Another not listed THOMAS died at Richmond 10yrs. 1869 7268 Deaths ELIZABETH 1 Melb 1867 8881 Margaret

ELEANOR Richmond 1856 11686 ELIZABETH " 1866 4472 KATE ' 1861 6781 MARY ALICE " 1863 22556 GEORGE LEONARD C"WOOD 1874 1665 VICTOR WATTS " 1876 15111 LOUISE MARTHA MELB 1855 3824 SAML CHAS S. MELB 1868 18124 ----- Original Message ----- From: <WFFELLOWS@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 6:45 AM Subject: Parsons by name not occupation > > I'm looking for any information on Samuel Parsons and his wife Eleanor nee > Leonard. > I know of one child Louisa Martha b 1855 likely in Ballarat or Euroa. > > Any hope of a kind lister with Digger who could look up and other siblings > for me? > > Grateful for your help > > Wendy > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this mailing list send the word 'unsubscribe' in > the body of a message to AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L-request@rootsweb.com >

Should add from Argus 1872-1879. Margaret

Would anyone please have the volumes for Deaths at the Alfred Hospital and The Melbourne Benevolent Asylum compiled by Terry Foenander? I have found refereence to death at Alfred for JAMES RAY book 1, page 32 Melbourne Hospital Index JOHN REA vOLUME 3, PAGE 34. I have my fingers crossed. Thanks Margaret

Hi to everyone In 2003 I was trying to find out about Hugh Louis Zephyr DOWNEY, my great grandfather. Lots of help came from people on the list but eventually the brick wall rose and I moved to research on other lines. About two months ago my sister suggested I put a request on the Desperately Seeking page of the Melbourne Herald Sun Sunday paper. It worked. Just a fortnight ago I received an email from a descendent in Melbourne who had been trying to find the NZ family. We have been in contact and I now have found an enormous Australian family. I thought this advice might help others break down their brick walls too.

At 06:01 24-11-05, Janine Dale wrote: >To add to the inquest discussion, I have a death cert for a g g >grandfather who died at Axedale 1884. The cert states there was an >inquest into his death. >This inquest also does not appear on my Vic inquest cd. It appears >the index has many missing entries. <snip> Hello Listers, The inquest index was a transcription from original departmental indexes which originals had all the ommissions and errors of any index. When I was working on the Supreme Court Equity Case Files, Because I had to sort a dreadful mess of mixed up and broken files, I sought the Supreme Court indexes available and compared what I found in the files with the few surviving indexes which had a partial coverage of the cases. I found, from a so-called complete file for one part of the files, the so-called "Miscellaneous Files", many discrepancies.In comparing the first 4,000 files in that series: 340+ files not included in the original index 47 completely mis-transcribed surname titles (not even lateral thinking would have helped here) 30 indexed under the wrong file number (number ommissions and duplicate numbers) and other minor difficulties. These were found by a physical examination of each file, cross-referencing case numbers, surnames, dates, etc from my listing with the official listing. INQUESTS: The same has been found by the lass who did the original combined departmental inquest index which has been available on microfiche. Last year she was doing for the inquest files what I had been doing for ten years with the 12,000 Equity case files. I sat next to her on many occasions, and she was working through the mis-transcribed names, the files ommitted from the original departmental indexes, the "cause of death" ommitted from the original indexes, etc. I believe, when she has finished (a BIG job) the index will be re-issued and brought up to date. An enquiry to MacBeth's Genealogical publishers might be able to suggest a date for this, though Marge had been working on it once a week for a full day in 2004, I have not been at my usual place at the VPRO in 2005, and my own work has been "on hold". Hence I have lost touch with progress. regards, Ada Ackerly, Melbourne, Australia formerly Ackerly DocuSearch -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.7/180 - Release Date: 23-11-05

Does anyone have the WHITE HILLS CEMETERY MEMORIALS microfiche who could do a lookup for me? The BCT database search comes up with nothing. I have a DC for John McGINNIS d. 16 March 1889 aged 60 yrs in Sandhurst Hopsital who was buried in White Hills Cemetery. His DC gives no other details to help me identify him. Of course, if he had no kin he may not have been given a headstone. Are there any other records for White Hills that could help me? -- Best regards, Julie in Cairns Interests - John McGINNIS or HAYBURN John WILLIAMS Christopher and Eliza BURKE all mainly Marong/Eaglehawk area 1852 - 1890's mailto:tropikkal@mytown.net.au

Here is a good example of a death where the parents names were left out even though they were well known to the authorities. Surname: KELLY Given Names: Edward Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: U Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Age: 28 Sex: Birth Place: U Death Place: Year: 1880 Reg Number: 10661 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Off topic I know. Regards Les -----Original Message----- From: Carmel M Reynen [mailto:fcfibre1@bigpond.com] Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2005 9:01 AM To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: inquests they are possibly there and could be the spelling, not that I am arguing with you Janine because you may still be right and probably are. I have also found a lot of entices on the indexes in general missing. One of the problems with inquests too is that when the death is entered often there is no mention of who the parents are even if it is a young child. I find this with hospital deaths as well. But then again this could be a generalisation and just my thoughts. Carmel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janine Dale" <robbienjan@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 6:01 AM Subject: inquests > To add to the inquest discussion, I have a death cert for a g g > grandfather who died at Axedale 1884. The cert states there was an inquest > into his death. > This inquest also does not appear on my Vic inquest cd. It appears the > index has many missing entries. > > Janine > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > Practice good internet genealogy - always be polite plus say 'thank you' > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== Victorian place names database http://www.rootsweb.com/~auswgw/vic_place_names.htm -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.5/178 - Release Date: 22/11/2005

they are possibly there and could be the spelling, not that I am arguing with you Janine because you may still be right and probably are. I have also found a lot of entices on the indexes in general missing. One of the problems with inquests too is that when the death is entered often there is no mention of who the parents are even if it is a young child. I find this with hospital deaths as well. But then again this could be a generalisation and just my thoughts. Carmel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janine Dale" <robbienjan@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 6:01 AM Subject: inquests > To add to the inquest discussion, I have a death cert for a g g > grandfather who died at Axedale 1884. The cert states there was an inquest > into his death. > This inquest also does not appear on my Vic inquest cd. It appears the > index has many missing entries. > > Janine > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > Practice good internet genealogy - always be polite plus say 'thank you' > >

Here you are Wendy, quite a few births and a couple of deaths. Regards Les Pitt Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 Query ----- Surname : parsons (1037 matches) Spouse Surname/Fathe : s* (76568 matches) Total matching records: 62 -------------------- Surname: PARSONS Given Names: Louisa Martha Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Samuel Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Eleanor LEONARD Age: Sex: Birth Place: MELBOURNE Death Place: Year: 1855 Reg Number: 3824 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: PARSONS Given Names: Eleanor Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Samuel Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Eleanor LEONARD Age: Sex: Birth Place: RICHMOND Death Place: Year: 1856 Reg Number: 11686 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: PARSONS Given Names: Thomas Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Samuel Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Eleanor LEONARD Age: Sex: Birth Place: RICHMOND Death Place: Year: 1859 Reg Number: 1463 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: PARSONS Given Names: Kate Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Samuel Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Eleanor LEONARD Age: Sex: Birth Place: RICHMOND Death Place: Year: 1861 Reg Number: 6781 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: PARSONS Given Names: Mary Alice Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Samuel Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Eleanor LEONARD Age: Sex: Birth Place: RICH Death Place: Year: 1863 Reg Number: 22556 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: PARSONS Given Names: Elizabeth Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Samuel Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Eleanor LEONARD Age: Sex: Birth Place: RICHMOND Death Place: Year: 1866 Reg Number: 4472 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: PARSONS Given Names: Saml Chas Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Samuel Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ellinor LEONARD Age: Sex: Birth Place: S MELB Death Place: Year: 1868 Reg Number: 18124 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: PARSONS Given Names: George Leonard Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Samuel Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Eleanor LEONARD Age: Sex: Birth Place: CWOOD Death Place: Year: 1874 Reg Number: 1665 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: PARSONS Given Names: Victor Watts Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Samuel Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ellenor LEONARD Age: Sex: Birth Place: CO LL Death Place: Year: 1876 Reg Number: 15111 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: PARSONS Given Names: Elizabeth Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: Samuel Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ellen LENARD Age: 1 Sex: Birth Place: MELB Death Place: Year: 1867 Reg Number: 8881 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: PARSONS Given Names: Thomas Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: Samuel Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Eleanor LEONARD Age: 10 Sex: Birth Place: RICHMOND Death Place: Year: 1869 Reg Number: 7268 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: -----Original Message----- From: WFFELLOWS@optusnet.com.au [mailto:WFFELLOWS@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2005 6:46 AM To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Parsons by name not occupation I'm looking for any information on Samuel Parsons and his wife Eleanor nee Leonard. I know of one child Louisa Martha b 1855 likely in Ballarat or Euroa. Any hope of a kind lister with Digger who could look up and other siblings for me? Grateful for your help Wendy ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from this mailing list send the word 'unsubscribe' in the body of a message to AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L-request@rootsweb.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.5/178 - Release Date: 22/11/2005

Do you realise you can look up the NSW indexes on line at http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/search.htm? (deaths to 1974). Your man is there, although it doesn't mention whether there was an inquest, but then you can order a certificate for $24 or get a transcription (cheaper) through one of the agents. Jo ----- Original Message ----- From: Janis To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 7:43 PM Subject: NSW look up please Could someone with the death NSW index please look up John O'Neill died 1923 in Scone, parents John and Mary and also if there was an inquest into this death. TIA Janis ______________________________

I'm looking for any information on Samuel Parsons and his wife Eleanor nee Leonard. I know of one child Louisa Martha b 1855 likely in Ballarat or Euroa. Any hope of a kind lister with Digger who could look up and other siblings for me? Grateful for your help Wendy

To add to the inquest discussion, I have a death cert for a g g grandfather who died at Axedale 1884. The cert states there was an inquest into his death. This inquest also does not appear on my Vic inquest cd. It appears the index has many missing entries. Janine

Yes I do realise this but was hoping to get his age, so that I don't get another dud. Thanks anyway for replying Janis

Many thanks for trying, Carmel! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carmel M Reynen" <fcfibre1@bigpond.com> To: "trevor" <tjwilliams@iinet.net.au>; <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 10:18 PM Subject: Re: Another sulky accident! | Trevor | I tried a number of spellings in the inquest index etc but no luck with | Robert. I tried just Robert and the year still nothing. I tried death | indexes also without luck. Maybe they don't like sulky accidents!!! | Carmel | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "trevor" <tjwilliams@iinet.net.au> | To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> | Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 7:57 PM | Subject: Another sulky accident! | | | >I have been following the sulky accident drama with some interest because I | > have a similar fatality and would love to find out if there were an | > inquest, | > and how I go about finding its outcome. | > | > Robert Sargeant Peters, who was in Tarnagulla and district from 1855, and | > who married Mary Jane Falder, daughter of the well-known Jonathon Falder, | > eventually took up land in South Gippsland when it was being opened up. | > | > He was killed when his buggy hit a tree stump on the night of 10th June | > 1896, in the vicinity of Bass, Vic. | > | > How do I find an inquest, if one were held? I would be grateful for any | > guidance. | > | > Trevor | > | > PS: The following news clipping is among family papers: | > | > KILLED INSTANTLY BY A CAPSIZE | > Grantville, Wednesday | > While returning from San Remo last evening, | > after giving evidence before the Railways Com- | > mittee in reference to the proposed Bass Valley | > line, Mr R,S, Peters, while driving with Mr | > P. Baker, home through Mr Anderson's pad- | > dock, met with a fatal accident. The buggy | > capsized over a stump, killing Mr Peters, whose | > neck was broken in the fall, instantly. Mr | > Baker escaped with a slight injury to his back. | > The deceased had been a resident of Bass for 18 | > years, and was much respected. | > - Publication and date, | > not known. | > | > | > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== | > Do NOT send virus warnings <- considered off-topic. | > | > |

Yep, there WAS more, there was a spelling variation in Eleanor's name ... PARSONS, Victor Watts CB 1608393 Birth Father: Samuel Mother: Leonard Ellenor Event Place: Co Ll Reg Year: 1876 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 15111 PARSONS, Saml Chas CB 1608244 Birth Father: Samuel Mother: Leonard Ellinor Event Place: S.Melb Reg Year: 1868 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 18124 I'm pretty sure that's got them all, unless there's any variations on the surname PARSONS? If so, let me know and I'll check again! :D Take care, Rob. IBSSG Stuttgart, Germany Honey's Home of Genealogy www.honeyshome.com ----- Original Message ----- From: WFFELLOWS@optusnet.com.au To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 8:45 PM Subject: Parsons by name not occupation I'm looking for any information on Samuel Parsons and his wife Eleanor nee Leonard. I know of one child Louisa Martha b 1855 likely in Ballarat or Euroa. Any hope of a kind lister with Digger who could look up and other siblings for me? Grateful for your help Wendy ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from this mailing list send the word 'unsubscribe' in the body of a message to AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L-request@rootsweb.com

Hi Wendy :) I found all these first search, shall try some "variations" to see if there's anymore shortly ... PARSONS, Eleanor CB 1607360 Birth Father: Samuel Mother: Leonard Eleanor Event Place: Richmond Reg Year: 1856 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 11686 PARSONS, Elizabeth CB 1607401 Birth Father: Samuel Mother: Leonard Eleanor Event Place: Richmond Reg Year: 1866 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 4472 PARSONS, George Leonard CB 1607667 Birth Father: Samuel Mother: Leonard Eleanor Event Place: C'Wood Reg Year: 1874 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 1665 PARSONS, Kate CB 1607949 Birth Father: Samuel Mother: Leonard Eleanor Event Place: Richmond Reg Year: 1861 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 6781 PARSONS, Louisa Martha CB 1607988 Birth Father: Samuel Mother: Leonard Eleanor Event Place: Melbourne Reg Year: 1855 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 3824 PARSONS, Mary Alice CB 1608078 Birth Father: Samuel Mother: Leonard Eleanor Event Place: Rich Reg Year: 1863 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 22556 Take care, Rob. IBSSG Stuttgart, Germany Honey's Home of Genealogy www.honeyshome.com ----- Original Message ----- From: WFFELLOWS@optusnet.com.au To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 8:45 PM Subject: Parsons by name not occupation I'm looking for any information on Samuel Parsons and his wife Eleanor nee Leonard. I know of one child Louisa Martha b 1855 likely in Ballarat or Euroa. Any hope of a kind lister with Digger who could look up and other siblings for me? Grateful for your help Wendy ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from this mailing list send the word 'unsubscribe' in the body of a message to AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L-request@rootsweb.com

Trevor I tried a number of spellings in the inquest index etc but no luck with Robert. I tried just Robert and the year still nothing. I tried death indexes also without luck. Maybe they don't like sulky accidents!!! Carmel ----- Original Message ----- From: "trevor" <tjwilliams@iinet.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 7:57 PM Subject: Another sulky accident! >I have been following the sulky accident drama with some interest because I > have a similar fatality and would love to find out if there were an > inquest, > and how I go about finding its outcome. > > Robert Sargeant Peters, who was in Tarnagulla and district from 1855, and > who married Mary Jane Falder, daughter of the well-known Jonathon Falder, > eventually took up land in South Gippsland when it was being opened up. > > He was killed when his buggy hit a tree stump on the night of 10th June > 1896, in the vicinity of Bass, Vic. > > How do I find an inquest, if one were held? I would be grateful for any > guidance. > > Trevor > > PS: The following news clipping is among family papers: > > KILLED INSTANTLY BY A CAPSIZE > Grantville, Wednesday > While returning from San Remo last evening, > after giving evidence before the Railways Com- > mittee in reference to the proposed Bass Valley > line, Mr R,S, Peters, while driving with Mr > P. Baker, home through Mr Anderson's pad- > dock, met with a fatal accident. The buggy > capsized over a stump, killing Mr Peters, whose > neck was broken in the fall, instantly. Mr > Baker escaped with a slight injury to his back. > The deceased had been a resident of Bass for 18 > years, and was much respected. > - Publication and date, > not known. > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > Do NOT send virus warnings <- considered off-topic. > >

I have been following the sulky accident drama with some interest because I have a similar fatality and would love to find out if there were an inquest, and how I go about finding its outcome. Robert Sargeant Peters, who was in Tarnagulla and district from 1855, and who married Mary Jane Falder, daughter of the well-known Jonathon Falder, eventually took up land in South Gippsland when it was being opened up. He was killed when his buggy hit a tree stump on the night of 10th June 1896, in the vicinity of Bass, Vic. How do I find an inquest, if one were held? I would be grateful for any guidance. Trevor PS: The following news clipping is among family papers: KILLED INSTANTLY BY A CAPSIZE Grantville, Wednesday While returning from San Remo last evening, after giving evidence before the Railways Com- mittee in reference to the proposed Bass Valley line, Mr R,S, Peters, while driving with Mr P. Baker, home through Mr Anderson's pad- dock, met with a fatal accident. The buggy capsized over a stump, killing Mr Peters, whose neck was broken in the fall, instantly. Mr Baker escaped with a slight injury to his back. The deceased had been a resident of Bass for 18 years, and was much respected. - Publication and date, not known.

Could someone with the death NSW index please look up John O'Neill died 1923 in Scone, parents John and Mary and also if there was an inquest into this death. TIA Janis