Customer Service [[email protected]] was able to help with query regarding burial details in Stawell Cemetery. Margaret

Hi Marianne, Have you 'Googled' for this book - I just did and found quite a few references and booksellers with copies. Alternatively, try your local library and if they don't have a copy, they could search other areas and ask for an inter-library loan - I'm assuming you are in Australia? Carol from a very wet, windy and just miserable Warners Bay, NSW

I can't recommend a researcher for the area, but if you let the list know what you are wanting to find out you will probably be pleasantly surprised by the answers. regards Janet> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Subject: re Stawell Research> Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 21:22:49 +1000> > > Can anyone recommend a researcher who specialises in Stawell/Pleasant Creek research please.> regards> Sharon> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Are you a friend magnet? Play now to win prizes for you and your friends! http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/106906016/direct/01/?href=http://www.friendmagnet.com.au

Can anyone recommend a researcher who specialises in Stawell/Pleasant Creek research please. regards Sharon

Hello list, Does anyone have knowledge of the book " Aspects of Early Blackwood" The Goldfields, The Landmarks, The Pioneers. My ancestor Nicholas White was a Schoolmaster at Blackwood / Barry's Reef 1874 -1875. Looking for any information. Marianne

I am trying to contact Kaye, great granddaughter of John Gilpin FITZGERALD (c1870-1949) and Honorah FITZGERALD (nee LEYDEN) (c1865-1951). Kaye sent me an email in Jan 2005 (her then email address was [email protected]) about this family who lived at Bungaree. I need to confirm with Kaye that she is related to my spouse. Would Kaye please send me an email message to [email protected] Thanks Daryl Murphy Brisbane QLD _________________________________________________________________ Net yourself a bargain. Find great deals on eBay. http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Frover%2Eebay%2Ecom%2Frover%2F1%2F705%2D10129%2D5668%2D323%2F4%3Fid%3D10&_t=763807330&_r=hotmailTAGLINES&_m=EXT

Dear Listers, I have received the following from an email friend in the U.K. Can anyone please help with his query. "My information is an extract from a book called " Gloucestershire Machine Breakers" Robert Cowley was born about 1804 or 1805 in Fairford GLS. A Robert Cowley married 1855 to Elizabeth Shanno Boyd, VIC/51. Probably no children from this marriage. Died age 83 at Dunolly, Victoria 1888, VIC/1291. That is all the information I have. " Any help very much appreciated. Steph. Adelaide.

I think you'll find Kimberley is now known as Tanwood. GPS Longitude 143.39° & Latitude 37.01° -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Phil Waring Sent: Sunday, 24 August 2008 6:07 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Goldmining village Kimberley, Pyrenees Hi, Could anyone please direct me to where I could find a map which shows the location of the small settlement of Kimberley in the Pyrenees near Avoca, Vic in the early 1870s. It was never gazetted as a town or village, so doesn't appear on parish plans (Warrenmang or Yehrip). Flett's book "History of Gold Discovery in Victoria" (p456) mentions "a small village called Kimberley", with a reference to Mining Registrar's Reports, Sept 1871, Special Report, Plan. Unfortunately, I've looked at the bound volume of these reports for 1869-71 in the State Library Vic, and there is no such plan included.! Can anyone make any suggestions please, particularly re Kimberley, but also generally. There are also several other transient gold mining rush towns in the area which were never gazetted as towns or villages, eg Donkey Hill, Glendhu, Number Two Creek. I know roughly where these settlements would have been, but am seeking more precise information. Phil Waring Pubs of the Pyrenees project (all hotels, shanties, etc) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Subject: Goldmining village Kimberley, Pyrenees Hi Phil, A list compiled from inquest files 1854-60, Victoria Police Gazettes 1853-70, Parish maps and local histories states that Kimberley is now TANWOOD, 13 km. from Avoca. Regards, Trish.

Hi, Could anyone please direct me to where I could find a map which shows the location of the small settlement of Kimberley in the Pyrenees near Avoca, Vic in the early 1870s. It was never gazetted as a town or village, so doesn't appear on parish plans (Warrenmang or Yehrip). Flett's book "History of Gold Discovery in Victoria" (p456) mentions "a small village called Kimberley", with a reference to Mining Registrar's Reports, Sept 1871, Special Report, Plan. Unfortunately, I've looked at the bound volume of these reports for 1869-71 in the State Library Vic, and there is no such plan included.! Can anyone make any suggestions please, particularly re Kimberley, but also generally. There are also several other transient gold mining rush towns in the area which were never gazetted as towns or villages, eg Donkey Hill, Glendhu, Number Two Creek. I know roughly where these settlements would have been, but am seeking more precise information. Phil Waring Pubs of the Pyrenees project (all hotels, shanties, etc)

There is also an article on this page in papers past re the death of a child there http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=GRA18690928.2.13&cl=&srpos=0&st=1&e=-------en--1----0-all and also this page in the book Not Dead Yet "But Cadgers's Ally was the metropolis of the Pig-sty Gully district - which lay on the extreme outskirts of the Bendigo country, and at least nine mile from the noble creek after which the wide gold-field was named. http://books.google.com.au/books?id=baIiAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA194&lpg=PA194&dq=pigsty+gully+bendigo&source=web&ots=zhpXbbDNhz&sig=pp38jvWx1W75KL1L5fz2HCjP0Fw&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=2&ct=result Regards, Maxine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Elsbury" <[email protected]> To: "'Alison Armstrong'" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 4:27 PM Subject: RE: Pigsty Gully Bendigo > Hi > > The only reference to Pigsty Gully in Victoria I could find from a quick > search is here > http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=GRA18690928.2.13&c > l=&srpos=0&st=1&e=-------en--1----0-all > > There is a reference to Black Swamp in the same article. If you search > Google Maps for Black Swamp Victoria one is shown West of Ballarat. > > Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alison Armstrong [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: August 22, 2008 8:23 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Pigsty Gully Bendigo > > Hello > > Would anyone know the locality of Pigsty Gully in Bendigo , in the 1800's? > > > > Any suggestions welcome. > > > > Thank you > > > > Alison Armstrong > > [email protected] > > > > > > >

Hi The only reference to Pigsty Gully in Victoria I could find from a quick search is here http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=GRA18690928.2.13&c l=&srpos=0&st=1&e=-------en--1----0-all There is a reference to Black Swamp in the same article. If you search Google Maps for Black Swamp Victoria one is shown West of Ballarat. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Alison Armstrong [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: August 22, 2008 8:23 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Pigsty Gully Bendigo Hello Would anyone know the locality of Pigsty Gully in Bendigo , in the 1800's? Any suggestions welcome. Thank you Alison Armstrong [email protected]

Hello Would anyone know the locality of Pigsty Gully in Bendigo , in the 1800's? Any suggestions welcome. Thank you Alison Armstrong [email protected]

Thank you all for your suggestions, we are trying to scan some of them now and we will use the expertise of a 13 year old to adjust some of them to make the scans clearer. Helen St Andrews 150th anniversary School, Post Office and Pub, November 28th, 29th and 30th 2008. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Helen Kenney Sent: 14 August 2008 23:22 To: [email protected] Subject: Photocopies Our historical society relies on photocopies for many of our records and we have just discovered that some of them are deteriorating despite being kept in acid free pockets and limited exposure to sun light. Are we going to end up looking at blank paper or is there something that we can do to stop the breakdown? A lot of the copies have come from the PRO, maybe it is the way that they can keep making an income causing us to come back and pay again for copies. Helen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ask the PROV or the conservator at your nearest major library. I would suspect you should be using polypropylene sleeves and the material should have been photocopied onto acid free copy paper (certainly not recycled paper) but check with a qualified conservator. Regards, Chris -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Helen Kenney Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2008 10:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Photocopies Our historical society relies on photocopies for many of our records and we have just discovered that some of them are deteriorating despite being kept in acid free pockets and limited exposure to sun light. Are we going to end up looking at blank paper or is there something that we can do to stop the breakdown? A lot of the copies have come from the PRO, maybe it is the way that they can keep making an income causing us to come back and pay again for copies. Helen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hmmm ... how old are these copies? and what records would they be? anyhow - how about you try scanning a few of them - print them again and save the files of the scans so that you may access them later - make back-ups . keep your fingers crossed. consider transcribing the information from the documents .. and contact the PRO - I'm sure they would like to know what is happening - they may have some good ideas and suggestions. cheers Robert ps - you have any ancestors that may have married into the Brooks, Rippon or Watson families? Helen Kenney wrote: > Our historical society relies on photocopies for many of our records and we > have just discovered that some of them are deteriorating despite being kept > in acid free pockets and limited exposure to sun light. Are we going to end > up looking at blank paper or is there something that we can do to stop the > breakdown? A lot of the copies have come from the PRO, maybe it is the way > that they can keep making an income causing us to come back and pay again > for copies. > > Helen > >

Our historical society relies on photocopies for many of our records and we have just discovered that some of them are deteriorating despite being kept in acid free pockets and limited exposure to sun light. Are we going to end up looking at blank paper or is there something that we can do to stop the breakdown? A lot of the copies have come from the PRO, maybe it is the way that they can keep making an income causing us to come back and pay again for copies. Helen

Photocopy images are never going to be long lasting. They are normally produced with toner powder that is heated to make it stick to the paper. Try rubbing one when it is new and the image usually blurs. Eventually it will fade and do so more quickly than matter printed directly. Why don't you scan the photocopies into a computer while they are fresh and then you have a more permanent record which can be printed when required Nick The Serpell One Name Study Researching Serpells and variants across the world Member: Cornwall Family History Society. The Society of Genealogists. The Guild of One Name Studies Website: www.serpell.org E.mail: [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Helen Kenney Sent: 14 August 2008 14:22 To: [email protected] Subject: Photocopies Our historical society relies on photocopies for many of our records and we have just discovered that some of them are deteriorating despite being kept in acid free pockets and limited exposure to sun light. Are we going to end up looking at blank paper or is there something that we can do to stop the breakdown? A lot of the copies have come from the PRO, maybe it is the way that they can keep making an income causing us to come back and pay again for copies. Helen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello again Helen, I have now had another chat with my husband.  The shelf life of photocopy paper depends on where it was manufactured. Australian photocopy paper is naturally acidic as clay is used as a filler and our clay is acidic. In fact he said that their tests of accelerated ageing gave a half life of just 1 year to the photocopy paper (that is without any toner or ink etc). In that time the paper lost half its properties such as ability to resist tearing and its tensile strength. After 20 years of accelerated aging the paper disintergrated into dust when handled. Most English some European and some American photocopy papers are naturally "basic" rather than "acidic" because they use chalk or calcium carbonate as their fillers. Primarially because that is what they have locally.  This means that those papers are naturally archival and will last for decades. So it depends on the location of the paper mill as to the local resources it uses for fillers that determine the shelf life of the paper and in Australia we are rather short on chalk and have plenty of clay. So our paper degrades faster. Hopefully that is all understandable and gives you an explanation as to why it is happening. I realise that it is not good news. However it does mean that you now can think around the problem and look at solutions.  Remember that CDs also degrade and have a projected life of just 5 years as well. There are archival cds available however they are very expensive. As others have suggested, scanning and saving to a hard drive may be the way to go as long as you remember to do independant backups onto a seperate hard drive. Good luck Tia ----- Original Message ---- From: Helen Kenney <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, 14 August, 2008 11:22:12 PM Subject: Photocopies Our historical society relies on photocopies for many of our records and we have just discovered that some of them are deteriorating despite being kept in acid free pockets and limited exposure to sun light. Are we going to end up looking at blank paper or is there something that we can do to stop the breakdown? A lot of the copies have come from the PRO, maybe it is the way that they can keep making an income causing us to come back and pay again for copies. Helen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Win a MacBook Air or iPod touch with Yahoo!7. http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset

According to my husband who used to work as a research assistant in R&D for APM, photocopy paper has a shelf life of less than 10 years before the paper itself begins to degrade. Application of toner etc will hasten the degradation process (Recycled paper degrades faster BTW).  They did do test runs on archival quality photocopy paper which had a 100 year life span before begining to degrade but I don't believe that there was enough commercial demand (it was more expensive to make) so most of it was re pulped. That was at least 15 years ago. So if the PRO is using recycled paper - as a lot of buisnesses do to save money and be "green" then yes they would degrade reasonably quickly over time. The "normal" photocopy paper would also degrade just not quite as quickly, and the PRO would not even be aware of this side effect. Hope this helps Tia ----- Original Message ---- From: Helen Kenney <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, 14 August, 2008 11:22:12 PM Subject: Photocopies Our historical society relies on photocopies for many of our records and we have just discovered that some of them are deteriorating despite being kept in acid free pockets and limited exposure to sun light. Are we going to end up looking at blank paper or is there something that we can do to stop the breakdown? A lot of the copies have come from the PRO, maybe it is the way that they can keep making an income causing us to come back and pay again for copies. Helen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Win a MacBook Air or iPod touch with Yahoo!7. http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset