Hi Maureen No DUNLOP / HEALEY marriage found on the Digger Index at all. Might be a good idea to contact the Port Phillip Pioneers Group again and ask them where they found the reference. Larraine

Hello List, I have been looking for a marriage between John DUNLOP and Sarah HEALY in either 1858 or 1868 (the date is recorded on a child's birth cert and is difficult to read). I've been through the records for Vic at the NSW State Library and have also checked Vic BDMs online. The Port Phillip Pioneers Group told me that they located a marriage cert # 18361 but I've never been able to locate it. Would this possibly be a registration number fromthe Digger's Index and if so is there anyone who could look it up for me? Kind regards Maureen

A big thankyou to all who looked up the inquest cd for Fredrick Vertue, who died when he fell off his horse. An special thankyou to Gaylene for the time and extra help.

"Would this possibly be a registration number fromthe Digger's Index and if so is there anyone who could look it up for me?" Hi Maureen :) The Digger Indexes don't start that early, it would have to have come from the AVRIs. I've just searched them and couldn't find a marriage between John DUNLOP and Sarah HEALY, only John DUNLOP to Mary Burr BROWN. The reference number isn't the same so it's definitely not the one already found for you. Unfortunately, as far as I know, you can't search the AVRI by registration number. The registration number you get on both the AVRIs and the Digger Indexes is the reference number you use to order a copy of the certificate from the Registrar of Births, Deaths and Marriages in Melbourne. You can search their historical indexes ... http://online.justice.vic.gov.au/servlet/IdxSearch?action=getHistIdxSearchCriteria ... but you have to pay to view them. I got 7 pages of results, not sure what that means, but I'm too broke to view sorry! For future reference, you can purchase certificates here ... http://online.justice.vic.gov.au/CA256C7100199CBE/page/Births+Deaths+and+Marriages+Online+Shop-Births+Deaths+and+Marriages+Online+Shop?OpenDocument&1=0-Births+Deaths+and+Marriages+Online+Shop~&2=0-Births+Deaths+and+Marriages+Online+Shop~&3=~ Just to be "cheeky", I went through the purchase process to see if this registration DOES exist and I got an error on both 1858 and 1868, so I'm not sure where they found that one or what year it was for. Go to the purchase link above and see if it comes up when you fill in enough details, I don't think I have enough to try it myself. Take care, Rob.

I knew this was a great list, but didn't realise how great. MANY MANY thanks to Paul and Sue for being so prompt and sending me the Marriage Registration Number I needed. Thank you both HEAPS. Judy

Digger - Marriage Index. Victoria 1921-1942 Family Name: STOUT Given Name: Ina Josephine Spouse Family Name: LOWNS Spouse Given Name: Walter Garland Registration Year: 1922 Registration Number: 1910 Re-registration Year: Event Year: Registration Type: Event: M Regards, Jeanine ----- Original Message ----- From: littletrees To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 4:19 PM Subject: Marriage lookup please Hi, Would some kind person out there have access to an index that would be give the Registration Number for a marriage in 1922? I am searching for a marriage between Ina Josephine STOUT to Walter G. LOWNS at \east St.Kilda in 1922. I forgot to take down the number. Hopefully some kind person will helpe me PLEASE! Judy ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== Support RootsWeb and help it support genealogy http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html

Hi, Would some kind person out there have access to an index that would be give the Registration Number for a marriage in 1922? I am searching for a marriage between Ina Josephine STOUT to Walter G. LOWNS at \east St.Kilda in 1922. I forgot to take down the number. Hopefully some kind person will helpe me PLEASE! Judy

Could anyone who has an inquest CD for Vic. please look up an inquest for Alfred Anderson PICKERING please. The area would be near Ballarat and the year close to 1880 or a little later. Thankyou Bev Rodan

None Listed, No Alfred's Andersons at all in fact no Alfred's. Carmel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beverley Rodan" <bevrodan@iinet.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: Inquest lookup please > Could anyone who has an inquest CD for Vic. please look up an inquest for > Alfred Anderson PICKERING please. > The area would be near Ballarat and the year close to 1880 or a little > later. > Thankyou > Bev Rodan > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this mailing list send the word 'unsubscribe' in the > body of a message to AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L-request@rootsweb.com > >

Hi everyone :) This isn't really genealogy, but it IS related to workhouses and since I know a few of you had ancestors in one or another, I figured maybe you might all like to read this. I have a lot of ancestors from Devon so I found this very interesting and entertaining. Very sad though, and long, but worth the read as we head into the Christmas season! :D Take care, Rob. IBSSG Stuttgart, Germany Honey's Home of Genealogy www.honeyshome.com "In the Workhouse: Christmas Day" by George R. Sims It is Christmas Day in the Workhouse, And the cold bare walls are bright With garlands of green and holly, And the place is a pleasant sight: For with clean-washed hands and faces, In a long and hungry line The paupers sit at the tables For this is the hour they dine. And the guardians and their ladies, Although the wind is east, Have come in their furs and wrappers, To watch their charges feast; To smile and be condescending, Put pudding on pauper plates, To be hosts at the workhouse banquet They've paid for -- with their rates. Oh, the paupers are meek and lowly With their "Thank'ee kindly, mum's" So long as they fill their stomachs, What matter it whence it comes? But one of the old men mutters, And pushes his plate aside: "Great God!" he cries; "but it chokes me! For this is the day she died." The guardians gazed in horror, The master's face went white; "Did a pauper refuse the pudding?" Could their ears believe aright? Then the ladies clutched their husbands, Thinking the man would die, Struck by a bolt, or something, By the outraged One on high. But the pauper sat for a moment, Then rose 'mid a silence grim, For the others had ceased to chatter And trembled in every limb. He looked at the guardians' ladies, Then, eyeing their lords, he said, "I eat not the food of villains Whose hands are foul and red: Whose victims cry for vengeance From their dank, unhallowed graves." "He's drunk!" said the workhouse master, Or else he's mad and raves." "Not drunk or mad," cried the pauper, "But only a hunted beast, Who, torn by the hounds and mangled, Declines the vulture's feast." "Keep your hands off me, curse you! Hear me right out to the end. You come here to see how paupers The season of Christmas spend. You come here to watch us feeding, As they watch the captured beast. Hear why a penniless pauper Spits on your paltry feast. "Do you think I will take your bounty, And let you smile and think You're doing a noble action With the parish's meat and drink? Where's my wife, you traitors -- The poor old wife you slew? Yes, by the God above us, My Nance was killed by you! "Last winter my wife lay dying, Starved in a filthy den; I had never been to the parish, -- I came to the parish then. I swallowed my pride in coming, For, ere the ruin came, I held up my head as a trader, And I bore a spotless name. "I came to the parish, craving Bread for a starving wife, Bread for the woman who'd loved me Through fifty years of life; And what do you think they told me, Mocking my awful grief? That the House' was open to us, But they wouldn't give out relief.' "I slunk to the filthy alley -- 'Twas a cold, raw Christmas eve -- And the bakers' shops were open, Tempting a man to thieve; But I clenched my fists together, Holding my head awry, So I came to her empty-handed And mournfully told her why. "Then I told her 'the House' was open; She had heard of the ways of that, For her bloodless cheeks went crimson, And up in her rags she sat, Crying, 'Bide the Christmas here, John, We've never had one apart; I think I can bear the hunger, -- The other would break my heart.' "All through that eve I watched her, Holding her hand in mine, Praying the Lord, and weeping, Till my lips were salt as brine. I asked her once if she hungered, And as she answered 'No,' The moon shone in at the window Set in a wreath of snow. "Then the room was bathed in glory, And I saw in my darling's eyes The far-away look of wonder That comes when the spirit flies; And her lips were parched and parted, And her reason came and went, For she raved of our home in Devon, Where our happiest years were spent. "And the accents long forgotten, Came back to the tongue once more, For she talked like the country lassie I woo'd by the Devon shore. Then she rose to her feet and trembled, And fell on the rags and moaned, And, 'Give me a crust -- I'm famished -- For the love of God!' she groaned. "I rushed from the room like a madman, And flew to the workhouse gate, Crying, 'Food for a dying woman!' And the answer came, 'Too late.' They drove me away with curses; Then I fought with a dog in the street, And tore from the mongrel's clutches A crust he was trying to eat. "Back, through the filthy by-lanes! Back, through the trampled slush! Up to the crazy garret, Wrapped in an awful hush. My heart sank down at the threshold, And I paused with a sudden thrill, For there in the silv'ry moonlight My Nance lay, cold and still. "Up to the blackened ceiling The sunken eyes were cast -- I knew on those lips all bloodless My name had been the last; She'd called for her absent husband -- O God! had I but known! -- Had called in vain, and in anguish, Had died in that den -- alone. "Yes, there, in a land of plenty, Lay a loving woman dead, Cruelly starved and murdered For a loaf of the parish bread. At yonder gate, last Christmas, I craved for a human life. You, who would feast us paupers, What of my murdered wife!

No James O'Neil/l for 1923 at all. Carmel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janis " <janisdon1@westnet.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 9:10 PM Subject: Inquest Lookup please > Could anyone who has an inquest CD for Vic please have a look and c if > there > is an inquest for :- > > > > Surname: ONEILL > > Given Names: James > > Father: Oneill James > > Mother: Mary HILLAN > > Death Place: CMAINE > > Age: 86 > > Year: 1923 > > Reg Number: 14127 > > Event: D > > Or if there were any inquests for an O'Neil(l) about the 7 May 1923 > > TIA > > Janis > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > The mailing list for the golden triangle of Ballarat, Bendigo and > Maryborough VICTORIA > >

Digger - Inquest Index. Victoria 1840 - 1985 Query ----- Surname : virtue (18 matches) Total matching records: 18 -------------------- Surname: VIRTUE Given Names: Frederick Age: Place: Winchelsea Year: 1881 Reference: 1365 Sex: Cause: Fall From Horse Occupation: Inq Date: Nationality: Ship: Notes: Carmel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Gregurke" <janetgregurke59@hotmail.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 8:50 PM Subject: inquest lookup > Could skp with an inquest cd please lookup a death for Fredrick Oscar > Vertue born Ballarat 1864, died abt 1881 Winchelsea aged 17. thank you. > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > Do NOT send virus warnings <- considered off-topic. > >

Thanks anyway for your time. Janis

Could anyone who has an inquest CD for Vic please have a look and c if there is an inquest for :- Surname: ONEILL Given Names: James Father: Oneill James Mother: Mary HILLAN Death Place: CMAINE Age: 86 Year: 1923 Reg Number: 14127 Event: D Or if there were any inquests for an O'Neil(l) about the 7 May 1923 TIA Janis

Hello Janis, That's a big ask - firstly there are no CDs for the Geelong Cemeteries - at the moment on fiche only but hopefully on-line before too long. If someone had the fiche they might offer to do a look up but as there are 174 entries for O'NEIL, O'NEILL & O'NEILLE then you can see that you're asking too much from SKS. I suggest you have a look at the on-line index on my web site at ....... http://www.zades.com.au/geelong/gdcmsrc1.asp and at least narrow down the entries. This index covers all the cemeteries administered by the Geelong Cemeteries Trust as well as other cemeteries in the region. At least with the index you should be able to work out from the First Names, year of burial and location if they are possibly part of your family. Please also make sure to follow the links explaining various entries, those with an asterisk, etc. etc. For non-Geelong ones there are many that include full Burial Registers as well as Headstone Transcriptions. If you're doing a lot of research in Geelong then you might want to join the Geelong & District Mailing list as well. Regards ......... Susie Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janis " <janisdon1@westnet.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 5:03 PM Subject: Cemetery Look up > If anyone has the Geelong Cemetery CD's (if there are any). Could they > please look up any O'Neil(l)s that are buried there > > TIA > > Janis > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > Threaded archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/aus-vic-goldfields > >

If anyone has the Geelong Cemetery CD's (if there are any). Could they please look up any O'Neil(l)s that are buried there TIA Janis

I can't find any James O'NEILL/O'NEIL entries for 1923 Janis, sorry! :( This would be the closest in year ... Digger - Inquest Index. Victoria 1840 - 1985 Query ----- Surname : o* (4780 matches) Given Names : james (12426 matches) Total matching records: 288 -------------------- Surname: ONEILL Given Names: James Patrick Age: Place: Year: 1925 Reference: 764 Sex: Cause: Cardiac failure Occupation: Inq Date: 1925-7-17 Nationality: Ship: Notes: IBSSG Stuttgart, Germany Honey's Home of Genealogy www.honeyshome.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Janis To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 11:10 AM Subject: Inquest Lookup please Could anyone who has an inquest CD for Vic please have a look and c if there is an inquest for :- Surname: ONEILL Given Names: James Father: Oneill James Mother: Mary HILLAN Death Place: CMAINE Age: 86 Year: 1923 Reg Number: 14127 Event: D Or if there were any inquests for an O'Neil(l) about the 7 May 1923 TIA Janis ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== The mailing list for the golden triangle of Ballarat, Bendigo and Maryborough VICTORIA

Hi Janet (?) :) Looks like his name was mispelled ... Digger - Inquest Index. Victoria 1840 - 1985 Surname: VIRTUE Given Names: Frederick Age: Place: Winchelsea Year: 1881 Reference: 1365 Sex: Cause: Fall From Horse Occupation: Inq Date: Nationality: Ship: Notes: Take care, Rob. IBSSG Stuttgart, Germany Honey's Home of Genealogy www.honeyshome.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Janet Gregurke To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 10:50 AM Subject: inquest lookup Could skp with an inquest cd please lookup a death for Fredrick Oscar Vertue born Ballarat 1864, died abt 1881 Winchelsea aged 17. thank you. ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== Do NOT send virus warnings <- considered off-topic.

Could skp with an inquest cd please lookup a death for Fredrick Oscar Vertue born Ballarat 1864, died abt 1881 Winchelsea aged 17. thank you.

Hi Graham, Possibly one of Jane's sisters may have raised him. Perhaps little Edward took on the new surname. There is a Attfield brother as well. Jane's sister's... Digger - Edwardian Index. Victoria 1902-1913 Surname: MCFARLANE Given Names: Susan Event: D Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Attfield Edwd Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Charl SEARLE Age: 69 Age Code: Birth Place: Death Place: Tgon Year: 1905 Reg. Number: 14498 married to John Lorie Cambel MacFarlane (sic) Digger - Edwardian Index. Victoria 1902-1913 Surname: BIRCH Given Names: Emma Event: D Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Attfield Edw Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Unknown UNKNOWN Age: 68 Age Code: Birth Place: Death Place: Prn Year: 1904 Reg. Number: 10202 Digger - Great War Index. Victoria 1914-1920 Surname: ATTFIELD Given Names: Chas Event: D Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Attfield Edw Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Chtte SERRELL Age: 67 Age Code: Birth Place: Death Place: S Yarra Year: 1919 Reg. Number: 3816 marriages of the ATTFIELD siblings... Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 Surname: ATTFIELD Given Names: Emma Event: M Spouse Surname/Father: BIRCH Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Edward Age: Sex: F Birth Place: Death Place: Year: 1855 Reg Number: 1313 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: ATTFIELD Given Names: Susan Event: M Spouse Surname/Father: MACFARLANE Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: John Age: Sex: F Birth Place: Death Place: Year: 1856 Reg Number: 3761 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: ATTFIELD Given Names: Fanny Event: M Spouse Surname/Father: REED Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Robert Age: Sex: F Birth Place: Death Place: Year: 1864 Reg Number: 4449 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: ATTFIELD Given Names: Jane Event: M Spouse Surname/Father: MCNAB Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Richard Borrowman Age: Sex: Birth Place: WINDLESHAM Death Place: Year: 1867 Reg Number: 3077 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: ATTFIELD Given Names: Charles Event: M Spouse Surname/Father: DONOVAN Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Bridget Age: Sex: M Birth Place: SURREY Death Place: Year: 1879 Reg Number: 3681 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: ****************************************** I've had a quick look under the sister's married names to find Edward Robert, but nothing so far. I'm about to rush off to work, so I'll dig around some more tomorrow. Kind regards, Sherrie. Sydney, NSW On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 14:54:07 +1100, Doris & Graham Brittain <iona9@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > Good Afternoon > > We would like to know details of the following 2 year old boy. > > His name is Edward Robert McNAB b 27.4.1868 at Prahran, father Richard > Borrowman McNAB b 14.2.1841 in Dundee Scotland d 13.7.1870 at Amherst > Hospital. He married Jane ATTFIELD b 10.2.1839 in Surrey England d > 18.6.1868 at Prahran. The marriage was at Amherst on 10.8.1867. > > Edward was a twin of Archibald who lived for 5 minutes. Jane died 2 > months later. Richard died when Edward was 2 year old, and there the > mystery begins. > > Great compassion would have been needed for someone to take up the task > of rearing him. > > Regards > > Graham Brittain > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > Victorian place names database > http://www.rootsweb.com/~auswgw/vic_place_names.htm > >