Hello I am researching the family of George William CAMPBELL (b abt 1827 Glasgow SCT) and his wife Mary (nee WEIR, b abt 1831 Haslar, Hampshire, ENG). They were living at Barkers Creek in 1871 when their 8th (and probably last) child was born in August of that year. George was Clerk of Courts at the time and he later became a Police Magistrate. Is anyone else on the list researching the same family? Are there any records of this man or of any of his family members in the Barkers Creek area? Children in the family were Edith Mary (b 1855), Emilia Margaret Katherine (b 1858), Maude (b 1861), George William Weir (b 1864), Evelyn Sturt (b 1866), unnamed male (b & d 1868), Cecil Wynn Williams (b 1870) and Herbert Crawford (b 1871). Was there a separate Courthouse at Barkers Creek or would he have been employed at the Castlemaine Courthouse? I do not know ho long they stayed in the goldfields area. The older children in the family were mostly born whilst the family was living in the Prahran and Windsor area. However, I have a feeling that they may have ended up in the Mildura region but I am not certain of this. Any information much appreciated. Anne (in Eastern Victoria)

Hi, I am looking for the Strangways State School enrolment records for pre 1900, can anyone assist with where they are held please? Cheers, Margaret Pekin

Hi listers. Could Kevin Egans or anyone knowing Kevin Egans current email address please contact Hilary Marks off list at [email protected] Trish

Having struck too many solid brick wall on my Tasmanian convict research, I decided to investigate the Victorian side and lo and behold I had missed a vital clue.....James and Johanna DAVIS (nee Murphy) were required to give their written permission for the marriage of their daughter Sarah Ann DAVIS to John SANLON at the Reefs Presbytery, Pleasant Creek 7/11/1969 - this means of course they had to have been in Victoria. How have I not seen this before?????. Anyway, according to AVRI James Davis and Johanna Murphy had children in Victoria Robert 8847/1857 Melb. Died 4120/1857 Melbourne James 918/1859 N. Melbourne Robert 9362/1861 Kyneton Eliza 20778/1963 MULG George 25325/1870 Pleasant Creek >From VIC BDMs a Johanna Davis died at Ararat Hospital aged 75 in 1898 (b.c.1823 - fits OK - 30 when she had Sarah Ann in Ireland in 1852 and 47 when she had George in 1870) I cannot yet prove that all the above is the right family. I will apply for a copy of the death certificate of Johanna which may help. Any advice or help appreciated. regards Sharon

Dear Listers, Thanks for all the help, I have ended up with 13 children for Louis and Henrietta Harriet Buchanan, including the one I was chasing who was not registered Philip Andrew, I was only looking for Philip as he was a witness to a Junghenn marriage, which led me to the fact that he was married to (Anna) Marie Junghenn's husband Alex Walker, sister Sarah Matilda Walker. Philip was a witness to the marriage of Sophia (Julia) Junghenn and Adolphus Rosenow they were married on the same day and address as Marie and Alex, and the same address as my forbears married earlier that year and all the Junghenn girls gave as their address. Bit confusing I know, but thanks for the help. I have been putting all info from the certs. that I have purchased onto the www.ausbdm.org website in the hope it will save money and time for future family history look ups. I encourage you all to do the same. It is a free site, as against the UK site that does have a charge. If you have certs, and are not sure how to upload (the spreadsheet is a bit daunting if you have never used Excel and it did take me a few goes), please contact me, or send me the word.doc or PDF and I am happy to do it for you. Anyway if you haven't looked check it out you may be surprised, it is easy just to do a search. I currently live in Portland, Vic (the sign says birth place of Victoria) and if anyone requires info from the cemetery's here, or other info I am now a paid up member of the Portland Family History Group and am happy and have the time at present to check newspapers etc, that are available here. Have really enjoyed the interesting questions and answers that have come through my mailbox lately. Keep up the good work. Kind regards, Angelica

Hi, a large family - I found 12 registered births and 2 deaths and those were late children.. so I'd say the family did a fine job getting their children through the dangerous early years of life - one of my ancestors had about 13 children in Ballarat at about the same time amnd lost about 9 children at a very young age. here they are: Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 Surname: REIFFEL Given Names: Harriet Ann Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Louis Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Harriet BUCHANNAN Age: Sex: Birth Place: BALL Death Place: Year: 1863 Reg Number: 404 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: REIFFEL Given Names: Louis Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Louis Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Harriet BUCHANAN Age: Sex: Birth Place: BALL Death Place: Year: 1864 Reg Number: 514 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: REIFFEL Given Names: Charles Henry Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Louis Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Henrietta Harriet BUCHANAN Age: Sex: Birth Place: BALL Death Place: Year: 1865 Reg Number: 529 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: REIFFEL Given Names: Louis William Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Louis Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Henrietta BUCHANEN Age: Sex: Birth Place: ROSS CREEK Death Place: Year: 1869 Reg Number: 4693 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: REIFFEL Given Names: Matilda Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Louis Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Henrietta BUCHANAN Age: Sex: Birth Place: CAMB Death Place: Year: 1870 Reg Number: 26183 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: REIFFEL Given Names: Robert Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Louis Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Harriet BUCHANAN Age: Sex: Birth Place: CAMB Death Place: Year: 1872 Reg Number: 5595 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: REIFFEL Given Names: Frederick Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Louis Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Henrietta BUCHANAN Age: Sex: Birth Place: CAMBRIAN H Death Place: Year: 1873 Reg Number: 7945 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: REIFFEL Given Names: Robert Francis Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Louis Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Henrietta BUCHANAN Age: Sex: Birth Place: BARR Death Place: Year: 1875 Reg Number: 14002 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: REIFFEL Given Names: Mary Edith Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Louis Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Henrietta BUCHANAN Age: Sex: Birth Place: BALLT Death Place: Year: 1877 Reg Number: 6478 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: REIFFEL Given Names: Elizabeth Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Louis Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Hetta BUCHANAN Age: Sex: Birth Place: BALL Death Place: Year: 1881 Reg Number: 6829 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: REIFFEL Given Names: Nellie Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Louis Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Henrietta BUCHANAN Age: Sex: Birth Place: BALL Death Place: Year: 1883 Reg Number: 21146 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: REIFFEL Given Names: Charlotte Ellen Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: Louis Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Henrietta BUCHANAN Age: 16M Sex: Birth Place: Death Place: BALLT E Year: 1885 Reg Number: 268 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: REIFFEL Given Names: Alfred Stanley Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Louis Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Henrietta BUCHANAN Age: Sex: Birth Place: BALL Death Place: Year: 1886 Reg Number: 15671 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: REIFFEL Given Names: Alfred Stanley Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: Louis Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Henrietta BUCHANAN Age: 11M Sex: Birth Place: Death Place: BALLARAT E Year: 1887 Reg Number: 5179 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: cheers Robert ps. now you've got some work to do :) Angelica Matthews wrote: > Dear Listers, > I am really pleased with some of the background info that I have recieve via this group, and some great links to other sites aswell. > If anyone can help, I need info on Louis Reiffel and wife Henrietta Harriet (nee Buchanan) around Ballarat area, Cambrian Hill. > I am pretty sure from my notes that I have looked this up at my local History group and there is a heap of children, not including the one I was looking for Philip Andrew. I have now found a death record for Philip Andrew that states his parents as above he was born c.1868 and married Sarah Matilda Walker in 1888. > TIA > Angelica > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Dear Listers, I am really pleased with some of the background info that I have recieve via this group, and some great links to other sites aswell. If anyone can help, I need info on Louis Reiffel and wife Henrietta Harriet (nee Buchanan) around Ballarat area, Cambrian Hill. I am pretty sure from my notes that I have looked this up at my local History group and there is a heap of children, not including the one I was looking for Philip Andrew. I have now found a death record for Philip Andrew that states his parents as above he was born c.1868 and married Sarah Matilda Walker in 1888. TIA Angelica

The George Henderson mentioned by Dave seems to be the same George Henderson that appears in the indexes as dying in 1861 - aged 35 years - I'm guessing there is no way a person of about 55 years working on the gold fields would be mistaken for a 35 year old - more likely the other way around - so I expect this is not the fellow - I had a pretty thorough look at the Pioneer index and couldn't spot the fellow's death - I think what would be very useful would be the last date that he was known to be alive - is there some chance that he died shortly after the family arrived in Victoria? but that he didn't die in victoira - business or family required that he return to South Australia and he died there? remember that if he died in Victoira and he hadn't separated from his family then there is a very good chance that the people supplying information for his death certificate may have been his children or his wife - and they would possibly supply accurate details?? thankyou robert Dave Evans wrote: > Hello Beth, > I have the following on a George Henderson:-- > Henderson, George. 1862/00/00. Killed. Ballarat District.Fall into > hole at Browns Diggings. Inquest. No. 1862/894. > Don't know if he is your George or not. > > Dave > > At 09:54 AM 11/07/2008, Beth Codling wrote: > >> Correction. George Henderson was born about 1805 not 1850. Senior moment! >> >> Beth >> >> I am trying to trace the death of George William Henderson. His occupations >> have been variously listed as teacher/professor of music, perfumer/soap >> maker. If someone has access to the Goldfields Hospital Index I would >> appreciate seeing if he was hospitalised in the period 1850-1872. >> >> George was born in UK c 1850 and arrived in Adelaide in 1838. By 1857 the >> family were in Bendigo. Marriage certificates of children indicate that >> George William Henderson was dead by 1872. I have not been able to find a >> death registration. His wife Regina Maria died in 1892 and was buried at >> Bendigo Cemetery. His son also named George and at one stage a miner, died >> in Bendigo in 1898 and was buried at White Hills Cemetery. >> >> Any assistance appreciated. >> >> >> >> Beth Codling >> >> [email protected] >> >>

Hello Beth, I have the following on a George Henderson:-- Henderson, George. 1862/00/00. Killed. Ballarat District.Fall into hole at Browns Diggings. Inquest. No. 1862/894. Don't know if he is your George or not. Dave At 09:54 AM 11/07/2008, Beth Codling wrote: >Correction. George Henderson was born about 1805 not 1850. Senior moment! > >Beth > >I am trying to trace the death of George William Henderson. His occupations >have been variously listed as teacher/professor of music, perfumer/soap >maker. If someone has access to the Goldfields Hospital Index I would >appreciate seeing if he was hospitalised in the period 1850-1872. > >George was born in UK c 1850 and arrived in Adelaide in 1838. By 1857 the >family were in Bendigo. Marriage certificates of children indicate that >George William Henderson was dead by 1872. I have not been able to find a >death registration. His wife Regina Maria died in 1892 and was buried at >Bendigo Cemetery. His son also named George and at one stage a miner, died >in Bendigo in 1898 and was buried at White Hills Cemetery. > > Any assistance appreciated. > > > >Beth Codling > >[email protected] > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message :-) Victorian Mining Accident Index, over 12,100 names sorted Alphabetically as well as by Place. on CDROM $20.00 plus Postage. Mining Registrars Reports 1859 to 1887 all Victoria, most reports published, send for a list to Dave Evans 439 Main Rd. Ballarat, 3350 Victoria or email [email protected]

Correction. George Henderson was born about 1805 not 1850. Senior moment! Beth I am trying to trace the death of George William Henderson. His occupations have been variously listed as teacher/professor of music, perfumer/soap maker. If someone has access to the Goldfields Hospital Index I would appreciate seeing if he was hospitalised in the period 1850-1872. George was born in UK c 1850 and arrived in Adelaide in 1838. By 1857 the family were in Bendigo. Marriage certificates of children indicate that George William Henderson was dead by 1872. I have not been able to find a death registration. His wife Regina Maria died in 1892 and was buried at Bendigo Cemetery. His son also named George and at one stage a miner, died in Bendigo in 1898 and was buried at White Hills Cemetery. Any assistance appreciated. Beth Codling [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am trying to trace the death of George William Henderson. His occupations have been variously listed as teacher/professor of music, perfumer/soap maker. If someone has access to the Goldfields Hospital Index I would appreciate seeing if he was hospitalised in the period 1850-1872. George was born in UK c 1850 and arrived in Adelaide in 1838. By 1857 the family were in Bendigo. Marriage certificates of children indicate that George William Henderson was dead by 1872. I have not been able to find a death registration. His wife Regina Maria died in 1892 and was buried at Bendigo Cemetery. His son also named George and at one stage a miner, died in Bendigo in 1898 and was buried at White Hills Cemetery. Any assistance appreciated. Beth Codling [email protected]

Hi all, I own this index and was able to provide lookups for listers but since upgrading to VISTA I can't use it. It lets me type in names but not look at results. Does anyone know if there's anything that I can do? Regards Sue

Hi Folks, Could someone please check the Goldfields Hospital Inde for William PARSONS. He died at Bendigo Hospital in 1907 aged 42 yrs. William was born at Dunolly in 1865. Thanks, Jenny

Hi, this is one of my rants - so stop reading now - if California Gully in 1857 was anything like Ballarat - then the conditions for those with money were pretty good - come to think of it - anywhere and anytime - those with money generally found living conditions pretty good - whether they were aware or even cared about the living conditions of those with less money is debateable - did those with high incomes or large resources exploit the aspirations of those without? Doesn't matter really - what does matter - Charles LYALL did a a sketch of California Gully possibly just a little before the time in question - visit this address http://www.slv.vic.gov.au/pictoria/b/2/7/doc/b27414.shtml or if you want full colour try this: http://www.slv.vic.gov.au/pictoria/b/2/7/doc/b27406.shtml Both of these pics obtained by visiting the ever so useful National Library site at www.nla.gov.au - and selecting the picture search option - wonderful.. Some of my ancestors were on the Maryborough goldfields at the height of the rushes and there is quite a good history published of the time - my recollection of the reading of the the book tells me - the gold fields in the early days were a little akin to hell for many of the people dragged there by poverty and the dream of opportunity. Imagine, dear readers, if you're able or willing, leaving the rich green fields of Europe - where you were perhaps a young adult - but still a peasant and knew you would die almost penniless with 10 children by the age of 55 - and somehow - you and a couple of friends had the money to escape to Australia and the goldfields - where the dust in the streets was only there to hide the golden fortunes beneath .. dreams - they are what got us here and they'll take us there too .. I feel that for many people who put up with the miserable days on the goldfields - that they had escaped untold horrors and miseries back in Europe - and though the conditions in Australia may have been terrible - in many places they were the best conditions the people on the fields had ever experienced - relative freedom for a start ... beautiful skies and great company ,. pretty well the same as it is now ... :) cheers robert Jenny De Angelis wrote: > Where can I find out what the living conditions would have been like on the > goldfields at California Gully around the time the DeAngelis family arrived > between 1856-1858? I imagine it would have been pretty rough and ready but > just how rough and ready would that have been? > > Any information on how I can find out more on this aspect of the people and > how they lived at that time would be welcome. > > Another question I have is about how long would the journey from London have > taken? > > Regards > Jenny DeAngelis > Spain. > > > > >

Jenny asked how long it wd have taken from London to Victoria in the 1800s My family camne Glascow to Launceston, Tasmania, a trifle further, and it took 61 days which was a record at that time, 1855 Elizabeth

Further to messages on time taken to come out to Australia. Some of my family (to be) left for Australia per “Merchant Prince” sailing from Liverpool 23rd January 1862 Arrived in Melbourne 12th May 1862 (109 days – 15and a half weeks) Ian Scott Perth Western Australia At 03:10 PM 8/07/2008, you wrote: >Jenny asked how long it wd have taken from London to Victoria in the 1800s >My family camne Glascow to Launceston, Tasmania, a trifle further, and >it took 61 days which was a record at that time, 1855 >Elizabeth > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >email to [email protected] >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message

HI Robert, Thankyou for the rant and the two links to the picture of California Gully I will save copies of them. What you say is how I imagined it would be. The DeAngelis family were from the east end of London/Middlesex living down by the docks, where Antonio must have been working out of as a seaman. The area where they lived was called Limehouse and that area is famous for opium dens and being very much full of slums and dregs of the earth type of people. I lived a few miles away from that part of London as a child and it still had such a reputation in the 1950s/60s. Charles Booth toured the area on foot in the 1800s and made a survey of what he saw there, those surveys make interesting reading if you have people over in Australia who came from that part of London. http://booth.lse.ac.uk/ To arrive in Australia seeking their fortune on the goldfields would have been better than where the DeAngelis family came from. The sad thing is they went back to the same area in the East End to live after just a 3 or 4 years on the goldfields, I wonder why. Maybe the life was too hard, perhaps Antonio's wife could not stand the life and was homesick, who knows? Salvatore Sydney, who was born at California Gully, died in 1901 in that same part of London and 4 of his 7 children went into the workhouse school from where they were sent on to another school, miles from their home and mother, to be trained in various occupations, they were aged between 11 and 4 at the time. I have lost track of them for the time being. Thankyou for your help it is appreciated. Regards Jenny DeAngelis Spain. <<> if California Gully in 1857 was anything like Ballarat - then the >> conditions for those with money were pretty good - come to think of it - >> anywhere and anytime - those with money generally found living conditions >> pretty good - whether they were aware or even cared about the living >> conditions of those with less money is debateable - did those with high >> incomes or large resources exploit the aspirations of those without>> >

Hi Bob, Thankyou for the reply and the link, that is the sort of thing I was after a link to an Australian book site where I can perhaps by a copy of a book to read up on the subject, hopefully one on Bendigo/California Gully. Thanks very much. Regards Jenny DeAngelis Spain. > Hi Jenny > If you contact http://www.daylesfordhistory.com.au/ they will help you. > I purchased "The Settlement of Yandoit Creek and the Gervasions" for $35. >

Hi Graham, thankyou for the message and the link for the Lamplough goldfield I will have a look at it later when I have replied to the unexpectedly large number of replies I got for my query. I am sure the account will be of help in giving me an idea of what conditions would have been like. Thankyou again. Regards Jenny DeAngelis. Spain. >A really good account of the rise and fall of a particular goldfield town, > Lamplough, can be found at http://home.vicnet.net.au/%7Eadhs/Article.html, > but I think we can confidently expect that the picture painted would have > been replicated many times, in connection with other rushes.

Hi Jenny If you contact http://www.daylesfordhistory.com.au/ they will help you. I purchased "The Settlement of Yandoit Creek and the Gervasions" for $35. Regards Bob -----Original Message----- From: Jenny De Angelis [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: July 8, 2008 7:18 AM To: AUS VIC GOLDFIELDS Subject: Living Conditions on goldfields Where can I find out what the living conditions would have been like on the goldfields at California Gully around the time the DeAngelis family arrived between 1856-1858? I imagine it would have been pretty rough and ready but just how rough and ready would that have been? Any information on how I can find out more on this aspect of the people and how they lived at that time would be welcome. Another question I have is about how long would the journey from London have taken? Regards Jenny DeAngelis Spain.