Michele Deering, The book "The Changing Years" by Joyce Erbs and Marie Nation is out of print, and you would need to be lucky to pick up a second-hand copy. Your best bet would be to look at the book at a Gippsland library or the State Library - OR borrow one from a relative. Some WEBB descendants such as Mr Trevor Colbert are stated in the book to have been residing in the district in 1972. There is a paragraph about the Webb family on page 22, also scattered references and two photos, but very few references to the COOPER family. There is a small photo of Mrs. H.A. Cooper (nee Sarah Webb) on the last page. I have scanned the main paragraph about the Webb family and will paste it below - "WEBBS. The first Webb in Hill End was Thomas senior, who came with his wife and grown family about 1895. Some of his sons selected blocks on Sandy Creek Road (Farrells Road). Thomas, and Joe Kidd, his brother-in-law, had been bullock drivers. They had had many lucrative hauls, including loads of stores and machinery to goldmining towns. A load from Melbourne to Walhalla would fetch £l00 ($200) a ton. They had teams of sixteen bullocks and when they reached the "Glue Pot" at Brandy Creek, unyoked one team to attach to the other waggon, thus using 32 bullocks to haul the load through, returning for the other load. One of Thomas' sons, Charlie, married a widow with four children, Mary Bloxom (nee Bell) and they. farmed on her block on Camp Creek Road. Charlie selected other small blocks in the area. They were burnt out in the 1906 fires. Rebuilding and milking cows, they were once again burnt out in the 1939 bushfires. Alf Webb, who had married Isobel Williams, grand-daughter of Hector Lamont, was farming there then. The remaining family went to Trafalgar and the property was used for dry cattle only. In 1958 Francie Colbert, daughter of Alf, returned to the property with her husband and three children. They built a new cowshed and later a house, previously living in a small house built on the property by Jim Lord. Francie is farming there now with the help of her younger son Trevor. Her elder son Gary was killed in a tractor accident a short time ago." On page 25 it is stated that C.T. and A.J. Webb both served in World War I. On page 27 there is a photo of Charles and Mary Webb. I could send you a scan if you wish (JPEG?). On page 31 there is a photo of Charles Webb with his steam engine used for driving the first sawmill at Hill End. On page 21 the authors state: " ... we must reluctantly omit some stories from the many collected for time does not permit us to include them all ... one must be content to include original settlers whose families are still in the district - Hitchins, Bloyes, Espies, Webbs, Rees and Pauls." Walter Savige