There's sure to be a directory that will help - I believe Sands and McDougall directories covered Ballarat at this time .. in Victoria, many of the public libraries have a family history section containing the Sands and McDougall directories on microfiche .. not sure about NSW... perhaps check with the local libary - they may locate a library nearby that may help? What a fascinating family the Hollanders must have been - still are I expect :) And such large families - At the National Archives site - where I imagine Lesley has already checked and gathered information: Lewis Hollander's 1904 naturalization application made in NSW indicates that Lewis arrived in Port Melbourne in 1857 and went to Sydney in about 1900-1901 and that he had 13 children ... Jacob Hollander - also moved to NSW and appears to have been involved in the development of a linotype process - both men seem to be involved in manufacturing of some sort .. good luck Robert in warm Melbourne - hoping for more rain ... Lesley Booth wrote: > Hello List, > > Could anyone tell me if there is a directory for the shops of Ballarat in > 1878. I have found a reference to Mr. Hollander who owned a shop in 1878, > and wondered if it was my great-grandfather Lewis or his brother Jacob. > They both lived in Ballarat at that time. > > Thanking you, > > Lesley on the beautiful northern beaches of Sydney > > >

Thank you for your help Mary..... Lillian

Hi Listers, is anyone researching these families? Thank you, Jeanette

Hello List, Could anyone tell me if there is a directory for the shops of Ballarat in 1878. I have found a reference to Mr. Hollander who owned a shop in 1878, and wondered if it was my great-grandfather Lewis or his brother Jacob. They both lived in Ballarat at that time. Thanking you, Lesley on the beautiful northern beaches of Sydney

Lillian, I was just looking through Charles Samuel's war record and he was killed in 1916 and it states his medals were given to his eldest brother - Albert Ernest so that would confirm Edwin had died before he enlisted in 1916. There is an Edwin ADAMS that died in WA in 1911 but there is no more information in the index such as age or parents to indicate it might be the right one. Regards Mary From: Mary Schoorman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, 10 November 2008 9:08 PM To: 'lillian'; '[email protected]' Subject: RE: ADAMS Lillian, I have all Adams records for Victoria extracted to a file and here are all the records I can find for the family (hopefully the table comes out). There is no death record for an Edwin where the age matches or is even close to his date of birth. Database Surname Given Names Event Sex Spouse Surname/Father Spouse Gvn Names/Mother Age Birth Place Death Place Year Victorian Pioneers Index ADAMS Mary Ann B Thos Sarah Elizth WESTICOTT DFORD 1869 Victorian Pioneers Index ADAMS Edwin B Thomas Sarah E WESTICOTT DAYL 1886 Victorian Pioneers Index ADAMS Alfred Ernest B Thomas Sarah Elizabeth WESTICOTT DAYL 1872 Victorian Pioneers Index ADAMS William Thomas B Thomas Sarah Elizabeth WESTICOTT DFORD 1874 Victorian Pioneers Index ADAMS James B Thomas Sarah Elizabeth WESTICOTT DA YL 1878 Victorian Pioneers Index ADAMS Chas Saml B Thos Sarah Elizth WESTICOTT D FORD 1880 Federation Index ADAMS Joseph B M Thos Sarah Elizth WESTICOTT DAYLESFORD 1889 Federation Index ADAMS Jno Hy B M Thos Sarah Elizth WESTICOTT DAYLESFORD 1891 Victorian Pioneers Index ADAMS Samuel Thomas B Thomas Sarah WESTICOTT DAYL 1870 Victorian Pioneers Index ADAMS George Herbert B Thomas Sarah WESTICOTT DAYL 1883 Victorian Pioneers Index ADAMS Thomas M WESTICOTT Sarah Elizabeth TASMANIA 1868 Federation Index ADAMS Sarah Snart Elizth D F Westicott Saml Ellen WALSH 47 Dford 1895 Edwardian Index ADAMS Thos D Unknown Unknown UNKNOWN 70 Dford 1904 Victoria Death Index 1921-1985 SARTORI Mary Ann D Adams Thos Sarah Ann WESTICOTT 65 DFORD 1936 Both parents died in Daylesford so you would expect the family to have stayed around but Mary Ann is the only child appearing in the Victorian Indexes after the births. I searched the national archives http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx and found that for the war records of James & Charles Samuel, they both listed next of kin as Alfred Ernest ADAMS in WA so it might be worth looking to Western Australia for records of Edwin. Maybe he had died before they enlisted as being the oldest brother you would think that he might have been listed as next of kin. Regards Mary -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of lillian Sent: Monday, 10 November 2008 8:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: ADAMS Anyone with info re. Edwin ADAMS born 1886 Daylesford... parents were Thomas ADAMS & Elizabeth WESTICOTT ... I can find no trace him anywhere.... Lillian ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lillian, I have all Adams records for Victoria extracted to a file and here are all the records I can find for the family (hopefully the table comes out). There is no death record for an Edwin where the age matches or is even close to his date of birth. Database Surname Given Names Event Sex Spouse Surname/Father Spouse Gvn Names/Mother Age Birth Place Death Place Year Victorian Pioneers Index ADAMS Mary Ann B Thos Sarah Elizth WESTICOTT DFORD 1869 Victorian Pioneers Index ADAMS Edwin B Thomas Sarah E WESTICOTT DAYL 1886 Victorian Pioneers Index ADAMS Alfred Ernest B Thomas Sarah Elizabeth WESTICOTT DAYL 1872 Victorian Pioneers Index ADAMS William Thomas B Thomas Sarah Elizabeth WESTICOTT DFORD 1874 Victorian Pioneers Index ADAMS James B Thomas Sarah Elizabeth WESTICOTT DA YL 1878 Victorian Pioneers Index ADAMS Chas Saml B Thos Sarah Elizth WESTICOTT D FORD 1880 Federation Index ADAMS Joseph B M Thos Sarah Elizth WESTICOTT DAYLESFORD 1889 Federation Index ADAMS Jno Hy B M Thos Sarah Elizth WESTICOTT DAYLESFORD 1891 Victorian Pioneers Index ADAMS Samuel Thomas B Thomas Sarah WESTICOTT DAYL 1870 Victorian Pioneers Index ADAMS George Herbert B Thomas Sarah WESTICOTT DAYL 1883 Victorian Pioneers Index ADAMS Thomas M WESTICOTT Sarah Elizabeth TASMANIA 1868 Federation Index ADAMS Sarah Snart Elizth D F Westicott Saml Ellen WALSH 47 Dford 1895 Edwardian Index ADAMS Thos D Unknown Unknown UNKNOWN 70 Dford 1904 Victoria Death Index 1921-1985 SARTORI Mary Ann D Adams Thos Sarah Ann WESTICOTT 65 DFORD 1936 Both parents died in Daylesford so you would expect the family to have stayed around but Mary Ann is the only child appearing in the Victorian Indexes after the births. I searched the national archives http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx and found that for the war records of James & Charles Samuel, they both listed next of kin as Alfred Ernest ADAMS in WA so it might be worth looking to Western Australia for records of Edwin. Maybe he had died before they enlisted as being the oldest brother you would think that he might have been listed as next of kin. Regards Mary -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of lillian Sent: Monday, 10 November 2008 8:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: ADAMS Anyone with info re. Edwin ADAMS born 1886 Daylesford... parents were Thomas ADAMS & Elizabeth WESTICOTT ... I can find no trace him anywhere.... Lillian ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 25th August, 1864 at Ballarat West John LEDWITH and his wife Bridget nee McCORMACK had a daughter Adelaide. Their own address was given as Ballarat West. John's occupation was listed on the birth registration as "Hotel Keeper". Does SKS have access to a directory or list of licensed premises and/or publicans that could give any additional information? The couple appear to have been married in Adelaide a couple of years earlier although no record can be found. John was 35 and from Co. Clare and Bridget was 24 and from Co. Westmeath. I tend to think that Ballarat West in 1860 was what is the main part of the city to-day and of course there was the odd hotel or three! ANY information would be most gratefully received Regards, Chris

Anyone with info re. Edwin ADAMS born 1886 Daylesford... parents were Thomas ADAMS & Elizabeth WESTICOTT ... I can find no trace him anywhere.... Lillian

From: Chris Ward [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, 7 November 2008 7:07 AM To: '[email protected]' Subject: RE: [AVG] newspapers for Bairnsdale 1907 G'day Tia, There was an inquest. Number 107 of 1907. I understand the details can be viewed at the PRO or a copy can be ordered through Macbeth Genealogical Services in Hampton; no doubt for a fee. As there were close to 1400 inquests in 1907 I'm not surprised that there were 3 listed on one page as that is less than the daily average! Regards, Chris -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tia McCombes Sent: Friday, 7 November 2008 6:29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [AVG] newspapers for Bairnsdale 1907 Hi all, I just got my Great Grandfather's (Edward Horne) death certificate and it says that there was a Magisterial Inquiry into his death. He died in Bairnsdale in 1907, so which newspapers served the area then? I hope that such Inquiries were reported in the news. I will hopefully get into the National Library in about 3 weeks or so, but they seem to have a number of different papers serving East Gippsland at different times and they overlap in years. So a little advice/recommendations would help. He was a jockey and my aunt had told me that he died in a horse riding accident. As the cause of death is listed as "Concussion of the brain" I am inclined to think that it may be the case, but a newspaper report would help. Interestingly of the 5 entries on the page2 of them have Magisterial Inquiries and one has a Magisterial order for burial Tia in Canberra Search 1000's of available singles in your area at the new Yahoo!7 Dating. Get Started http://au.dating.yahoo.com/?cid=53151&pid=1011 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Robert.. could you let me know the name of DVD you mentioned... Daylesford.. I accidently deleted your email.... Lillian

Hi Gaylene Many thanks for the additional info. I found JKB's death through a newspaper article and did wonder if there would have been an inquest. I live in California so would be very grateful if anyone going to the PROV could look up the details and send them to me. Many thanks. Lynne Hi Lynne, Saw your entry on the lists, were you aware there was an inquest into John Kelsall Browns unfortunate death.... Digger - Inquest Index. Victoria 1840 - 1985 Query ----- Surname : brown (1436 matches) Given Names : john (21156 matches) Total matching records: 170 -------------------- Surname: BROWN Given Names: John Kelsall Age: Place: Year: 1922 Reference: 24 Sex: Cause: Occupation: Inq Date: 1922-1-4 Nationality: Ship: Notes: There could be additional notes within the inquest papers that might help..... Not sure where you are, if you arent able to get to the PROV, ask the listers, I am sure someone can look yours up if they are in there ....... Gaylene

Seems like a longshot posting this request here? If the Sartoris are connected to Daylesford then may I suggest you take a trip to Daylesford - a pretty little town - sadly gentrified? is yuppyfied or antiquified latte creating the wrong impression? and a little expensive these days??? - but still very easy to imagine what the place must have been like a 100 - 130 or so years ago ...and well worth the effort of getting there .. short drive from Melbourne anyhow - when you get to Daylesford - find the museum - if it is still going? - they may have photographs of various family members .. they did have pics of my wife's grt.grandparents - so I imagine they may have Sartoris as well? I've changed the heading to more accurately reflect the request - and I believe there is a very helpful and probably very busy SKS and occasional reader of this site - Clare Gervasoni - very helpful when it comes to Daylesford and nearby Hepburn Springs - and may have some now distant connection to the SARTORIs - SARTORIs and GERVASONNIs at some stage married each other in the Daylesford region??? so you never know your luck .. FWIW - try getting the family tree organised and locate distant living relatives - they may have pictures in their albums that may assist you ... from what I've seen in my own family research - old photographs have a better chance of surviving if they fall into the hands of the female lines - so follow the daughters if you can - and to take your mind off the whole damn problem - get hold of a guaranteed feel good movie - out on DVD for some time now - filmed in and around the Hepburn Springs Daylesford district - Jan Sardi's romance - *Love's brother *- starring the brilliant Giovanni Ribisi, Adam Garcia, Amelia Warner - the story of 2 brothers finding their Italian wives in rural Australia - good luck Robert in Melbourne lillian wrote: > Still hoping sks will send me copies of photgraphs from the following families... Mary Ann Sartori nee Adams... her children.. McKenzie.. Rodda.. Lafranchie.. Erikson & Sartori.... Regards... Lillian > > -

Certainly John Kelsall BROWN is as you say but there are eight people with the forename Kelsall on the pioneer index - the other seven of which I have listed below. There, the K in each case is actually Kelsall on the index; there are four other births and three marriages which all include the birthplace of the first mentioned party. Hope this helps Dawn Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 Query ----- Surname : brown* (12898 matches) Given Names : kelsall (8 matches) Total matching records: 1 -------------------- Surname: BROWN Given Names: John Kelsall Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: John Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Alice GARLICK Age: Sex: Birth Place: TARN Death Place: Year: 1875 Reg Number: 19830 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: SCOTT Samuel Kelsall B Robert Newton Martha MCBRIDE DAYL 1863 MCWHIRTER Colin K B Lestoe C H Elizabeth KELSALL BUAN 1872 PRICE Annie K B John Pittard Ellen HARGREAVES BALL 1876 HOWE Phyllis Mary K B Charles F Has Annie How KELSALL YACK 1886 AUSTIN John K M SHALLARD Elizth Julia Dillon (born) LONDON 1866 BANCROFT Elizabeth Jane K M LIDDY John James SYDNEY 1869 BONCROFT Richard K M STANBERRY Elizabeth Alice DUBLIN 1871 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, 3 November 2008 10:36 AM To: [email protected] Subject: John Kelsall BROWN Hello In May I made enquiries to the list about my BROWN family. I got a lot of help at that time and a lot of very useful information. I am now hoping that someone may be able to help me clarify information about John Kelsall BROWN. His birth is listed as 1875 and his death was in 1922 aged 46 in Melbourne. JKB was the son of John BROWN and Alice GARLICK. I can find JKB on the Electoral Rolls, showing different addresses, occupation is either Clerk or Bank Clerk. I also found a newspaper article giving details of his death in 1922 at Graham Road, Highett. This article states he was a Bank Clerk. His age is given as 40 not 46. So all the information suggests the same person. However, Graham Road, Highett is not the address on the Electoral Rolls. The Electoral Rolls for 1919 and 1924 (2 years after JKB's death) is 2 Anderson St Melbourne. I accept that the newspaper article may have put the wrong age. However I am a little confused about the address given in the article, when compared to the Electoral Rolls. Why would he have a different address? Why would he appear on the Electoral Rolls 2 years after his death? Perhaps someone has an explanation for this. Maybe I am dealing with two different John Kelsall BROWN's, both born within 7 years of each other. I'm not convinced about this. Does anyone have access to birth records who could look up and see if this is a possibility? I would be very grateful for any help and advice. Many thanks Lynne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ NOD32 3576 (20081102) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com

Still hoping sks will send me copies of photgraphs from the following families... Mary Ann Sartori nee Adams... her children.. McKenzie.. Rodda.. Lafranchie.. Erikson & Sartori.... Regards... Lillian

Hi List, I have finished naming the above cemetery headstone photos, so if anyone would like a look-up and copy of a headstone contact me privately. cheers Dorothy [email protected]

Thank you Dawn for that additional information. Its interesting to see others with Kelsall in the name, I don't think there is any connection but will put the information in my files. Lynne ----- Original Message ---- From: Dawn Webb <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 1:11:58 PM Subject: RE: John Kelsall BROWN Certainly John Kelsall BROWN is as you say but there are eight people with the forename Kelsall on the pioneer index - the other seven of which I have listed below. There, the K in each case is actually Kelsall on the index; there are four other births and three marriages which all include the birthplace of the first mentioned party. Hope this helps Dawn Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 Query ----- Surname : brown* (12898 matches) Given Names : kelsall (8 matches) Total matching records: 1 -------------------- Surname: BROWN Given Names: John Kelsall Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: John Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Alice GARLICK Age: Sex: Birth Place: TARN Death Place: Year: 1875 Reg Number: 19830 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: SCOTT Samuel Kelsall B Robert Newton Martha MCBRIDE DAYL 1863 MCWHIRTER Colin K B Lestoe C H Elizabeth KELSALL BUAN 1872 PRICE Annie K B John Pittard Ellen HARGREAVES BALL 1876 HOWE Phyllis Mary K B Charles F Has Annie How KELSALL YACK 1886 AUSTIN John K M SHALLARD Elizth Julia Dillon (born) LONDON 1866 BANCROFT Elizabeth Jane K M LIDDY John James SYDNEY 1869 BONCROFT Richard K M STANBERRY Elizabeth Alice DUBLIN 1871

Hello Robert, I have had a reply from a relative of the Crowle family. I am not related, but have an old army document to do with Thomas Murray and have asked Judy for a postal address so I can send it on to them. Thanks for your help. Dave At 12:51 PM 3/11/2008, robert.j wrote: >Eliza Jane McRoberts nee Crowle had some children including a Gladys >Ilex? McRoberts - Gladys married Robert John LOWRY in Boulder, WA >in 1924 ... and were living in West Midland, Guildford subdistrict, >Swan District WA in 1936 - > >robert john LOWRY was born in boulder and had a number of siblings - >so maybe there are a few Lowry people still in the district and may >be able to hook Dave up with some Crowle family. > >good luck >Robert > > >Dave Evans wrote: >>Thanks Robert, >> >>Dave >>At 11:36 AM 3/11/2008, robert.j wrote: >>>Fascinating story- >>> >>>enlisting at about the age of 40 ... >>> >>>Thomas CROWLE born in Pleasant Creek/Stawel in 1873, father:John >>>CROWLE mother: Eliza Kirkham. >>> >>>Killed at gallipoli in 1915 ... >>> >>>In 1917 his Thomas's sister, Eliza Jane McRoberts nee CROWLE (born >>>1876 Pleasant Creek) writes from Boulder, WA, that her brother >>>apparently enlisted in the services - deserted and then went to >>>Sydney and enlisted again using the name Thomas MURRAY. >>> >>>the sister also wonders how it was possible for Thomas MURRAY to >>>enlist in Australia and be reported ead - KIA 3 months alter ... >>> >>>And we learn that Thomas had another sister - >>>Mrs. Alma Mather nee Crowle of Millswyn street South Yarra. (she >>>died in 1930) >>> >>>Alam had a couple of children - including Evelyn Maud MATHER - >>>Evelyn married a Patrick james HASSETT and had at least 2 children: >>> >>>John Stanley HASSETT and Evelyn Maud SAYERS nee Hassett >>> >>>so I guess somebody could try to locate family of John HASSETT or >>>Evelyn SAYERS ... >>> >>>the family were in the St.arnuad district ... check there? >>> >>>good luck >>> >>>Robert in melbourne. >>> >>> >>>Dave Evans wrote: >>>>Hi List, >>>>Looking for relatives of Pte T. Murray, K.I.A. 27 August 1915 >>>> >>>>Dave in Ballarat >>>> >>>> :-) Victorian Mining Accident Index, over 12,100 names sorted >>>> Alphabetically as well as by Place. on CDROM $20.00 plus Postage. >>>>Mining Registrars Reports 1859 to 1887 all Victoria, most reports >>>>published, send for a list to Dave Evans 439 Main Rd. Ballarat, >>>>3350 Victoria or email [email protected] >>>> >>>>------------------------------- >>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>[email protected] with the word >>>>'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >> >> :-) Victorian Mining Accident Index, over 12,100 names sorted >> Alphabetically as well as by Place. on CDROM $20.00 plus Postage. >>Mining Registrars Reports 1859 to 1887 all Victoria, most reports >>published, send for a list to Dave Evans 439 Main Rd. Ballarat, >>3350 Victoria or email [email protected] >> > :-) Victorian Mining Accident Index, over 12,100 names sorted Alphabetically as well as by Place. on CDROM $20.00 plus Postage. Mining Registrars Reports 1859 to 1887 all Victoria, most reports published, send for a list to Dave Evans 439 Main Rd. Ballarat, 3350 Victoria or email [email protected]

Eliza Jane McRoberts nee Crowle had some children including a Gladys Ilex? McRoberts - Gladys married Robert John LOWRY in Boulder, WA in 1924 ... and were living in West Midland, Guildford subdistrict, Swan District WA in 1936 - robert john LOWRY was born in boulder and had a number of siblings - so maybe there are a few Lowry people still in the district and may be able to hook Dave up with some Crowle family. good luck Robert Dave Evans wrote: > Thanks Robert, > > Dave > At 11:36 AM 3/11/2008, robert.j wrote: >> Fascinating story- >> >> enlisting at about the age of 40 ... >> >> Thomas CROWLE born in Pleasant Creek/Stawel in 1873, father:John >> CROWLE mother: Eliza Kirkham. >> >> Killed at gallipoli in 1915 ... >> >> In 1917 his Thomas's sister, Eliza Jane McRoberts nee CROWLE (born >> 1876 Pleasant Creek) writes from Boulder, WA, that her brother >> apparently enlisted in the services - deserted and then went to >> Sydney and enlisted again using the name Thomas MURRAY. >> >> the sister also wonders how it was possible for Thomas MURRAY to >> enlist in Australia and be reported ead - KIA 3 months alter ... >> >> And we learn that Thomas had another sister - >> Mrs. Alma Mather nee Crowle of Millswyn street South Yarra. (she >> died in 1930) >> >> Alam had a couple of children - including Evelyn Maud MATHER - Evelyn >> married a Patrick james HASSETT and had at least 2 children: >> >> John Stanley HASSETT and Evelyn Maud SAYERS nee Hassett >> >> so I guess somebody could try to locate family of John HASSETT or >> Evelyn SAYERS ... >> >> the family were in the St.arnuad district ... check there? >> >> good luck >> >> Robert in melbourne. >> >> >> Dave Evans wrote: >>> Hi List, >>> Looking for relatives of Pte T. Murray, K.I.A. 27 August 1915 >>> >>> Dave in Ballarat >>> >>> :-) Victorian Mining Accident Index, over 12,100 names sorted >>> Alphabetically as well as by Place. on CDROM $20.00 plus Postage. >>> Mining Registrars Reports 1859 to 1887 all Victoria, most reports >>> published, send for a list to Dave Evans 439 Main Rd. Ballarat, 3350 >>> Victoria or email [email protected] >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >> > > :-) Victorian Mining Accident Index, over 12,100 names sorted > Alphabetically as well as by Place. on CDROM $20.00 plus Postage. > Mining Registrars Reports 1859 to 1887 all Victoria, most reports > published, send for a list to Dave Evans 439 Main Rd. Ballarat, 3350 > Victoria or email [email protected] > >

My husband is connected to this family. His g-grandmother was Harriet Sarah KIRKHAM, sister of Eliza Kirkham CROWLE. Although I knew of the CROWLE/MURRAY alias, I didn't connect the request to this person. Judy Thomas robert.j wrote: > Fascinating story- > > enlisting at about the age of 40 ... > > Thomas CROWLE born in Pleasant Creek/Stawel in 1873, father:John CROWLE > mother: Eliza Kirkham. > > Killed at gallipoli in 1915 ... > > In 1917 his Thomas's sister, Eliza Jane McRoberts nee CROWLE (born 1876 > Pleasant Creek) writes from Boulder, WA, that her brother apparently > enlisted in the services - deserted and then went to Sydney and enlisted > again using the name Thomas MURRAY. > > the sister also wonders how it was possible for Thomas MURRAY to enlist > in Australia and be reported ead - KIA 3 months alter ... > > And we learn that Thomas had another sister - > Mrs. Alma Mather nee Crowle of Millswyn street South Yarra. (she died > in 1930) > > Alam had a couple of children - including Evelyn Maud MATHER - Evelyn > married a Patrick james HASSETT and had at least 2 children: > > John Stanley HASSETT and Evelyn Maud SAYERS nee Hassett > > so I guess somebody could try to locate family of John HASSETT or Evelyn > SAYERS ... > > the family were in the St.arnuad district ... check there? > > good luck > > Robert in melbourne. > > > Dave Evans wrote: > >> Hi List, >> Looking for relatives of Pte T. Murray, K.I.A. 27 August 1915 >> >> Dave in Ballarat >> >> :-) Victorian Mining Accident Index, over 12,100 names sorted >> Alphabetically as well as by Place. on CDROM $20.00 plus Postage. >> Mining Registrars Reports 1859 to 1887 all Victoria, most reports >> published, send for a list to Dave Evans 439 Main Rd. Ballarat, 3350 >> Victoria or email [email protected] >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thanks Robert, Dave At 11:36 AM 3/11/2008, robert.j wrote: >Fascinating story- > >enlisting at about the age of 40 ... > >Thomas CROWLE born in Pleasant Creek/Stawel in 1873, father:John >CROWLE mother: Eliza Kirkham. > >Killed at gallipoli in 1915 ... > >In 1917 his Thomas's sister, Eliza Jane McRoberts nee CROWLE (born >1876 Pleasant Creek) writes from Boulder, WA, that her brother >apparently enlisted in the services - deserted and then went to >Sydney and enlisted again using the name Thomas MURRAY. > >the sister also wonders how it was possible for Thomas MURRAY to >enlist in Australia and be reported ead - KIA 3 months alter ... > >And we learn that Thomas had another sister - >Mrs. Alma Mather nee Crowle of Millswyn street South Yarra. (she >died in 1930) > >Alam had a couple of children - including Evelyn Maud MATHER - >Evelyn married a Patrick james HASSETT and had at least 2 children: > >John Stanley HASSETT and Evelyn Maud SAYERS nee Hassett > >so I guess somebody could try to locate family of John HASSETT or >Evelyn SAYERS ... > >the family were in the St.arnuad district ... check there? > >good luck > >Robert in melbourne. > > >Dave Evans wrote: >>Hi List, >>Looking for relatives of Pte T. Murray, K.I.A. 27 August 1915 >> >>Dave in Ballarat >> >> :-) Victorian Mining Accident Index, over 12,100 names sorted >> Alphabetically as well as by Place. on CDROM $20.00 plus Postage. >>Mining Registrars Reports 1859 to 1887 all Victoria, most reports >>published, send for a list to Dave Evans 439 Main Rd. Ballarat, >>3350 Victoria or email [email protected] >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > :-) Victorian Mining Accident Index, over 12,100 names sorted Alphabetically as well as by Place. on CDROM $20.00 plus Postage. Mining Registrars Reports 1859 to 1887 all Victoria, most reports published, send for a list to Dave Evans 439 Main Rd. Ballarat, 3350 Victoria or email [email protected]