Dear Walter Thankyou very much for the information you sent. I appreciate all I can get on this family and especially any references to Joe Kidd, he is my ggrandfather, and his life like most undoubtly has many little mysteries. I am fortunate enough to have alot of photos of the family that had at one stage belonged to Joe Kidd quite a few are of the Standings and their descendants eg. Webbs. Joe Kidd apparently gave his bullocks bell to George Webb would love to know if it is still in the family. Thanks again for your response Regards Michele Deering http://www.vic.australis.com.au/sdeering/index.htm EMAIL sdeering@vic.australis.com.au ICQ.# 46641156