Hi Bernie. Thanks for you very prompt and informative responce. The names of the families I am researching in that area are: Hill, McGrath & Carty - at this stage. The period is 1870 to 1910. Do know the area physically? I note in the Vic Roads Country Directory ther is a Sunny creek Road just to the west of Trafalgar on the Princes Highway and goes nearly up to Thorpdale. Again, thanks a million. John Hill dyehill@net-tech.com.au