Hi Lori and Joy Thanks firstly to Lori for your tips. Some I have tried, some I haven't, so I will give them a go. Funny you should mention Emma Susan Twitchett/Mitchell/Owen. She ' became known as ' Owen but did not marry William Frances Owen. Her death certificate shows her as Emma Mitchell, as does the Bruthen Cemetery Register, but this has a notation ' known as Mrs Owen '. This lead me to discover that there were several Owen children, the 1st in 1901. But I believe that Henry John Mitchell had not died at this point but some form of seperation must have occured, for as I have already mentioned I have him recorded in the 1905 Electoral Roll. Thanks secondly to Joy for your interest. The Emma Mitchell death (Reg 12058) is the right one as I have it and as you have probably already read she did not marry William Owen and the death certificate refers only to her first marriage to Henry John Mitchell. The Henry Mitchell who died in Warragul in 1911, aged 75 would have been born in 1836. Ours was supposedly born in 1849, but you cannot believe all that is written about ages can you? With no connection via spouse or parents would the death certificate be worth a go in the hope that it might provide something else? I suppose that could only be children couldn't it? What do you think? Regards from Barry