Hello Chris, What names please as I have a plan of the Tarnagulla Cemetery and may be able to help. Dave in Ballarat At 04:20 PM 18/07/2008, Christine Warren wrote: >I have three family members whose death certificates indicate they were >buried at Tarnagulla Cemetery - none of them are listed online - after >asking for help here I tried the cemetery trust but they could not help. > >Then, through this list, I discovered that all early records for the >cemetery had been destroyed in a fire. > >I am assuming they were too poor to have put up any form of headstone and so >have disappeared from sight in the present time. A pity, as I would have >liked to have put up a simple wooden cross with their names on it. > >Chris > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "David & Sandra Bales" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 8:07 AM >Subject: Re: - Help on burial of Great/Grandfather > > > > It is possible for someone to be cremated and have the ashes placed in > > another cemetery. I will soon be doing just that with my Mum's ashes from > > Palmdale Crematorium near Gosford NSW being placed in Orange NSW where my > > father was buried.There is a gap of a few hundred km between Palmdale and > > Orange. > > David > > > > > >> Janet Gregurke wrote: > >>> Hi Pat, all though this will not actually help you, it is to let you > >>> know > >>> that the death certificate isn't all that it may seem. My grandfathers > >>> death cert said he was BURIED at Melbourne General, when in fact he was > >>> CREMATED at Fawkner Crematorium. So look out side the square, perhaps > >>> look at where his wife or family were buried. That may give you some > >>> clues. Hope this may help, Janet> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1545 - Release Date: 10/07/2008 > > 6:43 PM > > > > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message :-) Victorian Mining Accident Index, over 12,100 names sorted Alphabetically as well as by Place. on CDROM $20.00 plus Postage. Mining Registrars Reports 1859 to 1887 all Victoria, most reports published, send for a list to Dave Evans 439 Main Rd. Ballarat, 3350 Victoria or email [email protected]

I have three family members whose death certificates indicate they were buried at Tarnagulla Cemetery - none of them are listed online - after asking for help here I tried the cemetery trust but they could not help. Then, through this list, I discovered that all early records for the cemetery had been destroyed in a fire. I am assuming they were too poor to have put up any form of headstone and so have disappeared from sight in the present time. A pity, as I would have liked to have put up a simple wooden cross with their names on it. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "David & Sandra Bales" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 8:07 AM Subject: Re: - Help on burial of Great/Grandfather > It is possible for someone to be cremated and have the ashes placed in > another cemetery. I will soon be doing just that with my Mum's ashes from > Palmdale Crematorium near Gosford NSW being placed in Orange NSW where my > father was buried.There is a gap of a few hundred km between Palmdale and > Orange. > David > > >> Janet Gregurke wrote: >>> Hi Pat, all though this will not actually help you, it is to let you >>> know >>> that the death certificate isn't all that it may seem. My grandfathers >>> death cert said he was BURIED at Melbourne General, when in fact he was >>> CREMATED at Fawkner Crematorium. So look out side the square, perhaps >>> look at where his wife or family were buried. That may give you some >>> clues. Hope this may help, Janet> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1545 - Release Date: 10/07/2008 > 6:43 PM > > >

I did the same with my mother - at the time of her death we were all living in Brisbane. She was cremated in Brisbane and her ashes returned to Sydney for interment in a niche at Rookwood Cemetery near other members of her family. I would think it's more important for the certificate to state where the person is buried. Carol

Yes you can do that - we did it with hubby's mum's ashes. She was cremated at Lismore and the ashes were interred at Woronora at Sutherland HelenKirwin (nee Malligan) ----- Original Message ----- From: "David & Sandra Bales" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 8:07 AM Subject: Re: - Help on burial of Great/Grandfather > It is possible for someone to be cremated and have the ashes placed in > another cemetery. I will soon be doing just that with my Mum's ashes from > Palmdale Crematorium near Gosford NSW being placed in Orange NSW where my > father was buried.There is a gap of a few hundred km between Palmdale and > Orange. > David > > >> Janet Gregurke wrote: >>> Hi Pat, all though this will not actually help you, it is to let you >>> know >>> that the death certificate isn't all that it may seem. My grandfathers >>> death cert said he was BURIED at Melbourne General, when in fact he was >>> CREMATED at Fawkner Crematorium. So look out side the square, perhaps >>> look at where his wife or family were buried. That may give you some >>> clues. Hope this may help, Janet> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It is possible for someone to be cremated and have the ashes placed in another cemetery. I will soon be doing just that with my Mum's ashes from Palmdale Crematorium near Gosford NSW being placed in Orange NSW where my father was buried.There is a gap of a few hundred km between Palmdale and Orange. David > Janet Gregurke wrote: >> Hi Pat, all though this will not actually help you, it is to let you know >> that the death certificate isn't all that it may seem. My grandfathers >> death cert said he was BURIED at Melbourne General, when in fact he was >> CREMATED at Fawkner Crematorium. So look out side the square, perhaps >> look at where his wife or family were buried. That may give you some >> clues. Hope this may help, Janet>

Hi Pat. It would be best to ring the cemetery trust. On the website they say that not all burials are online. I recently had the same problem, and a call to Bendigo (and a bit of subsequent "digging") knocked down a large brick wall. The people at Bendigo are very nice, and I am sure will help you fid a way to trace him. Johnno. jstt at alphalink dot com dot au ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Sharp" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:25 PM Subject: Re:- Help on burial of Great/Grandfather > Hello List, > > I have just been reading the death certificate for my Great/Grandfather > SOPER Edwin/Edward, who died in April 1877, aged 42 years. > > On the death certificate, it states he died at New Chum, (near Bendigo), > and buried at Sandhurst cemetery. But I have checked the online cemteries > for the Bendigo area, and have had no luck in finding him. > > My question is, would there be any other cemetery around sandhurst that is > not online under the Bendigo Trust, that he may be in. Or any suggestions > would be greatly appreciated, on what I can do to find him. Or would > someone have a cd disk for the cemteries in this area. > > Thank you > Pat > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.0/1556 - Release Date: 7/16/2008 > 4:56 PM > >

Good points I'm sure - cremations weren't common back in the 1870s however the death certificates in the 1870s were fairly accurate - and I don't believe that just because on-line indexes don't mention the name that there is a problem .. some quiet contemplation and the answer will come - be sure of it ... Janet Gregurke wrote: > Hi Pat, all though this will not actually help you, it is to let you know that the death certificate isn't all that it may seem. My grandfathers death cert said he was BURIED at Melbourne General, when in fact he was CREMATED at Fawkner Crematorium. So look out side the square, perhaps look at where his wife or family were buried. That may give you some clues. Hope this may help, Janet> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Subject: Re:- Help on burial of Great/Grandfather> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:25:13 +1000> > Hello List,> > I have just been reading the death certificate for my Great/Grandfather SOPER Edwin/Edward, who died in April 1877, aged 42 years.> > On the death certificate, it states he died at New Chum, (near Bendigo), and buried at Sandhurst cemetery. But I have checked the online cemteries for the Bendigo area, and have had no luck in finding him.> > My question is, would there be any other cemetery around sandhurst that is not on! li! > ne under the Bendigo Trust, that he may be in. Or any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, on what I can do to find him. Or would someone have a cd disk for the cemteries in this area.> > Thank you> Pat> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello List, I have just been reading the death certificate for my Great/Grandfather SOPER Edwin/Edward, who died in April 1877, aged 42 years. On the death certificate, it states he died at New Chum, (near Bendigo), and buried at Sandhurst cemetery. But I have checked the online cemteries for the Bendigo area, and have had no luck in finding him. My question is, would there be any other cemetery around sandhurst that is not online under the Bendigo Trust, that he may be in. Or any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, on what I can do to find him. Or would someone have a cd disk for the cemteries in this area. Thank you Pat

Hi Barbara Thanks for your reply. I had tried that method for births but as none had the right parents I disregarded them. Pamela found Eliza(Elizabeth) born 1855 shown as SLOOPS and as it happens it was her as she married Thomas William KELLER who is the informant on Elizabeth (Eliza) DENNISS's death certificate and is shown as son-in-law. Unfortunately I couldn't find any of the other 4 deceased children. The one in Victoria was Sarah and there are two living ones in NSW William and Elizabeth. No idea where the rest are if there others. It wouldn't be the first time that there were errors on a death certificate. Thanks again for your interest Gary -----Original Message----- From: Maurie O'Connor [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, 17 July 2008 3:29 PM To: Gary Bond; [email protected] Subject: Re: Help Needed NSW BDM can be searched online for free - www.bdm.nsw.gov.au I did a search for births Stoops, 1852 - 1860 and came up with V18541165 52/1854 STOOPS FANNY ROBERT Buy Now 6252/1856 STOOPS WILLIAM A ROBERT MARGARET NEWCASTLE Buy Now You can use wildcards, as in my search for a death for st**ps which resulted in only one entry - 31/1858 STOOPS JAMES AGE 30 YEARS DIED SYDNEY SYDNEY Buy Now You can use "very" wildcards as in a death search in 1852 only, using only * for surname and Elizabeth for Given Name = 129 Elizabeth's registered as having died in 1852. Doesn't look like much joy for you in Sydney. You could get a transcription of the death registration ($15 from a transcriber - cheaper and much, much quicker than NSW BDMs). The occupation of James might give you some insight into why he was in Sydney. Regards Barbara

NSW BDM can be searched online for free - www.bdm.nsw.gov.au I did a search for births Stoops, 1852 - 1860 and came up with V18541165 52/1854 STOOPS FANNY ROBERT Buy Now 6252/1856 STOOPS WILLIAM A ROBERT MARGARET NEWCASTLE Buy Now You can use wildcards, as in my search for a death for st**ps which resulted in only one entry - 31/1858 STOOPS JAMES AGE 30 YEARS DIED SYDNEY SYDNEY Buy Now You can use "very" wildcards as in a death search in 1852 only, using only * for surname and Elizabeth for Given Name = 129 Elizabeth's registered as having died in 1852. Doesn't look like much joy for you in Sydney. You could get a transcription of the death registration ($15 from a transcriber - cheaper and much, much quicker than NSW BDMs). The occupation of James might give you some insight into why he was in Sydney. Regards Barbara

Hi Pat, all though this will not actually help you, it is to let you know that the death certificate isn't all that it may seem. My grandfathers death cert said he was BURIED at Melbourne General, when in fact he was CREMATED at Fawkner Crematorium. So look out side the square, perhaps look at where his wife or family were buried. That may give you some clues. Hope this may help, Janet> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Subject: Re:- Help on burial of Great/Grandfather> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:25:13 +1000> > Hello List,> > I have just been reading the death certificate for my Great/Grandfather SOPER Edwin/Edward, who died in April 1877, aged 42 years.> > On the death certificate, it states he died at New Chum, (near Bendigo), and buried at Sandhurst cemetery. But I have checked the online cemteries for the Bendigo area, and have had no luck in finding him.> > My question is, would there be any other cemetery around sandhurst that is not online under the Bendigo Trust, that he may be in. Or any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, on what I can do to find him. Or would someone have a cd disk for the cemteries in this area.> > Thank you> Pat> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Want to help Windows Live Messenger plant more Aussie trees? http://livelife.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=443698

Good Morning Listers My GG grandfather William BOND married Eliza TAYLOR widow in 1859 in Sydney. She was 23 making her date of birth 1836. William ended up in England and was medically discharged from the army in 1861. After a great deal of searching I found that Eliza BOND married William DENNISS in 1869 again as a widow. I have each of the certificates for the marriages. I also have the death certificate for Eliza ( Elizabeth ) DENNISS in 1886 aged 50. The death certificate showed a number of interesting facts. It showed that she had been married aged 16 ( altered from 33 ) and there is a notation which reads " deceased was previously married twice - in Melbourne and in Sydney". In the past I could not find the Melbourne marriage as I assumed that TAYLOR was her husband's name but it turns out that was her birth name. I then managed to find a marriage in 1852 to James STOOPS which ties in with her being married at age 16. I also found that James STOOPS died in Sydney in 1858 which again supports her being a widow in 1859 when she married William BOND. All this tells me that I have the right person. Now for the problem. The death certificate shows children of the marriage as Elizabeth 30, William 27 ( my G grandfather ) living and 5 children deceased. I have found that Eliza and James had a daughter in 1852 in Melbourne who died aged 2mths. I have searched the Vic BDM and the NSW BDM sites and cannot find any other children for Eliza in any of her three marriages. The one that most interests me is Elizabeth who would have been born whilst she was still with James STOOPS. Does anybody out there have access to BDM records for the other states? I am wondering if the family may have left Victoria and gone somewhere else before ending up in Sydney after all James was about 24 and Eliza 16 so they may have set out on a great adventure after the death of their daughter in 1852. Any suggestions gratefully received. Regards

The statement that, any hardware that is older than Vista, won't work with it is incorrect. Most hardware that works on XP will work perfectly well with Vista. Some hardware MIGHT need a patch available from the manufacturer. I have Vista on my laptop and XP on my desktop and all my hardware works perfectly well with both computers, as does all the software I ran on XP prior to buying the Vista equipped computer. Vista is not that different from XP. Someone once actually described it as XP with a new coat of paint. Of course, anyone buying a new computer will get Vista but Microsoft have promised to continue supporting XP for another 5 years or so which means no one has to change so you can stick with whatever you prefer for the time being. I'm sure there are plenty of people out there still happily using Windows 98 Nick The Serpell One Name Study Researching Serpells and variants across the world Member: Cornwall Family History Society. The Society of Genealogists. The Guild of One Name Studies Website: www.serpell.org E.mail: [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Amanda Curran Sent: 14 July 2008 22:54 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Goldfields Hospital index My Vista Story. I was going to upgrade to Vista but my darling computer man told me NO. None of my printers, scanners plus my precious Gene CD's will work. He said any hardware that is older then Vista is useless. So glad I listened to him. My daughter has Vista and is not happy with it. Next time I'm in Sydney I will take my XP CD and get rid of her Vista programme. Best wishes Amanda ------------------- > Hi Sue, > > I know a few people in the IT industry who all say that Vista is more > trouble than it's worth. If I were you, I would go back to XP. But that's > just my opinion :-) > > Kind Regards > Narelle > Hi all, > I own this index and was able to provide lookups for listers but since > upgrading to VISTA I can't use it. It lets me type in names but not look > at > > results. Does anyone know if there's anything that I can do? > > Regards > Sue ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My Vista Story. I was going to upgrade to Vista but my darling computer man told me NO. None of my printers, scanners plus my precious Gene CD's will work. He said any hardware that is older then Vista is useless. So glad I listened to him. My daughter has Vista and is not happy with it. Next time I'm in Sydney I will take my XP CD and get rid of her Vista programme. Best wishes Amanda ------------------- > Hi Sue, > > I know a few people in the IT industry who all say that Vista is more > trouble than it's worth. If I were you, I would go back to XP. But that's > just my opinion :-) > > Kind Regards > Narelle > Hi all, > I own this index and was able to provide lookups for listers but since > upgrading to VISTA I can't use it. It lets me type in names but not look > at > > results. Does anyone know if there's anything that I can do? > > Regards > Sue

So do I and that's why I've still got XP Pro!! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Narelle Sent: Monday, 14 July 2008 8:52 PM To: 'Sue'; [email protected] Subject: RE: Goldfields Hospital index Hi Sue, I know a few people in the IT industry who all say that Vista is more trouble than it's worth. If I were you, I would go back to XP. But that's just my opinion :-) Kind Regards Narelle -----Original Message----- From: Sue [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, 11 July 2008 1:20 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Goldfields Hospital index Hi all, I own this index and was able to provide lookups for listers but since upgrading to VISTA I can't use it. It lets me type in names but not look at results. Does anyone know if there's anything that I can do? Regards Sue ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Sue, I know a few people in the IT industry who all say that Vista is more trouble than it's worth. If I were you, I would go back to XP. But that's just my opinion :-) Kind Regards Narelle -----Original Message----- From: Sue [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, 11 July 2008 1:20 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Goldfields Hospital index Hi all, I own this index and was able to provide lookups for listers but since upgrading to VISTA I can't use it. It lets me type in names but not look at results. Does anyone know if there's anything that I can do? Regards Sue

James (a miner originally from Ireland) and Isabella (nee REID, originally from Scotland) ELLIOTT arrived in SA from Plymouth 1857, with sons John and David. They moved to Vic goldfields (don't know how/when) and had the following children: James b. 1859 Smythsdale; Abraham b.1861 Black Hill; Marrian b 1865 Scarsdale (d.1866 Scarsdale); Isabella b. 1867 Sebastapol and Violet b. 1870 Springhurst. The family moved to the Hunter Valley NSW abt 1875. Does anyone have any information about this family during their time in Victoria, please? Stephanie -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 29 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

To the person who just replied to me could you re-send as my email program deleted your mail before I had a chance to read it. cheers Dorothy

Hi Everyone, I have just had a great week away in the Goldfields area, near Dunolly. While there my friend and I took headstone photo's at the following cemeteries: Barkley Barkley Pioneer Landsborough Redbank Rheola Tarnagulla Lockwood Once I have named them all I will be happy to do lookups for anyone and email the photo's as before. Also while I was there I was able to hand over a copy of the entire Goldfields Shire Cemeteries Headstone Photo's to a lovely lady who is connected with the Maryborough History. I promised her a copy before I moved from up there so was very pleased to be able to honour my promise. cheers Dorothy (Back in suburbia, and hating it)

I am trying to trying to find out more about the family of William H. Reynolds who lived in Lily St Sandhurst, Bendigo at least during 1872-1873. The family arrived in Victoria aboard the Kent in September 1867. William was a mine manager and had a number of children who would have been of school age, Theodora 10, Edmund 6, Mabel 8, John 12, older children were Adatha 19 and William 15. I would like to find out if there are any surviving records of school registrations in the area of that time. The family later moved to the Central West of NSW. Thank you Sallie Ramsay