To The List, I wrote to the list in December and appreciated the many suggestions and replies. However, I now find it is The Age newspaper I need for August 1919and cannot find this online only the Argus and other newspaper belonging to other areas. Can anyone point me in the right direction to find this death listings for this newspaper please. Regards Marie

Hi all, The Marchioness of Salisbury arrived in Geelong on about the 21 February 1855, having left Plymouth on about the 22 November 1854. A short account of the voyage by James DAVIES appears at this website: > http://www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/art/davies.htm The passenger list for the Marchioness of Salisbury appears online at the Vic Public Records Office website: Index to Assisted British Immigration 1839-1871 > http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/Index_search.asp?searchid=24 The passenger list suggests that there were about 243 assisted passengers - closer examination of the list suggests that almost half the number of passengers were females travelling alone or in the company of sister(s) and they were mostly in the age range of 18 to 24 years - certainly eligible young ladies. The surnames of these women suggest that most if not all, originated from Ireland. A "bride ship" ???? With atleast half the passengers being young single or widowed women from Ireland (hoping to marry in the near future?) - I expect that the Marchioness of Salisbury could satisfy a definition of a "bride ship" ?? good luck Robert in cooler Melbourne. Norman Archibald wrote: > Would anyone on the list know whether the ship, Machioness of Salisbury which arrived in Victoria in 1855 was perhaps a "bride ship" > One of my family connections, Jane CANAVAN arrived on the Machioness of Salisbury in 1855, marrying Cornelius PETERS ( PIETERS ) of Eureka Stockade fame, in 1856, both dying in Scarsdale, Victoria in the late 1800`s. > Norman A. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Would anyone on the list know whether the ship, Machioness of Salisbury which arrived in Victoria in 1855 was perhaps a "bride ship" One of my family connections, Jane CANAVAN arrived on the Machioness of Salisbury in 1855, marrying Cornelius PETERS ( PIETERS ) of Eureka Stockade fame, in 1856, both dying in Scarsdale, Victoria in the late 1800`s. Norman A.

Thanks so much for this information, Mary. Given the lack of information in the death summaries, I think I'll just pursue the death at sea first. However, top priority now seems to be obtaining the death certificate of a JOHN Cuthbertson in Ballarat, whose death in 1880, aged 65, has Robert Cuthbertson and Ellen Liddell as his parents. My James Cuthbertson had parents Robert, and Helen Riddell, and would have been 63 in 1880. The similarity seems uncanny. James' brother John died as a 15 year old, so it's possible that, on the other side of the world from Scotland, it didn't matter that he used Jack/John instead of Jim/Jas/James. I am grateful to Lister Margaret Trewick for spotting this similarity. Thanks to you both, Tom _________________________________________________________________ It's simple! Sell your car for just $40 http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT

Hi Wilma, Just reading your message again, if you were to order the death certificates from https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=purchaseImage, Victorian death certificates list all children and their ages at the time of the parents death. They also list parents names, place of birth, marriage & length of time in Australia. Australian Census records few and far between and you have to be pretty lucky to find any detailed information Regards Mary -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Claymore Sent: Tuesday, 27 January 2009 12:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Patterson/McNeil Hi Listers, This is my 1st posting to the site, in fact I am a complete novice at searching Australia. In the Archives dated April 2005 I found a posting for a couple and the *female might just be the person I have been looking for. John Paterson, Ballarat 1856. Born Inverness, Scotland - Goldminer aged 26. Parents Daniel (Donald) Paterson and Ann McKay. *Margaret McNeil, Born Paisley, Scotland - aged 26. Parents: Lachlan McNeil and Ann Brodie - married at the residence of Edward Brodie, Magpie, Ballarat. Witnesses: Robert Stevenson and *Janet A McNeil. I have been looking for Margaret and Janet McNeil in Paisley for some time. My ggg.Grandparents were Lachlan McNeil and Ann Brodie. I am a direct descendant of their only son Donald Lachlan (the eldest). His sister Maryann married James McHutchison and emigrated to Ballarat in 1853. The next sister was Catherine but so far I have not found her. Maybe I will get lucky and find her also in Ballarat. Only through Lachlan's Will did I find a mention of Margaret and Janet. Would anyone have any of the mentioned names in their Tree. Or maybe direct me in the right direction about getting a census for John & Margaret and Janet (although haven't found out if she was married or not) to see if there were any children. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Regards Wilma - Canada ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Tom, The only way I know to find more information would be to order the death certificate. The births on the Victorian Pioneers Index to a James Cutbertson are as follows:- Surname Given Names Event Spouse Surname/Father Spouse Gvn Names/Mother Birth Place Year Reg Number CUTHBERTSON James Watson B James Jessie WATSON BACC 1863 167 CUTHBERTSON Margaret Gardine B James Jessie WATSON BACC 1864 19439 CUTHBERTSON Susan Foley B James Jessie WATSON BACC 1872 6696 CUTHBERTSON Elizabeth Waters B James Janet WATSON BACCHUS MARSH 1867 5947 CUTHBERTSON Ada Jessie B James Jessie WATSON BACCUS MAR 1873 214 CUTHBERTSON Robert Melville B James Jesse WATSON BMARSH 1869 20074 CUTHBERTSON James B James Watson Caroline Elizabeth WHITE BRID 1887 8752 CUTHBERTSON William Melville B James Watson Caroline Elizabeth WHITE BRIDGEWATE 1888 821 CUTHBERTSON Alice Ann B James Matilda PANTHER RAGL 1871 18832 CUTHBERTSON Margaret Eleanor B James Matilda PANTHER RAGL 1882 11395 CUTHBERTSON George Herbert B James Matilda PANTHER RAGL 1884 12098 CUTHBERTSON Emily Matilda B James Matilda PANTHER RAGLAN 1873 19223 CUTHBERTSON John James B James Matilda PANTHER RAGLAN 1877 10884 CUTHBERTSON Hy Ernest B Jas Matilda PANTHER RAGLAN 1880 10997 CUTHBERTSON Jessie Mary B James Watson Carol Eliza WHITE WILL 1885 29816 The other deaths that could be possibilities are. Surname Given Names Event Spouse Surname/Father Spouse Gvn Names/Mother Age Birth Place Death Place Year Reg Number CUTHBERTSON James D U 34 SEA 1855 261M CUTHBERTSON James D Unknown Unknown UNKNOWN 45 LAN 1859 1484 CUTHBERTSON James D 39 SCOT 1864 8625 CUTHBERTSON James D U 37 1873 10661 Regards Mary From: Tom Woolman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, 27 January 2009 7:34 PM To: [email protected]; Goldfields Mailing List Subject: RE: Look Up for James Cuthbertson please Hi Mary, Thank you very much for the information. I must apologise because I didn't make it clear that the James and Janet Cuthbertson who arrived on the Storm Cloud were brother and sister. I have made some clarifying comments in your kind text. Tom > Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 > Surname: CUTHBERTSON > Given Names: Robert > Event: B > Spouse Surname/Father: > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Janet CUTHBERSTON > Birth Place: BALLARAT > Year: 1856 > Reg Number: 4578 Tom's comment: This is Janet's "natural" child. The family doesn't know who the father was. > Surname: CUTHBERTSON > Given Names: Janet > Event: M > Spouse Surname/Father: HASTINGS > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: John > Sex: F > Year: 1856 > Reg Number: 15 Tom's comment: This is Janet, my great great grandmother, marrying my great, great grandfather. Her brother, James Cuthbertson, was not a witness at the wedding. > Could James have died at Sea? > -------------------- > > Surname: CUTHBERTSON > Given Names: James > Event: D > Spouse Surname/Father: U > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: > Age: 34 > Death Place: SEA > Year: 1855 > Reg Number: 261M Tom's comment: This is something I hadn't thought of. Thank you!! How do I find out more details? We know that James arrived at Port Phillip on the Storm Cloud in December 1854, so is this him on some other voyage? coastal? leaving Australia? returning from having been somewhere else (e.g. New Zealand?) _____ Let ninemsn property help! Need a new place to rent, share or buy? <http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau%2 F%3Ftracking%3Dsk%3Atl%3Ask%3Anine%3A0%3Ahottag%3Achange&_t=757263783&_r=SEE K_tagline&_m=EXT>

Hi Mary, Thank you very much for the information. I must apologise because I didn't make it clear that the James and Janet Cuthbertson who arrived on the Storm Cloud were brother and sister. I have made some clarifying comments in your kind text. Tom > Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 > Surname: CUTHBERTSON > Given Names: Robert > Event: B > Spouse Surname/Father: > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Janet CUTHBERSTON > Birth Place: BALLARAT > Year: 1856 > Reg Number: 4578 Tom's comment: This is Janet's "natural" child. The family doesn't know who the father was. > Surname: CUTHBERTSON > Given Names: Janet > Event: M > Spouse Surname/Father: HASTINGS > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: John > Sex: F > Year: 1856 > Reg Number: 15 Tom's comment: This is Janet, my great great grandmother, marrying my great, great grandfather. Her brother, James Cuthbertson, was not a witness at the wedding. > Could James have died at Sea? > -------------------- > > Surname: CUTHBERTSON > Given Names: James > Event: D > Spouse Surname/Father: U > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: > Age: 34 > Death Place: SEA > Year: 1855 > Reg Number: 261M Tom's comment: This is something I hadn't thought of. Thank you!! How do I find out more details? We know that James arrived at Port Phillip on the Storm Cloud in December 1854, so is this him on some other voyage? coastal? leaving Australia? returning from having been somewhere else (e.g. New Zealand?) _________________________________________________________________ Need a new place to rent, share or buy? Let ninemsn property help http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau%2F%3Ftracking%3Dsk%3Atl%3Ask%3Anine%3A0%3Ahottag%3Achange&_t=757263783&_r=SEEK_tagline&_m=EXT

Hi Tom, Could this be a birth for a child of theirs? Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 Surname: CUTHBERTSON Given Names: Robert Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Janet CUTHBERSTON Age: Sex: Birth Place: BALLARAT Death Place: Year: 1856 Reg Number: 4578 Is this her re-marrying? -------------------- Surname: CUTHBERTSON Given Names: Janet Event: M Spouse Surname/Father: HASTINGS Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: John Age: Sex: F Birth Place: Death Place: Year: 1856 Reg Number: 15 Could James have died at Sea before his child was born? -------------------- Surname: CUTHBERTSON Given Names: James Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: U Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Age: 34 Sex: Birth Place: Death Place: SEA Year: 1855 Reg Number: 261M Regards Mary -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom Woolman Sent: Tuesday, 27 January 2009 10:18 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Look Up for James Cuthbertson please Hi Listers, I'd be grateful for any information on a James Cuthbertson (brother of my great great grandmother Janet). He was born to Robert Cuthbertson, a quarryman or stonemason, and Helen Riddell (or Riddle, or similar), and christened at Kilmaurs, Ayrshire on 3/9/1817. He's listed as arriving in December 1854, aged 37, at Port Phillip on the Storm Cloud, with Janet, aged c.23. Family lore has it that they became separated on the goldfields and she never saw him again, and there has been no other information handed down on him. Given that Janet signed her marriage at Ballarat in 1856 with a cross, it's quite possible that he was quite nearby to her, in her long life just outside Maryborough, but that she was deterrred in the effort to find him. James and Jane's siblings were, at least, Marion, c.1819, John c.1822, Margaret Tod, c.1825, Robert c.1827, Helen c.1831, William c.1834 and David c.1836. I'm providing the sibling information in case someone can spot something from the Scottish naming pattern in the children of a James. Unless James was lying, he is NOT the James Cuthbertson who married Jessie Watson on November 1859 at Spring Hill, Pentland Hills, because that James was born in North Sutherland, England, and had the father George. (Much of the rest of the copy of that marriage entry is unreadable, but for any lister who may be interested, the page also includes the marriage of William Grant and Elizabeth Patterson on 23/11/1859 at Bacchus Marsh, and of George Lindsay and Ann(e) Davies on December 5, at what looks like Collingwood, but seems out of territory. Any help would be gratefully received, Tom Woolman _________________________________________________________________ It's simple! Sell your car for just $40 http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2 Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fa i%5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Wilma, I found Janet, married to John McNaughten Dougall as well as some other records below hopefully they stay formatted and you can read them. Regards Mary Unassisted Inward Passenger Lists for British, Foreign and New Zealand Ports 1852-1923 Family Name First Name Age Month Year Ship Port Fiche Page MCHUTCHISON ---- MRS 28 MAR 1853 TYPHOON B 031 007 MCHUTCHISON ANNE 6 MAR 1853 TYPHOON B 031 007 MCHUTCHISON JANE I MAR 1853 TYPHOON B 031 007 MCHUTCHISON JAS 3 MAR 1853 TYPHOON B 031 007 MCHUTCHISON JAS 30 MAR 1853 TYPHOON B 031 007 Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 -------------------- Surname: MCHUTCHISON Given Names: Mary Ann Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: Mcneil Lachlan Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ann BRODIE Age: 55 Sex: Birth Place: PAISLEY Death Place: Year: 1879 Reg Number: 6973 -------------------- Surname: MCNEIL Given Names: Margaret Event: M Spouse Surname/Father: PATERSON Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: John Age: Sex: F Birth Place: Death Place: Year: 1856 Reg Number: 3703 -------------------- Surname: MCNEIL Given Names: Janet Event: M Spouse Surname/Father: DOUGALL Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: John Mcnaughten Age: Sex: F Birth Place: Death Place: Year: 1857 Reg Number: 1189 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: -------------------- Digger - Edwardian Index. Victoria 1902-1913 Surname: DOUGALL Given Names: Janet Event: D Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Mcneil Lachlan Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ann BRODIE Age: 77 Age Code: Birth Place: Death Place: S Melb Year: 1911 Reg. Number: 6124 Surname Given Names Event Spouse Surname/Father Spouse Gvn Names/Mother Age Sex Birth Place Death Place Year Reg Number MCHUTCHISON Margaret Boyd B James Mary Ann MCNEIL SEA 1854 1799 MCHUTCHISON John B James Mary Anne MCNEIL MELBN 1855 9700 MCHUTCHISON Robert B James Mary Ann MCNEIL BALLARAT 1857 10374 MCHUTCHISON Donald Lachlan B Jas Maryann MCNEIL BALLT 1859 2343 MCHUTCHISON Catherine B James Mary Ann MCNEIL WIND 1865 13857 MCHUTCHISON Duncan B James Mary Ann MCNEIL MELBOURNE 1868 3851 MCHUTCHISON John D James Mary Ann MCNEIL 24 U 1880 3325 MCHUTCHISON Mary Ann D Mcneil Lachlan Ann BRODIE 55 PAISLEY 1879 6973 PATERSON Daniel B John Margaret MCNEIL BALLARAT 1858 1978 PATERSON John Mckay B John Margaret MCNEIL BALLARAT 1859 7439 PATERSON Ann B John Margaret MCNEILL SMYDALE 1861 7940 PATERSON James B John Margaret MCNEILL SCAR 1863 10787 PATTERSON Margaret Elizabeth B John Margaret MCNEIL BALLARAT 1867 6339 PATTERSON Mary Ann B John Margaret MCNEIL SEBASTOPOL 1869 11601 PATERSON Mary Ann D John Margaret MCNEILL 13 UNKNOWN 1883 1306 PATERSON James Mccutcheon D John Margaret MCNEIL 24 SOUTH MELBOURNE 1888 2810 DOUGALL Andrew B John Mcnaughton Janet MCNEIL BALLARAT 1857 14623 DOUGALL Jno Black B Jno Mcnaughton Janet MCNEILL BALLT 1859 7199 DOUGALL James Mchutchison B John Janet MCNEILL BALLARAT 1861 2180 DOUGALL John Mcnaughton B John Mcnaughton Janet MCNEIL BALL 1862 18754 DOUGALL Amelia Ann Mcnaughton B John Mcnaughto Janet MCNEIL BALL 1864 19602 DOUGALL Jessie Elizabeth B John Janet MCNEILL BALLT W 1866 12664 DOUGALL Charles William B John Mcnaughton Janet MCNEIL MOUNT COLE 1868 25633 DOUGALL John Black D John Janet U 3 BALL 1862 5892 DOUGALL Amelia Ann Mcnaughton D John Mcnaugh Janet 13M BALL 1865 9749 DOUGALL Charles William D John Mcnaugh Janet MCNEILL 6 MTCO 1875 8183 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Claymore Sent: Tuesday, 27 January 2009 12:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Patterson/McNeil Hi Listers, This is my 1st posting to the site, in fact I am a complete novice at searching Australia. In the Archives dated April 2005 I found a posting for a couple and the *female might just be the person I have been looking for. John Paterson, Ballarat 1856. Born Inverness, Scotland - Goldminer aged 26. Parents Daniel (Donald) Paterson and Ann McKay. *Margaret McNeil, Born Paisley, Scotland - aged 26. Parents: Lachlan McNeil and Ann Brodie - married at the residence of Edward Brodie, Magpie, Ballarat. Witnesses: Robert Stevenson and *Janet A McNeil. I have been looking for Margaret and Janet McNeil in Paisley for some time. My ggg.Grandparents were Lachlan McNeil and Ann Brodie. I am a direct descendant of their only son Donald Lachlan (the eldest). His sister Maryann married James McHutchison and emigrated to Ballarat in 1853. The next sister was Catherine but so far I have not found her. Maybe I will get lucky and find her also in Ballarat. Only through Lachlan's Will did I find a mention of Margaret and Janet. Would anyone have any of the mentioned names in their Tree. Or maybe direct me in the right direction about getting a census for John & Margaret and Janet (although haven't found out if she was married or not) to see if there were any children. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Regards Wilma - Canada ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mary, Jan, Kerri, Maree, Ave, (My apologies if I have missed anyone) I will be responding off-line to Thank you personally. WOW! My sincere Thanks for all the information I received regarding Margaret, Janet, Maryann McNeil. You have been most helpful helping me to trace the McNeil Family. What a great list......... Catherine (sister born after Maryann) married Alexander McDonald in 1847 then she disappears. I did find her in the 1871 Scottish Census living with her brother Donald and Family, then she disappears again. Dare I hope that she is also in Australia also! I will find her one of these days I am sure. Your response was overwhelming. Looks like I have quite a number of Family in Australia. I thought I was lucky a number of years ago when my Aunt told me about a cousin (1st cousin once removed) in Sydney. She is 92 years of age and has been an absolute delight to talk to. She had been looking for my MacNeil Family most of her life so she was just delighted when I contacted her. You have all been extremely generous with your information and I am just over the moon. Now I will have to sit back and digest it all. Thank You all for the wonderful information you have supplied. Warmest regards to all Wilma - in Very Cold Ontario, Canada - minus 8 not including the windchill factor.

Hi Listers, I'd be grateful for any information on a James Cuthbertson (brother of my great great grandmother Janet). He was born to Robert Cuthbertson, a quarryman or stonemason, and Helen Riddell (or Riddle, or similar), and christened at Kilmaurs, Ayrshire on 3/9/1817. He's listed as arriving in December 1854, aged 37, at Port Phillip on the Storm Cloud, with Janet, aged c.23. Family lore has it that they became separated on the goldfields and she never saw him again, and there has been no other information handed down on him. Given that Janet signed her marriage at Ballarat in 1856 with a cross, it's quite possible that he was quite nearby to her, in her long life just outside Maryborough, but that she was deterrred in the effort to find him. James and Jane's siblings were, at least, Marion, c.1819, John c.1822, Margaret Tod, c.1825, Robert c.1827, Helen c.1831, William c.1834 and David c.1836. I'm providing the sibling information in case someone can spot something from the Scottish naming pattern in the children of a James. Unless James was lying, he is NOT the James Cuthbertson who married Jessie Watson on November 1859 at Spring Hill, Pentland Hills, because that James was born in North Sutherland, England, and had the father George. (Much of the rest of the copy of that marriage entry is unreadable, but for any lister who may be interested, the page also includes the marriage of William Grant and Elizabeth Patterson on 23/11/1859 at Bacchus Marsh, and of George Lindsay and Ann(e) Davies on December 5, at what looks like Collingwood, but seems out of territory. Any help would be gratefully received, Tom Woolman _________________________________________________________________ It's simple! Sell your car for just $40 http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT

Dear all, I recently joined the Goldfields list after an absence of a few years so I thought I would introduce myself and my family interests. Both sides of my family came to the Bendigo/Eaglehawk areas in the 1850s and I'm still there! Family names include: Hooley (England/Sth Africa), McMahon (Ireland), Meurillion (France), Franscella (Switzerald), Gagetti (Italy) and related families. I would love to make contact and exchange information with anyone researching these families. Best wishes, Marg Watson.

Hi Listers, This is my 1st posting to the site, in fact I am a complete novice at searching Australia. In the Archives dated April 2005 I found a posting for a couple and the *female might just be the person I have been looking for. John Paterson, Ballarat 1856. Born Inverness, Scotland - Goldminer aged 26. Parents Daniel (Donald) Paterson and Ann McKay. *Margaret McNeil, Born Paisley, Scotland - aged 26. Parents: Lachlan McNeil and Ann Brodie - married at the residence of Edward Brodie, Magpie, Ballarat. Witnesses: Robert Stevenson and *Janet A McNeil. I have been looking for Margaret and Janet McNeil in Paisley for some time. My ggg.Grandparents were Lachlan McNeil and Ann Brodie. I am a direct descendant of their only son Donald Lachlan (the eldest). His sister Maryann married James McHutchison and emigrated to Ballarat in 1853. The next sister was Catherine but so far I have not found her. Maybe I will get lucky and find her also in Ballarat. Only through Lachlan's Will did I find a mention of Margaret and Janet. Would anyone have any of the mentioned names in their Tree. Or maybe direct me in the right direction about getting a census for John & Margaret and Janet (although haven't found out if she was married or not) to see if there were any children. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Regards Wilma - Canada

Thankyou all for your help. Thanks to Cathie we have found the correct Queenie Dorman & her relationship to my Aunty & myself. <grin> Queenie Irene DORMAN born 1890 St Arnaud, mar Leornard Geoorge McCROREY 1926 & 1931 Vic, died 1976 Greenvale, Vic. Her father was: Frederick Edwin DORMAN & Rebecca Jane PICKARD/RICKARD. His father was Henry Richard DORMAN & Sarah Ann ARNOLD. b London.His father was: Stephen DORMAN & Mary Ann WATERS. b London.His father was: Stephen DORMAN & Mary. Eilleen Beatrice DORMAN born 1902 Ballarat. Her father was: Albert DORMAN & Caroline Louisa PITTARD. His father was: Morgan James DORMAN & Bridget WILSON. b LondonHis father was: Stephen DORMAN & Mary Ann WATERS. b London. So they were second cousins. I had Henry as brother to Morgan but not the second name Richard. I now have all their families, up till the cut off point of course. I had a wonderful time with my new AVRIs. Cheers. Annie from Cairns, Aus.

Replied direct. Regards, Pat Wade (Nee King) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Melanie Sent: Sunday, 25 January 2009 7:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Carter, Francis Keith EDWARDIAN INDEX lookup Could SKS please do a lookup for me on the Edwardian Index? Francis Keith Carter birth and death in Victoria? Mothers name Ella May Carter, father not known. She was from Bendigo. Many thanks, Mel from Perth ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you for this. "Ally" was the daughter of William Tyson [a half brother of my great grandfather John TYSON.]...and his wife Susannah Herring At the time Juanbung was owned by William's uncle James TYSON.[whose fortune was begun in Bendigo.selling meat from the Riverina] Coincidently my grandmother Rosie was brought up on Juanbung when her father Roderick MACKENZIE was manager there for A.T Creswick after James TYSONS death She married "the boy next door" :) Harry TYSON from "Tupra" Judy Qld > Alice Amy TYSON. died 29/12/1878 Juanbung homestead. Aged 2 years. Her > grave > is close the homestead. > Just getting this information into archives. In case, someone is > researching > this family line. > > Peggy & Max Henson > Nyah West > Victoria > Australia > > > Nice part about living in a small town, > When you don't know what you're doing, > someone else always dose! > > > >

Thankyou to Patricia and Chris for taking the time to find exactly the details I needed. I have replied to both personally. Thankyou very much for your efforts. It's truly appreciated. Kindest Regards, Mel from Perth

Could SKS please do a lookup for me on the Edwardian Index? Francis Keith Carter birth and death in Victoria? Mothers name Ella May Carter, father not known. She was from Bendigo. Many thanks, Mel from Perth

Sorry, tired. Juanbung New South Wales. Peggy & Max Henson Nyah West Victoria Australia Nice part about living in a small town, When you don't know what you're doing, someone else always dose!

Alice Amy TYSON. died 29/12/1878 Juanbung homestead. Aged 2 years. Her grave is close the homestead. Just getting this information into archives. In case, someone is researching this family line. Peggy & Max Henson Nyah West Victoria Australia Nice part about living in a small town, When you don't know what you're doing, someone else always dose!