which made it > all >> the more sportive for the lively youngsters. Those who have not seen > the >> "Tailing of the donkey" should visit Logan on the 24th May 1889, when, > I >> am >> informed, it will be re-introduced in a new and improved style. The > day's >> amusements having passed off splendidly, we now arrive at the evening > to >> witness a grand vocal and instrumental concert in aid of the building > fund >> of the Free Library Hall. The talent and skill not only of the >> performers, >> but also of the committee and the energetic secretary (Mr Henry Lyons) > are >> deserving of more than a passing comment on this occasion. Mr Joseph >> Quinn >> acted as chairman at the concert, and in that capacity announced the >> overture by Messrs Gilbert King and Robert Marshall, which was very > well >> received. The opening song, "Genevieve," by Messrs C.J. Marshall and >> Sons, >> was faultless, unless there were present some who cannot recognise > worth >> in >> any performance unless the performance carry with them some London or >> foreign name. "The Yankee boy" was rendered in good form by Mr A. > Burke. >> Miss Wallis sang "The flower girl's song" in such a fascinating style > that >> it has been pronounced a brilliant success. Mr C.J. Marshall's > rendition >> of >> "Let me like a soldier fall" was really good. "Advance," in costume, > by >> Mr >> A. Ross and Mrs Quintrel, was well worth witnessing, particularly the > neat >> and graceful style of Mrs Quintrel's dancing, and it was wonderful the >> length of time this was kept up, it not being an easy task to perform. > >> The >> most complimentary remarks were made on the performance. In this > dance, >> Mr >> Ross has beyond doubt met with a perfect test. Of Mr Robert Marshall > and >> the whole Marshall family a mere mention of their names as being > present >> should suffice to convey that the songs sung by them were well > rendered. >> Mr >> Gilbert King's Irish comic song caused much amusement, and proved Mr >> King's >> fitness for such characters. A duet, "The violet brave," by Mr and > Mrs L. >> Male was well received by the audience. Miss Price's (Bealiba) > sparkling >> rendition of "Barney take me home again" pleased everybody judging > from >> the >> manner she was greeted with applause. Mr H.C. Logan's recitation was >> remarkably well delivered, and cordially applauded. "Clara Brown", by > Mr >> W. >> Marshall, as before noted. Miss Collins sang very sweetly but seemed >> somewhat timid; this may only be a fancy of my own. As the programme > was >> a >> somewhat lengthy one, it is not requisite to name the many and various > >> songs >> contained in the second part, further than that special notice must be > >> given >> to the ladies - Miss Wallis's rendition of "Tit for tat," Misses Price > and >> Collin's duet, "Larboard watch," their singing being quite above all >> criticism. During the evening they were greeted with rounds of warm >> applause. Mr R. Quintrel's personation of the English teamster caused > >> some >> merriment, and he was called before the curtain for a repetition of > the >> latter part of his comic song. The members of the committee are to be >> congratulated for the in which this lengthy programme was carried out >> without a fault. This entertainment being the first of what are > intended >> to >> be annual events held in the new hall, which was crowded almost to > excess, >> will, no doubt, prove a decided success financially. The various >> districts >> around were well represented, viz. St Arnaud, Kara, Kara, Bealiba, > Burke's >> Flat, Wehla, Berrima, W.sid..,., and even Dunolly had two > representatives >> there. The ball which followed was a decided success. Messrs Gilbert > >> King >> and R. Marshall supplied the music in grand style, and Mr Thomas > Kellett, >> in >> a most efficient manner, acted as M.C. The order and decorum > noticeable >> throughout the entertainment and ball was in every respect highly >> creditable >> to the inhabitants of Logan and all those who were there. I am > pleased to >> have to record these facts. It is simply wonderful how the ball is > kept >> rolling at Logan, notwithstanding it is but recently I was present to >> report >> a similar entertainment at the opening of the new building for a > Mechanics >> Institute and Free Library, and the wonderment was on both occasions > where >> all the people came from." >> >> -"Dunolly and Betbetshire Express" >> June >> 1, 1888. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== >> Searchable archives at >> http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L >> > > ______________________________ > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.2/137 - Release Date: > 16/10/2005 > >

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    1. Searching for Nicholas SCHEIB
    2. Scheib's
    3. I am searching for any record of Nicholas SCHEIB (also known as Johann Nicholas SCHEIB or William Nicholas SCHEIB) who is lost in the Victoria gold fields from 1855 to 1860. He arrived in Melbourne in early 1855 travelling with a group of 22 Germans from the Wetter valley in Hessen (mostly from the village of Nieder-Weisel). The party set out for Ballarat and I have no further record of Nicholas until a possible record of him in Lamplough in 1860 and a definite record of him in Moonambel near Avoka in 1861. In 1862 he crossed to the Otago gold rush. Any sightings or suggestions welcome. Note the name Scheib is often badly misspelt on records. Brendon Scheib

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