Hi listers, Possibly the government wasn't interested in the names of the diggers, but just made sure that they had a licence and could produce it on demand. Therefore the licence was little more than a receipt for monies paid, rather than a type of identification. Marg Watson. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Cunning <rcun9703@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 6:41 PM Subject: Re: prospectors licenses > I believe, and am happy to be corrected, that the licences did not have a > carbon copy. Therefore, no record as such. > Cheers, Bob in Melbourne >

Do you mean this one from 2002, Ada? === Over the years there has been a blurring of the meaning of "miner's licence" (old), "Miner's 'Right' and the later Lands Dept The first licences in the 1850s. With the finding of gold, the populace was reminded that the "Royal Metals" of gold and silver, belonged to the Crown. A system of licences to dig for gold and receive the value of the gold so exposed was instituted. The first licences were on paper, which disintegrated when it got wet and wore through in its folds. The booklets were printed, much as a raffle ticket, with the larger portion giving all the particulars, and the "stub" giving the minimum: area, date, name. The first licences were issued at a cost of thirty shillings (£1/10/-) PER MONTH! The ticket was taken by the miner, the stub was kept by the authorities. Of course, once the month was over, a new licence was issued, and, by and large, the keeping of these "stubs" would have received low priority over the years. And, as the goldfields were continually shifting, once the stubs were checked against revenue, the reason for keeping tens of thousands of monthly stubs would be of low priority. Consequently few (if any) stubs have survived. In 1852 a 3-month licence cost 40/-. In 1853 a monthly £1 licence was introduced In June 1855 the "Miner's Right" of £1 per year replaced the licence and allowed the miner to occupy "a residence" (as compared with a temporary tent) and an export duty of 2/6 per ounce was placed on gold. The goldfields were made part of electoral districts and the Miner's Right became a qualification for voting. (Already there has been a reference to the 1856 Electoral Roll, which is on individual photographed cards arranged alphabetically and produced by the State Library as a microfiche set. The miner's right allowed the digger to also live on his plot, mainly to protect his claim. Licences were also issued for storekeepers at quite high fees. Totals of diggers licenced on the goldfields (no official totals given until November 1852. Nov 1852 total licences 35,575 Dec 1952 35,469 Jan 1853 33,273 Feb 1853 37,420 Mar 1853 38,473 April 1853 38,473 May 1853 39,261 June 1853 42,269 July 1853 42,800 Aug 1853 39,720 Licenced diggers at the ovens, for example: Oct 1851 was 286, in Nov 1851 was 16,225 and by Dec 1851 was reduced to 4,010, and in Jan 1852 was virtually deserted. As you can see, the gold diggers rushed from one "find" to another, and with the limited number of public servants impervious to the gold fever, the new Victorian government had to priortise activities: if it earned money, if it controlled crime, then the limited manpower was placed there. This is one of the reasons that no passenger lists were kept in the repositories for 1851. The customs and immigration officers were not available. I think there were a couple of directories produced (dates? perhaps Ballarat Family History Group can say?) Some Wardens registers survive, some petitions signed by sometimes hundreds of miners were sent to the Attorney General, Treasury, the Chief Secretary, etc. There are some licence stubs surviving, but not many, and I don't believe any have been indexed. A change came in 1865, when the Land Act, section 42, allowed people to reside on and cultivate land in and around the goldfields under annual licences. Then the 1869 Act, section 49 allowed residence and cultivation on and around goldfields, allowing a licence of three years, had to meet standards of fencing and cultivation, when they could then purchase or continue the lease for seven years, paying off the purchase price. Records of these leases, popularly called "Miner's Rights" have survived as individual history files of these leases through to purchase, and make very interesting reading. === At 11:05 +1100 19/12/05, Ada Ackerly wrote: >Hello Listers, > >I have searched in vain on my computer for a >reply I sent several years ago re prospecting >licences or miner's licences. If I find it, I >will put it up again. It would answer all such >questions > >However, the gist of this was: These were annual licences. > >The method was similar to the raffle ticket >books with stub. On the main certificate was the >man's name, the goldfield he was prospecting, >the signature of the officer who received the >fee. This part was torn off and handed to the >applicant. > >The stub remaining merely gave the name of the >man, the amount of the annual registration fee. > >Tens of thousands of these certificates were >printed and issued. With the new year, the old >certificates were redundant. Most miners threw >theirs away when they re-registered for the >ensuing year. Most mine officers discarded the >out-of-date stubs. The miners so quickly moved >from one field to another that 10,000 could be >issued for one field in one year, and only 350 >issued in the ensueing year for the same field, >then zero. Mining sites were deserted overnight >when rumours of a new strike circulated. Pity >the poor schoolteacher who had just received >permission to set up his school, only to find >the seats empty just as his permission arrived! >It was a volatile time. > >I don't know about Ballarat and Bendigo, but I >do know the following stubs are in the Victorian >Public Record Office Melbourne. You might need >to call the Ballarat VPRO to check their meagre >holdings (if any) > >Miners Right Stubs: >Castlemaine 1919 to 1925 one box VPRS 3540 > >Inglewood 1860 to 1920 four boxes VPRS 491 > >Waranga 1865 to 1868 one volume VPRS 398 > > >Regards Ada > >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Jan Mumford" <jan.mumford@tics.com.au> >>To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 3:11 PM >>Subject: RE: prospectors licenses >>> Dear All >>> >>> I would love to know the answer to this one too. >>> Regards >>> Jan Mumford >> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Ian.Harrison@csiro.au [mailto:Ian.Harrison@csiro.au] >>> Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2005 1:45 PM >>> To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: prospectors licenses >>> >>> Dear all, >>> I have had a bit of bad luck with two fairly significant ancestors, my >>> GG and G grandfathers, "they disappeared without trace" its thought that >>> went to the goldfields in Victoria and this could be true as it was >>> about the right time for each one of them. >>> My question is: are there indexes or searchable registers for >>> prospectors licenses on the Victorian goldfields and maybe WA's ? >>> Many thanks >>> IanH > >regards, >Ada Ackerly, Melbourne, Australia >formerly Ackerly DocuSearch > > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/206 - Release Date: 16-12-05 > > > >==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from this mailing list send the >word 'unsubscribe' in the body of a message to >AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L-request@rootsweb.com

Dear list, Trish, Gaylene, Norm, Phil, Bob, Carmel, Susie and Jan, Thanks to you all for your input on the prospector's licenses, amazing that no records exist, couldn't happen today, how would they get back to us for the next fee increase and changes to regulations etc The Lee family has been researched by others and on each occasion Mark has emerged as a brick wall. Some say he became a minister others suggest a miner, I can't believe he became a minister as he never returned to his very large family, "not a very Christian thing to do" I will hit the BDM's again and see what pops up. I believe that I have exhausted the Vic BDM's, I have most of the available Lee family details, Mark Lee remains a problem, some mystery surrounds his fate. If anybody has a method to enquire upon the Aus wide BDM's, I would really appreciate some help on Mark the mystery man Many thanks to you all again!! Ian in Torquay

Hello Listers, I have searched in vain on my computer for a reply I sent several years ago re prospecting licences or miner's licences. If I find it, I will put it up again. It would answer all such questions However, the gist of this was: These were annual licences. The method was similar to the raffle ticket books with stub. On the main certificate was the man's name, the goldfield he was prospecting, the signature of the officer who received the fee. This part was torn off and handed to the applicant. The stub remaining merely gave the name of the man, the amount of the annual registration fee. Tens of thousands of these certificates were printed and issued. With the new year, the old certificates were redundant. Most miners threw theirs away when they re-registered for the ensuing year. Most mine officers discarded the out-of-date stubs. The miners so quickly moved from one field to another that 10,000 could be issued for one field in one year, and only 350 issued in the ensueing year for the same field, then zero. Mining sites were deserted overnight when rumours of a new strike circulated. Pity the poor schoolteacher who had just received permission to set up his school, only to find the seats empty just as his permission arrived! It was a volatile time. I don't know about Ballarat and Bendigo, but I do know the following stubs are in the Victorian Public Record Office Melbourne. You might need to call the Ballarat VPRO to check their meagre holdings (if any) Miners Right Stubs: Castlemaine 1919 to 1925 one box VPRS 3540 Inglewood 1860 to 1920 four boxes VPRS 491 Waranga 1865 to 1868 one volume VPRS 398 Regards Ada >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jan Mumford" <jan.mumford@tics.com.au> >To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 3:11 PM >Subject: RE: prospectors licenses > > Dear All > > > > I would love to know the answer to this one too. > > Regards > > Jan Mumford > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ian.Harrison@csiro.au [mailto:Ian.Harrison@csiro.au] > > Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2005 1:45 PM > > To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: prospectors licenses > > > > Dear all, > > I have had a bit of bad luck with two fairly significant ancestors, my > > GG and G grandfathers, "they disappeared without trace" its thought that > > went to the goldfields in Victoria and this could be true as it was > > about the right time for each one of them. > > My question is: are there indexes or searchable registers for > > prospectors licenses on the Victorian goldfields and maybe WA's ? > > Many thanks > > IanH regards, Ada Ackerly, Melbourne, Australia formerly Ackerly DocuSearch -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/206 - Release Date: 16-12-05

That's right Bob. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Cunning" <rcun9703@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 6:41 PM Subject: Re: prospectors licenses >I believe, and am happy to be corrected, that the licences did not have a > carbon copy. Therefore, no record as such. > > Cheers, Bob in Melbourne > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan Mumford" <jan.mumford@tics.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 3:11 PM > Subject: RE: prospectors licenses > > >> Dear All >> >> I would love to know the answer to this one too. >> >> Regards >> Jan Mumford >> Nee Carpenter >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ian.Harrison@csiro.au [mailto:Ian.Harrison@csiro.au] >> Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2005 1:45 PM >> To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: prospectors licenses >> >> Dear all, >> >> >> >> I have had a bit of bad luck with two fairly significant ancestors, my >> GG and G grandfathers, "they disappeared without trace" its thought that >> went to the goldfields in Victoria and this could be true as it was >> about the right time for each one of them. >> >> >> >> William Lee a farmer of Ballarine and Mark Lee a blacksmith and >> wheelright of Terang both never seen again. (at least by their wives and >> children) >> >> >> >> I have had a quick search of the BDM's (Vic) and can't seem to make a >> connection, >> >> >> >> My question is: are there indexes or searchable registers for >> prospectors licenses on the Victorian goldfields and maybe WA's ? >> >> >> >> Many thanks >> >> >> >> IanH >> >> >> >> Torquay Vic >> >> >> >> PS: I did find a Mark Lee who cut his own throat with a strop razor in >> Mildura, I'm hoping this isn't my Ggrandfather!!!!!!! >> >> >> >> ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== >> Victorian place names database >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~auswgw/vic_place_names.htm >> >> >> >> ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== >> Support RootsWeb and help it support genealogy >> http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >> > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > Victorian place names database > http://www.rootsweb.com/~auswgw/vic_place_names.htm > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.0/203 - Release Date: 15/12/2005 > >

I believe, and am happy to be corrected, that the licences did not have a carbon copy. Therefore, no record as such. Cheers, Bob in Melbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Mumford" <jan.mumford@tics.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 3:11 PM Subject: RE: prospectors licenses > Dear All > > I would love to know the answer to this one too. > > Regards > Jan Mumford > Nee Carpenter > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian.Harrison@csiro.au [mailto:Ian.Harrison@csiro.au] > Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2005 1:45 PM > To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: prospectors licenses > > Dear all, > > > > I have had a bit of bad luck with two fairly significant ancestors, my > GG and G grandfathers, "they disappeared without trace" its thought that > went to the goldfields in Victoria and this could be true as it was > about the right time for each one of them. > > > > William Lee a farmer of Ballarine and Mark Lee a blacksmith and > wheelright of Terang both never seen again. (at least by their wives and > children) > > > > I have had a quick search of the BDM's (Vic) and can't seem to make a > connection, > > > > My question is: are there indexes or searchable registers for > prospectors licenses on the Victorian goldfields and maybe WA's ? > > > > Many thanks > > > > IanH > > > > Torquay Vic > > > > PS: I did find a Mark Lee who cut his own throat with a strop razor in > Mildura, I'm hoping this isn't my Ggrandfather!!!!!!! > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > Victorian place names database > http://www.rootsweb.com/~auswgw/vic_place_names.htm > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > Support RootsWeb and help it support genealogy > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >

Dear Carmel and the list, Many thanks for the info regarding the licenses, I'm staggered that there was no management of the licenses or at least a register of some sort Mark and William were from South Tawton Devon England, Mark was one year old when he arrived at Point Henry Geelong in 1849 (born 1848) with his large family. William was born in 1812 and now I believe that he died in 1854, until this afternoon I wasn't aware of this, so an interesting day, I'd be interested to find out about William's death circumstances and where this occurred? His parents were Mary Cross and William Lee (snr) Mark continues to be a real problem (brick wall) the fellows that you have mentioned unfortunately don't seem to be my fellow, thankfully the fellow in Mildura doesn't match the details, My fellow's mother was Matilda Lee nee Finch and his father William Lee (above) Maybe Victoria got too small or he changed his name, although, I don't believe he did anything wrong except not coming back home (bad enough I guess)!!!! Any help on Mark would be much appreciated, I guess it would be nice to find him after 100 years, it's a pity I couldn't tell his daughter (my g/mother) I located her dad,, that's history I guess As for the Chinese angle, yes, I've accidentally spoken to several Chinese Lee's in my stumbling and bumbling search for Mark. Many thanks Ian in Torquay

Ian There was no list of Licenses for goldmining. It sounds as if these men may have been Chinese. I would have a closer look at Mark Lee in Mildura. According to the Death Index he was the son of Robert William Lee and Anne Folley and he was 61yrs old. reg no 15419. I have some reservations about this one as it would have been getting a little late in history for running off to the gold fields. But then not impossible. There is also a Mark Lee d in Donolly Hospital in 1898 aged 67. Parents unknown and he would have been Chinees as he is registered Mark Lee Hat. He would be a more likely candidate for running off to the goldfields. There is a William Lee died 1891 17983R aged 68 died Staffordshire Reef. Also Parents Unknown. This could likely make them brothers. You did not have years but hope this helps. Carmel ----- Original Message ----- From: <Ian.Harrison@csiro.au> To: <A. US-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 1:45 PM Subject: prospectors licenses > Dear all, > > > > I have had a bit of bad luck with two fairly significant ancestors, my > GG and G grandfathers, "they disappeared without trace" its thought that > went to the goldfields in Victoria and this could be true as it was > about the right time for each one of them. > > > > William Lee a farmer of Ballarine and Mark Lee a blacksmith and > wheelright of Terang both never seen again. (at least by their wives and > children) > > > > I have had a quick search of the BDM's (Vic) and can't seem to make a > connection, > > > > My question is: are there indexes or searchable registers for > prospectors licenses on the Victorian goldfields and maybe WA's ? > > > > Many thanks > > > > IanH > > > > Torquay Vic > > > > PS: I did find a Mark Lee who cut his own throat with a strop razor in > Mildura, I'm hoping this isn't my Ggrandfather!!!!!!! > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > Victorian place names database > http://www.rootsweb.com/~auswgw/vic_place_names.htm > >

Dear All I would love to know the answer to this one too. Regards Jan Mumford Nee Carpenter -----Original Message----- From: Ian.Harrison@csiro.au [mailto:Ian.Harrison@csiro.au] Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2005 1:45 PM To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: prospectors licenses Dear all, I have had a bit of bad luck with two fairly significant ancestors, my GG and G grandfathers, "they disappeared without trace" its thought that went to the goldfields in Victoria and this could be true as it was about the right time for each one of them. William Lee a farmer of Ballarine and Mark Lee a blacksmith and wheelright of Terang both never seen again. (at least by their wives and children) I have had a quick search of the BDM's (Vic) and can't seem to make a connection, My question is: are there indexes or searchable registers for prospectors licenses on the Victorian goldfields and maybe WA's ? Many thanks IanH Torquay Vic PS: I did find a Mark Lee who cut his own throat with a strop razor in Mildura, I'm hoping this isn't my Ggrandfather!!!!!!! ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== Victorian place names database http://www.rootsweb.com/~auswgw/vic_place_names.htm

Hi all Just a quick note to say a very big thanks to all those who responded with links and suggestions for my GREE query - I ended up with a copy of Duncan Clark's death certificate and it was Greenock in Scotland. Kindest regards Darlene

Dear all, I have had a bit of bad luck with two fairly significant ancestors, my GG and G grandfathers, "they disappeared without trace" its thought that went to the goldfields in Victoria and this could be true as it was about the right time for each one of them. William Lee a farmer of Ballarine and Mark Lee a blacksmith and wheelright of Terang both never seen again. (at least by their wives and children) I have had a quick search of the BDM's (Vic) and can't seem to make a connection, My question is: are there indexes or searchable registers for prospectors licenses on the Victorian goldfields and maybe WA's ? Many thanks IanH Torquay Vic PS: I did find a Mark Lee who cut his own throat with a strop razor in Mildura, I'm hoping this isn't my Ggrandfather!!!!!!!

Dear Ian and others It may be worth having a look at the CD of Victorian Inquests, and also the list of people admitted to the Asylums around Victoria. My wife's great grandfather died in Yarra Bend Asylum (of epilepsy and dysentery) and I have relatives who died in Beechworth Asylum and none of their deaths was registered in the normal way. On the subject of running away to the goldfields, and setting aside the New Zealand possibilities, I also have a distant relative who left Warrnambool and ended up in the Northern Territory Goldfields; records were found through the South Australian Registers pre 1910. It's certainly worth a check. Best wishes Philip Candy London -----Original Message----- From: Ian.Harrison@csiro.au [mailto:Ian.Harrison@csiro.au] Sent: 18 December 2005 02:45 To: AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: prospectors licenses Dear all, I have had a bit of bad luck with two fairly significant ancestors, my GG and G grandfathers, "they disappeared without trace" its thought that went to the goldfields in Victoria and this could be true as it was about the right time for each one of them. William Lee a farmer of Ballarine and Mark Lee a blacksmith and wheelright of Terang both never seen again. (at least by their wives and children) I have had a quick search of the BDM's (Vic) and can't seem to make a connection, My question is: are there indexes or searchable registers for prospectors licenses on the Victorian goldfields and maybe WA's ? Many thanks IanH Torquay Vic PS: I did find a Mark Lee who cut his own throat with a strop razor in Mildura, I'm hoping this isn't my Ggrandfather!!!!!!! ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== Victorian place names database http://www.rootsweb.com/~auswgw/vic_place_names.htm This e-mail is confidential and privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies; please do not disclose, copy or distribute information in this e-mail or take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Thank you for your co-operation.

Don't know if this will help or not, but these are my guesses at the most likely death records for your George White - if he died in Victoria. (Note that no 4 died in While Hills.) I've eliminated those with birth places outside Scotland (where given), deaths before 1863, and ages totally out of range. It's almost impossible to know which of many Elizabeth White's deaths might be yours. Do you know her parents' names? If you can let us know, perhaps we can do better. I don't have records for NSW, maybe someone else can help there. Cheers Larraine Surname: WHITE Given Names: George Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: Peter Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Agnes PATTERSON Age: 43 Sex: Birth Place: EDIN Death Place: Year: 1869 Reg Number: 2115 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: WHITE Given Names: George Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: William Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Age: 55 Sex: Birth Place: GLAS Death Place: Year: 1870 Reg Number: 9093 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: WHITE Given Names: George Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: John Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Mary GALBRAITH Age: 66 Sex: Birth Place: SCOTLAND Death Place: Year: 1879 Reg Number: 8693 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: WHITE Given Names: George Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: Unknown Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Age: 62 Sex: Birth Place: Death Place: W HILLS Year: 1886 Reg Number: 11319 Denomination: Parish: Fiche:

----- Original Message ----- From: "Darls" <mrsdoubtfire@iprimus.com.au> Subject: place abbreveations > Hi all > > I know that there is a link somewhere to find out the place abbreveations of one's birth, death & marriage etc - but I cannot find it. > http://members.westnet.com.au/web/talltrees/resources/vic_abbr.htm Cheers, Carolyn Harris PO Box 4157, Myaree Business Centre, Myaree 6960, Western Australia talltrees@westnet.com.au Tall Trees Family History http://members.westnet.com.au/web/talltrees Perth Dead Person's Society http://www.perthdps.com/research/har02.html Legacy Family Tree is now FREE. Download from http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Index.asp?mid=27495Ji ================================================== Genealogists never lose their jobs, they just go to another branch!

Phillip this is an interesting one. I could only find 2 births and it is of those you mention only the mother is Frances Elizabeth Renwick. Frances Mary was b in Castlemaine in 1855 reg. no 2401 and Reginald Arthur b Sandhurst 1859 reg no 4591. Sandhurst is in the Bendigo area. Carmel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Candy Philip" <Philip.Candy@cfh.nhs.uk> To: <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 3:43 AM Subject: Digger Lookups please - PYKE > Dear listers > > If anyone has access to the Digger CDs, could they please let me know if > there is any record of the birth of any children to Vincent PYKE/PIKE > and his wife Frances Elizabeth PYKE, on the Bendigo Goldfields between > 1853 and 1862? Names to looks out for are Frances Mary and Reginald > Arthur in particular > > I would also be interested to know of there is any record of deaths of > any of their children, or of Vincent's mother Mary PYKE, maiden name > Candy? > > I am writing from London, and would appreciate any help with piecing > together this family. > > Kind regards > > Philip Candy > > > This e-mail is confidential and privileged. If you are not the intended > recipient please accept our apologies; please do not disclose, copy or > distribute information in this e-mail or take any action in reliance on > its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please > inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Thank you > for your co-operation. > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > Practice good internet genealogy - always be polite plus say 'thank you' > >

Fellow Listers What a fantastic treasure trove of information. Many thanks to all those who kindly replied to my request for help. It has added considerably to what I already knew. For those who have twigged to the connection, Vincent PYKE came originally from Somerset in England; migrating first to South Australia, then to Victoria and finally to New Zealand where he became a goldfields administrator, journalist, politician and even a published author. He died in Dunedin in 1894. He married in Bristol in 1846, and had three children in England before heading down under. But until now I didn't know what children he had in Australia, or what ship he came on. My link is through his mother - Mary PYKE nee Candy. Mary was living with Vincent and his family at the time of the 1851 Census, but I can't establish what became of her when the family moved to Australia; did she emigrate with them or did she move in with another one of her children in England? I am really grateful to everyone who provided information, not just from Digger but from Shipping Lists, local histories and even the Encyclopedia of New Zealand. Very many thanks and Merry Christmas to everyone. Philip Candy This e-mail is confidential and privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies; please do not disclose, copy or distribute information in this e-mail or take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. Thank you for your co-operation.

Hello all I am new to this whole mail list thing, so I hope I get this right! I am seeking anything on my gg grandparents, George White and Elizabeth Foggoe (many spelling variations). They emigrated from Scotland to the White Hills district between 1855 and 1860. Their son John (my g grandfather) was born at Pottery Flat in 1863. Are there any relatives out there or anyone who might be able to help me find a death cert for George and / or Elizabeth? John, their son, moved to NSW and I don't know if the whole family also moved there..or not.any help or advice greatly appreciated. Sue.

Hi all I know that there is a link somewhere to find out the place abbreveations of one's birth, death & marriage etc - but I cannot find it. I have just checked my gggrandfathers death record (he died in Victoria 1865) but place of birth states GREE - which I intially thought was Greenock in Scotland (don't know why I thought that) but now I am wondering if it was something simple like Greensborough ( I guess that's too easy) but usually the people on digger that were born overseas are at the bottom of the record and my Duncan Clark is closer to the top - any takers Thanks for listening - I think I am starting to answer myself as well - lol Regards Darlene

Darls, Seeing he was born 1817 and he had no one with him who knew his parents names when he died, I would hazard a guess that he was NOT born here. Getting the certificate would be your best bet to find out what GREE means, Greece? Greenland? I think a scottish heritage sounds better. Regards Les On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 01:10:30 +1100, Darls <mrsdoubtfire@iprimus.com.au> wrote: > Hi all > > I know that there is a link somewhere to find out the place > abbreveations of one's birth, death & marriage etc - but I cannot find > it. > > I have just checked my gggrandfathers death record (he died in Victoria > 1865) but place of birth states GREE - which I intially thought was > Greenock in Scotland (don't know why I thought that) but now I am > wondering if it was something simple like Greensborough ( I guess that's > too easy) but usually the people on digger that were born overseas are > at the bottom of the record and my Duncan Clark is closer to the top - > any takers > > Thanks for listening - I think I am starting to answer myself as well - > lol > > Regards > Darlene > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > The mailing list for the golden triangle of Ballarat, Bendigo and > Maryborough VICTORIA > > >

This is all I could find, no marriage and no death of Mary Pyke, Vincents mother. No death is recorded for the children, at least up to 1888. Regards Les Pitt urname: PYKE Given Names: Frances Mary Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Vincent Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Frances Elizabeth RENWICK Age: Sex: Birth Place: CMAINE Death Place: Year: 1855 Reg Number: 2401 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: PYKE Given Names: Reginald Arthur Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Vincent Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Frances Elizabeth RENWICK Age: Sex: Birth Place: SANDHURST Death Place: Year: 1859 Reg Number: 4691 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 03:43:26 +1100, Candy Philip <Philip.Candy@cfh.nhs.uk> wrote: > Dear listers > If anyone has access to the Digger CDs, could they please let me know if > there is any record of the birth of any children to Vincent PYKE/PIKE > and his wife Frances Elizabeth PYKE, on the Bendigo Goldfields between > 1853 and 1862? Names to looks out for are Frances Mary and Reginald > Arthur in particular > I would also be interested to know of there is any record of deaths of > any of their children, or of Vincent's mother Mary PYKE, maiden name > Candy? > I am writing from London, and would appreciate any help with piecing > together this family. > Kind regards > Philip Candy > > This e-mail is confidential and privileged. If you are not the intended > recipient please accept our apologies; please do not disclose, copy or > distribute information in this e-mail or take any action in reliance on > its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. > Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. > Thank you for your co-operation. > > > > > ==== AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS Mailing List ==== > Practice good internet genealogy - always be polite plus say 'thank you' > > >