Hi Everyone, The post about the long-awaited Sale and District Pioneer Index reminds me that yesterday I received my copy of Clonmel to Federation: Guide to People in the Port Albert area 1841-1901. This is a two volume, 754 page compilation (A4 pages, dense print) of notes about people from the Gippsland area that is much wider than Port Albert. For example, I have found two prominent families from Glenmaggie and Stratford well-documented in there at the first glance. It is drawn from newspapers, B,D&Ms, directories, local histories and less easily-accessible records - rate books, school records, church records, cemetery records etc. It even includes details of people enquiring about families. The notes mainly point to further information - it is more an index to sources than anything else. This is a huge and wonderful work by Gwen O'Callaghan and her team, and they are to be congratulated. As a minimum, every family history group in Gippsland should be getting one, and maybe you should go to your local library and agitate for them to get copies too. Family history groups elsewhere in Victoria should also find it useful. So this, with the Sale Pioneer Register coming out soon, raises the question of should lookups be offered onlist. So I thought I should get in first. Groups such as the Gippsland Maritime Museum and Sale Family History Group have outlaid a lot of money and time in this process, and offering lookups is unfair if extensive details are given out, on or off list. It is also a breach of copyright if the entry is transmitted verbatim, on or off list. There is no copyright on facts, but there is on the form in which it is expressed - ie the exact words. So I am quite prepared to tell people, if I am asked offlist, if their family is included in the book. I may even give them some idea how much information is there. But that is all. You can e-mail me at kapana@netspace.net.au So, in the meantime, hie yourself off to your local library, family history group or historical society, and convince them that this is an essential reference. For details of availability, contact Gwen O'Callaghan on gwenoc@netspace.net.au Cheers Linda With hat on as List-admin AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND, just to show I am serious about the copyright / lookup stuff. Please play fair for the Port Albert and Sale people.

Linda. I agree that we should all attempt to purchase a copy of this latest book Can you tell us the cost please? I agree also with your point about lookups These groups have spent time, money and many hours compiling these books so people should not be asking for free lookups at this stage Some people may disagree with this point of view.They are entitled to their opinion Di in Melbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Barraclough" <kapana@netspace.net.au> To: <aus-vic-gippsland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 7:36 AM Subject: [AVG] Clonmel to Federation Index > Hi Everyone, > > The post about the long-awaited Sale and District Pioneer Index > reminds me that yesterday I received my copy of Clonmel to > Federation: Guide to People in the Port Albert area 1841-1901. > > This is a two volume, 754 page compilation (A4 pages, dense print) of > notes about people from the Gippsland area that is much wider than > Port Albert. For example, I have found two prominent families from > Glenmaggie and Stratford well-documented in there at the first > glance. It is drawn from newspapers, B,D&Ms, directories, local > histories and less easily-accessible records - rate books, school > records, church records, cemetery records etc. It even includes > details of people enquiring about families. > > The notes mainly point to further information - it is more an index > to sources than anything else. > > This is a huge and wonderful work by Gwen O'Callaghan and her team, > and they are to be congratulated. As a minimum, every family history > group in Gippsland should be getting one, and maybe you should go to > your local library and agitate for them to get copies too. Family > history groups elsewhere in Victoria should also find it useful. > > So this, with the Sale Pioneer Register coming out soon, raises the > question of should lookups be offered onlist. So I thought I should > get in first. > > Groups such as the Gippsland Maritime Museum and Sale Family History > Group have outlaid a lot of money and time in this process, and > offering lookups is unfair if extensive details are given out, on or > off list. It is also a breach of copyright if the entry is > transmitted verbatim, on or off list. There is no copyright on facts, > but there is on the form in which it is expressed - ie the exact words. > > So I am quite prepared to tell people, if I am asked offlist, if > their family is included in the book. I may even give them some idea > how much information is there. But that is all. You can e-mail me at > kapana@netspace.net.au So, in the meantime, hie yourself off to > your local library, family history group or historical society, and > convince them that this is an essential reference. > > For details of availability, contact Gwen O'Callaghan on > gwenoc@netspace.net.au > > Cheers > > Linda > With hat on as List-admin AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND, just to show I am > serious about the copyright / lookup stuff. Please play fair for the > Port Albert and Sale people. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Linda This is all you have given us your e-mail address for a look up in your book and Gwen's for availabiltiy That dosen't help with finding out the cost of the book.or if you live interstate where it can be brought from is that from Gwen or GHS or Sale HS ??? Julie .> > So I am quite prepared to tell people, if I am asked offlist, if > their family is included in the book. I may even give them some idea > how much information is there. But that is all. You can e-mail me at > kapana@netspace.net.au So, in the meantime, hie yourself off to > your local library, family history group or historical society, and > convince them that this is an essential reference.(AT WHAT COSTs)> > For details of availability, contact Gwen O'Callaghan on gwenoc@netspace.net.au> > Cheers> > Linda> With hat on as List-admin AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND, just to show I am > serious about the copyright / lookup stuff. Please play fair for the > Port Albert and Sale people.> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-GIPPSLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Overpaid or Underpaid? Check our comprehensive Salary Centre http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fcontent%2Emycareer%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fsalary%2Dcentre%3Fs%5Fcid%3D595810&_t=766724125&_r=Hotmail_Email_Tagline_MyCareer_Oct07&_m=EXT