Hi Everyone, I have just finished reading through and trasnscribing the coroners report for the death of my gg grandfather, here are some of the names involved, both witnesses to the accident and witness to the coroners inquest;- Depositions by - HENRY ROBINS, MINER GEORGE ROWLANDS, MINER JAMES MCHUTCHISON, MINER JAMES GAY, MINER MORGAN GRIFFITHS, MINING MANAGER JAMES DUNSTAN, MINER MICHAEL SPENCER, ENGINE DRIVER/MINING MANAGER Coroner - William Augustus Sparling (L.A) Witnesses - Edwin Offen? Witherdru?? , Foreman Ralph Wing Janner Thomas Leslie William Sprott Robb John Thomas Harrison James Simpson Henry Watson John Roberts George Hicks John Thomas John Morgan Bernard Murphy May place someone in time somewhere, this accident happened at the South Learmonth & Egerton Gold Mining Co., Egerton, 19th July, 1876. If you need to know more all you have to do is ask! Goodluck in the search. Tracy Sunshine Coast If you need any more info. please contact me off list

Roz wrote: > Is this the one you are after - > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~maddenps/TIPPEMVIC.htm and scroll > down to the "Other Related Indexes". in reply to Norm > > Could anyone on the list please advise where I would find the site that > > lists migrants from Tipperary in the 1800`s. This Index is very handy Roz. Now, can anyone tell me if there are similar lists for other counties? I'm looking for KILKENNY and QUEEN'S COUNTY. I've tried Rootsweb "Search Thingy" and there are thousands of hits when I search on KILKENNY alone. Thanks Teresa

NOW CALLED QUEEN ELIZABETH HOUSE. Hello Susan, Pat and Margaret. Many thanks for your kind help re the above records. I have found them at the PRO as you stated. I am off on holidays this week so unfortunately I'll have to wait until I get back. At least I know where they are now. Good hunting with your research. regards from, Hilary in Melbourne. RESEARCHING Butler, Barnett,Bedford, Finch, Hinton ,Lowe, , Mackay, Matheson,, Pim,, Pollock, Ratcliffe, Stewart,, Streeter,, Sedgefield.

Another interest in the goldfields is the above who died at Miners Rest in 1897. He and his wife, Susan Jane CHERRY, had 9 children between 1843 and 1869. the older of the tworobbos at Bairnsdale, gateway to the lakes, rivers and forests of East Gippsland

Hi Jan / List On the off chance, was your James HUNT married to Margaret PARKES (I have "John James") with a daughter Annie Louise HUNT b 1862? Paul in Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "J Hunt" <genie49@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 11:51 PM Subject: Interest James Hunt Miner 1840's > James HUNT Rougham, Suffolk, UK b. 2/5/1830 d Carngham 12/3/1889 > > Cheers > Jan > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.7/159 - Release Date: 11/02/2005 > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > The mailing list for the golden triangle of Ballarat, Bendigo and > Maryborough VICTORIA >

Couple more entries. Sue Surname: REED Given Names: Robert Event: M Spouse Surname/Father: KELYNACK Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Alice Jane Age: Sex: M Birth Place: Death Place: Year: 1865 Reg Number: 3770 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: REED Given Names: Alice Jane Event: B Sex: F Spouse Surname/Father: Robert Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Alice Jane KILLINACK Age: Age Code: Birth Place: STEIGLITZ Death Place: Year: 1889 Reg. Number: 26520 Surname: REED Given Names: Francis Jno Event: D Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Reed Robt Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Alice Jane KELYNACK Age: 28 Age Code: Birth Place: Death Place: Ballt Hos Year: 1899 Reg. Number: 247 Surname: REED Given Names: Robt Event: D Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Reed Robt Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Alice Jane KELYNACK Age: 30 Age Code: Birth Place: Death Place: Ballt E Year: 1901 Reg. Number: 12395 ----- Original Message ----- From: "margaret trewick" <margaretwh@dodo.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 11:28 PM Subject: STEIGLITZ RESIDENTS... KELYNACK AND REED >I am interested in the children of ALICE JANE KELYNACK and ROBERT REED >1860-1890 from STEIGLITZ . Thank you. > Margaret > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this mailing list send the word 'unsubscribe' in > the body of a message to AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L-request@rootsweb.com > >

As requested. Sue ( Surname: REED Given Names: George Henry Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Robert Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Alice Jane KELYNACK Age: Sex: Birth Place: STEIGLITZ Death Place: Year: 1866 Reg Number: 24321 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: REED Given Names: Ellen Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Robert Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Alice Jane KELYNACK Age: Sex: Birth Place: STEIGLITZ Death Place: Year: 1868 Reg Number: 12565 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: REED Given Names: Francis John Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Robert Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Alice Jane KELYNACK Age: Sex: Birth Place: STEIGLITZ Death Place: Year: 1869 Reg Number: 25281 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: REED Given Names: Robert Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Robert Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Alice Ja KELYNACK Age: Sex: Birth Place: STEIGLITZ Death Place: Year: 1871 Reg Number: 26558 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: REED Given Names: Henry Herbert Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Robt Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Alice Jane KELYNACK Age: Sex: Birth Place: STEIGLITZ Death Place: Year: 1873 Reg Number: 27327 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: REED Given Names: Thomas Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Robert Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Alice Jane KELYNACK Age: Sex: Birth Place: STEIGLITZ Death Place: Year: 1875 Reg Number: 19668 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: REED Given Names: James Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Robert Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Alice Jane KELYNACK Age: Sex: Birth Place: STEIGLITZ Death Place: Year: 1877 Reg Number: 11847 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: REED Given Names: Charles Earnest Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Robert Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Alice Jane KILYNACK Age: Sex: Birth Place: STEIGLITZ Death Place: Year: 1879 Reg Number: 19600 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: REED Given Names: Arthur Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Robt Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Alice Jane KELYNACK Age: Sex: Birth Place: STEIGLITZ Death Place: Year: 1880 Reg Number: 25382 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: REED Given Names: Frederick Milton Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Robert Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Alice Jane KELYNACK Age: Sex: Birth Place: STEIGLITZ Death Place: Year: 1883 Reg Number: 12755 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: REED Given Names: Walter Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Robert Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Alice Jane KILLINACK Age: Sex: Birth Place: STEIGLITZ Death Place: Year: 1888 Reg Number: 6910 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: REED Given Names: Thomas Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: Robert Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Alice Jane KELYNACK Age: 10M Sex: Birth Place: STEI Death Place: Year: 1876 Reg Number: 7384 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: ----- Original Message ----- From: "margaret trewick" <margaretwh@dodo.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 11:28 PM Subject: STEIGLITZ RESIDENTS... KELYNACK AND REED >I am interested in the children of ALICE JANE KELYNACK and ROBERT REED >1860-1890 from STEIGLITZ . Thank you. > Margaret > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this mailing list send the word 'unsubscribe' in > the body of a message to AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L-request@rootsweb.com > >

Hi Margaret > > I notice you just mentioned ordering records from them. Is this possible and > how would I go about it? I am also at the bottom of the class when it comes > to navigating the PRO website. You can order ahead for them to be sent to the Reading Room so that they can be ready for you when you go down IN PERSON. From www.prov.vic.gov.au: "...You can use this site to learn about what records we hold, and how we provide access to them. You can search for and order particular records through Access the Collection. To view original records you will need to visit one of our reading rooms...." and "...Most activities can be done without having to register but if you want to order records you will be prompted to do so. Existing users can log in at any time..." Click on the "Access the Collection" link. a.. Register as a public user b.. then search online for the records (series etc) you want c.. then order them to be sent to the reading room d.. then you go down in person to look at them! I persisted last night and finally getting a better understand myself now. So, this is why it''s difficult for people who can't get to PROV in person! But, there's hope, did you see what Penelope said? "...Try contacting the Genealogical Society in Melbourne. I think they have researchers who will look the info up at the PRO for a nominal fee. They will get a photo copy of the records..." Regards Teresa

Could anyone on the list please advise where I would find the site that lists migrants from Tipperary in the 1800`s. I have accessed it previously, but can`t find where I have recorded the site address. Regards, Norm.

Hello Carmel, I am in Sydney and am unable to get to the PRO. I have phoned them twice as I'm trying to get records for a Jane Bruton who died in the Kew Lunatic Asylum in 1878. Both times I was told very curtly that I had to come to the PRO to get them. I notice you just mentioned ordering records from them. Is this possible and how would I go about it? I am also at the bottom of the class when it comes to navigating the PRO website. Cheers Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carmel M Reynen" <fcfibre1@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 9:09 AM Subject: Re: Ararat Asylum Medical Records > They would be at PROV it is no use calling Psyc services as they were not > all psyc patients, many were disability services and some justice/ > criminally insane which I think would be forensic. > Ararat is VA 2844 and holds all the info you should need. You will need to > contact them and order the relevant records first. > Carmel > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan" <susana@ncable.net.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 1:55 AM > Subject: Re: Ararat Asylum Medical Records > > >> Would it be worth a phone call to Grampians Psychiatric Services Ballarat >> and asking them where old records are stored? I have a vague memory of >> being once told that they are stored in Melbourne but not sure if it was >> at the PROV. >> >> Sue >> >> >> ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== >> Practice safe genealogy - don't include the personal details of the >> living. >> >> > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > Threaded archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/aus-vic-goldfields >

>Freedom of Info: Thanks very much, I'm persisting with this>>>>>>>.And isn't that the name of the game! let's know how you get on ! Susan > > > >

This should give all the details. http://www.access.prov.vic.gov.au/public/PROVguides/PROVguide059/PROVguide059.jsp Carmel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan" <susana@ncable.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 1:55 AM Subject: Re: Ararat Asylum Medical Records > Would it be worth a phone call to Grampians Psychiatric Services Ballarat > and asking them where old records are stored? I have a vague memory of > being once told that they are stored in Melbourne but not sure if it was > at the PROV. > > Sue > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > Practice safe genealogy - don't include the personal details of the > living. > >

They would be at PROV it is no use calling Psyc services as they were not all psyc patients, many were disability services and some justice/ criminally insane which I think would be forensic. Ararat is VA 2844 and holds all the info you should need. You will need to contact them and order the relevant records first. Carmel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan" <susana@ncable.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 1:55 AM Subject: Re: Ararat Asylum Medical Records > Would it be worth a phone call to Grampians Psychiatric Services Ballarat > and asking them where old records are stored? I have a vague memory of > being once told that they are stored in Melbourne but not sure if it was > at the PROV. > > Sue > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > Practice safe genealogy - don't include the personal details of the > living. > >

Try contacting the Genealogical Society in Melbourne. I think they have researchers who will look the info up at the PRO for a nominal fee. They will get a photo copy of the records. Penelope

Hi Norm Is this the one you are after - http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~maddenps/TIPPEMVIC.htm and scroll down to the "Other Related Indexes". Kind Regards Roz Voullaire roz@voullaire.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Archibald" <normanarch@yahoo.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 8:01 AM Subject: Tipperary migrants > Could anyone on the list please advise where I would find the site that > lists migrants from Tipperary in the 1800`s. > I have accessed it previously, but can`t find where I have recorded the > site address. > Regards, > Norm. > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > The mailing list for the golden triangle of Ballarat, Bendigo and > Maryborough VICTORIA >

Would it be worth a phone call to Grampians Psychiatric Services Ballarat and asking them where old records are stored? I have a vague memory of being once told that they are stored in Melbourne but not sure if it was at the PROV. Sue

I am interested in the children of ALICE JANE KELYNACK and ROBERT REED 1860-1890 from STEIGLITZ . Thank you. Margaret

Hi Carmel Thanks for that, now I'm getting closer. That's the specific information that I wanted, whether I can get more than their admission listing! Thank you! I guessed that I would have to personally visit the archives, so I was just now in the middle of searching for my login details to get ready to order ahead. I was also preparing to email them because, despite doing several 'meta searches' on their site, I still can't find what I'm looking for. I wish their website was more user friendly - I feel so incompetent! Thanks very much, I'm persisting with this Regards Teresa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carmel M Reynen" <fcfibre1@bigpond.com> To: "Teresa Prince" <tp250277@bigpond.net.au>; <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:38 PM Subject: Re: Ararat Asylum Medical Records > Theresa > I had an ancestor die at the Yarra bend mental asylum in 1912. A visit to > the PROV many years ago gave me access to her records which were very > interesting. I am yet to go back to finish what I started. The website only > has the listing but take down all details, dates and any numbers that may be > associated with the list then you may need to book the records and make the > trip there for further details. > As far as records go for FOI if they are not going to affect anyone now I > think they then become public records. It is only the records of people > still alive that would be locked up. > It may be worth sending PROV an email asking them. > Carmel

Theresa I had an ancestor die at the Yarra bend mental asylum in 1912. A visit to the PROV many years ago gave me access to her records which were very interesting. I am yet to go back to finish what I started. The website only has the listing but take down all details, dates and any numbers that may be associated with the list then you may need to book the records and make the trip there for further details. As far as records go for FOI if they are not going to affect anyone now I think they then become public records. It is only the records of people still alive that would be locked up. It may be worth sending PROV an email asking them. Carmel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Teresa Prince" <tp250277@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 9:51 PM Subject: Re: Ararat Asylum Medical Records > Hi Anne, Carmel, Susan and Evanie, > > Thanks all very much for your replies about Ararat Asylum. > > I have already accessed the Asylum's Admission Records from PROV online, > where I've discovered my ggrandfather's listings. > > It's his Medical Records that I'd like to try and get. A Lister told me > ages ago that Medical Records are kept 'forever' under FOI. > > So, I've looked at the government's FOI site and haven't found anything > yet. > You usually obtain medical records from the original place where you > received the medical treatment. That's why I suspect I won't find > anything > about them on the government's FOI site. > > Also, because these records are so old and the asylum isn't running any > more, they would probably and hopefully be deposited at PROV in the > archives. Which leads me to the problem I have with the PROV website, > that > is I find it really difficult to navigate around it...! I'll persist and > figure it out one day, provided they don't change it around again... > > It was also suggested that a visit to J Ward is an enlightening experience > and I do hope to visit it one day. > > I did a field trip 'down memory lane' earlier this year (to Raglan, > Beaufort, Skipton, Ballarat, Snake Valley etc) and could have squeezed in > a > visit to Ararat, but I spent all of my weekend traipsing around the > cemeteries, looking for headstones and taking photos and was exhausted by > Sunday lunch time! > > Thanks again - this is a fantastic list as usual. > > Regards > Teresa > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carmel M Reynen" <fcfibre1@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 5:08 PM > Subject: Re: Ararat Asylum > > >> These records would be available through the PROV. not sure on the >> legalities of time so only up to a certain date may be available. There >> is > a >> list of inmates, patients on the web site. >> Carmel >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Susan Patterson" <aapatterson@bigpond.com> >> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 9:03 AM >> Subject: Re: Ararat Asylum >> >> >> > Crikey ! It was so long ago. >> > I got the information through using Freedom of Information papers but I >> > can't rmember how I got them ! >> > Perhaps check the Post Office or the government section of the phone > book >> > for your area. >> > I think that when wanting information about war records from the War >> > Memorial in Canberra the papers were faxed to me. >> > Perhaps the first step would be to write to the mental health authority > in >> > Ararat and ask how to go about it> >> > I'm sorry the grey cells are fewer than before... >> > Oh by the way: a few years ago the gaol was open to the public and it > was >> > quite sad to see the conditons under which so many people had had to be >> > restrained.Someone in Ararat will be able to tell us if it is still >> > open >> > to >> > the public. >> > >> > Susan >> > ----- >> > >> >> Hi Susan >> >> >> >> Would you tell us how to get the records please? Who and where do I >> >> write >> >> to? What is required? >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Teresa >> >> >> > >> > >> > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== >> > Victorian place names database >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~auswgw/vic_place_names.htm >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== >> Threaded archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/aus-vic-goldfields >> >> > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > Searchable archives at > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L > >

Hi Anne, Carmel, Susan and Evanie, Thanks all very much for your replies about Ararat Asylum. I have already accessed the Asylum's Admission Records from PROV online, where I've discovered my ggrandfather's listings. It's his Medical Records that I'd like to try and get. A Lister told me ages ago that Medical Records are kept 'forever' under FOI. So, I've looked at the government's FOI site and haven't found anything yet. You usually obtain medical records from the original place where you received the medical treatment. That's why I suspect I won't find anything about them on the government's FOI site. Also, because these records are so old and the asylum isn't running any more, they would probably and hopefully be deposited at PROV in the archives. Which leads me to the problem I have with the PROV website, that is I find it really difficult to navigate around it...! I'll persist and figure it out one day, provided they don't change it around again... It was also suggested that a visit to J Ward is an enlightening experience and I do hope to visit it one day. I did a field trip 'down memory lane' earlier this year (to Raglan, Beaufort, Skipton, Ballarat, Snake Valley etc) and could have squeezed in a visit to Ararat, but I spent all of my weekend traipsing around the cemeteries, looking for headstones and taking photos and was exhausted by Sunday lunch time! Thanks again - this is a fantastic list as usual. Regards Teresa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carmel M Reynen" <fcfibre1@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 5:08 PM Subject: Re: Ararat Asylum > These records would be available through the PROV. not sure on the > legalities of time so only up to a certain date may be available. There is a > list of inmates, patients on the web site. > Carmel > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Patterson" <aapatterson@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 9:03 AM > Subject: Re: Ararat Asylum > > > > Crikey ! It was so long ago. > > I got the information through using Freedom of Information papers but I > > can't rmember how I got them ! > > Perhaps check the Post Office or the government section of the phone book > > for your area. > > I think that when wanting information about war records from the War > > Memorial in Canberra the papers were faxed to me. > > Perhaps the first step would be to write to the mental health authority in > > Ararat and ask how to go about it> > > I'm sorry the grey cells are fewer than before... > > Oh by the way: a few years ago the gaol was open to the public and it was > > quite sad to see the conditons under which so many people had had to be > > restrained.Someone in Ararat will be able to tell us if it is still open > > to > > the public. > > > > Susan > > ----- > > > >> Hi Susan > >> > >> Would you tell us how to get the records please? Who and where do I > >> write > >> to? What is required? > >> > >> Thanks > >> Teresa > >> > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > > Victorian place names database > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~auswgw/vic_place_names.htm > > > > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > Threaded archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/aus-vic-goldfields > >