Thanks Linda, yes I have tried Ngarak. Used them before, too. A great place for all kinds of books. Thanks also to Mathew Merington for his help. Cheers Don DON MOUNTAIN===================================== PO Box 3327 Weston Creek ACT Australia 2611 Telephone 02 6288 5793 - Facsimile 02 6287 1207 Researching surnames: MOUNTAIN, RUSSELL, UPTON, TOUZEL, THOMSON, FRASER, DUMBLE, TASKER Homepage <http://.www.cyberone.com.au/~mountain/>