Does anyone on the list have an interest in , or information about, the HORANS at Golden Square? The main related families were HOGAN, MACKINS and MERIGAN. They arrived in the 1850s. Joseph Michael and his wife Bridget became the licensees of the Hibernian Hotel soon after their arrival. He later became a carter and they both lived in Panton St until the late 1880s. Joseph's sister Catherine HOGAN was a widow who arrived with her sons Patrick, Thomas, Kieran and Rody HOGAN about the same time. Another widowed sister, Honora MACKINS and her five children also came to Golden Square in the 1850s In addition to these there was a neice, Honora MERIGAN, She and her husband, Andrew MERIGAN, at one stage were the licencees of the Golden Square Hotel in High St., Golden Square. Tony O'Grady Melbourne.

What a brilliant display Trevor ;thank you very much for the instructions to see them. I wonder hw many of those buildings are extant? Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "trevor" <tjwilliams@iinet.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 2:14 PM Subject: 1860 Photographs of Dunolly > Because of my special interests, I was delighted to see some photographs > (ambrotype) on display, taken in 1860/61 of Dunolly and Burnt Creek > (Bromley) by Charles Dicker. > > I

Good evening Today we were given a lead on John Loru Cawble Macfarlane, who has been a trifle elusive to say the least. The clue is that he was brought out from Scotland with others, because of his mining skills, and was in some way connected to Ballarat. He had teaching skills of some sort. The story is that one of his grandsons many years ago went to Ballarat to veiw a plarque bearing his name in recognition of something he achieved, possibly in the teaching field. We would be really pleased if there were some leads in this direction, the plarque may still be around. Regards Graham Brittain

Kevin, you almost caused me to have severe heart palpitations when I read Whitfield. I thought don't tell me some one is finally looking for Whitfield's. Unfortunately your Whitfields are different from mine. My lot where at Creswick and Mitiamo and came from Allendale Northumberland. Good luck with your search. Dianne Hughes Teesdale Victoria

Trevor Thankyou for this reference. Charles Dicker is the brother of my G G grandfather, Francis Manly Dicker. It is almost 12 months to the day that I found / visited the grave of Charles at the Dunolly Cemetery. Again thanks for this reference Fred Harrington ----- Original Message ----- From: "trevor" <tjwilliams@iinet.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 2:14 PM Subject: 1860 Photographs of Dunolly > About 3 months ago, I went in to the State Library to see an exhibition > (nearly finished) entitled, "The Changing Face of Victoria". This is on > Level 5 of the reading room, under the magnificently restored dome which is > worth a trip in to the city for its own sake. (Accessible by lift.) > > Because of my special interests, I was delighted to see some photographs > (ambrotype) on display, taken in 1860/61 of Dunolly and Burnt Creek > (Bromley) by Charles Dicker. > > I enquired at the reference desk re cost of copies. $35 for black and white > and $85 for colour reproductions were the figures I was given. I won't be > ordering any. Well, I might consider just one! > > The good news, for those who cannot get into the exhibition, is that you can > see the pictures on line. Not as clear as the real thing, but good > nevertheless. > > If you go to the State Library of Victoria's catalogue at > http://www.slv.vic.gov.au then click on "Catalogues and Databases" and then > click on "Pictures Catalogue" you will be led to a search window. > > Enter the search term Dicker and you will come to the above mentioned > collection, plus a few others of his photographs in the SLV. > > Click on each thumbnail for a better view of each picture. It is worth > reading the full bibliographic description too. To do this, click on "View > record for this item". > > I think they are worth a look because of they portray the town at the time > when the municipality was gazetted and land sales of town blocks were under > way. > > Recommended for all with an interest in Dunolly. > > Trevor > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > Practice good internet genealogy - always be polite plus say 'thank you' > > >

Julie, I live a few blocks from the convent you mention. I could take a digital photo of it if you wish and email it to you. It is a very, very large building and it would be difficult to get a full view in just one picture. The Little Sisters of the Poor still run an old peoples' home in the grounds, within a much smaller modern building. The remainder of the old convent buildings are now owned and run by the Greek Orthodox Church. The sisters who live on site are now very elderly and might not be up to searching out the records and replying. I make an annual donation to their work, and can vouch that sometimes they even have trouble with managing receipt writing! Trevor ----- Original Message ----- From: "margaret trewick" <margaretwh@dodo.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 1:34 PM Subject: Re: MARY CATHERINE NEYLAN | Julie | I wrote to and had my reply from Sr Bridget Anne Isp | Religious Superior | Little Sisters of the Proor | PO Box 117 | Northcote Vic 3070 | Phone 03 9489 8444 Fax 03 9489 1302 | | As I was asking about a nun and got the reply from the Religious Supewrior, | you may be better off just writing to the Order at that asddress, and see | who they direct it to. | Good luck. | Margaret | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Julie" <tropikkal@mytown.net.au> | To: "margaret trewick" <margaretwh@dodo.com.au> | Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 1:12 PM | Subject: Re: MARY CATHERINE NEYLAN | | | > Hello Margaret, | > | > Saturday, November 26, 2005, 11:24:11 AM, you wrote: | > | > mt> The family in Ireland said she went to join a convent, they | > mt> thought "The Little Sisters of ther Poor" but I have written to | > mt> them and they said no record of her. | > | > A g/g/uncle died at "The Little Sisters of the Poor" at Northcote in 1903. | > I hadn't thought of writing to them - what do you suggest? | > | > -- | > Best regards, | > Julie in Cairns mailto:tropikkal@mytown.net.au | > | | | | ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== | Support RootsWeb and help it support genealogy | http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html

About 3 months ago, I went in to the State Library to see an exhibition (nearly finished) entitled, "The Changing Face of Victoria". This is on Level 5 of the reading room, under the magnificently restored dome which is worth a trip in to the city for its own sake. (Accessible by lift.) Because of my special interests, I was delighted to see some photographs (ambrotype) on display, taken in 1860/61 of Dunolly and Burnt Creek (Bromley) by Charles Dicker. I enquired at the reference desk re cost of copies. $35 for black and white and $85 for colour reproductions were the figures I was given. I won't be ordering any. Well, I might consider just one! The good news, for those who cannot get into the exhibition, is that you can see the pictures on line. Not as clear as the real thing, but good nevertheless. If you go to the State Library of Victoria's catalogue at http://www.slv.vic.gov.au then click on "Catalogues and Databases" and then click on "Pictures Catalogue" you will be led to a search window. Enter the search term Dicker and you will come to the above mentioned collection, plus a few others of his photographs in the SLV. Click on each thumbnail for a better view of each picture. It is worth reading the full bibliographic description too. To do this, click on "View record for this item". I think they are worth a look because of they portray the town at the time when the municipality was gazetted and land sales of town blocks were under way. Recommended for all with an interest in Dunolly. Trevor

Answered Trevor offline re "Little Sisters of the Poor" at Northcote. The thread was getting a bit long! -- Best regards, Julie in Cairns mailto:tropikkal@mytown.net.au

Julie I wrote to and had my reply from Sr Bridget Anne Isp Religious Superior Little Sisters of the Proor PO Box 117 Northcote Vic 3070 Phone 03 9489 8444 Fax 03 9489 1302 As I was asking about a nun and got the reply from the Religious Supewrior, you may be better off just writing to the Order at that asddress, and see who they direct it to. Good luck. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie" <tropikkal@mytown.net.au> To: "margaret trewick" <margaretwh@dodo.com.au> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 1:12 PM Subject: Re: MARY CATHERINE NEYLAN > Hello Margaret, > > Saturday, November 26, 2005, 11:24:11 AM, you wrote: > > mt> The family in Ireland said she went to join a convent, they > mt> thought "The Little Sisters of ther Poor" but I have written to > mt> them and they said no record of her. > > A g/g/uncle died at "The Little Sisters of the Poor" at Northcote in 1903. > I hadn't thought of writing to them - what do you suggest? > > -- > Best regards, > Julie in Cairns mailto:tropikkal@mytown.net.au >

Thank you for the replies so far. I should have added that Mary Catherine's parents were Thomas Neylan and Mary Roughan who were married in Quin and Clooney Church , Clare Ireland in 1848. Mary was born on 13.1.1866. Margaret

Thank you to all who replied about this cemetery location. My main problem is I do not know Victoria and therefore am not familiar with the cemetery names or areas. I appreciate all the help that comes from the people on this site. Regards Margaret

Mary arrived on the" Sorata "1885 with her brother Michael. The family in Ireland said she went to join a convent, they thought "The Little Sisters of ther Poor" but I have written to them and they said no record of her. Does anyone please have suggestions where I may be able to find which order she joined, so that I may find her death and burial place. Thanks Margaret

However I did find these. Les Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 Query ----- Event : d (418821 matches) Spouse Surname/Fathe : tierney (150 matches) Spouse Gvn Names/Mot : ryan (7044 matches) Total matching records: 2 -------------------- Surname: BAKER Given Names: Mary Anne Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: Tierney Michae Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary RYAN Age: 25 Sex: Birth Place: KIL Death Place: Year: 1860 Reg Number: 7609 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: GUTHRIE Given Names: Mary Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: Tierney Michae Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Bridget RYAN Age: 28 Sex: Birth Place: CLAR Death Place: Year: 1875 Reg Number: 12091 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: -----Original Message----- From: Janis [mailto:janisdon1@westnet.com.au] Sent: Saturday, 26 November 2005 1:17 AM To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: Look up please Les Thank you but it was Bridget Ryan the mother Janis ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== Threaded archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/aus-vic-goldfields -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: 25/11/2005

Thanks for your trouble anyway Les

Sorry Janis, I can find no births (or deaths) where the mothers name was Bridget Ryan. Lots of Bridgets married Tierneys but no Ryan. Sorry can't help. Regrds Les -----Original Message----- From: Janis [mailto:janisdon1@westnet.com.au] Sent: Saturday, 26 November 2005 1:17 AM To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: Look up please Les Thank you but it was Bridget Ryan the mother Janis ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== Threaded archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/aus-vic-goldfields -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: 25/11/2005

Janis, There you are, looks like they were born around the Bendigo area, where I believe Axedale is located, could be wrong. Regards Les Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 Query ----- Surname : tierney (453 matches) Spouse Surname/Fathe : mi* (29244 matches) Spouse Gvn Names/Mot : br* (58061 matches) Total matching records: 8 -------------------- Surname: TIERNEY Given Names: Mary Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Michael Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Bridget MCKENNY Age: Sex: Birth Place: AXEDALE Death Place: Year: 1873 Reg Number: 13977 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: TIERNEY Given Names: Michael Patrick Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Michael Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Bridget MCKENNY Age: Sex: Birth Place: AXED Death Place: Year: 1875 Reg Number: 167 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: TIERNEY Given Names: James Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Michael Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Bridget MCKENNEY Age: Sex: Birth Place: AX ED Death Place: Year: 1876 Reg Number: 13415 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: TIERNEY Given Names: Catherine Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Michl Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Bridget MCKENNY Age: Sex: Birth Place: AXEDALE Death Place: Year: 1880 Reg Number: 6087 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: TIERNEY Given Names: Peter Joseph Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Michael Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Bridget MCKENNY Age: Sex: Birth Place: AXED Death Place: Year: 1882 Reg Number: 20458 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: TIERNEY Given Names: Elizabeth Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Michael Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Bridget MCKENNY Age: Sex: Birth Place: AXED Death Place: Year: 1884 Reg Number: 21946 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: -----Original Message----- From: Janis [mailto:janisdon1@westnet.com.au] Sent: Friday, 25 November 2005 8:11 PM To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Look up please Could some kind person please look up the births and deaths of Patrick , Mary, Bridget , Michael Tierney with parents Bridget Ryan and Michael Tierney. They were all deceased on their mother Bridget's death certificate in 1885. They may have been born in Ireland. They lived around Warrenheip, Dunnstown area. If someone has the Buninyong Cemetery index could they please look up Michael Tierney as I cannot find him. It appears that he died before his wife Bridget, but he is not buried with her at the new cemetery in Ballarat, only the surviving son Austin is there. TIA Janis in hot South Hedland WA ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== Practice safe genealogy - don't include the personal details of the living. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.7/182 - Release Date: 24/11/2005

Les Thank you but it was Bridget Ryan the mother Janis

Perhaps, will look into it further Janis

John the site I sent on is for all cemeteries in Australia. You find the one you want and then takes you to the appropriate site which would have been the one you suggested. if you are looking for a cemetery you may not know an address for you and may not be so easy to find on google but if you go through this cemetery site it has them all. All comes to the same conclusion. Carmel ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Sebire" <john@sebire.org> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 9:35 PM Subject: Re: DEATH AT H'ville > Margaret and Carmel, > a better site to search is http://www.lilydalecemetery.com.au/ which is > the site of the Lilydale Cemetery Trust. The trust looks after the > Lilydale Lawn Cemetery, the Lilydale Memorial Park, the Yarra Glen > Cemetery and the Healesville Cemetery. There are only 2 Reas both buried > at Healesville, James Rea and Mrs Rea at Presbyterian Row D20, > John Sebire, Lilydale, Victoria > > Carmel M Reynen wrote: > >> Margaret >> He is buried at Lilydale. The data is on line >> http://www.ozgenonline.com/aust_cemeteries/ >> I looked at Healesville's and this lead to Lilydale. The deceased search >> will take you straight there. >> Carmel >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "margaret trewick" >> <margaretwh@dodo.com.au> >> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 5:09 PM >> Subject: DEATH AT H'ville >> >> >>> If this means Healsville, could anyone please advise what cemetery would >>> be used for the death of Jas Rea 1914 Ref 1950. Thanks >>> Margaret >>> >>> >>> ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== >>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list send the word 'unsubscribe' in >>> the body of a message to AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L-request@rootsweb.com >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== >> Do NOT send virus warnings <- considered off-topic. >> >> >> > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > Support RootsWeb and help it support genealogy > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > >

Margaret and Carmel, a better site to search is http://www.lilydalecemetery.com.au/ which is the site of the Lilydale Cemetery Trust. The trust looks after the Lilydale Lawn Cemetery, the Lilydale Memorial Park, the Yarra Glen Cemetery and the Healesville Cemetery. There are only 2 Reas both buried at Healesville, James Rea and Mrs Rea at Presbyterian Row D20, John Sebire, Lilydale, Victoria Carmel M Reynen wrote: > Margaret > He is buried at Lilydale. The data is on line > http://www.ozgenonline.com/aust_cemeteries/ > I looked at Healesville's and this lead to Lilydale. The deceased > search will take you straight there. > Carmel > ----- Original Message ----- From: "margaret trewick" > <margaretwh@dodo.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 5:09 PM > Subject: DEATH AT H'ville > > >> If this means Healsville, could anyone please advise what cemetery >> would be used for the death of Jas Rea 1914 Ref 1950. Thanks >> Margaret >> >> >> ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list send the word 'unsubscribe' in >> the body of a message to AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L-request@rootsweb.com >> >> > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > Do NOT send virus warnings <- considered off-topic. > > >