Hi to all, I would be most grateful if some kind person could give me some guidance please. My father was born in Ballarat on July 12th 1893. I got this information from his WW1 record. At the time he joined up his mother was living in Launceston, Tasmania. I would like to find anything I could about his time in Ballarat but simply haven't a clue where to look. Could someone please point me in the right direction. (I know the names of his parents and siblings). The only other 'catch' is that I am totally dependent on the computer for information as I have mobility problems and am housebound. Thank you to anyone who can help. Liz in New Zealand.

Hi Liz, Send me his family names etc. I will look up the Sand & McDougall Directories of the period as they may give me an address for them. Dave in Ballarat At 06:08 PM 27/10/2005, Liz Trow wrote: >Hi to all, >I would be most grateful if some kind person could give me some guidance >please. >My father was born in Ballarat on July 12th 1893. I got this information >from his WW1 record. At the time he joined up his mother was living in >Launceston, Tasmania. >I would like to find anything I could about his time in Ballarat but simply >haven't a clue where to look. Could someone please point me in the right >direction. (I know the names of his parents and siblings). >The only other 'catch' is that I am totally dependent on the computer for >information as I have mobility problems and am housebound. >Thank you to anyone who can help. >Liz in New Zealand. > > >==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== >Do NOT send virus warnings <- considered off-topic.

Liz Do you have his birth certificate which will tell you where in Ballarat they lived, what his father's occupation was etc. You can download this certificate from the net at a cost but will give a little more to go on. Carmel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz Trow" <liz@lynx.co.nz> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 6:08 PM Subject: Guidance in Ballarat requested. > Hi to all, > I would be most grateful if some kind person could give me some guidance > please. > My father was born in Ballarat on July 12th 1893. I got this information > from his WW1 record. At the time he joined up his mother was living in > Launceston, Tasmania. > I would like to find anything I could about his time in Ballarat but > simply > haven't a clue where to look. Could someone please point me in the right > direction. (I know the names of his parents and siblings). > The only other 'catch' is that I am totally dependent on the computer for > information as I have mobility problems and am housebound. > Thank you to anyone who can help. > Liz in New Zealand. > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > Do NOT send virus warnings <- considered off-topic. > >

Hi Larraine, Thank you very much for your help--it definitely identifies CF Palmer as NOT mine--as I had suspected--though of course I am now still looking for the fate of my Charles PALMER born in Rokewood! Did you perhaps notice a Charles PALMER father George mother MaryAnn Briggs in the deaths? Anyway thank you again for the help. Cheers Evanie >From: "Chariclo Pty Ltd" <larraine@ballarat.hotkey.net.au> >To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Charles Frederick PALMER >Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 08:08:21 +1000 > >In reply to Evanie: > >There is a 1934 death entry for Charles Frederick Palmer who died in >Newtown aged 74 - Reg No 16851. Father Jno Palmer, Mother Elizth Marsham. > >2 birth entries: >1. Charles Frederic Palmer - born 1862 Newtown - Father John, Mother >Elizabet Marsham. Reg No 8240. >2. Charles Frederick Palmer - born 1861 East Collingwood - Father George >Edward, Mother Ann Manning. Reg No 331. > >Hope this helps > >Larraine > > >==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== >Practice good internet genealogy - always be polite plus say 'thank you' >

Kathy, I have an old Ballarat book first printed in about 1870 and then reprinted and brought up to date in 1887. In it a Joseph Roff, a clothier, is said to be a member of the Town Council. This is in 1854. In the book there are a number of letters written by him about current events. He seemed to be quite a literary gentleman with a great sense of humour. He is also mentioned as one of a committee of 12 men who raised the money to build the Eureka Stockade Memorial in 1887. Rosemary Wishart Melbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 9:00 AM Subject: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-D Digest V05 #282

Hi All, Thanks for responses received thus far re: my initial inquiry. If people have interests in Dunolly, it is probably worth noting the following information: There are 3 cemeteries in Dunolly- the Old, the New and Burnt Creek. The Old Cemetery would have been started as a result of the gold rush, which occurred at Dunolly in 1856. The land was reclaimed by the government and the railway line built very close by. It is located in Painkiller Gully. There are no records (none that I know of) for this cemetery. There are only a handful of surviving headstones and I would estimate that there are hundreds of burials there. The New Cemetery is still being used and was established in 1865. There were some burials, (I don't know how many), in the New Cemetery before official recording was started. There are records for this cemetery and this includes a number of burials in the Old Cemetery for families who had previously purchased plots there. Burnt Creek has only a couple of headstones, although, I recall there were more years ago. There is a record of burials that has been put together by a local woman and a plaque at the cemetery lists these. Mellissa Conn _________________________________________________________________ Sell your car for $9 on carpoint.com.au http://www.carpoint.com.au/sellyourcar

My grandmother Emma Pennell Dalziel REED married James Rae in 1903. Her occupation is listed as Grocery Business, Pitfield Plains. Are there any index references to this area for this time please? Thanks. Margaret margaretwh@dodo.com.au

Hi Listers, Could somebody with the right disks please lookup death info on Charles Frederick PALMER, died July 1934? In particular, are his parents listed? I have Charles PALMER b Rokewood 1863 in my family; a cousin has passed info which I think is blending my Charles with another Charles (Frederick) and I don't wish to perpetuate an error...is there a death entry for Charles PALMER father George Henry PALMER mother MaryAnn BRIGGS after 1870? Hoping for some help, thank you all very kindly Evanie Clack

Here is the text of an article about Isaac and Joseph Roff I prepared a couple of years ago in case anyone's interested. It mentions Joseph's Roff's connection to Black (sorry Clare, I should have submitted him to you for the Encyclopedia: A scrapbook which has recently come to light and which is to be donated to Her Majesty's Theatre's Archive Collection, has links to Ballarat's very earliest theatres. It also contains a copy of what is likely to be the first theatrical prologue. The scrapbook was kept by Joseph Roff, junior, whose father, Isaac Roff (1819 - 1892), and uncle, Joseph Roff (1827 - 1894), established the first tailor's shop on the Ballarat goldfields in 1854. Although the Roffs came originally from Bedford, a town more noted for its Nonconformist tradition, as the home of John Bunyan, than for its theatrical activity, both had spent some time in London before emigrating, and were obviously keen theatre supporters. Isaac Roff wrote Ballarat's first locally written drama: a piece called "Stuck Up, or life in the bush," which was presented at Mrs Hanmer's Adelphi Theatre. The Adelphi was a tent and canvas theatre in the Red Hill area of the Main Road through the diggings. The Roffs also set up shop on the Red Hill, where a slight elevation protected buildings from the dangers of flooding and subsidence. "Stuck Up" was presented in 1855 by Mrs Hanmer's company, which at that time featured visiting comedian Harry Jackson. The Ballarat tailoring business was developed by Joseph Roff into a very successful and profitable enterprise, while brother Isaac, although he remained a partner in the tailor's shop, went to Melbourne and Sydney, to seek further opportunities. Seeing the potential for erecting advertising billboards, he established Roff's Advertising, a company which had a monopoly on commercial and theatrical billboard advertising for 35 years, and remained prominent in the business until as least the late 1950's. In Ballarat Joseph was involving himself further in theatrical activities, and undertook to supply costumes to the early theatres on the Main Road. Costuming the company would have been a profitable activity: Mr Pole, costumier to Coleman's Theatre in 1854 is reputed to have made £60 or £70 from the business. It is however, his involvement with what is probably Ballarat's first benefit performance which gives Joseph Roff a place in Ballarat's theatre history. The previous year, in 1854, a group of local amateurs got together to form the Ballarat Garrick Club and present Boucicault's comedy "London Assurance," in the Golden Fleece Hotel in Lydiard Street in the new township. It is likely that Ballarat was lacking a theatre at the time. Coleman's Theatre, which had been set up early in 1854 in the middle of the gold diggings, was not in business very long before miners moved into the pit to dig for gold, and the theatre had to be dismantled. Hetherington's Theatre Royal was yet to take its place, which it did by December 1854: according to one account, Eureka Stockaders raided the store of theatrical props and used theatre swords to defend themselves against the guns of the troopers. Until recently, the earliest pieces of Ballarat theatrical writing which we were aware of, were a prologue and epilogue for the Garrick Club's of Bulwer Lytton's "Money," presented at the Montezuma Theatre in 1857 as a benefit for the Ballarat Fire Brigade. The writer of that prologue, journalist Frank Hasleham, was acknowledged as a fine Shakespearean critic. His prologue graphically describes the danger of fire on the goldfields: But hark! What cry is that? What scream of fright Stabs, poniard deep, th'insensate ear of night? Born of unmastered, unrespective fear It shrieks - whole-throated - of some horror near. Yes, yes! gale wafted - louder still - still higher - The clangour swells amain of FIRE! FIRE! FIRE! Quicker than thought, scared echo hugs the sound, And FIRE! FIRE! FIRE! reverberates around. Hasleham covered the Eureka Stockade for the Geelong Advertiser and received a wound which eventually caused his death. He returned to England some years after. Coincidentally, he was another Bedford man. Joseph Roff had some leanings as writer having, acting as Ballarat correspondent for the short-lived Gold Digger's Advocate. He was at the time living with Alfred Black, Peter Lalor's "secretary for war" in the events leading up to the Eureka Stockade. Roff's "London Assurance" prologue is addressed to Ballarat's multicultural community of miners: Friends, brothers, and Australians, at your leisure - Well met from many climes, in part for pleasure, To witness, for an hour or two at most, What skill we can with our assurance boast, And mark, altho' it is a sad confession, Your players are new chums in this profession. He goes on to plead for tolerance, using the language of the goldfields: Pray don't "jam any of our tails," no crows, No cooeys, "get insides," lie downs," nor "Joes." Spare a poor devil from your fiery wit, My nobblerising brother of the pit. Roff then appeals to the women in the audience, citing Florence Nightingale as an example of a "ministering angel." He appeals to the homesick diggers to support a Ballarat Hospital: Aided by you this night we hope to raise A Hospital, so that if sickness preys Upon us in the future we may not, Like cattle, in the parched plains fall and rot; Or in some cheerless tent or lonely bush, Amid the hurry of the latest rush, Sigh for the soothing draught, the skilful hand, And die a stranger in a distant land. Finally he calls for the diggers to produce their money, or their gold: Now to our play, the moral's plain and fair, We can't build solid hospitals in the air; We may build castles, but these bubbles burst, So tumble out the money or the dust. The owner of the scrapbook, Joseph Roff junior, grew up in Melbourne, but moved to Ballarat in to join his uncle in the tailor's shop. The cuttings show a broad interest in theatre, with cuttings from Melbourne and London papers, as well as some original photographs. While he gave up clipping for the book in the late 1870's, he includes material for an amateur performance of his own, with a newly revived Garrick Club, in a performance in 1877 of Taylor's The Ticket of Leave Man in the newly opened Academy of Music, now Her Majesty's Theatre. Peter Freund Her Majesty's Theatre P O Box 249 BALLARAT 3353 AUSTRALIA Ph: 613 5333 5800 Fax: 613 5333 5757 Web: www.hermaj.com -----Original Message----- From: Clare Gervasoni [mailto:c.gervasoni@ballarat.edu.au] Sent: Thursday, 27 October 2005 10:09 AM To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Mayors of Ballarat[Scanned] Hello, From memory the City of Ballarat was established in 1856. It was certainly after the Eureka Stockade in 1854, so there would be no mayor. There is no Batterbury of Roff in 'The Eureka Encyclopaedia', but there is a Joseph Rolfe who signed teh Hassell petition. Hope this helps Clare Clare Gervasoni Curator: Art & Historical Collection Monday, Tuesday & the morning of Wednesday. Ph 5327 9168 http://www.ballarat.edu.au/fdp/history >>> "Kathy Creer" <kcreer@esc.net.au> 27/10/2005 8:14 am >>> Hi All I am making some enquiries for a friend in the UK about an ancestor who was supposedly Mayor of Ballarat during the Eureka Stockade. Can anyone help me with that? The gentleman may have carried the surname BATTERBURY or ROFF. Cheers, Kathy Creer Adelaide, South Australia ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== Threaded archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/aus-vic-goldfields ###################################################################### Attention: This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above and may contain information that is confidential and privileged. 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I am hopeful someone on the list may be related to Robert Reed born Steiglitz 1871 to Robert Reed and Alice Jane Kelynack, married Emma Dalziel at Ballarat 1895, and died 1901 at Ballarat. They had 5 sons, Wm John 1896, Robert Leslie 1897, Ernest Arthur 1898, Francis John 1899 Robert George 1901.Believe another child died( a twin?) No record found. Thanks to everyone for making this list so helpful. Margaretwh@dodo.com.au

If you google Roff, Ballarat History there is one or two articles of interest as well. Carmel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Freund Peter" <pfreund@hermaj.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:03 AM Subject: RE: Mayors of Ballarat[Scanned] > Correction to last - Bill Roff was Mayor in the period leading up to the > Centenary of Gold discovery in 1951 - I would have to check whether he > was still mayor in 1954. > > Peter Freund > Publicist > Her Majesty's Theatre > P O Box 249 > BALLARAT 3353 > AUSTRALIA > Ph: 613 5333 5800 > Fax: 613 5333 5757 > Web: www.hermaj.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kathy Creer [mailto:kcreer@esc.net.au] > Sent: Thursday, 27 October 2005 8:15 AM > To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Mayors of Ballarat[Scanned] > > > Hi All > > I am making some enquiries for a friend in the UK about an ancestor who > was supposedly Mayor of Ballarat during the Eureka Stockade. > > Can anyone help me with that? > The gentleman may have carried the surname BATTERBURY or ROFF. Cheers, > Kathy Creer Adelaide, South Australia > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > Threaded archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/aus-vic-goldfields > > ###################################################################### > Attention: > This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity > named above and may contain information that is confidential and > privileged. > Privacy should be repected at all times.If you are not the intended > recipient > you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of > this communication is strictly prohibited.If you have received this e-mail > in > error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the message. > Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author. > > This e-mail has been scanned and cleared by MailMarshal > ###################################################################### > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this mailing list send the word 'unsubscribe' in > the body of a message to AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L-request@rootsweb.com > >

Hello, From memory the City of Ballarat was established in 1856. It was certainly after the Eureka Stockade in 1854, so there would be no mayor. There is no Batterbury of Roff in 'The Eureka Encyclopaedia', but there is a Joseph Rolfe who signed teh Hassell petition. Hope this helps Clare Clare Gervasoni Curator: Art & Historical Collection Monday, Tuesday & the morning of Wednesday. Ph 5327 9168 http://www.ballarat.edu.au/fdp/history >>> "Kathy Creer" <kcreer@esc.net.au> 27/10/2005 8:14 am >>> Hi All I am making some enquiries for a friend in the UK about an ancestor who was supposedly Mayor of Ballarat during the Eureka Stockade. Can anyone help me with that? The gentleman may have carried the surname BATTERBURY or ROFF. Cheers, Kathy Creer Adelaide, South Australia

Correction to last - Bill Roff was Mayor in the period leading up to the Centenary of Gold discovery in 1951 - I would have to check whether he was still mayor in 1954. Peter Freund Publicist Her Majesty's Theatre P O Box 249 BALLARAT 3353 AUSTRALIA Ph: 613 5333 5800 Fax: 613 5333 5757 Web: www.hermaj.com -----Original Message----- From: Kathy Creer [mailto:kcreer@esc.net.au] Sent: Thursday, 27 October 2005 8:15 AM To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Mayors of Ballarat[Scanned] Hi All I am making some enquiries for a friend in the UK about an ancestor who was supposedly Mayor of Ballarat during the Eureka Stockade. Can anyone help me with that? The gentleman may have carried the surname BATTERBURY or ROFF. Cheers, Kathy Creer Adelaide, South Australia ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== Threaded archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/aus-vic-goldfields ###################################################################### Attention: This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above and may contain information that is confidential and privileged. Privacy should be repected at all times.If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited.If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author. This e-mail has been scanned and cleared by MailMarshal ######################################################################

Bill Roff was a Mayor of the City of Ballarat during theEureka Centenary commemorations in 1954. Peter Freund Publicist Her Majesty's Theatre P O Box 249 BALLARAT 3353 AUSTRALIA Ph: 613 5333 5800 Fax: 613 5333 5757 Web: www.hermaj.com -----Original Message----- From: Susie Zada [mailto:szada@zades.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 27 October 2005 9:03 AM To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Mayors of Ballarat[Scanned] Hi Kathy, Eureka uprising - 1854 Ballarat Municipal District - commenced 1855 Ballarat Borough - commenced 1863 Ballarat East Municipal District - commenced 1857 Ballarat East Borough - commenced 1863 Eureka was in Ballarat East but regardless of that there was nothing in Ballarat at the time of the Eureka uprising for someone to be Mayor of. Perhaps this person might have been at Eureka and some years later was a councillor or mayor? Whichever you really need her to give a more accurate name and timeframe. No BATTERBURY or ROFF appear in "The Eureka Encyclopedia" however a ROFF and a Joseph ROFF make a couple of appearances in Withers "History of Ballarat". Far too much to type out but you should be able to access a copy of this book in Adelaide at one of the larger libraries (definitely the state library). Regards ........... Susie Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Creer" <kcreer@esc.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 8:14 AM Subject: Mayors of Ballarat > Hi All > > I am making some enquiries for a friend in the UK about an ancestor > who > was supposedly Mayor of Ballarat during the Eureka Stockade. > > Can anyone help me with that? > The gentleman may have carried the surname BATTERBURY or ROFF. Cheers, > Kathy Creer > Adelaide, South Australia > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > Threaded archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/aus-vic-goldfields > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== Practice good internet genealogy - always be polite plus say 'thank you' ###################################################################### Attention: This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above and may contain information that is confidential and privileged. Privacy should be repected at all times.If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited.If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author. This e-mail has been scanned and cleared by MailMarshal ######################################################################

Hi Jeanette, I suggest you contact the Archives of the Uniting Church, Synod of Victoria, P.O. Box 698 Elsternwick, 3185, Phone (03) 9523 1056 who may be able to help you. -----Original Message----- From: jeanette andrewartha [mailto:joeli@ihug.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, 26 October 2005 8:32 am To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Methodist Ophanage Hi All, does anyone have any information regarding a Methodist Mission/orphanage/home in Melbourne around 1919? If so, how do I find the records. Thank you Jeanette ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== Practice good internet genealogy - always be polite plus say 'thank you'

Hi Kathy, Eureka uprising - 1854 Ballarat Municipal District - commenced 1855 Ballarat Borough - commenced 1863 Ballarat East Municipal District - commenced 1857 Ballarat East Borough - commenced 1863 Eureka was in Ballarat East but regardless of that there was nothing in Ballarat at the time of the Eureka uprising for someone to be Mayor of. Perhaps this person might have been at Eureka and some years later was a councillor or mayor? Whichever you really need her to give a more accurate name and timeframe. No BATTERBURY or ROFF appear in "The Eureka Encyclopedia" however a ROFF and a Joseph ROFF make a couple of appearances in Withers "History of Ballarat". Far too much to type out but you should be able to access a copy of this book in Adelaide at one of the larger libraries (definitely the state library). Regards ........... Susie Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Creer" <kcreer@esc.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 8:14 AM Subject: Mayors of Ballarat > Hi All > > I am making some enquiries for a friend in the UK about an ancestor who > was supposedly Mayor of Ballarat during the Eureka Stockade. > > Can anyone help me with that? > The gentleman may have carried the surname BATTERBURY or ROFF. > Cheers, > Kathy Creer > Adelaide, South Australia > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > Threaded archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/aus-vic-goldfields > >

Hi All I am making some enquiries for a friend in the UK about an ancestor who was supposedly Mayor of Ballarat during the Eureka Stockade. Can anyone help me with that? The gentleman may have carried the surname BATTERBURY or ROFF. Cheers, Kathy Creer Adelaide, South Australia

yes any Treble's. I know there are alot buried there.I have visited many times. Jackie! Sydney

Hi All, Just wondering if anyone is doing research on either of these names/identities from Dunolly- CRABBE or RENZELMAN. Also, have been off list for quite some time, so just wondering if there are people out there with research intrests in DUNOLLY, as I am continuing with my research on the Dunolly cemetery. Mellissa Conn _________________________________________________________________ View 1000s of pictures, profiles and more now at Lavalife http://lavalife.com.au

Hi all, I looking for anyone that has any information on the descendants of the Fisher family. Joseph Fisher married Elizabeth Booth in Manchester in 1831 and arrived in South Australia around 1840. Their children were Culbert, Sarah, Isaac, Ann, Mary, James and Maria; born between 1831 and 1843. The arrived in the goldfields around 1855 from South Australia. I'm a descendant of James Fisher but I have very little information on the other side of the family. I would like to hear from anyone researching them. Thanks for any help. Wesley -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/148 - Release Date: 25/10/2005